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Another Company Discriminates Against Gays

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    #1352
    bjork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    gozunda wrote: »
    They are - where?

    But yes civil unions were set up for same sex unions

    I can marry my friend > I don't have to be homosexual.


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    #1353
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    bjork wrote: »
    I can marry my friend > I don't have to be homosexual.

    Why would you do that?


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    #1354
    bjork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    gozunda wrote: »
    Why would you do that?

    Tax purposes


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    #1355
    JRant
    Registered Users Posts: 12,962 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    gozunda wrote: »
    Why would you do that?

    Why would you care what 2 consenting adults get up to?

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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    #1356
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Having never seen one up close I'd be only guessing but ......... pink paper with glittery lettering???
    Ask a silly question and you will receive a silly answer :rolleyes:

    And yet you claim that they dont offer this service. From what I can tell for wedding invites you get a template and put in the names, address and location. How would they be unable to provide the service of typing in their names?

    Does the computer break down if they attempt to enter 2 names which could be for a male/female?


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    #1357
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    And yet you claim that they dont offer this service. From what I can tell for wedding invites you get a template and put in the names, address and location. How would they be unable to provide the service of typing in their names?

    Does the computer break down if they attempt to enter 2 names which could be for a male/female?

    Did they say that was the issue?

    What is it about avoiding the issue on this topic?


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    #1358
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    JRant wrote: »
    Why would you care what 2 consenting adults get up to?


    Well in Bjorks case 'consenting for tax' - but whatever.


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    #1359
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    reprise wrote: »
    Did they say that was the issue?

    What is it about avoiding the issue on this topic?

    Because one side has formed the "Discrimination" angle as gospel. Without it even getting near a solicitor/lawyer courts or a judge. One side has put someone on a pedestal and their rights trump someone else's automatically. One side thinks one groups right's take precedent over someone else's.


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    #1360
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    reprise wrote: »
    So why were they looking for wedding invitations?

    If they were looking for 'wedding invitations' maybe they were just looking to be treated like everyone else.


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    #1361
    galljga1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1


    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    And yet you claim that they dont offer this service. From what I can tell for wedding invites you get a template and put in the names, address and location. How would they be unable to provide the service of typing in their names?

    Does the computer break down if they attempt to enter 2 names which could be for a male/female?

    There is a built in gayometer. When it gets a dodgy reading 'computer says no' flashes up on the screen. Some people who thought they were straight were actually shocked and needed to do some deep thinking. It's well known around Drogheda.


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    #1362
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    gozunda wrote: »
    If they were looking for 'wedding invitations' maybe they were just looking to be treated like everyone else.

    And like everyone else they were told that service is not supplied, It's not rocket science.


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    #1363
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Ashruikan2553 said:
    Ashruikan2553 wrote:
    And yet you claim that they dont offer this service. From what I can tell for wedding invites you get a template and put in the names, address and location. How would they be unable to provide the service of typing in their names?

    Does the computer break down if they attempt to enter 2 names which could be for a male/female?

    reprise wrote: »
    Did they say that was the issue?

    What is it about avoiding the issue on this topic?

    The poster is not avoiding the 'issue' - in the reply it is clear that the poster is asking how is it that the printer could not provide a service provided to other prospective couples. Seems like a fair point imo.


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    #1364
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    gozunda wrote: »
    If they were looking for 'wedding invitations' maybe they were just looking to be treated like everyone else.

    But you stated they were not looking for wedding invitations and that there are no gay weddings in Ireland.

    What treatment should they expect?


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    #1365
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    And like everyone else they were told that service is not supplied, It's not rocket science.

    So the printer refused to print invitations to 'everyone else' ? He is not a very good businessman is he? It's certainly not good businness practice


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    #1366
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    gozunda wrote: »
    The poster is not avoiding the 'issue' - in the reply it is clear that the poster is asking how is it that the printer could not provide a service provided to other prospective couples. Seems like a fair point imo.

    Does he normally supply wedding invitations to people not getting married?


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    #1367
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    reprise wrote: »
    But you stated they were not looking for wedding invitations and that there are no gay weddings in Ireland.

    What treatment should they expect?


    So the customer was looking for no service or goods at all? Is that your argument now?


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    #1368
    bjork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    People on here obviously don't rate graphic designers if they think it's just a matter of changing the words


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    #1369
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    reprise wrote: »
    But you stated they were not looking for wedding invitations and that there are no gay weddings in Ireland.

    What treatment should they expect?

    You did read the 'if' part of the sentence :rolleyes:

    So the customer was looking for no service or goods at all? Is that your argument now?


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    #1370
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    gozunda wrote: »
    So the customer was looking for no service or goods at all? Is that your argument now?

    I'll highlight the cryptic bit:
    Reprise wrote:
    But you stated they were not looking for wedding invitations and that there are no gay weddings in Ireland.


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    #1371
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    bjork wrote: »
    People on here obviously don't rate graphic designers if they think it's just a matter of changing the words

    Why - was there some salacious images involved. That's News to me


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    #1372
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    gozunda wrote: »
    Now I believe that's referered to as stereotyping. Are you stereotyping gay people?

    Are you guilty of stereotyping Christians on this thread?


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    #1373
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Are you guilty of stereotyping Christians on this thread?

    You said
    MadDog76 wrote:
    Having never seen one up close I'd be only guessing but ......... pink paper with glittery lettering???

    Where?

    Do Christians like pink and glitter too in your opinion?


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    #1374
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    galljga1 wrote: »
    There is a built in gayometer. When it gets a dodgy reading 'computer says no' flashes up on the screen. Some people who thought they were straight were actually shocked and needed to do some deep thinking. It's well known around Drogheda.
    gozunda wrote: »
    The poster is not avoiding the 'issue' - in the reply it is clear that the poster is asking how is it that the printer could not provide a service provided to other prospective couples. Seems like a fair point imo.

    It just seems strange, when looking online all I see is
    "X and Y invite you to their wedding at <This place> followed by reception at <another place> on <date>. Please RSVP to <address, number, email>"

    The only details that cause a problem are X and Y. You could argue that these are wedding invites, not civil partnership but when looking for civil partnership invites it says they can just change "wedding" to "civil partnership" and even then I doubt if I walked in and asked for them to print off a few invites will they be checking Im actually getting married? What happens if John and Charlie are getting married? Does charlie need to turn up and explain that she is in fact a she?

    Of course, according to some people questioning the logic that is the base of their argument is going off topic.


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    #1375
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    gozunda wrote: »
    But there are no 'gay' weddings in ireland. That's what's the referendum is about. The couple were having a civil union. Capice.

    But it would appear that the couple were asking for gay wedding invitations to be printed which not only went against the printer's Religious Beliefs but was also asking the business to support a potentially illegal act ........


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    #1376
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    gozunda wrote: »
    Why - was there some salacious images involved. That's News to me

    Is there any chance you would stop misrepresenting posters?

    Bjork said absolutely nothing to justify that comment. Stop projecting.


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    #1377
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    gozunda wrote: »
    They are - where?

    But yes civil partnerships were set up for same sex unions



    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/birth_family_relationships/civil_partnerships/

    Jonathan Brennan (one half of the gay couple in question) has referred to them as "my wedding invitations" ..............


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    #1378
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    gozunda wrote: »
    If they were looking for 'wedding invitations' maybe they were just looking to be treated like everyone else.

    But a gay wedding isn't like "everybody" else's is it .......... it's illegal.


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    #1379
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    reprise wrote: »
    Is there any chance you would stop misrepresenting posters?

    Bjork said absolutely nothing to justify that comment. Stop projecting.


    Asking a question is allowed ASFAIK

    Bjorks said:
    Bjork wrote:
    People on here obviously don't rate graphic designers if they think it's just a matter of changing the words

    There appears to be an opinion that the invite could not be provided because it was somehow distasteful - I was inquiring how this could be so.


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    #1380
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    gozunda wrote: »
    You said



    Where?

    Do Christians like pink and glitter too in your opinion?

    "Having never seen one up close I'd be only guessing but ......... pink paper with glittery lettering???
    Ask a silly question and you will receive a silly answer :rolleyes:"

    If you're going to quote me please do so in full ............ even when it doesn't suit you :)


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    #1381
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    But a gay wedding isn't like "everybody" else's is it .......... it's illegal.


    The invitation is exactly the same whether CU or wedding. The printer made no mention of lllegaily ASFAIK.


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