Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/3

Pro. F

I normally think it's better to keep loanees in England, just for the sake of keeping an eye on them, but LVG would have plenty of contacts in the Netherlands so I suppose that wouldn't be a problem.

PSV could be great for Adnan. He'd get plenty of games and plenty of possession to work with in games. Something that would worry me though are the stories of how PSV juiced Ronaldo up when he was with them. Hopefully they aren't at that crack anymore and wouldn't try to tempt a loanee into it.

symbolic

Pro. F wrote: »

just for the sake of keeping an eye on them

In what sense?

TheMilkyPirate

Pro. F wrote: »

I normally think it's better to keep loanees in England, just for the sake of keeping an eye on them, but LVG would have plenty of contacts in the Netherlands so I suppose that wouldn't be a problem.

PSV could be great for Adnan. He'd get plenty of games and plenty of possession to work with in games. Something that would worry me though are the stories of how PSV juiced Ronaldo up when he was with them. Hopefully they aren't at that crack anymore and wouldn't try to tempt a loanee into it.

Not sure what you mean here, Are you trying to say that Manchester United would have problems keeping tabs on a loanee if he wasn't based in England?

Your second point makes PSV sound like some sort of crack den enticing youngsters into taking drugs, Relax.

The Moldy Gowl

its 2015 pro, i can stream games from kathmandu.

Benteke with 2 so far against Everton, I wonder what money it would take to get him in.

Vic Vinegar

Clev with another goal! He's doing well recently, fair play to him.

Cantona's Collars

adox wrote: »

#YNFA

You'll Never Fly Again?? :pac:

Nalz

Vic Vinegar wrote: »

Clev with another goal! He's doing well recently, fair play to him.

against Wigan Everton too

Growing to dislike them a little, happy to see Villa doing well

Only downside is though with Villa and Sunderland winning, Leicester winning this morning its looking tough for Hull. We play them on the last day. Hopefully we'll have top 3 sown up by then. 4th means we've to qualify for CL.

Nalz

stankratz wrote: »

Benteke with 2 so far against Everton, I wonder what money it would take to get him in.

around €30-35m I'd say

sky88

QPR Rooney in midfield:(

Nalz

match thread?

MuPpItJoCkEy

Benteke was unlucky being injured and missing the World Cup. I've always though he was a great player and one I'd like to see come to United as he does have the Premiership know how in him and after a lenghty layoff and playing with a team that's struggled most of the season, things have changed for Villa with him coming back into the side and returning to his old self.

GSPfan

Would love to see Newcastle go down. Most deluded fans and worst owner in the league. Those fans would be begging for Pardew back now.

Nalz

GSPfan wrote: »

Would love to see Newcastle go down. Most deluded fans and worst owner in the league. Those fans would be begging for Pardew back now.

don't bring That_Guy in here

Pro. F

symbolic wrote: »

In what sense?

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Not sure what you mean here, Are you trying to say that Manchester United would have problems keeping tabs on a loanee if he wasn't based in England?

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

its 2015 pro, i can stream games from kathmandu.

By keeping an eye on a player I mean watching and listening to what is going on in their social and private lives; who they are mixing with; what they are doing for entertainment; what they are eating; how their training is going; how they are growing physically and mentally. The type of stuff that ends up with a manager going in and breaking up a house party in the middle of the night, or ringing a player up for a chat when they've broken up with a girlfriend. When players go on loan all of that naturally becomes harder to do and some or all of the information gathering that is required probably has to be delegated to trusted contacts. It's a lot of trust to be putting in those contacts.

A Dutch manager who has worked in the country a lot - and up until very recently too - would have those types of contacts in the Netherlands. That's why I say that it's not so much of an issue with LVG as the boss.

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Your second point makes PSV sound like some sort of crack den enticing youngsters into taking drugs, Relax.

You are naive if you think PEDs aren't a huge issue in the game.

Nolars

Poor bebe got smacked 8-0 by Barca I see.

Pro. F

Excited to see Van Persie back and to see how Hererra gets on in a deeper role again today.

adox

Lack of tempo again in that first half. Game crying out for Di Maria. Both WBA "full backs" susceptible to players running at them.

Too much football by numbers that first half. Decent but needs a sparkle.

RVP leading the line well.

J. Marston

Fellaini as striker against West Brom, at Old Trafford.

Holy moly....

KH25

I hate Pulis teams. They don't even attempt to play the game.

The Moldy Gowl

J. Marston wrote: »

Fellaini as striker against West Brom, at Old Trafford.

Holy moly....

Ahh the classic j. Marston hyperbolic post match statement is in early.

KH25

This is just not going to be our day.

J. Marston

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Ahh the classic j. Marston hyperbolic post match statement is in early.

I merely stated my displeasure at seeing Fellaini up front.

Here's some actual hyperbole especially for you; We're gonna be playing in the Europa League next season.

Edit: A little more, because I like you. We're a one man team.

Brendan Flowers

When a penalty is saved why is it always referred to as a "missed penalty"? Why not call it a saved penalty? IMO it doesnt give the GK the credit he deserves for stopping the shot and can reflect harshly on a player who may have taken a perfectly good shot but just failed to beat the keeper. To me a missed penalty is one that failed to hit the target.

Just one of those little things that annoy me when I see it!

KH25

The lack of incisiveness needs to be sorted. Far too much of the game is being slowed down by our own players. Valencia and Young are 2 of them. Young constantly turns back to go on his right and Valencia comes to a standstill too often. It allows teams like this to set up against us.

The Moldy Gowl

J. Marston wrote: »

I merely stated my displeasure at seeing Fellaini up front.

Here's some actual hyperbole especially for you; We're gonna be playing in the Europa League next season.

Edit: A little more, because I like you. We're a one man team.

Yay, someone likes me. Yay. I like like you to.


Nah, we we will be playing in the champions leauge.

bucketybuck

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

When a penalty is saved why is it always referred to as a "missed penalty"? Why not call it a saved penalty? IMO it doesnt give the GK the credit he deserves for stopping the shot and can reflect harshly on a player who may have taken a perfectly good shot but just failed to beat the keeper. To me a missed penalty is one that failed to hit the target.

Because a properly taken penalty is simply not savable. Put it in the right spot and no keeper is getting to it, so if you don't score a penalty it is because you did not put it in the optimum place and gave the keeper a chance he shouldn't have.

J. Marston

Boaz fecking Myhill.....

bucketybuck

This result isn't really a surprise, we have been rubbish all season against teams that park the bus.

And why are we rubbish? Because every single one of our attacks at some point ends up at the feet of Ashley Young or Antonio Valencia. Thats where the ball goes time and time again, to the feet of two wingers who are the very antithesis of end product. It must be great to plan a defense against United, just wait until the chuckle brothers get the ball, one will hit our ankles and the other will hit it blind, job done!

That has to change, both the players and the style of play that encourages it.

The Moldy Gowl

This is such a bull**** FIFA game.

1 million% possession, 12000 shots, 1 missed penalty. Playing 1 defender.

Opposition gets 1 shot and scores. Their keeper saving unsavable shots.

The stream I'm watching, just put that nigga song on at 88 minutes. I **** you not.
Am I watching someone playing FIFA??

Think I'll just head to bed and call it a weekend.

Lord TSC

Sigh.

We don't seem to have a clue what to do when a team park the bus. I don't know, tactically, if there's much you can do about it, other than hope your players manage to break down those walls.

RVP did well to get chances, but he couldn't convert one, including a penalty. Rooney was anonymous. Again. Valencia offers nothing going forward. Blind had a dodgy game too,

Young did ok. Herrera was ok. A lot of anonymous performances after that.

We've made this run in far too difficult. 5 from 9 points needed now, but games only get harder. There was comments about a whole new squad next season, and I'd happily see it...

Hococop

**** sake

SlickRic

Stop trolling us.

glued

Rooney and Valencia need to go. Both consistently rubbish this year.

3 successive league defeats for the first time in 13 years, 3 full games without a goal, not nearly good enough.

KH25

Today demonstrates how we desperately need a winger and RB. Playing with Valencia is like being a man down. He offers nothing.

Manutd_4life

Not 1 goal in 3 games. Thats outrageous. Look at the table and pool are catching up slowly

Hococop

Why did rvp take the penalty

Will I Amnt

We're fairly sh*te tbh.

Schwiiing

If Young and Valencia are still at UTD and Fellaini is an attack focal point next season we can forget about a league challenge.

The Moldy Gowl

Really need to upgrade on Valencia and young. No matter how much they have been grand and solid.we really need better wide players.

Nolars

rooney is fair ****e as per usual aswell

Sand

Hococop wrote: »

Why did rvp take the penalty

Rooney missed the last one against Liverpool. Maybe LVG trusted RVP more, or maybe RVP just simply claimed it and Rooney didnt gainsay him.

Maximus Alexander

Well that's the goalkeeping situation solved. De Gea out, Myhill in.

Hank Scorpio

That was muck. Rooney was putrid

Schwiiing

Could this summer be the summer to cash in on Rooney?

Sand

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Really need to upgrade on Valencia and young. No matter how much they have been grand and solid.we really need better wide players.

Need a minimum of 2 central midfielders as well. Its not acceptable for us to be playing strikers and backup left backs in there whenever our soon to 34 year old first pick midfielder picks up an injury. Carrick has only been available for 50% of our games. Cant go into next season with Carrick still presumed as the first pick midfielder.

Kerrydude1981

My god watching that game would age you by 10 years.

FutureGuy

Dimaria will run Bebe close as worst performance in recent history. Absolutely fcuking hopeless performance.

No idea what to do with the ball except pass it sideways.

You can say all you want about WBAs tactics but we should be able to beat them regardless.

We are lucky Liverpool are missing Sturridge or they would be well ahead of us.

I just want this season to be over asap.

Will I Amnt

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

That was muck. Rooney was putrid

No, no, it's the fault of the players around him. If you analyse his game to death you can find somebody else to blame for every mistake he made.