Early fertiliser

Bullocks

frazzledhome wrote: »

That is the case in early Feb agreed but we're heading for Paddys day when second round should be going out

Its only a dream down here this year to do anything early , I've never seen the place so waterlogged .
Is the weather cold where you are frazzled and do you wait for a certain temp before spreading early or lash it out early and let a few growthy days come after ?

frazzledhome

Bullocks wrote: »

Its only a dream down here this year to do anything early , I've never seen the place so waterlogged .
Is the weather cold where you are frazzled and do you wait for a certain temp before spreading early or lash it out early and let a few growthy days come after ?

Won't spread till soil is at 6 and rising. I've only half the out farm spread because of soil conditions but won't be messing with a half bag when I go. It'll be a full bag nothing less

leg wax

its funny that farmers give out about farming with dates when it comes to slurry, but when it comes to bagged stuff that costs money its all down to dates and forget about the weather and the actual return ,sure it wont grow anything in the bag but this year is one that surly will go down as one that weather dictates and not a number on a calendar .

Muckit

Legwax you're save enough for a while from the men in the whites coats!! A few others haven't heard Ger Fleming saying its been the wettest winter.... since records began!!

Bullocks

leg wax wrote: »

its funny that farmers give out about farming with dates when it comes to slurry, but when it comes to bagged stuff that costs money its all down to dates and forget about the weather and the actual return ,sure it wont grow anything in the bag but this year is one that surly will go down as one that weather dictates and not a number on a calendar .

You're right there legs . I probably shouldn't even say it but if we get another year like this we should be thinking of extra slurry storage especially in my area anyhow .
I actually saw a lad going through long rushes with the tank just left open and it pouring out a couple of weeks ago . Not doing him or the ground any good and just wasting fertiliser really

st1979

Yea this winter on this farm there has not been a chance to spread even with the umbilical since sometime back in November. So even with the closed period it made no difference really as tank was emptied in august. This year I got extra storage thankfully but its full now

jack o shea

Walked the land yesterday never seen it as wet in March, depressing stuff,nothing grazed,no fert spread and tanks full of slurry.

CloughCasey1

We're in the lucky position of having exceptionally dry land. Was driving in one field yesterday and just about tracking ground. Question is for free draining light stoney/sandy soils is urea any good?

st1979

CloughCasey1 wrote:

We're in the lucky position of having exceptionally dry land. Was driving in one field yesterday and just about tracking ground. Question is for free draining light stoney/sandy soils is urea any good?

Well the new Zealanders have some very stoney free draining soil and live on urea

CloughCasey1

st1979 wrote: »

Well the new Zealanders have some very stoney free draining soil and live on urea

Bag an acre it is so! :-)

patsy_mccabe

Ye all must have very dry land to be spreading this early. I don't think I've ever spread in March.

farmerjj

I,v a few drier fields done with a half bag to the acre of urea, won't put any more out till temperatures rise, its getting colder by the week.

Capercaillie

If it's cold is it a complete waste of time spreading fertiliser on dry land?

frazzledhome

Capercaillie wrote: »

If it's cold is it a complete waste of time spreading fertiliser on dry land?

Soils never dropped below 6c, here anyway

Milked out

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Ye all must have very dry land to be spreading this early. I don't think I've ever spread in March.

Would normally get out on dry ground In Feb and the wetter half of farm bar one field In March but that would be doing a bit of tracking in march in the wetter half of farm. Wouldn't have grass otherwise

Bullocks

Capercaillie wrote: »

If it's cold is it a complete waste of time spreading fertiliser on dry land?

Probably but this winter has been very mild so I reckon if the ground wasn't waterlogged it would be growthy enough to work

freedominacup

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

We're in the lucky position of having exceptionally dry land. Was driving in one field yesterday and just about tracking ground. Question is for free draining light stoney/sandy soils is urea any good?

We rarely use anything else and we're never more than a forthright away from drought after the middle of May.

Never wrestle with pigs

Normally blanket spread pasture sward (27. 2.5. 5)here every year first week of April. Most ground index 2/3 for P&K. Thinking two 18.6.12 + s this year. Never spread S here. Sucklers only.

Not well up on fert but would the 18.6.12+S be a good grazing fert? Going to buy in silage this year as it's just as cheep and the bonus of bringing in P&K.

pedigree 6

Often have spread urea end of January.
Spread a bag of 40N urea + 6s Thursday last week and you can already see the difference in ground that got it. Especially the grazed paddocks.
The frost is not harming the grass as much that got urea.

johndeere3350

Talk about a waste of time and money spreading fertiliser at the moment.
Apart from the fact that there's snow and frost at night it makes a flood every day.
If its not growing then your not going to get it to grow by trowing nitrogen at it.
Whats the hurry I'd love to know sure the animals would tare places apart at the moment

frazzledhome

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Often have spread urea end of January.
Spread a bag of 40N urea + 6s Thursday last week and you can already see the difference in ground that got it. Especially the grazed paddocks.
The frost is not harming the grass as much that got urea.

What have we had 3-4 nights frost? Grass bombing that got Fert. Grazed ground really doing well

frazzledhome

johndeere3350 wrote: »

Talk about a waste of time and money spreading fertiliser at the moment.
Apart from the fact that there's snow and frost at night it makes a flood every day.
If its not growing then your not going to get it to grow by trowing nitrogen at it.
Whats the hurry I'd love to know sure the animals would tare places apart at the moment

Depends on you land. All spread here and you can see some difference. Couple of nights air frost makes no difference. Plenty of ground grazed here with minimal damage and the grass on this ground is walking. Cows in since Monday, hope to get out again in the next few days

Miname

johndeere3350 wrote: »

Talk about a waste of time and money spreading fertiliser at the moment.
Apart from the fact that there's snow and frost at night it makes a flood every day.
If its not growing then your not going to get it to grow by trowing nitrogen at it.
Whats the hurry I'd love to know sure the animals would tare places apart at the moment

I used to say the same up until a few years back. Read it here a multiple of times and said bull sh1t. Tried it one year and never looked back, there's lads sitting on high stools telling you the same old jargon yet have never tried it. Why is it that some farmers in the same areas have better grass and cattle out. I was laughing at a lad a month ago spreading fertiliser. I'm thick with envy every time I drive by looking at the fields of grass he has at the moment.

ganmo

Have about a half ton of fert left over from last year and as solo as I can travel the ground without causing damage

There's a good cover on that bit of ground and grass isn't really wanted for another 2/3 weeks

kevthegaff

Gonna take the plunge this year and try some urea on safer ground. Can't travel some fields, too dangerous!! Is it OK on grazed ground?

patsy_mccabe

Does anyone have a special tractor for spreading fertiliser, say one with extra big wheels?
Also what distance do ye spread apart. I've an old Vicon and spread at 6M . It works for me but seems very low from what I gather.

darragh_haven

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Does anyone have a special tractor for spreading fertiliser, say one with extra big wheels?
Also what distance do ye spread apart. I've an old Vicon and spread at 6M . It works for me but seems very low from what I gather.

Don't have a special tractor for spreading Fert. But have a 12m spread width ranch here. Lots of lads are upping to around the 18m spread width and using GPS.

Milked out

kevthegaff wrote: »

Gonna take the plunge this year and try some urea on safer ground. Can't travel some fields, too dangerous!! Is it OK on grazed ground?

You can spread urea anytime on any ground the only thing to avoid is if you are after spreading lime that's all

CloughCasey1

freedominacup wrote: »

We rarely use anything else and we're never more than a forthright away from drought after the middle of May.

Same as here. Damp mild summer is what suits here. Bar two wks for silage and hay!

CloughCasey1

I'd say the urea I spread on Saturday is half way to the Corrib by now. Patchy rain and drizzle my hole!!

frazzledhome

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

I'd say the urea I spread on Saturday is half way to the Corrib by now. Patchy rain and drizzle my hole!!

How long after spreading till it horsed rain?

frazzledhome

freedominacup wrote: »

We rarely use anything else and we're never more than a forthright away from drought after the middle of May.

What do you use for P&k?

Cow Porter

what are opinions on raising p and k. go all out before may or tip away with pasture sward up to july time?

good few index 1 here for p and 2 for k..

MickeyShtyles

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Does anyone have a special tractor for spreading fertiliser, say one with extra big wheels?
Also what distance do ye spread apart. I've an old Vicon and spread at 6M . It works for me but seems very low from what I gather.

2wd Renault here, gotta stick to tramlines.

Tomjim

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

2wd Renault here, gotta stick to tramlines.

Any benefit spreading fertilizer on old pasture ie land which has never been reseeded now or would it be better to wait till April

CloughCasey1

frazzledhome wrote: »

How long after spreading till it horsed rain?

20hrs

MickeyShtyles

Tomjim wrote: »

Any benefit spreading fertilizer on old pasture ie land which has never been reseeded now or would it be better to wait till April

Be better to reseed it altogether.
At this rate though it'll take another two weeks atleast till ground is workable. Spuds won't be in fir three weeks.!