Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/3

adox

Dont remember Costa stamping on De Gea.

niallo27

adox wrote: »

Dont remember Costa stamping on De Gea.

Good one.

GavRedKing

Costa got done for the stamp on Can which was about as intentional as Skrtels. Costa tried to jump out of the way off Skrtel and stood on him.

Skrtel however ran straight into De Gea, no attempt to vault him until he actullay stood on him, if the FA have any consistency it should be a ban.

Johner

niallo27 wrote: »

Costa got away with doing the same thing as Skrtel so there is no way they can give him a 3 game ban and keep any credibility although that hasn't bothered them in the past.

Costa didn't get away with the Can one though. The Costa one on Skrtel wasn't a stamp, Skrtel's leg was coming up while Costa was landing.

Lucas Hood

Skrtel has been charged by the fa.

MagicIRL

I was adamant last Summer that Strootman would be a United player, but having read (a while back) that he has had more knee trouble I'm doubtful again. Depay is a sure thing imo, especially given his relationship with LvG already. He's only 21 as well, perfect time to get him in.

Johner

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Skrtel has been charged by the fa.

There ya go. :P

hufpc8w3adnk65

GavRedKing wrote: »

Costa got done for the stamp on Can which was about as intentional as Skrtels. Costa tried to jump out of the way off Skrtel and stood on him.

Skrtel however ran straight into De Gea, no attempt to vault him until he actullay stood on him, if the FA have any consistency it should be a ban.

Problem been consistency there Gav

hufpc8w3adnk65

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Skrtel has been charged by the fa.

Source?

Lucas Hood

MrMac84 wrote: »

Source?

Loads of journos breaking it on twitter now.

https://twitter.com/OliverKayTimes/status/580050175147773952

niallo27

GavRedKing wrote: »

Costa got done for the stamp on Can which was about as intentional as Skrtels. Costa tried to jump out of the way off Skrtel and stood on him.

Skrtel however ran straight into De Gea, no attempt to vault him until he actullay stood on him, if the FA have any consistency it should be a ban.

He tried to jump out of the way and somehow landed on his leg. Costa is mad in the head. He knew what he was doing.

rob316

rob316 wrote: »

Its not clear cut enough like Costa and Gerrard. I actually think its accidental and if it isn't there isn't enough evidence to charge him.

I despise stamping by the way of any kind but this isn't clear cut enough for me.

Skrtel's was worse IMO. Gerrard was fired-up and trying to impose himself on the game and put some fear into the United players who dominated in the first half. It was disgraceful and OTT no doubt, but in Gerrard's mind somehow he was trying to bring his team back into the game at 0-1 with 45 minutes to go.

Skrtel's was petty and selfish. He knew the game was over once DDG collected that over-hit pass and just wanted to get one more dig in at a United player. Those who say that his natural momentum took him into DDG think that they're doing Skrtel a favour but are actually insulting the man's ability as a healthy human being with normal reflexes, never mind a professional footballer. That jump he eventually makes over DDG (where his right foot planted in DDG's calf is launching his bodyweight) could very easily have been made 2-3 paces earlier.

For me it is clear-cut, and I can honestly say that I would be of the same opinion if you replaced DDG and Skrtel for Mignolet and Smalling in the very same incident and circumstances.

Edit: I see Skrtel's been charged, 100% the right decision.

GavRedKing

niallo27 wrote: »

He tried to jump out of the way and somehow landed on his leg. Costa is mad in the head. He knew what he was doing.

Theres no one doubting that part but he didnt mean to land on Skrtel, both players in unnatural positions happened to come together, the Can one was more malicious and even that was iffy yet he still got charged by the FA.

Seemingly, so has Skrtel which for consistency is right IMO.

Samoa Joe

MrMac84 wrote: »

Source?

https://twitter.com/ManUtdMEN/status/580054202069684226

Nalz

niallo27 wrote: »

It wasn't a stamp in the same way as Gerrard or Costa stamped. Costa got off for the same thing so we will have to wait and see what the FA say.

Seriously dude - that's bollox

MythicalMadMan

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MythicalMadMan

keane2097 wrote: »

Anyone else find the criticism of Di Maria yesterday laughable? On for about half an hour, assists a goal, assists a penalty win and about a foot away from putting another goal on a plate for Rooney.

I think Young has been playing well, but the above is more in end product in 30/35 minutes than Young has managed in a whole season.

He was our 2nd worst players on the pitch yesterday, who's first contribution was to catch the ball while it was in play which cant have done his confidence any good.

The vision for his assist was great but it wasnt executed well and if Mata hadnt turned it into magic it would just have been another misplaced pass. The goal looked great mind.

Pass to Rooney was easy as he was under no pressure he could also have picked out Mata and wrapped up the game at 3-0

His passing all over the pitch was sloppy and he did put us under pressure a few times with it, you dont mind it happening in thier half for crosses and throughballs but not for simple passes and not in our own area.

I feel like I'm being overly harsh but I just felt the game was perfect for him, a goal then 2 up versus 10 men and him being lighting quick, thought it was the match for him to show what he can do but alas it didnt work out.

He is having a bad season and I still am very confident he will come good but to call the critisism of him laughable well it really isnt.

Also young played most of the game versus 11 men, Di Maria versus 10 we cant know what he would have created in them circumstances and it is unfair to compare especially as Liverpool where chasing the game and Di Maria got a lot of space.

niallo27

Trilla wrote: »

Seriously dude - that's bollox

Why though I believe both players knew exactly what they were doing.

Nalz

niallo27 wrote: »

Why though I believe both players knew exactly what they were doing.

Why? you said it wasn't a stamp like Gerrard? A stamp is a stamp. End of




WTF

Korat

Di Maria and Rooney both very poor.

Fellaini and Young excellent.

Goes to show how little internet fandom relates to the pitch.

niallo27

Trilla wrote: »

Why? you said it wasn't a stamp like Gerrard? A stamp is a stamp. End of




WTF

I think they are different. I think what Gerrard done was more malicious and dangerous than what Skrtel did.

Nalz

niallo27 wrote: »

I think they are different. I think what Gerrard done was more malicious and dangerous than what Skrtel did.

so? I'm sure Hitler was more malicious than Bin Laden, actually was he? Wait.......hmmmm

Both stamps. Both very very wrong. One worse than the other, but both disgraceful

niallo27

Trilla wrote: »

so? I'm sure Hitler was more malicious than Bin Laden, actually was he? Wait.......hmmmm

Both stamps. Both very very wrong. One worse than the other, but both disgraceful

Bin Laden wasnt that bad. I think he was ****ed over and blamed for everything a bit like Moyes last year.

Professional Griefer

Wow

niallo27

Professional Griefer wrote: »

Wow

Ya moyes was worse than Bin Laden is what we can take from all this

Professional Griefer

niallo27 wrote: »

Ya moyes was worse than Bin Laden is what we can take from all this

Do you ever think before pressing the Submit Reply button? The loss yesterday seems to have hit you hard. Its ok Niall, life goes on.

Polo_Mint

Liverpool defender Martin Skrtel to be charged with violent conduct for 'stamp' on David De Gea

The incident occurred at the end of Sunday's clash with Manchester United as the Slovakian defender chased down a loose ball


Martin Skrtel is set to be charged by the FA for his alleged stamp on David De Gea.

The Liverpool defender appeared to leave his foot in on the Manchester United goalkeeper as he chased down a loose ball in stoppage time of Sunday's 2-1 defeat.

De Gea reacted angrily to the challenge and squared up to Skrtel, before the pair were separated.

The FA confirmed on Monday that they were looking into the incident and are now set to charge Skrtel with violent conduct.


After the defeat to United, Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers insisted there was no intent from Skrtel as he made the challenge.

Rodgers said: "I have seen the Martin Skrtel incident. The ball was played through but it probably looks worse in slow motion.

"It looks like he is trying to get a nick on the ball, to get a toe on the ball but the ball went into the goalkeepers hand.

"Martin is not that type of player, he was just a fraction out."

Earlier in Sunday's game, Steven Gerrard was sent off by referee Martin Atkinson, just 48 seconds after entering the field.

The Liverpool skipper was brought on at half-time and appeared to stamp on Ander Herrera after the Spaniard had jumped into a challenge.

Gerrard, who will join LA Galaxy at the end of the season, is also set for a three-game ban.

Adamocovic

I thought this was a thread about United? Had to check as I thought I was in some war history thread :pac:

Back to the good stuff, still buzzing from the win at the weekend and made getting up for work that little bit easier

Tough games coming up but were in tremendous form. We have the lead on Pool now and the main thing is to keep pushing and not make all the work at the weekend pointless. All I want is champions league football next season and we've given ourselves such a good chance of getting it by proving people wrong with two great wins with Spurs and Pool. Hopefully we add two more with City and Chelsea :P

TheDoc

To be honest wrote some sarcy and smartarse posts that I've re-written and re-written the last 15 minutes.

But I think after all the **** we got from LFC last year, and even this year, the result yesterday, and the manner of it, doing the double over them home and away, Gerrard being sent off, and now the additional ban, the below perfectly sums up my feelings right now

Lord TSC

Trilla wrote: »

so? I'm sure Hitler was more malicious than Bin Laden, actually was he? Wait.......hmmmm

Both stamps. Both very very wrong. One worse than the other, but both disgraceful

niallo27 wrote: »

Bin Laden wasnt that bad. I think he was ****ed over and blamed for everything a bit like Moyes last year.

I think maybe the conversation is heading down a very weird path which could lead to problems. Discuss the stamp, it's a big incident, and the debate has been civil enough. But let's cut out the comparisons between Moyes, Bin Laden and Hitler....

spiralism

Trilla wrote: »

so? I'm sure Hitler was more malicious than Bin Laden, actually was he? Wait.......hmmmm

Both stamps. Both very very wrong. One worse than the other, but both disgraceful

Thread has been Godwinned. Hooray!

Danye

Forget looking over our shoulder worrying about Liverpool. We should be looking ahead now, aiming to finish 2nd as close to Chelsea as possible. (Is it wrong that I'm still hoping for a Chelsea collapse and that we pip them for the league? )

I'm not overly concerned with Liverpool now. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them battle it out with Spurs and the chasing pack for 5th spot.

Korat

Kürzlich, wunderbar alles sein.

Showing and going is something that needs to return to the Utd style of play.

Short and fast has been missing for a while now.

Headshot

And I thought things couldnt get better. Go wan the FA

Bloody delighted, deserves every bit of it

Vic Vinegar

This is class!

LostBoy101

This guy has Herrera importance to the team spot on.

Trond

yabadabado

The look on Herrera's face .:D

Korat

Bueno!

Mantis Toboggan

Trond wrote: »

What a day

dor843088

I dont think di maria even celebrated the goal he assisted. Watched the footage a few times and cant see him celebrating with the team anywhere. Adds a little weight to all the rumours he isnt happy ?

The_Kew_Tour

Love the Liverpool fans in the background pointing at the United fans who managed to get into the home section celebrating the goal.

There has always been pocket of United fans in those bottom seats behind the goal for as long as I remember. Even going back 21 years to the famous 3-3 in January 1994. Its was always that same place with handful of fans. However they get the tickets I don't know but brave men whoever they are.

Gerrard slips to cost Liverpool the title and then does not last a minute in his last(although he might do Henry) game against United. What a time to be alive

secman

Still smiling... I'm very happy as a MATA of fact....very happy, yesterday was a beautiful day.

Rayne Wooney

A stamp is a sign of friendship in Slovakia

billyhead

Great win yesterday. Just wondering if you think Mata will still be sold in the summer. He has been strongly linked with Valencia and Athletico

The_Kew_Tour

I reckon Mata, De Gea, Di Maria, Falcao might even add Hererra and RVP will be linked with every club under the Sun this summer no matter what.

Johner

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I reckon Mata, De Gea, Di Maria, Falcao might even add Hererra and RVP will be linked with every club under the Sun this summer no matter what.

There's not much of a chance Falcao will sign permanently though is there?

Strumms

I'd be gobsmacked if we took up the option to take Falcao on a permanent deal unless he goes into goal spasm mode for the last handful of games which is unlikely considering we have also probably found our best formation, system and first 11.

De Gea I really hope ends up staying as we all do, a real United player in every sence.

I'd like to see Mata stick around, he has only been hear just over a year and looks to be settling right in.

Hererra will defo be here

Di Maria I'm unsure of, hasn't proved his worth and is by all accounts unsettled, although like any foreign player in a new league I think he could really shine if we stick with him.

RVP could be on the way. Love a big balls move for Lewandowski as a replacment.

Gonna be an interesting summer.

The_Kew_Tour

Johner wrote: »

There's not much of a chance Falcao will sign permanently though is there?

Yes, but even if we do somehow keep him I can see him been linked right up till end

yabadabado

Really interesting summer ahead.
A CB,RB and a midfielder are essential imo.
Depay looks a likely target but have no idea who United might want to buy for the other positions.Not too many top class CB's around at the moment.