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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2
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Not trying to be a dick, but there are no other Chiefs fans here as best I know (or as good as none) - if it were NE, GB or a few others you would have had a few responses by now. I can barely recall 3-4 other teams' drafts outside of GB's in much detail, and frankly when if it ever jumps into my mind that "I wonder how [other team] did in the draft again, I forgot?" I just do as RDS suggested and google a few reviews of it. Actually makes for excellent, quick toilet reading along with free agency!
I went to that NFL yolk in the Convention Centre and legitimately there were 31 other shirts and I was the only KCC shirt wearer. Kelce 87.
Made me proud actually.
Can't wait for my Mahomes 15 White Away to arrive soon
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How did you get into supporting the chiefs anyway? I usually assume someone went to the team's City on a j1 and got into it that way or something, but don't there's many Irish have spent time in Kansas City.Always Be Closing wrote: »Not trying to be a dick, but there are no other Chiefs fans here as best I know (or as good as none) - if it were NE, GB or a few others you would have had a few responses by now. I can barely recall 3-4 other teams' drafts outside of GB's in much detail, and frankly when if it ever jumps into my mind that "I wonder how [other team] did in the draft again, I forgot?" I just do as RDS suggested and google a few reviews of it. Actually makes for excellent, quick toilet reading along with free agency!
I went to that NFL yolk in the Convention Centre and legitimately there were 31 other shirts and I was the only KCC shirt wearer. Kelce 87.
Made me proud actually.
Can't wait for my Mahomes 15 White Away to arrive soon0 -
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Chiefs draft: Quick bit of analysis from what I've seen/watched since and what I've heard about them
We went all defense (except a defensive player were going to convert to OG), I think we needed more of a focus on secondary but there are some pieces there as well. Each player below:
Breeland Speaks, DE, Ole Miss
Looking like were going to play him at OLB instead of DE, Interesting as we have Tanoh trying to get into that spot from last year and likely means we are getting rid of Dee Ford after this season. Nice to have some rotation, like the player but not our biggest area of need, could be a sign that we are going to go a lot of press man on the outside and rotate rushers at OLB
Derrick Nnadi, DT, Florida State
We needed a nose tackle, Xavier Williams is ther enow and we need line depth. From what I hear high motor kid, should fit in well. Look to be building a very young DL rotation in the coming years if picks pay off. think we also picked up Dee Liner at DT as a free agent.
Dorian O'Daniel, LB, Clemson
I like this one a lot! Fast, fun to watch, id imagine we'll have him play a hybrid LB/S kind of role given his speed/coverage. also a great special teamer in college os can bring that immediately as well. Means we have a nice collection of LBs to disguise rushes and coverages if needed down the line.
Armani Watts, S, Texas A&M
Add to the defensive backfield, 4 year started in college, good tackler. We lost Ron Parker in off season and berry's injury showed us how much we need depth beyond Dirty Dan. Can be incredible but reports say he can be a bit boom or bust on plays, guessing on routes etc so will need to work on that. Should be in rotation and possibly pushing to start by end of year.
Tremon Smith, CB, Central
for me too little too late, we should have gone CB earlier. That said, interesting prospect. Small school kid, very good production there. Project as well need to see how he translates to the NFL speed and size. Could be good and if so, should push to see some playing time at the end of the year in CB3 rotation. Has some special teams experience too
Kahlil McKenzie, DT, Tennessee
Fun times troll pick. This is Raiders GM Reggie McKenzies son. We are planning to move him to guard (as was apparently the expected approach of all the teams looking at him). Lot of work needed but guard seems to be a better fit for him. Take a punt on your final pick and steal your divisional rivals kid? Why not?
Overall I'm happy with some of the players, think we had bigger needs like a CB earlier but trust the management to know better than me on this. Feels a lot like a building draft for next year and the year after. Also, could point to a defensive scheme change/coaching change as a lot of these players are tweeners and could move from OLB to DE in a 4-3 (Speaks).
Yeah, thats all I got for now Not the most exciting but looks to be a long term plan 0 -
Always Be Closing wrote: »I went to that NFL yolk in the Convention Centre and legitimately there were 31 other shirts and I was the only KCC shirt wearer. Kelce 87.
Made me proud actually.
Can't wait for my Mahomes 15 White Away to arrive soon
Mahomes is going to be an interesting one, it's a gamble because Alex Smith is quietly one of the top QBs in the league (not best of the best, but not too far off) - it might take you a few years to really grasp just how important a QB is to a team. Though my Packers last year might have given you an idea.
Someone said it a few posts back and they weren't being an ass, in drafts it takes 3 years to know who worked out. If you follow soccer, a bit like how a guy might be scoring 50 goals a year in underage groups but fails to do anything in the senior team but to a bigger extent as only 32 teams means even when one team looks amazing and another looks horrible, the margins are tiny - the best team vs the worst team is usually, at most, about the same as Everton vs Real Madrid in terms of talent and cohesion (it's part of what makes the sport so great). Last years Browns were the first team I have seen (watching since 2002) where they just didn't look like they could beat anyone even if not taken seriously. Possibly the biggest "can't miss" player I've seen hyped (Vernon Gholston in 2008) barely ever even saw the field and was out of the league after 3-4 years as a backup... meanwhile a WR like Antonio Brown (the best technical WR I've ever seen, probably the best overall WR I've ever seen outside of Moss/Owens at their best) went all the way down in the fifth round, despite that being quite a highly valued position.
If it works though, having Kelce, Hill and Hunt as options for him could be absolutely lethal. The Chiefs lost their GM last year but he drafted Mahomes, and under him the Chiefs had a pretty excellent record of talent evaluation, plus having such good receiving outlets who can gain YAC after shorter/simpler catches (and bail outs, like quick passes to Kelce when under pressure)
Also if you like to do a few small bets, the NFL is the best sport going for it and it's a great way to get to know the teams and how the game works. I'm not talking anything serious, but a €5 accumulator every week type of thing. I've got a good few friends into the sport over the years and that's always been a really good way to get them to keep engaged with 'bad' games and such which is great for understanding how the game works. Or put a tenner on two teams outside of the Chiefs to win their divisions, gives you a second and third team to route for while you're still trying to figure out the roster and rules.
If she has the Madden game, it's an awesome way to pick up the rules and some intricacies. If not, well the new one is out in August.
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Mahomes is going to be an interesting one, it's a gamble because Alex Smith is quietly one of the top QBs in the league (not best of the best, but not too far off) - it might take you a few years to really grasp just how important a QB is to a team. Though my Packers last year might have given you an idea.
Someone said it a few posts back and they weren't being an ass, in drafts it takes 3 years to know who worked out. If you follow soccer, a bit like how a guy might be scoring 50 goals a year in underage groups but fails to do anything in the senior team but to a bigger extent as only 32 teams means even when one team looks amazing and another looks horrible, the margins are tiny - the best team vs the worst team is usually, at most, about the same as Everton vs Real Madrid in terms of talent and cohesion (it's part of what makes the sport so great). Last years Browns were the first team I have seen (watching since 2002) where they just didn't look like they could beat anyone even if not taken seriously. Possibly the biggest "can't miss" player I've seen hyped (Vernon Gholston in 2008) barely ever even saw the field and was out of the league after 3-4 years as a backup... meanwhile a WR like Antonio Brown (the best technical WR I've ever seen, probably the best overall WR I've ever seen outside of Moss/Owens at their best) went all the way down in the fifth round, despite that being quite a highly valued position.
If it works though, having Kelce, Hill and Hunt as options for him could be absolutely lethal. The Chiefs lost their GM last year but he drafted Mahomes, and under him the Chiefs had a pretty excellent record of talent evaluation, plus having such good receiving outlets who can gain YAC after shorter/simpler catches (and bail outs, like quick passes to Kelce when under pressure)
Also if you like to do a few small bets, the NFL is the best sport going for it and it's a great way to get to know the teams and how the game works. I'm not talking anything serious, but a €5 accumulator every week type of thing. I've got a good few friends into the sport over the years and that's always been a really good way to get them to keep engaged with 'bad' games and such which is great for understanding how the game works. Or put a tenner on two teams outside of the Chiefs to win their divisions, gives you a second and third team to route for while you're still trying to figure out the roster and rules.
If she has the Madden game, it's an awesome way to pick up the rules and some intricacies. If not, well the new one is out in August.
Cheers for that
Well she's gone now, with my PS4 and Madden so I'll need to buy them again.
I did acca's every game week of last season, usually 8 teams, tenner acca. I clicked it once, got something like 280 back. I also had 300 on KCC in our playoff loss v Titans
From what I recall, both Hill and Hunt were 4th round picks in their respective drafts and they hit the ground running in their first seasons, so I have hope for Mahomes.
He looked brilliant against Denver in the final game, doing stuff Smith would never attempt to try.
With Watkins, Kelce, Hill and Hunt as Weapons, and Eric Berry, Spencer Ware and Justin Houston returning, I'm quietly confident ahead of the forthcoming season 0 -
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Jolly Red Giant wrote: »Admit it - you are just a little jealous
Oh absolutely, I'm massively jealous that a former player chose to be a part of the Broncos backroom coaching staff over the Cowboys. I think I'll just give up following NFL, how can anyone compete with Ware joining the Broncos coaching?0 -
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bruschi wrote:Those ex Patriots players, stinks there so it does.
Yeah those 9 days as a Patriot really messed him up. 0 -
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