Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/3

Nalz

irishfeen wrote: »

in one way it's a testament to how far we have come in such a short time that we're all disappointed that we lost to Chelsea at Stamford Bridge 1-0.

Well said. I would have laughed at you 2 months ago even if you told me how good its been the last 7 or 8 games.

KH25

Yesterday was not a bad result all things considered. Chelsea defended as if their lives depended on it. We pretty much ran the show against the top team which is a great achievement when you see where we were a few months back.

Will I Amnt

KH25 wrote: »

Yesterday was not a bad result all things considered. Chelsea defended as if their lives depended on it. We pretty much ran the show against the top team which is a great achievement when you see where we were a few months back.

It was a bad result, every game you lose is a bad result. It was a good performance though... although it was very kind of Mourinho to tell his players not to bother playing for most of the game because United would make a mistake just before halftime and they'd be grand.

Al Capwned

Watched extended highlights this morning of the game yesterday, as i didnt get to see it yest and I'm not half as pissed off at losing to Chelsea as some might be.
We matched them all over the field from what I seen, apart from up front, even with Rooney and his Hollywood passes in CM. If we have one of Carrick or Blind fit, we win that game yesterday I think.

McNair looks like he's gonna be a really good player with a bit of luck.

Which brings me to Falcao. Let's call a spade a spade here, we were all delighted when he signed, but he's ****ed. That injury has finished him, at least at the level we need him to be at.
Hope we don't have to endure watching him playing for United again, and that's from one of his biggest fans. ****ed.

pmasterson95

Thank god tide is finally against Falcao. The adulation just never matched performances.

MagicIRL

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Thank god tidwe is finally against Falcao. The adulation just never matched performances.

It absolutely did match his performances. Easily the best striker in the world prior to his injury. Forgive fans for wanting to give the lad a chance to reach those highs again.

Lucas Hood

Need to send this to the journalists for when they interview Lvg

Nalz

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Need to send this to the journalists for when they interview Lvg

lol - points 5, 6 and 7 especially!

pmasterson95

MagicIRL wrote: »

It absolutely did match his performances. Easily the best striker in the world prior to his injury. Forgive fans for wanting to give the lad a chance to reach those highs again.

Sorry I meant his performances wearing the Manchester United jersey after his injury. He wasnt with us before injuries when he was world class hes here now and hes crap. He had chances and failed miserably repeatedly. Hes not the same player he once was or perhaps like Forlan England doesnt suit him. Either way I wont cry that he wont be at United next year.

Average-Ro

If we sign Ings, and Burnley stay up; I'd like to see Wilson go on loan there for next season. Possibly Januzaj too.

Or we take Nani back and send Januzaj to Sporting. Either way both need to go somewhere to get more football.

MagicIRL

I think Wilson would do well at Crystal Palace. He's polar opposite to Murray and Bolassie / Zaha will give him pace in behind.

Januzaj just needs game after game playing out wide to improve his decisions. A very talented footballer but he's young and prone to making poor decisions. That'll go with experience.

Vic Vinegar

Ings has said recently he wants to sign for a club where he will be guaranteed plenty of games (paraphrasing slightly, obviously) i think that would rule out coming to United anyway, especially if we are going to be playing 4-3-3 on a regular basis. He'd get games at Liverpool as Sturridge's main position is on the treatment table.

macslash

Kirby wrote: »

Nope. A strong case of the old Pires leg. He kicked Cahill and then threw himself to the ground. Knew exactly what he was doing and the ref was one hundred percent right to book him.

To be honest, I'm amazed it wasn't Young who did it. Herrera clearly is a crafty fellow after all.

Thanks. Only saw it from distance in the pub!

Average-Ro

MagicIRL wrote: »

I think Wilson would do well at Crystal Palace. He's polar opposite to Murray and Bolassie / Zaha will give him pace in behind.

Januzaj just needs game after game playing out wide to improve his decisions. A very talented footballer but he's young and prone to making poor decisions. That'll go with experience.

Palace also a good shout. But I'm very weary about Pardew next season. He has previous starting off really well at a club, but then going downhill.

Maximus Alexander

Vic Vinegar wrote: »

Ings has said recently he wants to sign for a club where he will be guaranteed plenty of games (paraphrasing slightly, obviously) i think that would rule out coming to United anyway, especially if we are going to be playing 4-3-3 on a regular basis. He'd get games at Liverpool as Sturridge's main position is on the treatment table.

I could be wrong, but I just can't imagine a Burnley player turning down Manchester United for a non-CL team.

jayo26

only that ings is outnof contract i dont think id want the club to be signing him he has good potential but in my opinion he should stay with burnley for another year especially if they stay up he needs consistancy and to develope a bit more,

If we were going to sign benteke id like to see him coming in he has done it for last 3 years in premiership he had a quiet first half to this season but sherwood turned him around and he would challenge rooney as well as having some potential to improve in the future Plus he is very strong and good at holding up the ball.

Average-Ro

jayo26 wrote: »

only that ings is outnof contract i dont think id want the club to be signing him he has good potential but in my opinion he should stay with burnley for another year especially if they stay up he needs consistancy and to develope a bit more,

If we were going to sign benteke id like to see him coming in he has done it for last 3 years in premiership he had a quiet first half to this season but sherwood turned him around and he would challenge rooney as well as having some potential to improve in the future Plus he is very strong and good at holding up the ball.

Benteke would be a nice addition to the squad, but I have a feeling he'd cost way to much for what is essentially a back-up role. (Though I would prefer to see him come in instead of Ings)

Shanotheslayer

Al Capwned wrote: »

Watched extended highlights this morning of the game yesterday, as i didnt get to see it yest and I'm not half as pissed off at losing to Chelsea as some might be.
We matched them all over the field from what I seen, apart from up front, even with Rooney and his Hollywood passes in CM. If we have one of Carrick or Blind fit, we win that game yesterday

Stupid thing to say. Could just as easily say if Chelsea had Costa/Remy they'd win by more etc. Ifs and buts.

irishfeen

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Stupid thing to say. Could just as easily say if Chelsea had Costa/Remy they'd win by more etc. Ifs and buts.

I think they would have just swapped Drogba for Costa and played exactly the same...

jayo26

Average-Ro wrote: »

Benteke would be a nice addition to the squad, but I have a feeling he'd cost way to much for what is essentially a back-up role. (Though I would prefer to see him come in instead of Ings)

I dont think he would be that over priced everyone knows villa are run on a budget and sell to buy and if it turns out that benteke would want to come to united well then that works in our favour, also i dont think he would be just back up, he is still relatively young and id say rooney wont be around for ever but if we signed benteke and he develoed a bit more over the next year or so i think he woud be really challenging rooney for a starting position,

blackwave

Lord TSC wrote: »

The Sun says Manchester United are keen on Borussia Dortmund midfielder Ilkay Gundogan, who is entering the last year of his contract and could be looking for a move now boss Jurgen Klopp is leaving.

A few reports saying Manchester United midfielder Angel Di Maria, 27, has told the club he wants to stay and is set to extend the lease on his new family home

The Star says Aston Villa's Christian Benteke has emerged as a possible transfer target for Manchester United this summer with boss Louis van Gaal looking to bolster his attacking options.

Also, the Depay stories continue; the word a little while back was that no move would be finalized until PSV won the title, which they did yesterday, so expect that story to flair up again now.

Gundogan would be a brilliant signing imo, but my biggest concern is how injury prone the chap is. I remember reading ages ago that his back gives him a lot of trouble which he was out injured for ages with.

As for Benteke, I think he would be a good back up striker to have.

Potential Underachiever

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

don't do a Rodgers and look like a fool, what Chelsea did was admirable because they'll win the league from it. Reckon we would have beaten them if it was an open game but Mourinho made sure it wasn't. They played the best football of any team in the league up until Christmas, Mourinho got it wrong in Europe but the league title isn't a half bad fallback.

Regardless of the result we are still looking good, make sure of top 4, focus on getting the right players and Van Gaal's prediction of winning a league has a great chance of coming in next season I feel.

Well, there is a hell of a lot of fools on here isn't there?

Seems like a lot of people are very bitter about that defeat but trying to put a positive spin on it, no respect towards Chelsea or Mourinho, You'd swear Utd were playing total football the way yous are talking, don't forget they were serving up shyte football all season until about 4 games ago, now all of a sudden LVG is the man and Mourinho is a donkey etc etc , calm down lads.

Will I Amnt

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Well, there is a hell of a lot of fools on here isn't there?

Seems like a lot of people are very bitter about that defeat but trying to put a positive spin on it, no respect towards Chelsea or Mourinho, You'd swear Utd were playing total football the way yous are talking, don't forget they were serving up shyte football all season until about 4 games ago, now all of a sudden LVG is the man and Mourinho is a donkey etc etc , calm down lads.

Nobody is saying anything like that. Stop talking bollox.
The post you quoted was paying respect to Mourinho for what he did, strange choice from you.

Vic Vinegar

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Well, there is a hell of a lot of fools on here isn't there?

Seems like a lot of people are very bitter about that defeat but trying to put a positive spin on it, no respect towards Chelsea or Mourinho, You'd swear Utd were playing total football the way yous are talking, don't forget they were serving up shyte football all season until about 4 games ago, now all of a sudden LVG is the man and Mourinho is a donkey etc etc , calm down lads.

Jog on.

pmasterson95

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Well, there is a hell of a lot of fools on here isn't there?

Seems like a lot of people are very bitter about that defeat but trying to put a positive spin on it, no respect towards Chelsea or Mourinho, You'd swear Utd were playing total football the way yous are talking, don't forget they were serving up shyte football all season until about 4 games ago, now all of a sudden LVG is the man and Mourinho is a donkey etc etc , calm down lads.

I guess your a bit high strung due to Liverpool playing Villa. Chill out. Put down the beer.

MagicIRL

Average-Ro wrote: »

Palace also a good shout. But I'm very weary about Pardew next season. He has previous starting off really well at a club, but then going downhill.

Yeah, I agree regarding Pardew. Newcastle could be a good shout if they get a quality manager. Wilson up front with Cabella/De Jong behind him could work wonders, as could Villa with the likes of Agbonlahor providing pace for him.

Chap has planty of options in Premier League clubs, and no doubt would excel in Spain or another European country.

Lord TSC

PSV directors confirm interest shown from United and PSG for Depay. Said that PSG tried to get him in the winter window, but they turned them down.

MagicIRL

Lord TSC wrote: »

PSV directors confirm interest shown from United and PSG for Depay. Said that PSG tried to get him in the winter window, but they turned them down.

Cantona's Collars

Lord TSC wrote: »

PSV directors confirm interest shown from United and PSG for Depay. Said that PSG tried to get him in the winter window, but they turned them down.

https://twitter.com/UtdReport/status/589721516063006720

Average-Ro

jayo26 wrote: »

I dont think he would be that over priced everyone knows villa are run on a budget and sell to buy and if it turns out that benteke would want to come to united well then that works in our favour, also i dont think he would be just back up, he is still relatively young and id say rooney wont be around for ever but if we signed benteke and he develoed a bit more over the next year or so i think he woud be really challenging rooney for a starting position,

Apparently he signed for Villa for £7million. They'd probably look for £20million+ for him, considering how important he is to the team.

I'd love to have him at Utd, but I'd be wary of paying over 20million considering what his role would be.

Average-Ro

MagicIRL wrote: »

Yeah, I agree regarding Pardew. Newcastle could be a good shout if they get a quality manager. Wilson up front with Cabella/De Jong behind him could work wonders, as could Villa with the likes of Agbonlahor providing pace for him.

Chap has planty of options in Premier League clubs, and no doubt would excel in Spain or another European country.

Or what about West Brom if Berahino moves in the Summer?

Like you said, he'll have plenty of options. Just have to make sure it doesn't turn out like Rossi's loan at Newcastle.

kona

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Well, there is a hell of a lot of fools on here isn't there?

Seems like a lot of people are very bitter about that defeat but trying to put a positive spin on it, no respect towards Chelsea or Mourinho, You'd swear Utd were playing total football the way yous are talking, don't forget they were serving up shyte football all season until about 4 games ago, now all of a sudden LVG is the man and Mourinho is a donkey etc etc , calm down lads.

Judging by your username your a Liverpool supporter .

Lol hate that.

jayo26

Average-Ro wrote: »

Apparently he signed for Villa for £7million. They'd probably look for £20million+ for him, considering how important he is to the team.

I'd love to have him at Utd, but I'd be wary of paying over 20million considering what his role would be.

Well if you compare the prices paid for bony and lukaku maybe 20 or 25 million would be a good deal for him? I think he is better then just a backup player nd im sure that if we qualify for champs league next year he will still play a lot of games,

Lord TSC

Lord TSC wrote: »

A few reports saying Manchester United midfielder Angel Di Maria, 27, has told the club he wants to stay and is set to extend the lease on his new family home

It's a terror what the bit of sun and a stretch in the evenings will do. :pac:

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Thank god tide is finally against Falcao. The adulation just never matched performances.

Lots of posters are rightfully expressing varying forms of frustration and closure with Falcao, his card is stamped with all but a few by now and he simply has not been good enough to warrant a place in the team, let alone a £40m fee.

You however seem to be on a personal quest against him, definitely going by yesterday's match thread and in here where you more or less copy and pasted the same post between the two threads during the match calling him a donkey, and dismissing those who wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt until season's end as a lesser kind of "fan".

The man scored 41 goals from 48 appearances for Porto, 52 from 67 for Athletico Madrid and 11 from 17 for Monaco. That is the reason why some actually wanted to give him a bit of time at the club before pressing the emergency eject button. We're not all physicians and sports psychologists who can see from the odd game on the television that the 29 year old is definitely crocked, and not just having a slow reintroduction to the game.

He hasn't done nearly enough to warrant signing this Summer, but I'd argue that he has done enough to earn at the least a bit of respect. If not for the player he was up until the injury, maybe for the 4 goals and 4 assists he has bagged for United, and the passion he shows those rare times he has scored while wearing the red.

"Thank god the tide is finally turning against Falcao". Unless you are actually Zlatan Ibrahimovic, the time you are putting into this vandetta is a bit sad, with all due respect.

keane2097

Pmasterson's obsession with Falcao is 100% creepy imo, have never seen him post on any other topic

Robson99

Positives yesterday were the back four and Herrera who was very good n e middle of the park.
Negatives Young, Mata and Fellani who were all poor. Feel sorry or Falcao. Just not a patch on the great player he once was. Thought he was fouled in the build up to the goal, but DeGea handled outside the box on another occasion and got away with it.
On Benteke, he would be an excellent signing and the ideal CF for a 433. We will have enough games for him, Rooney and Wilson next season

irishfeen

https://twitter.com/skyfootball/status/589808791304200193

Sky saying it now too

Manutd_4life

irishfeen wrote: »

https://twitter.com/skyfootball/status/589808791304200193

Sky saying it now too

Its happening!!!!

Liverpool about to get knocked out. lol

J. Marston

Manutd_4life wrote: »

Its happening!!!!

Liverpool about to get knocked out. lol

Shh.

Hococop

Manutd_4life wrote: »

Its happening!!!!

Liverpool about to get knocked out. lol

Now why would you say that you know that jinx's it

Manutd_4life

I'll take full responsibility if Liverpool equalise now....

Lovely Bloke

That's a pretty smalltime post

PhlegmyMoses

I think that Benteke would be great for the style of play we currently play. Occupies the defenders, has a decent first touch, is a worry in behind and is generally clinical when a chance comes his way.

J. Marston

Get in. Fecking beautiful.

Well done, Cleverley.

Vic Vinegar

I can't believe anyone over the age of 8 actually believes that something they say in a forum will affect events in a football game miles away, but whatever.

Al Capwned

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Stupid thing to say. Could just as easily say if Chelsea had Costa/Remy they'd win by more etc. Ifs and buts.

The point being it's extremely rare for both Carrick and Blind to be unavailable at the same time. One of them being fit releases Rooney to play up front, and strengthens us in midfield as well, which is more of an observation than a stupid thing to say but whatever you reckon....

MagicIRL

Vic Vinegar wrote: »

I can't believe anyone over the age of 8 actually believes that something they say in a forum will affect events in a football game miles away, but whatever.

Someone's clearly forgotten FutureGuy and his magic powers.

Liam McPoyle

#rodgersin

Lord TSC

Welbeck or Cleverly are going to win one more trophy than us this season

jayo26

Lord TSC wrote: »

Welbeck or Cleverly are going to win one more trophy than us this season

Id happily take that trade off to be successful next season, but either one deserves it to be honest,