Cycling etiquette, meeting other cyclists

NamelessPhil

I do the weird culchie head nod, you know, the sideways twist.

I did that to a guy in a tractor last weekend on a 200km audax somewhere out in the back of nowhere near Kells and got the full wave in return. All it needed was a sheep dog in the cab and I could have been back in my childhood.

Wishbone Ash

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

I've had people in my own club kit blank me.

Same here (...and as recently as yesterday!)

CramCycle wrote: »

The true sign of a culchie, learned from their parents doing the same to one and all while driving or walking, even if they don't know them, just in case, the other party knows them.

I thought that was the raising of the thumb from the hand hanging over the top of the steering wheel.

CramCycle

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

I thought that was the raising of the thumb from the hand hanging over the top of the steering wheel.

Never seen the thumb one but the fully outstretched arm (so their hand is on the windscreen), with their fingers as spread out as possible, turned sidewards, like a really weird "eastside" gang sign and a mad open mouthed grin was the other one that I seen in my youth, not as popular as the finger wave, and not as rare as the full wave.

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Ah the full hand spread is popular amongst lorry drivers (The father was one). It only appeared for people you actually knew. Ditto in tractor etc. Although the single finger is equally applicable. It's also embarrassingly instinctual to me also, although I try to confine it to down home.

The thumb is equal to the finger, but less common down our way anyway!

Alek

I do the weird culchie head nod, you know, the sideways twist.

I've been living in this country for 11 years and it still takes a bit of thinking what does it really mean when I see it.

"Your helmet is unstrapped dude"

"Turn that blinding light off"

"Nice bike but freddish kit"

...

:pac:

Somehow it does not look positive to me, sideway head movement usually means "no".

Personally I open my right hand without lifting it from handlebar to greet oncoming cyclists on longer spins and in areas ridden bit less than Dublin>Eniskerry route on Saturday

Kinet1c

I give a nod and will generally get a response back. When I don't :mad:

Encrypted Pigeon

I tend to give a salute when I can, but more often than not all I get in return is a look as to say "what is that bloated looking daffodil doing trying to ride a bike"

marty_crane

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

I was having a well earned break on a ditch on the N81

Yeah, I'm in it for the glamour too

diomed

gadetra wrote: »

He had a hole in the árse of his shorts too. that was unpleasant to say the least!

Hi-viz

Hani Kosti

CramCycle wrote: »

I have only met three types of cyclists who don't wave back:
Triathletes - they are not really cyclists
Cyclists with nearly full kit but wearing runners instead of going with cleats - they don't know any better, give them time
Orwell Wheelers - too good to communicate with the rest of us plebs :pac:

Zing!!!! Still enjoy the feeling of being able to outrun a cyclist uphill on a windy day 😂😂😂

Bloggsie

passed a posse from Lucan on the way out of Kilcock yesterday, 10-15 of them & not one of de hoors bothered to say hello, good morning, hows it going.

all far to busy talking & causing a tail back into Kilcock. Where as any lone cyclist or two's i passed were very happy to give a shout out.

must be a club thing!

Idleater

Bloggsie wrote: »

passed a posse from Lucan on the way out of Kilcock yesterday, 10-15 of them & not one of de hoors bothered to say hello, good morning, hows it going.

all far to busy talking & causing a tail back into Kilcock. Where as any lone cyclist or two's i passed were very happy to give a shout out.

must be a club thing!

I waved, and got chastened for saying hi to a loner probably with nothing better to do than complain on internet forums. You should pay more attention.

the above is simulated truth

Belated .o/ from lcrc.

daragh_

Everyone in Lucan is a gent and a scholar and I won't hear a word sent against them.



That's got to be worth a least one lead out or a cash alternative.

Bloggsie

idleater,

muchos gracias. i very much appreciate the gesture. you sir/madam are unique.

daragh,

"everyone in Lucan is a gent and a scholar", even the female members! wow thats some club, no doubt about it!

Wishbone Ash

Saluted a fellow club mate this evening (both of us in club kit) - no response!

MugMugs

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Saluted a fellow club mate this evening (both of us in club kit) - no response!

Never understood that. I've been blanked by an entire opposite approaching club pelaton before. Odd.

Lusk_Doyle

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Saluted a fellow club mate this evening (both of us in club kit) - no response!

Where was that? I was behind one of your club mates yesterday at the lights, which were red, going over the M1 for Swords. Guess what he did? I didn't wave.

Wishbone Ash

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Where was that?...

North Dublin City - I'm going to check Strava FlyBy and hunt him down!

Bloggsie

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Saluted a fellow club mate this evening (both of us in club kit) - no response!

I know what his problem is he a member of the peoples front of judea & your not, your a member of the judean peoples front!

Schecter01

Splitters!!

The Noble Nudge

MugMugs wrote: »

Never understood that. I've been blanked by an entire opposite approaching club pelaton before. Odd.

Phew I feel better now....I thought I was the only other one besides Arry Potter who had an invisibility cloak....:D:D
Must have been 1000 in this spin I see recently they only allow 300 register......beat that MugMugs:p:cool:

Brian?

daragh_ wrote: »

Everyone in Lucan is a gent and a scholar and I won't hear a word sent against them.



That's got to be worth a least one lead out or a cash alternative.

I'd politely disagree. As a cyclist who shares a lot of road with them, I've been subject to some downright boorish behaviour.

I was out with a mate for his maiden voyage on his shiny new bike the other week. We were passed by a Lucan group, one of geniuses in the group shouted "hurry up or get off the road" as they passed. A nice "welcome to cycling" for my mate. Much discussion about cycling etiquette ensued.

I'm sure there are some lovely people in Lucan, but this really pissed me off.

Schecter01

I'm Lucan born and bred, and while i moved away 3 years ago, I met 2 of the lucan club recently, and went to say hi to my fellow Lucan folk, ask them how they were getting i on, they weren't in the east bit interested in talking to me, and we're almost rude about it, but I put this down to individuals not a group, every group or society has its assholes, I wouldn't tar the entire lot.

The Noble Nudge

CramCycle

Schecter01 wrote: »

I wouldn't tar the entire lot.

I wouldn't know, they are either behind me or I overtake too quickly, either way, never gave them a chance to be rude :cool:

Lusk_Doyle

Schecter01 wrote: »

I'm Lucan born and bred, and while i moved away 3 years ago, I met 2 of the lucan club recently, and went to say hi to my fellow Lucan folk, ask them how they were getting i on, they weren't in the east bit interested in talking to me, and we're almost rude about it, but I put this down to individuals not a group, every group or society has its assholes, I wouldn't tar the entire lot.

They could have been from Longford and relying on the almost identical kit design and club letters to tar the [good?] name of Lucan riders!

MLC61

I have no problem with someone not waving. I have sometimes felt like that when there seems to be an never ending stream of cyclists coming in the opposite direction.
I will always say hello or good morning to someone if I pass them.
Passed two older guys on Sunday between Lucan and Leixlip and they were the first time I have experienced rudeness. Had matching gear with Usher on it.

OldBean

MLC61 wrote: »

Had matching gear with Usher on it.

Terrifying gear.

Back on topic, I'd always give a wave from the tops whilst cycling. Often not gotten a reply, but it's never bothered me. The only **** thing that happened was one of my first times heading up the Wicklow mountains. I was pretty heavy at the time, and two guys came up behind me and shouted 'WIDE LOAD' before laughing and shot up the hill. I felt like ****, turned the bike 'round and went home. What's made up for it is all the random conversations I've had struggling up other hills since then - I'm a terrible climber, so appreciate someone else having a chat on the way up to take the mind off.

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Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

They could have been from Longford and relying on the almost identical kit design and club letters to tar the [good?] name of Lucan riders!

Hey now don't be trying to tarnish the friendly Longfordian's reputation! We're a friendly people. (Even though I actually haven't lived there for 12 years and know nothing about that club, but still, home pride and all that!)

OldBean wrote: »

Terrifying gear.
Back on topic, I'd always give a wave from the tops from cycling. Often not gotten a reply, but it's never bothered me. The only **** thing that happened was one of my first times heading up the Wicklow mountains. I was pretty heavy at the time, and two guys came up behind me and shouted 'WIDE LOAD' before laughing and shot up the hill. I felt like ****, turned the bike 'round and went home.

Jesus that's horrible. If someone did that to me I'd eat the head off them :mad:

Lusk_Doyle

gadetra wrote: »

Hey now don't be trying to tarnish the friendly Longfordian's reputation! We're a friendly people. (Even though I actually haven't lived there for 12 years and know nothing about that club, but still, home pride and all that!)

Ah it's cool. Sure I'm half Longford. My "mammy" is from Clondra!

Wishbone Ash

OldBean wrote: »

... one of my first times heading up the Wicklow mountains. I was pretty heavy at the time, and two guys came up behind me and shouted 'WIDE LOAD' before laughing and shot up the hill. I felt like ****, turned the bike 'round and went home....

I had kind of the opposite experience a while back on Howth. I passed two heavy lads who were sweating profusely. Gave a polite rise of the left hand and said 'evenin' lads'. One responded 'You fcuker - stop making it look so easy'.

(I wouldn't mind but I'm fairly mediocre at climbing).

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Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Ah it's cool. Sure I'm half Longford. My "mammy" is from Clondra!

No way! You have my deepest sympathies Ah no, it's the best of breeding sure
I will say you're lucky your Mother got out - Longford is where dreams go to die.

Lusk_Doyle

gadetra wrote: »

No way! You have my deepest sympathies Ah no, it's the best of breeding sure
I will say you're lucky your Mother got out - Longford is where dreams go to die.

Yea, I know. We used to go there many weekends when I lost dreams and wellies in mahoosive piles of cow dung!

a148pro

OldBean wrote: »

. I was pretty heavy at the time, and two guys came up behind me and shouted 'WIDE LOAD' before laughing and shot up the hill. I felt like ****, turned the bike 'round and went home.

That's off the spectrum, complete assholes, hope they blew out on descent, painfully if possible

Schecter01

You should of replied 'I thought dicks wore latex not spandex' . Tossers

Puggy

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Lads in full Sky kit don't like to be engaged in any conversation even though they will stop elbow to elbow with you.

I passed a member of my own club yesterday, sporting the pink Boards Jersey. I waved so much, I loosened the bolts on my stem. Sadly the gesture was not returned.

You can take the man out of Donegal, but you cant take Donegal out of the man

Wishbone Ash

Puggy wrote: »

I passed a member of my own club yesterday, sporting the pink Boards Jersey. I waved so much, I loosened the bolts on my stem. Sadly the gesture was not returned.

You can take the man out of Donegal, but you cant take Donegal out of the man

I just thought you were some sort of lunatic with your arms flailing about!

arybvtcw0eolkf

Went out today with this thread on my mind, and decided for the craic I'd acknowledge every cyclist on my commute.. From Portmarnock to Sutton, into Fairview (I didn't nod in the city) then out to Swords, Malahide Estuary, Portmarnock, Howth summit & harbour then back to Portmarnock.

Being a holiday the roads were full of cyclists and get this ~ I got ONE nod returned, ONE!!.

Why bother

G1032

Tenley Tiny Paycheck wrote: »

Went out today with this thread on my mind, and decided for the craic I'd acknowledge every cyclist on my commute.. From Portmarnock to Sutton, into Fairview (I didn't nod in the city) then out to Swords, Malahide Estuary, Portmarnock, Howth summit & harbour then back to Portmarnock.

Being a holiday the roads were full of cyclists and get this ~ I got ONE nod returned, ONE!!.

Why bother

You have to understand that they're probably all doing very important training and would use up unnecessary calories /energy by returning your greeting.

arybvtcw0eolkf

G1032 wrote: »

You have to understand that they're probably all doing very important training and would use up unnecessary calories /energy by returning your greeting.

Well because I burned up so many more cals I awarded myself with a bacon sambo and a mug of tea on my return

Wishbone Ash

Tenley Tiny Paycheck wrote: »

Went out today with this thread on my mind, and decided for the craic I'd acknowledge every cyclist on my commute.. From Portmarnock to Sutton, into Fairview (I didn't nod in the city) then out to Swords, Malahide Estuary, Portmarnock, Howth summit & harbour then back to Portmarnock.

Being a holiday the roads were full of cyclists and get this ~ I got ONE nod returned, ONE!!.

Why bother

Were you in your work gear? :pac:

monkeyslayer

Iv a rather expensive lightweight, small and highly breathable montaine jacket I bought for the Himalayas a couple of years ago that I wear on particularly cold days, but as it has a hood I get virtually no hellos, nods or nothing when I wear it on the bike... The other jacket, the windproof biking cut and seemingly sociable one never seems to have this problem. Fickle bunch cyclists

a148pro

Tenley Tiny Paycheck wrote: »

Went out today with this thread on my mind, and decided for the craic I'd acknowledge every cyclist on my commute.. From Portmarnock to Sutton, into Fairview (I didn't nod in the city) then out to Swords, Malahide Estuary, Portmarnock, Howth summit & harbour then back to Portmarnock.

Being a holiday the roads were full of cyclists and get this ~ I got ONE nod returned, ONE!!.

I cycle that route a lot so imagine it was busy today, pretty poor show. Maybe they thought you were some kind of dogging cyclist who was nodding in some secret code that meant you would stop and have some kind of impromptu sexual liaison in the next car park? You just never know these days.

Lusk_Doyle

Tenley Tiny Paycheck wrote: »

Went out today with this thread on my mind, and decided for the craic I'd acknowledge every cyclist on my commute.. From Portmarnock to Sutton, into Fairview (I didn't nod in the city) then out to Swords, Malahide Estuary, Portmarnock, Howth summit & harbour then back to Portmarnock.

Being a holiday the roads were full of cyclists and get this ~ I got ONE nod returned, ONE!!.

Why bother

Virtue is its own reward.

Brian?

Tenley Tiny Paycheck wrote: »

Went out today with this thread on my mind, and decided for the craic I'd acknowledge every cyclist on my commute.. From Portmarnock to Sutton, into Fairview (I didn't nod in the city) then out to Swords, Malahide Estuary, Portmarnock, Howth summit & harbour then back to Portmarnock.

Being a holiday the roads were full of cyclists and get this ~ I got ONE nod returned, ONE!!.

Why bother

Don't give up man, keep fighting the good fight. One day we'll meet on the road and share a glorious head nod/one finger wave exchange.

yop

Passed out 2 cyclists, waved and shouted good morning to both, nothing back.
Meet same girl again on the return, waved to her and smiled, not a bean. Passed the same lad again, shouted LOVELY morning to him, not a bean out of him.

Meet 8 more cyclists in total then, all saluted me, 3 different cycling clubs, we are just a friendly bunch down here

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

OldBean wrote: »

Back on topic, I'd always give a wave from the tops whilst cycling. Often not gotten a reply, but it's never bothered me. The only **** thing that happened was one of my first times heading up the Wicklow mountains. I was pretty heavy at the time, and two guys came up behind me and shouted 'WIDE LOAD' before laughing and shot up the hill. I felt like ****, turned the bike 'round and went home. What's made up for it is all the random conversations I've had struggling up other hills since then - I'm a terrible climber, so appreciate someone else having a chat on the way up to take the mind off.

What a pair of scumbags. I wouldn't let that get you down. I cannot stand bullies...

Luxman

I had a very enthusiastic wave from a fellow cyclist today, didn't know them but they didn't just raise a finger off the bars , nor did they give a head nod, oh no, I was waved at, proper like. It was a full arm outstretched and if I was a little closer and not distracted by my plummeting average we might just have been able to hi 5 it in the middle of the road!!

arybvtcw0eolkf

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Were you in your work gear? :pac:

Ok the cat is out of the bag;

Brian? wrote: »

Don't give up man, keep fighting the good fight. One day we'll meet on the road and share a glorious head nod/one finger wave exchange.

Better yet, a thumb ar :P

boredatwork82

Tenley Tiny Paycheck wrote: »

Went out today with this thread on my mind, and decided for the craic I'd acknowledge every cyclist on my commute.. From Portmarnock to Sutton, into Fairview (I didn't nod in the city) then out to Swords, Malahide Estuary, Portmarnock, Howth summit & harbour then back to Portmarnock.

Being a holiday the roads were full of cyclists and get this ~ I got ONE nod returned, ONE!!.

Why bother

I did a bit of that lap too. went from Artane and around howth and back. only a short spin, first one this year and in Dublin. Was really disappointed with some cyclists reactions, some of the passing cyclists just stared at you , I tried to give a wave, but I am too big and fat so I struggle with the balance. Then going up the hill I gave good nods, none returned. Had a chat with a guy I passed on the hill, then relaxed on the way back, so chatted for a km or before we went different ways.

Down the country you get more nods, and waves.