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Is TLOU a top 50 game or not?
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johnny_ultimate wrote: »While I have my issues with The Last of Us - mostly involving its over-reliance on combat sequences (same problem as Uncharted, although less pronounced in TLOU given its setting and themes) and superfluous puzzling - it's still an incredibly valuable and important game in terms of storytelling.
Is it the most original tale? Nope. Does it achieve a perfect harmony between gameplay and story? Not at all. But in terms of writing, direction and performances TLOU still is something of a revelation. It's not a good story in the 'interesting script but haphazard execution' way you see in many titles, or the interesting but excessively wordy type of writing you see in many RPGs or visual novels. It's much more satisfying than that.
The way the characters interact convincingly is unlike anything I've seen in a game to date. While 'cinematic' is often a dirty word when it comes to games, Naughty Dog team use the language of cinema in the right way (the way they use cuts and edits, for example, or close-ups in the cutscenes). The game shines brightest during those moments when you're exploring the landscape with Joel and Ellie, their little organically emerging conversations packed with so much character detail. It's during those moments when I think TLOU transcends being merely an action game with really well made cutscenes, and instead uses the unique properties of interaction in a satisfying way. While there's definitely some tense, credible and absolutely necessary action sections throughout, there's also some that feel like unnecessary filler, and that occasionally let the side down.
If anything, Left Behind was an even better realisation of everything The Last of Us did right. Its lean running time meant it was much more efficient and economic with its storytelling. There were only a handful of - appropriate and necessary - combat moments, and used to create a stark contrast between the quieter moments (the editing back and forth between two interplaying timelines was brilliantly handled). There were several moments that really played up the exploration aspect of the games, with wonderful character moments emerging as the player interacted with a beautifully drawn environment. I'd love if Naughty Dog was brave enough to release something like that as a full release, although I'm not sure that's a realistic dream. Still, one of the most inspired uses of DLC to date.
While there is certainly room for developers - and Naughty Dog - to improve on what TLOU brought to the table, it still stands pretty much alone in terms of a AAA game where technology and storytelling have come together in such a rewarding way. While there's always a rush towards player-driven and influenced narratives, IMO TLOU still serves as an excellent example of why the quality of characterisation and direction in a heavily scripted and 'authored' game has certain significant benefits over more open or 'choice' driven ones.
Nicely said, if you wrote reviews, I'd happily subscribe
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Also what the hell is Ni No Kuni doing on any best over list let alone 2013. It's one of the worst RPGs of the last decade and no amount of nice graphics will change that. FFS Atelier Rorona and Shin Megami Tensei IV were released the same year...The gameplay was average.
The story, setting and characters were superb.
I will HIT YOU!
The setting was exceptional, the story on the other hand was crappy and then it got worse in the DLC with the heavy handed retconning of the stupider parts. I did get what the story was getting at as well, I just found it profoundly stupid and handled in such a cack handed way.
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Not going to give you that - thats just the Bioshock style.
Style? That sounds like an excuse imo. It's only one of a number of issues I have with the game, the boring and predictable AI, the slow sluggish movement, balance issues with weapons and vigors. But most importantly, the gunplay/shooting mechanics do not feel right, it never seems like you are wielding a weapon that can do serious damage (perhaps the AI plays a part in the perception).
Even some of the design choices were wrong, like been able to upgrade weapons with parts. Sounds good right? But when you limit players to only 2 weapons at a time, and then limit the amount of parts available, what ends up happening is that you are much more likely to stick to the same 2-4 guns which you have invested in upgrades. Same with vigors really, in fact didn't they introduce a new vigor in the last 30-60 minutes of the game? I'm sure that got a lot of use.
IMO, it's all well and good have a great story but if the gameplay struggles to even get the basics right, it can't be considered a great game.
Anyway, rant over, back on topic. TLOU is great 0
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