Nuns get tshirt taken off the shelves in Arnotts

Whosthis

Its a horrible t-shirt in a design sense but people being offended by it are either too easily offended or on a crusade to feel offended.

catallus

Or a crusade to protect society from the hordes of perversion!?

shruikan2553

Bit of a weird t shirt but I guess the nuns dont like it since they lost the laundry business. If they cant wash them no one can!

SEPT 23 1989

I thought this men hating quango would be too busy saving the millions of women trafficked into Ireland each year

The Th!ng

I think the t-shirt is poorly designed and if I saw someone wearing it I'd think they were a complete and utter dickhead.

But the real problem here though is the fact that Ruhama are intent on setting themselves up as moral guardians of this country. It starts off with a t-shirt, next it's ISPs blocking porn sites, etc. They'd be delighted to close down all the sex shops in the country if they could get away with it.

K4t

The Th!ng wrote: »

But the real problem here though is the fact that Ruhama are intent on setting themselves up as moral guardians of this country. It starts off with a t-shirt, next it's ISPs blocking porn sites, etc. They'd be delighted to close down all the sex shops in the country if they could get away with it.

You've obviously never heard of the catholic church...

Cee-Jay-Cee

It's the Irush way, pander to the smallest minorities and bitch about it afterwards.

AndonHandon

So I can leer at women on the street ant no one's going to hassle me for it but when I pay the woman for the privilege I'm castrated? This country!

Shrap

AndonHandon wrote: »

So I can leer at women on the street ant no one's going to hassle me for it but when I pay the woman for the privilege I'm castrated? This country!

You seem to be offended by something?

Being castrated against your will would offend anybody in fairness. Illegal too. Did you notify the authorities?

AndonHandon

Shrap wrote: »

You seem to be offended by something?

Being castrated against your will would offend anybody in fairness. Illegal too. Did you notify the authorities?

I'm offended by people being offended of others being offended by something offensive which is offending people.

I'm going to go murder a prostitute.

shruikan2553

Shrap wrote: »

You seem to be offended by something?

Being castrated against your will would offend anybody in fairness. Illegal too. Did you notify the authorities?

He doesnt have the balls to do it :pac:

Dravokivich

The only thing I don't like about the t-shirt is that I feel it would have been over priced. Certainly is in the link Mikom posted earlier.

BlaasForRafa

Whosthis wrote: »

Its a horrible t-shirt in a design sense but people being offended by it are either too easily offended or on a crusade to feel offended.

It's a pity they weren't more offended about the Magdalene laundries.

And agreed, it isn't the best looking t-shirt but no reason for it to be withdrawn from sale.

Shrap

AndonHandon wrote: »

I'm offended by people being offended of others being offended by something offensive which is offending people.

I'm going to go murder a prostitute.

Well, there certainly are degrees of taking and giving offence, just as there are degrees of ability with and understanding of sarcasm. Best not to get those muddled, eh? Good lad.

NachoBusiness

'Daddy, I don't think this shop sells spearmint or rhinos'.

AndonHandon

Shrap wrote: »

Well, there certainly are degrees of taking and giving offence, just as there are degrees of ability with and understanding of sarcasm. Best not to get those muddled, eh? Good lad.

Is your sister/mother/*insert female relative as appropriate a prostitute?

Tails142

How do you get a nun pregnant?





You fuck her!

Shrap

AndonHandon wrote: »

Is your sister/mother/*insert female relative as appropriate a prostitute?

Why do you ask? :P Is it relevant to the t-shirt discussion?

Sheldons Brain

Arnotts is an old and respected brand in Dublin, stocking this tat did them no favours.

AndonHandon

Shrap wrote: »

Why do you ask? :P Is it relevant to the t-shirt discussion?

I could recommend a tshirt for them;

http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.12982699.2310/figtn,220x294,black,mens,ffffff.jpg

Shrap

Sheldons Brain wrote: »

Arnotts is an old and respected brand in Dublin, stocking this tat did them no favours.

Yes, clearly they have done damage to their reputation as a nice, genteel coffee stop for nuns. However, it has sold overpriced tat for many generations. The tat used to have a whiff of "class" due to it's clientèle, but safe to say they've had to branch out a bit since my granny and her generation died....

Shrap

AndonHandon wrote: »

I could recommend a tshirt for them;

http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.12982699.2310/figtn,220x294,black,mens,ffffff.jpg

How unfortunate that "stitute" isn't a word, or that might have worked out.

Baby Jane

Not sure why people are saying Ruhama should be protecting trafficked women and so on instead of campaigning against this t-shirt. There is zero cause to believe they're not doing both, in fairness.

the dark phantom wrote: »

Of course Arnott's had to do the Irish on it by apologizing and removing the 'offending' items, Lick asses that need to grow balls. The Nuns should have been told where to stick it.

Unfortunately it's not as straightforward as that when there's a campaign of hysteria against the company, particularly on social media.
They want to minimise brand damage so that's why they have to bow down before the objectors.

Nodin wrote: »

Actually its a satire of a ladybird book, which is the joke. Much like the alternative titles to childrens books eg "You're different, and that's bad".

Yeh that's what I was thinking - a lampooning of those "Boys Own" 70s and 80s books: "My First Football Match" and the like.
Arnotts is a strange place for it though - not the right audience. It would be more suited to Urban Outfitters or somewhere.

MonkstownHoop

The_Valeyard wrote: »

An adult male and young kid at a pole dance? Why would someone wear that? Kinda creepy.

Ironic Banter! #bantz

Nodin

Baby Jane wrote: »

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Yeh that's what I was thinking - a lampooning of those "Boys Own" 70s and 80s books: "My First Football Match" and the like.
Arnotts is a strange place for it though - not the right audience. It would be more suited to Urban Outfitters or somewhere.

It would work as a funny jpeg but doesn't as a t-shirt. Getting a shop to drop it and roaring 'victory is mine' is a rather stupid overreaction though.

conorh91

Nodin wrote: »

Getting a shop to drop it and roaring 'victory is mine' is a rather stupid overreaction though.

Who roared that?

Ruhama simply tweeted that the image left them "surprised", which is what started all of this. They later said to a journalist that is was "concerning". Very measured language actually, and many of us would use the same language.

I don't see Ruhama making a particularly big deal about it, and certainly not "roaring" about "victory".

Rough Sleeper

conorh91 wrote: »

Who roared that?

Ruhama simply tweeted that the image left them "surprised", which is what started all of this. They later said to a journalist that is was "concerning". Very measured language actually, and many of us would use the same language.

I don't see Ruhama making a particularly big deal about it, and certainly not "roaring" about "victory".

They're currently spamming their Twitter page out of it with retweets of anyone and everyone who's congratulating them on their efforts. It's definitely triumphalist stuff.

BlaasForRafa

Baby Jane wrote: »

Not sure why people are saying Ruhama should be protecting trafficked women and so on instead of campaigning against this t-shirt. There is zero cause to believe they're not doing both, in fairness.

I think some people are saying that Ruhama are a bunch of hypocrites because they derive from religious orders that perpetrated great harm against women for generations and that they are just a front for the catholic church

conorh91

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

They're currently spamming their Twitter page out of it with retweets of anyone and everyone who's congratulating them on their efforts. It's definitely triumphalist stuff.

Yeah, they haven't tweeted in 8 hours, and before that, 13 hours.

Ruhama are pretty active on twitter. If they're getting a lot of feedback, I suppose you want them to shut down and ignore people communicating with them? Jeez, relax. They've been nothing but calm and polite.

magentis

Damn i want one of these tshirts bad now.

Rough Sleeper

conorh91 wrote: »

Yeah, they haven't tweeted in 8 hours, and before that, 13 hours.

Ruhama are pretty active on twitter. If they're getting a lot of feedback, I suppose you want them to shut down and ignore people communicating with them? Jeez, relax. They've been nothing but calm and polite.

Sure, "currently" wasn't the best word then. But I follow a fair few people on Twitter and none of them seem to consider feedback to be posting 30 retweets of people saying "well done," which just seems like a bit of a back-patting session to me.


Don't really think I need to relax, either. Surely it's the the people calling for a fairly innocuous t-shirt to be banned who need to take the chill pill?

conorh91

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

Don't really think I need to relax, either. Surely it's the the people calling for a fairly innocuous t-shirt to be banned who need to take the chill pill?

People called for it to be banned?

Who?

Yellowblackbird

Anyone advocating a diminution of our freedoms needs to be locked up for the rest of their earthly life and never allowed to speak again.

Rough Sleeper

conorh91 wrote: »

People called for it to be banned?

Who?

Bad wording on my part.They decided to draw attention to it on social media and I'm inferring that they intended to drum up outrage with the ultimate goal of having it removed.

jungleman

The whole thing was ridiculously blown out of proportion. Some people might have seen it as humorous. Some people might have seen it as tasteless. So ****ing what? Since twitter and facebook have grown over the years, it's given rise to this total mob mentality where movements of outrage just seem to snowball.

What irks me more than any t-shirt is the self gratifying people who sit behind keyboards, typing exactly how offended and outraged they are, and sit back and wait for the "offender" to offer up some kind of grovelling apology, which is simply orgasmic for the poor outraged. They are most likely the same people who typed #BringBackOurGirls or #StopKony as their facebook status, leaned back in their chair, arms folded, smiled and said to themselves "wow I have really made such a difference here, big pat on the back to me".

JupiterKid

The t-shirt is completely tasteless and mildly offensive but I do get a bit concerned when a group like Ruhama touts victory in getting something banned. This is the same Ruhama that protested outside of a lap dancing club on Parnell St. a few years back. They are just a front for the religious orders.

Catholic Ireland hasn't completely gone away you know.

Caliden

Christ everyone gets offended so easily these days.

Something has got to give otherwise we will be a pack of mutes for fear of saying something that might offend someone.

suicide_circus

While I don't like your tshirt, I will defend to the death your right to wear it.

I completely understand Arnotts commercial decision, a large proportion of their customers would be of the shrill hand-wringing class. If anyone does still wanna wear this tshirt. ..

http://www.truffleshuffle.co.uk/store/do-not-unarchive-returns-to-go-on-staff-shelves-mens-white-my-first-pole-dance-tshirt-from-chunk-p-14156.html

Dravokivich

suicide_circus wrote: »

While I don't like your tshirt, I will defend to the death your right to wear it.

I completely understand Arnotts commercial decision, a large proportion of their customers would be of the shrill hand-wringing class. If anyone does still wanna wear this tshirt. ..

http://www.truffleshuffle.co.uk/store/do-not-unarchive-returns-to-go-on-staff-shelves-mens-white-my-first-pole-dance-tshirt-from-chunk-p-14156.html

Says item not available.

suicide_circus

Dravokivich wrote: »

Says item not available.

Woops sorry.

You could always buy a plain white tshirt and a few tshirt markers and make your own I suppose

norwegianwood

As much as it annoys me that the Catholic Church thinks they can talk about objectifying women when they literally enslaved them not so long ago that t-shirt is fcuking weird. What was going through the head of whoever made that thing?

conorh91

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

Bad wording on my part.They decided to draw attention to it on social media and I'm inferring that they intended to drum up outrage with the ultimate goal of having it removed.

They tweeted that they found the tshirt "surprising"; it's hardly fighting talk or a mob call.

Ruhama tweet about women's rights every day of the week. They did originally grow out of a convent, but their Director is a feminist, not a nun, and they are part of an alliance with groups like the Labour Party and the Union of Students in Ireland in trying to decriminalize prostitution.

This is one of those threads on AH, like that TV licence thread, where no amount of sense or perspective will change the mind of someone who is absolutely intent on ignoring the obvious, and it's probably a waste of time to even engage.

Dravokivich

conorh91 wrote: »

They tweeted that they found the tshirt "surprising"; it's hardly fighting talk or a mob call.

Ruhama tweet about women's rights every day of the week. They did originally grow out of a convent, but their Director is a feminist, not a nun, and they are part of an alliance with groups like the Labour Party and the Union of Students in Ireland in trying to decriminalize prostitution.

This is one of those threads on AH, like that TV licence thread, where no amount of sense or perspective will change the mind of someone who is absolutely intent on ignoring the obvious, and it's probably a waste of time to even engage.

Huh? It isn't a criminal offence.

And I feel you are selectively quoting them on the subject of the t-shirt as well:

Really surprised to see @ArnottsDublin selling these T-shirts. #normalisationofsextrade #objectificationofwomen

Ruhuma are really pulling at straws to justify their existence as far as I'm concerned.

nokia69

conorh91 wrote: »

Ruhama tweet about women's rights every day of the week. They did originally grow out of a convent, but their Director is a feminist, not a nun, and they are part of an alliance with groups like the Labour Party and the Union of Students in Ireland in trying to decriminalize prostitution.

but prostitution is not illegal

the law changes they want are very different

its a strange alliance, nuns and feminists, I suppose the one thing that unites them is a hate for men

Nodin

conorh91 wrote: »

Who roared that?

Ruhama simply tweeted that the image left them "surprised", which is what started all of this. They later said to a journalist that is was "concerning". Very measured language actually, and many of us would use the same language.

I don't see Ruhama making a particularly big deal about it, and certainly not "roaring" about "victory".

Many of us have more to be concerned about.

"Well done to @RuhamaAgency for getting it off the shelves!
#NotBuyingIt"
http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/03/05/gulp-5/

conorh91

Nodin wrote: »

"Well done to @RuhamaAgency for getting it off the shelves!
#NotBuyingIt"
http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/03/05/gulp-5/

You live a very sheltered existence if that upsets you, and you consider it "roaring".

Dravokivich wrote: »

Huh? It isn't a criminal offence.

Are you really confused? Genuinely no idea what I mean? Honestly?

This is AH and we are not drafting legal documents, most people use prostitution as shorthand for the solicitation of sex for money in a public place, but we can go with the pointlessly long version if anyone is confused.

Nodin

conorh91 wrote: »

You live a very sheltered existence if that upsets you, and you consider it "roaring".

From the people that found a satirical t-shirt "concerning".....

FunLover18

The awkwardness of going to a strip club with your dad …

rainbow kirby

Ruhama can fcuk right off, they'd have us back to the days of the Magdalene laundries in a heartbeat if they could.

bjork

FunLover18 wrote: »

The awkwardness of going to a strip club with your dad …

when you're 8