Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/3

thegreengoblin

J. Marston wrote: »

Hindsight is 20/20 and all but still, no harm having a laugh at this...

https://twitter.com/BusbyMUFC/status/579677688002154496

You want hindsight? I'll give you some hindsight...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/kenny-dalglish-liverpool-vs-man-5371271

:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

bucketybuck

Headshot wrote: »

Im very proud of the players today. Im especially delighted for LVG. The slack he has gotten is disgraceful.

The slack he got was deserved.

All season people have been slating the players, saying they aren't good enough and we need to spend hundreds of millions on replacements. But the quality was always there, and games like today and last week show that the quality is there, all that was needed was for the manager to pull his finger out and start using it.

Herrera and Mata in the side, Rooney up front, stop trying to squeeze Falcao and Van Persie into the side and ditch 352, none of that was rocket science yet it has taken until March for it to happen.

Unlike our earlier victory over Liverpool this one was fully deserved, but it certainly doesn't absolve Van Gaal of the mistakes he has made up to this point. Lets just hope he has learned a few lessons.

JaMarcusHustle

Mr Alan wrote: »

You're a fan. Not their parent.

Weird posting style.

Ahem...

Mr Alan wrote:

The fact we have actually have come so close is something to be incredibly proud of, not something to be ridiculed (if anyone is being in any way genuine). Coming so close makes it hurt like ****, but it's still something to be proud of.

You're a fan, Alan. Not their parent

Mr Alan wrote:

Everton's conduct recently & indeed over the years regarding Hillsborough & the families fight for justice has been nothing short of exceptional.

You lads should be extremely proud.

You're a fellow supporter Al. You're not their parent.

Mr Alan wrote:

imo & this was as a result of them having a stronger than us, probably the strongest squad ever assembled in the PL, imo we can be very proud of running them close & feel confident about the future

Still a fan there Al. Still not their parent.

Mr Alan wrote:

you look at our squad & you see nothing to be proud of?! you wonder why people with attitudes similar to yours are ridiculed?

Does that mean you see something to be proud of? Because if it does, you know that means.

You're not their parent, Alan. Not their parent.

Mr Alan wrote:

i am proud that liverpool fans are not following the same route other clubs have gone down.

Alan = fan. Not = parent. Say it with me.

Mr Alan wrote:

Yea but look at Bono, Colin Farrell, Glen Hansard, The Thrills, Ronan Keating etc all these people get stick constantly....despite actually being something this country can be proud of.

Unless Bono, Colin Farrell, Glen Hansard, The Thrills and Ronan Keating all spent a period of time developing in your womb, you have no right to be proud of them. Remember Al, you're a fan.

Not their parent.

Mr Alan wrote:

i've thought for quite a long time, that as a team we are too "nice/honest/hardworking", thats all well and good and something fans can be proud off, but now we need to add some "class/creativity" to that.

Al, cut out the pride. What are you, their parent!? No, you're not.

bucketybuck

bucketybuck wrote: »

The slack he got was deserved.

All season people have been slating the players, saying they aren't good enough and we need to spend hundreds of millions on replacements. But the quality was always there, and games like today and last week show that the quality is there, all that was needed was for the manager to pull his finger out and start using it.

Herrera and Mata in the side, Rooney up front, stop trying to squeeze Falcao and Van Persie into the side and ditch 352, none of that was rocket science yet it has taken until March for it to happen.

Unlike our earlier victory over Liverpool this one was fully deserved, but it certainly doesn't absolve Van Gaal of the mistakes he has made up to this point. Lets just hope he has learned a few lessons.

Well said

irishfeen

Lads Di Maria will have some job to shift Mata from the starting lineup...

Your Airbag

IamtheWalrus

TO PIMP A BUTTERFLY!!!

adox

irishfeen wrote: »

Lads Di Maria will have some job to shift Mata from the starting lineup...

He can play on the left too or in the middle.

Young came off injured I thinked so could be in in his place next game.

bucketybuck

irishfeen wrote: »

Lads Di Maria will have some job to shift Mata from the starting lineup...

I do look forward to Di Maria properly linking up with Herrera and Mata on the field, seeing actual flowing football instead of this pass it wide to Valencia crap we've put up with for too long.

Unearthly

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

quoting Mr Alan

brilliant

Your Airbag

Anyone else feel that after almost two seasons we have finally tunred a corner?

Thats two dominant preformance against good oposition in a row now. Yes there were periods Liverpool were on top but twice now we have dominated possesion with slick midfeild passing and good pressing of the opposition.

I think LVG now knows his best XI to create his footballing "philosophy" on the pitch.

It may be only two games but I have feeling its finally clicked and I'm looking forward to the tough run in now and the prospect of third or second place.

Big Props today to Mata of course but Fellaini was great too. He patrolled his defensive cover area like it was a NATO no fly zone and was a great outball option for our players when things got tight. He is a real asset to this team and offers a different dimension that other players can't. UTD quality through and through.

Polo_Mint

A Good summer training and hopefully not a lot of Pre season games back to back will get the team sorted

hufpc8w3adnk65

Your Airbag wrote: »

Fellaini was great too. He patrolled his defensive cover area like it was a NATO no fly zone and was a great outball option for our players when things got tight. He is a real asset to this team and offers a different dimension that other players can't. UTD quality through and through.

Ha ha after all the crap I read today that line made me spit coke all over my iPad

Fair play!!

irishfeen

On current for we should not fear both City and Chelsea.. Although one game at time!

Polo_Mint

bucketybuck wrote: »

I do look forward to Di Maria properly linking up with Herrera and Mata on the field, seeing actual flowing football instead of this pass it wide to Valencia crap we've put up with for too long.

The Most important thing with the City game is the risk of one of our players getting sent off. If the ref can keep the red in his pocket we could win

irishfeen

https://twitter.com/carras16/status/579694251019223040

shadowcomplex

Your Airbag wrote: »

Anyone else feel that after almost two seasons we have finally tunred a corner?

Thats two dominant preformance against good oposition in a row now. Yes there were periods Liverpool were on top but twice now we have dominated possesion with slick midfeild passing and good pressing of the opposition.

I think LVG now knows his best XI to create his footballing "philosophy" on the pitch.

It may be only two games but I have feeling its finally clicked and I'm looking forward to the tough run in now and the prospect of third or second place.

Big Props today to Mata of course but Fellaini was great too. He patrolled his defensive cover area like it was a NATO no fly zone and was a great outball option for our players when things got tight. He is a real asset to this team and offers a different dimension that other players can't. UTD quality through and through.

I definitely do, if we were to start the season now with this team and what LVG knows about the team now we would be a lot closer to Chelsea and title contenders


Fellaini has been great and anyone that thinks hes a stop gap or we are now a long ball team are deluded.
Fellaini brings balance to the team, he can go back and help out Herrera and Carrick when we are up against it and hes also awkward as **** for defenders to deal with, he was great again today, he brings our other flair players into play and him doing his job allows players like Mata to do theirs. He' now playing the position he played for Everton when he had that outstanding season, id be very confident of the trio of carrick,herrera and fellaini being in a title contending team next seasn, we need to buy a Right back and a centre half though

irishfeen

https://twitter.com/anderherrera/status/579687300323520512

irishfeen

https://twitter.com/d_degea/status/579683820171071488

hufpc8w3adnk65

Also his defensive side of things was spot on today he won lots of ball in our box

irishfeen

https://twitter.com/philjones4/status/579682517000810496

shadowcomplex

MrMac84 wrote: »

Ha ha after all the crap I read today that line made me spit coke all over my iPad

Fair play!!

Perhaps you've had too much coke and that's your problem

irishfeen

https://twitter.com/blinddaley/status/579682454207889408

MagicMarker

All the tweets, I can wait to see what the next PR tweet posted by the player's PR on behalf of the player will say.

Maximus Alexander

irishfeen wrote: »

https://twitter.com/d_degea/status/579683820171071488

Don't go Dave.

irishfeen

MagicMarker wrote: »

All the tweets, I can wait to see what the next PR tweet posted by the player's PR on behalf of the player will say.

Haha look lots of people aren't on Twitter .. People might want to see them.

adox

shadowcomplex wrote: »

I definitely do, if we were to start the season now with this team and what LVG knows about the team now we would be a lot closer to Chelsea and title contenders


Fellaini has been great and anyone that thinks hes a stop gap or we are now a long ball team are deluded.
Fellaini brings balance to the team, he can go back and help out Herrera and Carrick when we are up against it and hes also awkward as **** for defenders to deal with, he was great again today, he brings our other flair players into play and him doing his job allows players like Mata to do theirs. He' now playing the position he played for Everton when he had that outstanding season, id be very confident of the trio of carrick,herrera and fellaini being in a title contending team next seasn, we need to buy a Right back and a centre half though

But......less than two weeks ago:

shadowcomplex wrote: »

For all the money spent in the summer, this United team are very very average. We still need massive investment, apart from Rooney and De Gea who of our other players would get into the Chelsea, City Teams? We wont be title contenders next summer because the amount of players we need is too many for 1 window, Blind and Herrera are not good enough, Better than Cleverley and Anderson and a Finished Fletcher but Still not good enough for us, heres what needs to happen in the summer


1. Leave Falcao go back to Monaco
2. Tell RVP he's Rooneys back up and Wont play as many games next season or if he does not accept that sell him and buy a striker that will accept it
3.Start Juan Mata
4.Give Di Maria another chance
5.Buy a world class winger that scores goals, Bale or Griezmann
6.Buy an all round world class midfielder, Pogba
7.Buy a Right back, Danillo
8.Buy a No nonsense Centre back, Godin


and most of all


9.Sign up David de Gea for Life

Hmmm.

Rayne Wooney

Mata since he's joined

33 league games 13 goals 7 assists

Hazard this season

29 league games 11 goals 6 assists


When you add in the fact Mata hasn't been a consistent starter and had a chance to gain form through playing that is something else, Hazard is widely considered one of the best players in the world

Kirby

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Ahem...
You're a fan, Alan. Not their parent
You're a fellow supporter Al. You're not their parent.
Still a fan there Al. Still not their parent.
Does that mean you see something to be proud of? Because if it does, you know that means.
You're not their parent, Alan. Not their parent.
Alan = fan. Not = parent. Say it with me.

Unless Bono, Colin Farrell, Glen Hansard, The Thrills and Ronan Keating all spent a period of time developing in your womb, you have no right to be proud of them. Remember Al, you're a fan.

Not their parent.

Al, cut out the pride. What are you, their parent!? No, you're not.

irishfeen

https://twitter.com/fellainim/status/579706851689959426

Hope the momentum built up by these two great wins isn't interrupted by the international break!

Adamcp898

Great result today.

Was nervous coming into this period of fixtures and can't believe we've had our best two performances of the year in arguably the two biggest games we've had.

Nolars

Mata should start over Di Maria easily for the rest of the season. Keep the same team gonig aswell. good day.

irishfeen

Our next game v Villa could be even more important then City/Chelsea after .. Arsenal v Liverpool that weekend too, Arsenal win, we win then Pool are all but put to bed (8 points behind)

thelad95

I thought Fellaini was a bit clumsy today but he was instrumental in the first goal and bossed the penalty area for a lot of Liverpool set pieces. He's going to be a Manchester United player for a long time I feel.

Will I Amnt

Nolars wrote: »

Mata should start over Di Maria easily for the rest of the season. Keep the same team gonig aswell. good day.

Di Maria needs games, he's been ****e and still has great stats. Hard on Young but there's no point in letting a player of Di Maria's quality waste away on the bench after paying so much for him.
He needs to get right.

shadowcomplex

adox wrote: »

But......less than two weeks ago:


Hmmm.

Whats your point?

adox

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Whats your point?

You have done a complete u turn in under two weeks. Hard to take you seriously.

Conchy

Great to get the victory, just when we were starting to build a bit of momentum it's time for the international break

MagicIRL

Bit of luck Blind comes back from the break with two knees this time.

Nolars

Nolars wrote: »

Mata should start over Di Maria easily for the rest of the season. Keep the same team gonig aswell. good day.

Its more of a battle between young v di maria than mata v di maria tbh

Mata has solidified his position in the first 11 and if Lvg cannot spot this at this stage it would frustrate me

Carrick and herrera do a lot of the work mata doesn't and this is perfect for mata

Gives him time to play into space and opens up opportunities for attack and none of this sideways passing ****e

shadowcomplex

adox wrote: »

You have done a complete u turn in under two weeks. Hard to take you seriously.

NO I Have not read those 2 posts again and show me how I am contradicting myself?


You seem to have a bit of an obsession with me at the moment , but regarding the above with what I said 2 weeks ago and my post today there isn't the massive contradiction your trying to make it look like , again heres what I said



1. Leave Falcao go back to Monaco STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION FALCAO WASNT PLAYING TODAY

2. Tell RVP he's Rooneys back up and Wont play as many games next season or if he does not accept that sell him and buy a striker that will accept it STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION RVP WASNT PLAYING TODAY AND DOESNT DESERVE TO START EVEN THOUGH ROONEY HAD AN OFF GAME

3.Start Juan Mata STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION MATA WAS PLAYING TODAY WAS WAS CLASS

4.Give Di Maria another chance STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION HES OFF FORM BUT SAID I AM WILLING TO GIVE HIM A CHANCE

5.Buy a world class winger that scores goals, Bale or Griezmann

6.Buy an all round world class midfielder, Pogba

7.Buy a Right back, Danillo STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION I SAID 2 WEEKS AGO WE NEED A RIGHT BACK , I SAID TODAY WE NEED A RIGHT BACK

8.Buy a No nonsense Centre back, Godin STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION I SAID 2 WEEKS AGO WE NEED A CENTRE BACK , I SAID TODAY WE NEED A CENTRE BACK


9.sign up David de Gea for Life STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION DIDNT SAY ANYTHING 2 WEEKS AGO OR TODAY


The only small contradiction are in points 5 and 6 when I said Id like pogba and either bale or griezmann and what fans wouldn't want those players , but theres no massive contradiction in what I said today compared to 2 weeks ago and you must also remember 2 weeks ago came before our 2 best performances of the season, so please have a good read of posts before reposting old posts of mine or you'll make yourself look silly

adox

shadowcomplex wrote: »

NO I Have not read those 2 posts again and show me how I am contradicting myself?


You seem to have a bit of an obsession with me at the moment , but regarding the above with what I said 2 weeks ago and my post today there isn't the massive contradiction your trying to make it look like , again heres what I said



1. Leave Falcao go back to Monaco STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION FALCAO WASNT PLAYING TODAY

2. Tell RVP he's Rooneys back up and Wont play as many games next season or if he does not accept that sell him and buy a striker that will accept it STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION RVP WASNT PLAYING TODAY AND DOESNT DESERVE TO START EVEN THOUGH ROONEY HAD AN OFF GAME

3.Start Juan Mata STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION MATA WAS PLAYING TODAY WAS WAS CLASS

4.Give Di Maria another chance STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION HES OFF FORM BUT SAID I AM WILLING TO GIVE HIM A CHANCE

5.Buy a world class winger that scores goals, Bale or Griezmann

6.Buy an all round world class midfielder, Pogba

7.Buy a Right back, Danillo STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION I SAID 2 WEEKS AGO WE NEED A RIGHT BACK , I SAID TODAY WE NEED A RIGHT BACK

8.Buy a No nonsense Centre back, Godin STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION I SAID 2 WEEKS AGO WE NEED A CENTRE BACK , I SAID TODAY WE NEED A CENTRE BACK


9.sign up David de Gea for Life STILL AGREE NO CONTRADICTION DIDNT SAY ANYTHING 2 WEEKS AGO OR TODAY


The only small contradiction are in points 5 and 6 when I said Id like pogba and either bale or griezmann and what fans wouldn't want those players , but theres no massive contradiction in what I said today compared to 2 weeks ago and you must also remember 2 weeks ago came before our 2 best performances of the season, so please have a good read of posts before reposting old posts of mine or you'll make yourself look silly

You conveniently left out the two most relevant contradictory points in your posts.

As I said, hard to take you seriously.

jayo26

Lads caragher is a total plonker he is unreal boring takes five minutes to make a point and then it turns into nothing, henry falling asleep beside him.

Will I Amnt

I remember there was a bit of talk during the January transfer window about Mata being a Liverpool target. Thinking back at the comments about how he wouldn't be good enough for them, past his peak, luxury player etc... Brings a massive smile to my face. I f*cking love him.

shadowcomplex

adox wrote: »

You conveniently left out the two most relevant contradictory points in your posts.

As I said, hard to take you seriously.

No I haven't I made my point about 5 and 6 in the paragraph at the end and that's only 2, 7 of the 9 points that I made 2 weeks ago are still valid and don't contradict anything I said today


Of course you probably realise there isn't the massive contradiction and are just trying to take the moral high ground now


I have to ask you if you don't want to take me seriously why don't just ignore and don't respond to my posts

Will I Amnt

See van Gaal butting into the Neville analysis? :pac:
Still hanging around Anfield hours after the match, milking it

Will I Amnt

Will I Amnt wrote: »

I remember there was a bit of talk during the January transfer window about Mata being a Liverpool target. Thinking back at the comments about how he wouldn't be good enough for them, past his peak, luxury player etc... Brings a massive smile to my face. I f*cking love him.

I have been critical of him but only for defensive reasons. Carrick and herrara compliment him perfectly

He's truely sublime technically and an awesome attack minded player this squad had been without for ages

We need to bring in a replacement for Carrick in the next two years IMO to continue this

TheDoc

What a result. Another dominating first half performance.

Slacked of a bit in the second half, maybe some complacency, felt we were giving them the initiative.

The Gerrard cameo was absolutely laughable, was proper roaring when he got red. (Btw fair play to Mata, Gerrards first tackle was tyical him, Mata got straight back up) Skyrtel(or whatever you call that horrible cretin) should get a retro 3 match ban

Felt Spurs and Liverpool were the real tricky ties here, felt we have a very good chance against Chelsea, City and Arsenal. Well **** me, what a way for the team to respond. Not only 6 points, but impressive performances to boot.

Absolutely chuffed to be honest. A lot of tears for Gerrard going around on twitter, **** him, sick of the "narrative" following him around all season, absolutely delighted.

jayo26

Will I Amnt wrote: »

I remember there was a bit of talk during the January transfer window about Mata being a Liverpool target. Thinking back at the comments about how he wouldn't be good enough for them, past his peak, luxury player etc... Brings a massive smile to my face. I f*cking love him.

I got more of a smile from the hoofball comments then there best chances apart from the goal come from a long cross field pass to sturridge and a few long balls over top to try get sterling in.