russian-bombers

darkpagandeath

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/passenger-planes-dodged-russian-bombers-315623.html


Sabre rattling again, Putting civilians in possible danger. What's the reason, they don't have stealth the British can track them intercept and if needed take down. Was this one carrying Nuclear weapons again ?

jamesbere

They just want to say hi, very misunderstood the Russians.

Lapin

I thought this was going to be a thread about vodka based cocktails with Jägermeister.


I feel cheated.

stimpson

It's time we showed them we mean business. We should send Crystal Swing on a Russisn tour.

Payback!

Donkey Oaty

stimpson wrote: »

It's time we showed them we mean business. We should send Crystal Swing on a Russisn tour.

Payback!

I don't know how you can make jokes about such a serious subject.

They are the von Trapps of our generation.

Wide Load

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

I don't know how you can make jokes about such a serious subject.

They are the von Trapps of our generation.

I think they are more aristocrats than von trapps to be fair.

Panthro

Ara Ireland's tiny, sure they're never hit us.
Sure we're well in with everyone, tis sound.

Donkey Oaty

Wide Load wrote: »

I think they are more aristocrats than von trapps to be fair.

We shall see.

Historians will judge how far Crystal Swing were ahead of their time according to the votes cast for Pertti Kurikan Nimipäivät in the forthcoming Eurovision Song Contest.

In the meantime, we can only speculate.

StereoSound

What military capability does Ireland have to defend the state from monstrous nuclear bombers?

darkpagandeath

StereoSound wrote: »

What military capability does Ireland have to defend the state from monstrous nuclear bombers?

Isis water protestors ?

Donkey Oaty

StereoSound wrote: »

What military capability does Ireland have to defend the state from monstrous nuclear bombers?

You may scoff, but being no threat whatsoever is our greatest defence in that particular situation.

josip

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

You may scoff, but being no threat whatsoever is our greatest defence in that particular situation.

And prevailing south westerlies, thank fcuk.

darkpagandeath

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

You may scoff, but being no threat whatsoever is our greatest defence in that particular situation.

Yup International airport used by the USA Shannon has a nuke pointed at it does it not.

dreamers75

Stretchdrip wrote: »

Reconnaissance missions.

You dont send bombers on recon, you send recon planes on recon.

Its big waving pure and simple, someone will shoot one down or at it.

Connemara Farmer

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Yup International airport used by the USA Shannon has a nuke pointed at it does it not.

Reportedly Shannon airport had nukes pointed at it during the cold war anyway, I think Foynes, cork harbour maybe and certainly parts of NI were also targeted.

darkpagandeath

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

Reportedly Shannon airport had nukes pointed at it during the cold war anyway, I think Foynes, cork harbour maybe and certainly parts of NI were also targeted.

True, What about the new Cold war ?

Donkey Oaty

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Yup International airport used by the USA Shannon has a nuke pointed at it does it not.

If it hit that area it could cause millions of Euro worth of improvements, boom tish.

Egginacup

Just seeking clarification here. The article mentions that the planes flew 80 km from "Ireland-controlled airspace" and at another time much closer.....14 km from "Irish Sovereign Airspace". What is the distinction? And were either episodes in violation of the "rules"? I don't know what they are.

Arsemageddon

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

Reportedly Shannon airport had nukes pointed at it during the cold war anyway, I think Foynes, cork harbour maybe and certainly parts of NI were also targeted.

Why would anyone want to nuke Foynes?

Donkey Oaty

Egginacup wrote: »

Just seeking clarification here. The article mentions that the planes flew 80 km from "Ireland-controlled airspace" and at another time much closer.....14 km from "Irish Sovereign Airspace". What is the distinction? And were either episodes in violation of the "rules"? I don't know what they are.

Well, you should stay out of the discussion then.

darkpagandeath

Egginacup wrote: »

Just seeking clarification here. The article mentions that the planes flew 80 km from "Ireland-controlled airspace" and at another time much closer.....14 km from "Irish Sovereign Airspace". What is the distinction? And were either episodes in violation of the "rules"? I don't know what they are.

Think the general rule is Don't Fly warplanes around Neutral countries, I think if they get to close the Lads next door may help it have a splash landing. Russia Has no justification in doing what it's doing around Ireland or Uk.

dan1895

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Yup International airport used by the USA Shannon has a nuke pointed at it does it not.

Don't Aeroflot use it regularly too?

Connemara Farmer

darkpagandeath wrote: »

True, What about the new Cold war ?

I dunno, at least with the last Cold War we knew who was on who's side. Since the end of it we've seen the emergence of proper nut jobs, such as ISIS. I think I prefer the nuke threat.

Arsemageddon wrote: »

Why would anyone want to nuke Foynes?

It's a facility that could be used by one side or another. Nuke it, no one can use it.

darkpagandeath

dan1895 wrote: »

Don't Aeroflot use it regularly too?

Yup but as a poster pointed out could be used by Either side.

black powder colt

The Russians are just testing the western response time and causing a bit of a nuisance for the RAF in response to NATO sabre rattling THE idea that the Russians were going to nuke anyone let alone Ireland with a 1950s bomber is extreme tin foil hat magic mushroom territory Firstly because thats what ICBMS are for and secondly because of mutually assured destruction

darkpagandeath

black powder colt wrote: »

The Russians are just testing the western response time and causing a bit of a nuisance for the RAF in response to NATO sabre rattling THE idea that the Russians were going to nuke anyone let alone Ireland with a 1950s bomber is extreme tin foil hat magic mushroom territory Firstly because thats what ICBMS are for and secondly because of mutually assured destruction

Eh No tinfoil hats needed about Nukes the last one had some in it. I'm not saying Ireland would be nuked by these planes. But people were under the misconception that Ireland is not targeted by Nuclear weapons in the past Not sure about now. And what NATO sabre Rattling ? It's the Russians invading sovereign states not NATO. NATO are just showing they have not gone away.

Connemara Farmer

No one thinks they're going to nuke us.

What they ARE doing is posing a danger to civilian air traffic. As we saw over Ukraine they're not all that bothered at killing a few hundred civvies.

If they are not respecting our countries wishes then send their Ambassador back East.

My name is URL

Arsemageddon wrote: »

Why would anyone want to nuke Foynes?

It was one of the biggest airports (seaplanes) in Europe used by civilians during WWII and is still a very strategically located sea port

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon_Foynes_Port

Adamantium

black powder colt wrote: »

magic mushroom territory

Sorry I know nothing about this.....








Do you? :pac:

Egginacup

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Well, you should stay out of the discussion then.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwww.

black powder colt

StereoSound wrote: »

What military capability does Ireland have to defend the state from monstrous nuclear bombers?

Enda could ask gerry for some sam missiles.

darkpagandeath

black powder colt wrote: »

Enda could ask gerry for some sam missiles.

Or the Water Protestors they have Missiles don't they ?

Karl Stein

This is only peanuts compared to the real Cold War.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXWVpcypf0w

Egginacup

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Think the general rule is Don't Fly warplanes around Neutral countries, I think if they get to close the Lads next door may help it have a splash landing. Russia Has no justification in doing what it's doing around Ireland or Uk.

I'm just asking if anyone knows the rules, that's all. If as you state that you can't fly a military aircraft within 80k of a neutral country's airspace then it would be be fairly difficult for any aircraft to take off in Norway (NATO) without flying close to a neutral country's (Sweden) airspace.

black powder colt

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Eh No tinfoil hats needed about Nukes the last one had some in it. I'm not saying Ireland would be nuked by these planes. But people were under the misconception that Ireland is not targeted by Nuclear weapons in the past Not sure about now. And what NATO sabre Rattling ? It's the Russians invading sovereign states not NATO. NATO are just showing they have not gone away.

Were is the proof of nuclear weapons Is that like sadam had weapons of mass destruction sure the russians are invadeing ukraine its their back yard and they dont want nato bases there thats not justifying it but they werent going to let the west just walk in after there little coup iraq was about oil libya about revenge veitnam about territory the great powers will always defend their interests.Ask yourself who is threatening who how many countries has russia invaded in the past 10 years the fact of the matter is everyone would love the russians if they had a drunk a hole like Yeltsin to piss away the country for peanuts and vodka

darkpagandeath

black powder colt wrote: »

Were is the proof of nuclear weapons Is that like sadam had weapons of mass destruction sure the russians are invadeing ukraine its their back yard and they dont want nato bases there thats not justifying it but they werent going to let the west just walk in after there little coup iraq was about oil libya about revenge veitnam about territory the great powers will always defend their interests.Ask yourself who is threatening who how many countries has russia invaded in the past 10 years the fact of the matter is everyone would love the russians if they had a drunk a hole like Yeltsin to piss away the country for peanuts and vodka

So much Fail in that Sentence...........

black powder colt

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Or the Water Protestors they have Missiles don't they ?

Reactionary propaganda
our heroic water protestant comrades are peaceful revolutionaries true role models

black powder colt

darkpagandeath wrote: »

So much Fail in that Sentence...........

Explain please why a modern super power would be carrying nuclear weapons around in a 50s bomber when they have 16000 ICBMS

tomwaterford

black powder colt wrote: »

Explain please why a modern super power would be carrying nuclear weapons around in a 50s bomber when they have 16000 ICBMS

Element Of surprise :pac:

Greenmachine

Ground to air missiles might be in order. Hostile invasion of national airspace.

My name is URL

Greenmachine wrote: »

Ground to air missiles might be in order. Hostile invasion of national airspace.

They never entered our national / sovereign airspace but whatever floats yer boat there Mr. Clancy

They entered Irish controlled airspace, which includes almost half of the Atlantic Ocean

http://occ.ivao.aero/upload/airspace.jpg

black powder colt

tomwaterford wrote: »

Element Of surprise :pac:

The thing is it would be shot down before it got anywhere near a vital target you can bet your life on that The RAF are very fast and even if they got near the coast and let one off it would take about 15 min before the western response which would annihilate Russia

black powder colt

My name is URL wrote: »

They never entered our national / sovereign airspace but whatever floats yer boat there Mr. Clancy

Exactly.

Gatling

They could in theory do what they liked in our airspace .
Not a lot of deterrent to stop them or anyone else doing it,
They practiced a bombing run off Copenhagen not so long ago

Smiles35

If they nuke everybody they win the world cup on home soil in 2018.

Gatling

Noblong wrote: »

If they nuke everybody they win the world cup on home soil in 2018.

That only happens in North Korea

josip

Gatling wrote: »

They practiced a bombing run off Copenhagen not so long ago

Pics or ...

Gatling

josip wrote: »

Pics or ...

Google is your friend

Donkey Oaty

We need to be realistic here.

The Russians want to protect their assets, so they are very unlikely to bomb Ireland without first granting Egginacup safe passage to Moscow.

He's a decent chap and looks out for fellow AHers, so once he arrives I'm sure he'll send us a coded warning by starting a thread called "Food I miss from Ireland" or similar.

lazybones32

black powder colt wrote: »

Explain please why a modern super power would be carrying nuclear weapons around in a 50s bomber when they have 16000 ICBMS

The bombers would go in and mop up after the missile strikes. The bombers are in good-nick and have a very long-range; don't let their age fool you.

Some missiles wouldn't make their target (large rocket batteries in Canada) and those that do pass through, may well overshoot their target. Besides, when you consider the amount of actual targets in the USA alone...

BlaasForRafa

darkpagandeath wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/passenger-planes-dodged-russian-bombers-315623.html


Sabre rattling again, Putting civilians in possible danger. What's the reason, they don't have stealth the British can track them intercept and if needed take down. Was this one carrying Nuclear weapons again ?

Big fuss over nothing. These planes wouldn't have been carrying nuclear weapons, they are just long range reconnaissance flights. The Russians carry out over a hundred of these patrols every year, they have every right to fly in international airspace and they use visual flight rules to stay out of anyone elses way.

Nato carries out similar reconnaissance flights around the edges of Russian airspace but nobody makes a big hoo-haa about them like the british, and now irish, newspapers do.

I don't care, the more pictures and video of the beautiful Tu-95 the better.