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Vaccination Query?

  • 26-02-2015 10:04pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭


    Hi

    Just looking for some advice from those who are more experienced with dogs than me.

    Is my puppy due 3 sets of vaccinations or 2? I brought him at 8 weeks and he got a 7 in 1, brought him last night and he got another 7 in one along with kennel cough. At the 8 week point my vet never mentioned that he's due another set at 16 weeks but last night he did? From my recollection any dogs I've ever had(years ago mind) there was only an 8 and 12 week, have things changed? The vet was trying to upsell all sorts of products to me from food to shampoo so just want to make sure its not a money racket at €50 a pop and that my puppy is fully vacanated. He also adivided no walking until after this 16 week injection?
    Just looking for some reassurance or guidance please :-)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 413 ✭✭odckdo


    tbh, I don't know much about this area but my dog got his annual booster vacc and kennel cough injection this week.

    The vet mentioned something about 'Lepto 4' (previous years it was 'Lepto 2') and this means coming back in 2 weeks for an extra injection. Next year it will be back to the normal one injection.

    http://www.merck-animal-health-usa.com/products/nobivac-lepto-4/overview.aspx

    I wonder does that explain it or is it different for pups?

    EDIT: the extra injection is free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,045 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    odckdo wrote: »
    tbh, I don't know much about this area but my dog got his annual booster vacc and kennel cough injection this week.

    The vet mentioned something about 'Lepto 4' (previous years it was 'Lepto 2') and this means coming back in 2 weeks for an extra injection. Next year it will be back to the normal one injection.

    http://www.merck-animal-health-usa.com/products/nobivac-lepto-4/overview.aspx

    I wonder does that explain it or is it different for pups?

    EDIT: the extra injection is free.

    Yeah I was thinking it might be the lepto booster too? Different brands recommend waiting different amounts of time between vaccinations too though - with Lucy it was 8 and 12 weeks from the vet the breeder used..... Our vet doest stock that brand so started again so we could get her out and about earlier. 16 weeks is imo very late to get them out socialising and exposed to the sights and sounds outside of the house.


  • Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭Wexy86


    tk123 wrote: »
    16 weeks is imo very late to get them out socialising and exposed to the sights and sounds outside of the house.

    I was thinking the same - 4 months is a bit late to introduce him to walking no? He goes outside in the garden and to my sisters a few days a week when I work and plays outside in her garden with her older dog, but he needs to get walking tho.

    I've been googling and not finding much on this 16 week injection, I'm going to ring one or two more local vets and see what they say maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭ene


    Lotso has had 2 injections and after them he could go walking but then there is another one at 16 weeks as like a second booster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,045 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Wexy86 wrote: »
    I was thinking the same - 4 months is a bit late to introduce him to walking no? He goes outside in the garden and to my sisters a few days a week when I work and plays outside in her garden with her older dog, but he needs to get walking tho.

    I've been googling and not finding much on this 16 week injection, I'm going to ring one or two more local vets and see what they say maybe?

    You can still bring him out and about but not let him down. I'd suggest calling your own vet back first tbh and just clear up exactly what the next vaccination is for? Were you definitely meant to wait four weeks between the first two vaccinations - different brands have different waiting times. The one my vet does is two 2 weeks e.g. 8 and 10 weeks but the one that my dog's breeder used was 8 and 12. Does you vet do puppy classes - ours does them and pups can start from their first vaccination so that might be an option for socialisation


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭DerTierarzt


    Wexy86 wrote: »
    Is my puppy due 3 sets of vaccinations or 2? I brought him at 8 weeks and he got a 7 in 1, brought him last night and he got another 7 in one along with kennel cough. At the 8 week point my vet never mentioned that he's due another set at 16 weeks but last night he did? He also adivided no walking until after this 16 week injection?

    The most recent independent objective guidelines can be found here. Each animal is unique, but based on what you've stated above, scientific best practice dictates the following:
    1. 8 weeks: distemper, adenovirus, parvovirus
    2. 12 weeks: distemper, adenovirus, parvovirus, leptospirosis
    3. 16 weeks: distemper, adenovirus, parvovirus, leptospirosis

    At 16 weeks non-core vaccinations such as against infectious tracheobronchitis (kennel cough) may be considered. With regards to "no walking", immunity takes up to three weeks after the final puppy innoculation to reach its peak, so again, scientifically speaking keeping a dog in for this period reduces the chance of contracting the very disease you are trying to prevent.

    Worth noting that this is rarely done in practice, as to do so would conflict with "early socialisation".


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,770 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    Worth noticing that this is rarely done in practice, as to do so would conflict with "early socialisation".

    The truth is that even if pups are fully vaccinated and covered by 12 weeks of age, it's too late to start socialising them, because at 12 weeks, the Socialisation Period is starting to wind down. What has not been done by this stage is hugely more likely to become a problem later, and vaccination protocols really stand in the way even if they're curtailed.
    However OP, the pharma company Merial have recognised this and have produced a leaflet which shows how to get your pre-vaccinated puppy socialised. For example, you can bring pup for car trips, and visit friends who have vaccinated dogs. You can also have friends visit your pup at home with their vaccinated dogs.
    I'll find you the link now op.

    Edited to add: link is on this page, "Puppy Socialisation and Vaccination"
    http://www.merial.co.uk/Dog/Pages/advice_dogs.aspx


  • Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭Wexy86


    Thanks guys for your input and knowledge!

    My puppy socialises 4 days a week for a few hours with my sisters dog who is fully vacinated as she does doggy day care when I'm in work and he has done this since 8 weeks old.

    I brought him for his 16 week last week just for the sake of a few euro I'd rather be safe than sorry :) but I have been going on small walks daily since 13 weeks and brought him to the beach a few times to get him out and about and he loves it :D

    He appears well behaved but excited when we meet other dogs but is startled by loud noises - for eg a bin lorry was going past this morning and he froze :-(
    Cars on the road beside us don't faze him so maybe this morn was a once off. There was an issue with nighttime walks, he wasn't having any of it :-( not sure if it was the dark or what. I brought him out a few times at dusk so he was already out when it got dark and this has done the trick

    hopefully everything is ok on the socialising side!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Whistlejacket


    OP, you sound like a responsible and caring dog owner, good for you!


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