Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/3

Backstreet Moyes

bangkok wrote: »

Fellaini wouldn't get into the Chelsea, City, arsenal, barca, real, athletico, psg, juventus, bayern, Liverpool teams either, I think that says it all

Answer the question which of our players would get into the Barca or Real side.

Backstreet Moyes

KombuchaMshroom wrote: »

You'd make a great politician in fairness to you.
You've an incredible ability to ignore the question asked of you while snowballing your own point!

To be honest i would say him along with a few others were annoyed Fellaini opened the scoring the last day.

Whatsisname

Speaking of Vermaelen, read last night he still didn't even make his Barca debut, thank god we didn't get him.

Backstreet Moyes

Has anybody seen much of Yarmelenko i have only seen the two games against Everton but my god he looks a beast.

bangkok

Nuts102 wrote: »

Answer the question which of our players would get into the Barca or Real side.

Barcelona IMO de gea, smalling, carrick, di Maria

Real Madrid IMO de gea di Maria carrick Rooney

bangkok

Nuts102 wrote: »

To be honest i would say him along with a few others were annoyed Fellaini opened the scoring the last day.

No, I was delighted, I'm looking at a bigger picture here

Whatsisname

Don't think this has been posted yet but LVG did a very honest and in depth interview with the Telegraph, definitely worth reading.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11483566/Louis-van-Gaal-Manchester-United-is-my-last-job-in-football-and-I-will-go-out-at-the-top.html

Talks about him growing up, to the philosophy, to relationship with players and an insight into which staff does what. Very interesting.

sky88

What are people thinking about left back for liverpool if its blind id be very worried about him getting done for pace against there wingbacks, granted i think any of the LBs have look great over a sustained period

bucketybuck

TheDoc wrote: »

This seems to be the defining feature of why he is the best, with many people outlining "He is doing things that have never been done before, he is innovating a position where we thought no innovation was left".

Who said that? Is there a link?

It seems to forget that a massive facet of Barca's tiki taka style involved the keeper acting as a sweeper, eschewing long balls in favour of constantly playing the ball short to a free man. I'd be interested to see the article that appears to be written by somebody with such a short memory.

Backstreet Moyes

Our best two games of football recently have been with Fellaini playing off Rooney and i hope it stays like that.

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

Barcelona IMO de gea, smalling, carrick, di Maria

Real Madrid IMO de gea di Maria carrick Rooney

Smalling in the barca squad??? I want some of what your smoking and I want it now.

Backstreet Moyes

sky88 wrote: »

What are people thinking about left back for liverpool if its blind id be very worried about him getting done for pace against there wingbacks, granted i think any of the LBs have look great over a sustained period

I would be happy with Blind once Young is in front of him to help him out. Just let him stick to Sterling for the game.

J. Marston

sky88 wrote: »

What are people thinking about left back for liverpool if its blind id be very worried about him getting done for pace against there wingbacks, granted i think any of the LBs have look great over a sustained period

I worried about Blind being caught for pace last weekend when up against Townsend and Walker but they provided no threat, or weren't allowed to.

I'd stick with Blind.

Backstreet Moyes

jayo26 wrote: »

Smalling in the barca squad??? I want some of what your smoking and I want it now.

Sure he thinks Carrick would start ahead of one of Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets or Rakitic.

Plus Di Maria would start for the side that just sold him.

bangkok

jayo26 wrote: »

Smalling in the barca squad??? I want some of what your smoking and I want it now.

you probably dont see much of barca only the odd champions league game, but mathieu plays centre back for them, he is to put it mildly not great, not sure if you noticed but they also signed thomas vermaelen and wouldnt exactly be quality either. pique wouldnt be the best defender either but very good on the ball. smalling would probably walk onto the team, as would rojo, jones or maybe even evans, but i had to pick one so i went for smalling

bangkok

Nuts102 wrote: »

Sure he thinks Carrick would start ahead of one of Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets or Rakitic.

Plus Di Maria would start for the side that just sold him.

and? he is still quality and better than james!!!

would ronaldo not start for united because we sold him?

thelad95

Bangkok wasn't it you that said that Michael Carrick was a poor man's Leon Britton?

beno619

jayo26 wrote: »

Smalling in the barca squad??? I want some of what your smoking and I want it now.

Barca are no great shakes at the back.

bangkok

thelad95 wrote: »

Bangkok wasn't it you that said that Michael Carrick was a poor man's Leon Britton?

no, not a chance

beno619

Nuts102 wrote: »

Sure he thinks Carrick would start ahead of one of Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets or Rakitic.

Plus Di Maria would start for the side that just sold him.

I wouldn't rate busquets that highly, Carrick would definitely be in with a shot at being the deep midfielder in the barca side.

bangkok

i also think mata and herrera would trive in the barca or real team, but i only picked 1 player from man utd for each position

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

you probably dont see much of barca only the odd champions league game, but mathieu plays centre back for them, he is to put it mildly not great, not sure if you noticed but they also signed thomas vermaelen and wouldnt exactly be quality either. pique wouldnt be the best defender either but very good on the ball. smalling would probably walk onto the team, as would rojo, jones or maybe even evans, but i had to pick one so i went for smalling

Man don't patronise me with the i only watch the odd champions league game if your trying to make yourself out to be some expert your doing a crap job of it. Id have pique and mascherano or Mathieu in cb before id have smalling, as to Carrick in midfield its like the man above me said you would put him ahead of xavi or iniesta or rakitick or busquets.

beno619

beno619 wrote: »

I wouldn't rate busquets that highly, Carrick would definitely be in with a shot at being the deep midfielder in the barca side.

Not sure if you're serious.

Busquets is one of the best DM of all time. He has everything. How would you not rate him highly?

The Moldy Gowl

rarnes1 wrote: »

Not sure if you're serious.

Busquets is one of the best DM of all time. He has everything. How would you not rate him highly?

Welcome to the utd thread where all is not what it seems. Beno is part of our drama society.

Backstreet Moyes

beno619 wrote: »

I wouldn't rate busquets that highly, Carrick would definitely be in with a shot at being the deep midfielder in the barca side.

I don't even know how to reply to that but my god wow.

beno619

rarnes1 wrote: »

Not sure if you're serious.

Busquets is one of the best DM of all time. He has everything. How would you not rate him highly?

Lots of average players can be elevated by the players around them. Anyway its just an opinion.

MythicalMadMan

J. Marston wrote: »

I worried about Blind being caught for pace last weekend when up against Townsend and Walker but they provided no threat, or weren't allowed to.

I'd stick with Blind.

I wonder is that why fellaini played on that side, if teams commit the left back or LWB they could be left very exposed with a quick ball up to Fellaini hence making blinds job at Lb easier as their LB would be less likely to commit forward.

miralize

beno619 wrote: »

Lots of average players can be elevated by the players around them. Anyway its just an opinion.

While I don't opinions can be wrong, that's one is based almost entirely in ignorance.

beno619

miralize wrote: »

While I don't opinions can be wrong, that's one is based almost entirely in ignorance.

My opinion of him is probably tainted by the fact I think he's as filthy as Saurez.

5starpool

Mascherano is a fantastic DM and he couldn't shift Busquets from that role at Barca which says it all really.

bangkok

jayo26 wrote: »

Man don't patronise me with the i only watch the odd champions league game if your trying to make yourself out to be some expert your doing a crap job of it. Id have pique and mascherano or Mathieu in cb before id have smalling, as to Carrick in midfield its like the man above me said you would put him ahead of xavi or iniesta or rakitick or busquets.

well i watch a lot of spanish football, most of the teams in fact, mathieu wouldnt be great, how he managed to get a move to Barca last season just shows the mess that that was goin on behind the scenes at barcelona with zubizaratta. mascherano is not even a centre half, barca play him there as they dont really have anyone else up to standard so to suggest "what im smoking" in regard to smalling being at barca thats my response

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

well i watch a lot of spanish football, most of the teams in fact, mathieu wouldnt be great, how he managed to get a move to Barca last season just shows the mess that that was goin on behind the scenes at barcelona with zubizaratta. mascherano is not even a centre half, barca play him there as they dont really have anyone else up to standard so to suggest "what im smoking" in regard to smalling being at barca thats my response

I still think your smoking something dogey mate ha.

bangkok

wenger when he said Carrick should have been player of the year 2 years ago, maybe 3

Wenger said. "He is a quality passer. He could play for Barcelona, he would be perfectly suited to their game. He has a good vision and is an intelligent player, and it is for what he has achieved in his whole career as well"

RobertKK

Jamie Carragher and a United player I never liked...Paul Ince on Off the Ball to talk about the match this hour.

Hated how Ince called himself the Guvnor/governor or whatever, when Keane was the person who ruled midfield...thankfully Fergie got rid of him.

Nalz

RobertKK wrote: »

Jamie Carragher and a United player I never liked...Paul Ince on Off the Ball to talk about the match this hour.

Hated how Ince called himself the Guvnor/governor or whatever, when Keane was the person who ruled midfield...thankfully Fergie got rid of him.

Ince was at Utd 4 or 5 seasons before Keane

RobertKK

Pogba not going to Real Madrid according to his agent...

‘Real Madrid are a club that is used to buying players like you buy a facecloth – and then throws them away like a facecloth,’ he told L'Equipe
‘We don’t want to go to a club like that.
We want to go to a club that believes in Paul’s potential.’

RobertKK

Trilla wrote: »

Ince was at Utd 4 or 5 seasons before Keane

They did play together though.

py2006

Jeez, most of team shouldnt be in the UTD team let alone being considerd for Barca!!

Go to bed now...

bangkok

RobertKK wrote: »

Pogba not going to Real Madrid according to his agent...

‘Real Madrid are a club that is used to buying players like you buy a facecloth – and then throws them away like a facecloth,’ he told L'Equipe
‘We don’t want to go to a club like that.
We want to go to a club that believes in Paul’s potential.’

agents are funny.... Do Juve not already believe in his potential then he should just stay

MagicIRL

Wigan got hammered in the Europa tonight. Delighted.

Coleman in the summer and how are ya doin' McCarthy?

Vic Vinegar

Whatsisname wrote: »

Don't think this has been posted yet but LVG did a very honest and in depth interview with the Telegraph, definitely worth reading.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11483566/Louis-van-Gaal-Manchester-United-is-my-last-job-in-football-and-I-will-go-out-at-the-top.html

Talks about him growing up, to the philosophy, to relationship with players and an insight into which staff does what. Very interesting.

That's a good read.

bangkok

MagicIRL wrote: »

Wigan got hammered in the Europa tonight. Delighted.

Coleman in the summer and how are ya doin' McCarthy?

we already have rafael and valencia having a decent season there now at right back.

mccarthy? no, we dont want to turn into everton!!

Adamcp898

MagicIRL wrote: »

Wigan got hammered in the Europa tonight. Delighted.

Coleman in the summer and how are ya doin' McCarthy?

We need a RB and Coleman wouldn't be the worst buy but it'd depend on the price and availability of others.

McCarthy? No thanks.

IamtheWalrus

RobertKK wrote: »

Pogba not going to Real Madrid according to his agent...

‘Real Madrid are a club that is used to buying players like you buy a facecloth – and then throws them away like a facecloth,’ he told L'Equipe
‘We don’t want to go to a club like that.
We want to go to a club that believes in Paul’s potential.’

Real aren't interested then.

KombuchaMshroom

MagicIRL wrote: »

Wigan got hammered in the Europa tonight. Delighted.

Coleman in the summer and how are ya doin' McCarthy?

Thankfully there isn't a fear that LVG would be interested in either of those players.
No where near good enough.

Winston Payne

Coleman is pushing on into his late twenties. This right now is as good as he'll ever be, and that's not good enough for Champions League level.

homerjay2005

Winston Payne wrote: »

Coleman is pushing on into his late twenties. This right now is as good as he'll ever be, and that's not good enough for Champions League level.

Can see us getting Dani Alves if he doesn't sign a new contract.

Whatsisname

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Can see us getting Dani Alves if he doesn't sign a new contract.

I see this too, although I feel like we'd just be selling Rafael to sign Rafael 2.0+6/7 years.

dahat

Adamcp898 wrote: »

We need a RB and Coleman wouldn't be the worst buy but it'd depend on the price and availability of others.

McCarthy? No thanks.

I'd imagine Clyne is at the top of the RB list. He is a free agent in Summer 16 and by all accounts not signing a new deal. He is a far better option than Coleman IMO.

Adamcp898

dahat wrote: »

I'd imagine Clyne is at the top of the RB list. He is a free agent in Summer 16 and by all accounts not signing a new deal. He is a far better option than Coleman IMO.

I'd have him as a better option too.

I guess I should qualify my previous post by saying that I don't rate Rafael all that highly and if you were to give the three of them 38 games in the same team; I think Coleman would have more good games than Valencia or Rafael. So like I said, he'd be an option given that I think he'd be an improvement over what we already have but not number 1 on the target list.

RB is an area we need to address this Summer as a matter of priority imo.