The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

adrian522

How does this happen? (If True)

http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2016/9/14/12924368/espn-john-clayton-rams-hc-jeff-fisher-extension

JaMarcusHustle

He surely has some incriminating photos of Les Snead and Stan Kroenke.

Adamcp898

adrian522 wrote: »

How does this happen? (If True)

http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2016/9/14/12924368/espn-john-clayton-rams-hc-jeff-fisher-extension

Hilarious that they know it's going to be so badly received that they're trying to bury it as a footnote at the bottom of a more positive press release. Expect it at 4.50 pm on a Friday in that case. :pac:

ScummyMan

adrian522 wrote: »

How does this happen? (If True)

http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2016/9/14/12924368/espn-john-clayton-rams-hc-jeff-fisher-extension

Probably gonna get $7-9 million a year

Realt Dearg Sec

Reading the comments below it, it sounds like their fans have long since given up even speculating about why he is allowed keep his job. One theory they put forward is that StanK doesn't care about wins, only about money, and he has increased the team's value by moving etc. But that doesn't quite add up, a winning team is worth vastly more than a losing one. I dunno. Hilarious though, the NFL never disappoints.

jack presley

https://twitter.com/andrewbrandt/status/775773258746650624

DDC1990

ScummyMan wrote:

Probably gonna get $7-9 million a year

Brilliant! So subtle!

Itssoeasy

MODERN-ERA NOMINEES FOR THE
PRO FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME CLASS OF 2017

*Finalist in 2016; Underline indicates first year of eligibility (Players and coaches must have last played coached at least five full seasons to be eligible for nomination. Therefore, any individual who last played or coached in 2011 are eligible for the first time in 2017).

BY POSITION

QUARTERBACKS (7)
Drew Bledsoe, Randall Cunningham, Doug Flutie, Donovan McNabb, Steve McNair, Phil Simms, *Kurt Warner


RUNNING BACKS (13)

Shaun Alexander, Ottis Anderson, Tiki Barber, Larry Centers, Roger Craig, *Terrell Davis, Eddie George, *Edgerrin James, Daryl Johnston, Eric Metcalf (also WR/PR/KR), LaDainian Tomlinson, Herschel Walker (also KR), Ricky Watters


WIDE RECEIVERS (10)
Isaac Bruce, Henry Ellard (also PR), Torry Holt, Chad Johnson, Derrick Mason (also KR/PR), *Terrell Owens, Sterling Sharpe, Jimmy Smith, Rod Smith, Hines Ward


TIGHT END (1)
Mark Bavaro


OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (14)

Tony Boselli (T), Ray Donaldson (C), *Alan Faneca (G), Jay Hilgenberg (C), Chris Hinton (G/T), Kent Hull (C), *Joe Jacoby (T), Mike Kenn (T), Olin Kreutz (C), Jim Lachey (T), Kevin Mawae (C/G), Tom Nalen (C), Nate Newton (G), Steve Wisniewski (G)


DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (5)

Leslie O’Neal (DE), Simeon Rice (DE), Fred Smerlas (NT), Jason Taylor (DE), Bryant Young (DT)


LINEBACKERS (11)

Carl Banks, Cornelius Bennett, Tedy Bruschi, Seth Joyner, Levon Kirkland, Clay Matthews, Willie McGinest (also DE), Karl Mecklenburg, Sam Mills, Joey Porter, Zach Thomas


DEFENSIVE BACKS (16)

Eric Allen (CB), *Steve Atwater (S), Joey Browner (S), LeRoy Butler (S), Brian Dawkins (SS), Rodney Harrison (S), Ty Law (CB), Albert Lewis (CB), *John Lynch (S), Frank Minnifield (CB), Bob Sanders (SS), Darren Sharper (FS), Dennis Smith (SS), Troy Vincent (S), Everson Walls (CB), Darren Woodson (S)


KICKERS/PUNTER (4)

*Morten Andersen (K), Gary Anderson (K), Sean Landeta (P), Nick Lowery (K)


SPECIAL TEAMS (2)

Brian Mitchell (KR/PR also RB), Steve Tasker (ST also WR)


COACHES (11)
*Don Coryell, Bill Cowher, Tom Flores, Mike Holmgren, Jimmy Johnson, Chuck Knox, Buddy Parker, Richie Petitbon, Dan Reeves, Clark Shaughnessy, Dick Vermeil

The 94 modern players eligible for enshrinement were annonced last night and the list is above. A maximum of five from that list will be elected the night of the NFL honours ceremony next year before the Super Bowl.

paulie21

Thought TD was already in for some reason. Would love to see Bruschi get in

ScummyMan

I'd be willing to wager Darren Sharper won't be getting in any time soon :pac:

Knex*

Carl Banks was fantastic for the Giants. His name is overshadowed by LT and Howard Cross, both of whom are in the Hall, but he was an outstanding linebacker in his day.

Extremely knowledgable about the game too. Does a fair bit of work on the Giants channel breaking down the x's and o's.

Brian mother****ing Dawkins hope weapon x gets in first ballot

Brian mother****ing Dawkins hope weapon x gets in first ballot

Foxtrol

$750 million in public funding for a Raiders Stadium in Vegas has been passed by a Nevada oversight committee. Think there's one step before it is fully approved.

jack presley

Foxtrol wrote: »

$750 million in public funding for a Raiders Stadium in Vegas has been passed by a Nevada oversight committee. Think there's one step before it is fully approved.

Yeah, still needs approval by the Governor and legislature.

Itssoeasy

ScummyMan wrote: »

I'd be willing to wager Darren Sharper won't be getting in any time soon :pac:

He's lucky he's still eligible although the halls policy on off the field issues not to be considered keeps him there for now. Yeah he's never ever getting in whenever he gets out.

The NFL PR department will see to that unofficially anyway.

Itssoeasy

jack presley wrote: »

Foxtrol wrote: »

$750 million in public funding for a Raiders Stadium in Vegas has been passed by a Nevada oversight committee. Think there's one step before it is fully approved.

Yeah, still needs approval by the Governor and legislature.

Id say roger and the league aren't happy despite public money being used.

helimachoptor

Foxtrol wrote: »

$750 million in public funding for a Raiders Stadium in Vegas has been passed by a Nevada oversight committee. Think there's one step before it is fully approved.

That is massive, Oakland are going to have to pony up. Davis is not going to turn that down

There is no way this actually happens is there? Vegas would be a nightmare for any team from a or lerapective (although perhaps the raiders would embrace that more than most given there past)

Foxtrol

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Id say roger and the league aren't happy despite public money being used.

Why would you say that? It's not that dissimilar market in size than Oakland and is currently untapped. It'll be a much nicer venue then their current home. Bring a lot more tourist exposure (expanding the game) along with the general novelty factor. It's actually a shorter drive for any LA based fans to travel to the game too.

I don't see why they'd be displeased

Itssoeasy

helimachoptor wrote: »

That is massive, Oakland are going to have to pony up. Davis is not going to turn that down

Do Oakland or more specifically alameda county have the bobs to match that ? I'd say the As are rubbing their hands with glee. They might finally have the palacial coliseum to themselves.

Itssoeasy

Foxtrol wrote: »

Why would you say that? It's not that dissimilar market in size than Oakland and is currently untapped. It'll be a much nicer venue then their current home. Bring a lot more tourist exposure (expanding the game) along with the general novelty factor. It's actually a shorter drive for any LA based fans to travel to the game too.

I don't see why they'd be displeased

One word. Gambling.

Beefy78

Vegas and the Raiders are a perfect fit.

Itssoeasy

Beefy78 wrote: »

Vegas and the Raiders are a perfect fit.

They might be a perfect fit but I just feel given that I've heard NFL media employees on podcast tip toe around the "place in the desert" and not name Las Vegas. And they are league employees. That's why I don't think the league will be happy. I could be wrong but in private I get the feeling they ain't pleased with it.

OldMrBrennan83

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jack presley

Patww79 wrote: »

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Well the good news is that was probably the last game he's going to call. He only did that game because the regular MNF crew were in Washington and I don't think there are any more doubleheaders on Monday night. This is the last year of his contract and it's rumoured that he won't be renewed.

OldMrBrennan83

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helimachoptor

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Do Oakland or more specifically alameda county have the bobs to match that ? I'd say the As are rubbing their hands with glee. They might finally have the palacial coliseum to themselves.

I dont think so, just taking a look at their budget for 2017.

Their operating budget is 3 billion which covers running the county

The Capital Expenditure budget is a 5 year program, its a bit confusing but it looks like its 1.2 billion over 5 years

So unless they can petition for additional funds from California.. they aint got the money

jack presley

helimachoptor wrote: »

I dont think so, just taking a look at their budget for 2017.

Their operating budget is 3 billion which covers running the county

The Capital Expenditure budget is a 5 year program, its a bit confusing but it looks like its 1.2 billion over 5 years

So unless they can petition for additional funds from California.. they aint got the money

Isn't California still broke?

helimachoptor

jack presley wrote: »

Isn't California still broke?

yeah but they've been broke for years, but then so is america, they just remortgage their debt.. people loan them more money and the cycle continues

jack presley

helimachoptor wrote: »

yeah but they've been broke for years, but then so is america, they just remortgage their debt.. people loan them more money and the cycle continues

My sister in law's a teacher in California and a few times a year they shut the schools so they won't have to pay the teachers, run the buses, use electricity etc. to save a few quid. It's strange hearing that in the most populous state (wealthiest too?) in the country.

helimachoptor

its the 5th biggest economy in the world.. on paper anyway.. just dont ask to be paid!

Beefy78

Itssoeasy wrote: »

They might be a perfect fit but I just feel given that I've heard NFL media employees on podcast tip toe around the "place in the desert" and not name Las Vegas. And they are league employees. That's why I don't think the league will be happy. I could be wrong but in private I get the feeling they ain't pleased with it.

I get the impression that the League's position on Vegas has softened in recent years. Jerry Jones has talked positively about it as a location, for example, and his voice carries a lot of influence.

It makes a lot of sense and vetoing it on moral grounds makes little sense considering all the things NFL players keep getting banned for and the fact that the League are more than happy to take money from the Draft Kings, League Safe, et al.

bruschi

paulie21 wrote: »

Thought TD was already in for some reason. Would love to see Bruschi get in

Me too buddy, me too....

eagle eye

On the hall, Dawkins is certain to get in imo, LT too I'd imagine. I'd fancy Hines Ward will get picked.

Chad Johnson should get it based on his career but all his off field stuff from the Ochocinco to domestic violence, which isn't supposed to affect things, will prevent him getting in imo. I'd fancy Vermeil too. I'd be surprised if Bruschi got it first time. Hopefully Kurt Warner gets in, he should have been there first time imo.

poldebruin

eagle eye wrote: »

On the hall, Dawkins is certain to get in imo, LT too I'd imagine. I'd fancy Hines Ward will get picked.

Chad Johnson should get it based on his career but all his off field stuff from the Ochocinco to domestic violence, which isn't supposed to affect things, will prevent him getting in imo. I'd fancy Vermeil too. I'd be surprised if Bruschi got it first time. Hopefully Kurt Warner gets in, he should have been there first time imo.

Yes to Dawkins and Tomlinson, think Owens goes in before Ward. Chad Johnson will have to wait, and I don't think he's made a case ahead of the WR log jam, which should only get worse. I think Warner has done enough to get in - some extremely high highs.

Realt Dearg Sec

CHAD JOHNSON is eligible for the hall of fame? Hearing that made me feel so old. Can't believe he's out of the league that long.

Knex*

Thought TO should have got in last year, so I'm definitely looking for him to get in this time. His play absolutely merits it.

Dawkings and LT are the standout first ballot candidates.

bruschi

eagle eye wrote: »

On the hall, Dawkins is certain to get in imo, LT too I'd imagine. I'd fancy Hines Ward will get picked.

Chad Johnson should get it based on his career but all his off field stuff from the Ochocinco to domestic violence, which isn't supposed to affect things, will prevent him getting in imo. I'd fancy Vermeil too. I'd be surprised if Bruschi got it first time. Hopefully Kurt Warner gets in, he should have been there first time imo.

would agree with that too. And on Bruschi, I would too be surprised if he got in first time. Club legend there is no doubt about it, but I wouldnt think he was the best player league wide in his position. Quite obviously a personal hero of mine so would be fantastic for him to be even more appreciated outside of Foxboro.

Knex*

Enjoyed Sherman's player tribute. Gave some great insight into both Pete Carroll and LA.

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/richard-sherman-seahawks-nfl-in-los-angeles/

these are guys from some of the roughest schools in Compton, and Coach Carroll has them calling him Uncle Pete. Even today, he can walk into the projects in Compton — projects that some of us who grew up there can’t even walk into because they’re too dangerous. He can go in and talk to the kids, shake hands and kiss babies like it’s nothing.

That’s the kind of respect and admiration he gets in those communities — because of the work he’s done, and because he genuinely cares.

helimachoptor

Greg roman sacked in buffalo

Itssoeasy

helimachoptor wrote: »

Greg roman sacked in buffalo

Rex and rob throwing people over board already ?

coco0981

helimachoptor wrote: »

Greg roman sacked in buffalo

https://twitter.com/fbgchase/status/776838287365443584

Itssoeasy

Bill Belichick when asked to comment on the situation in buffalo.

OldMrBrennan83

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Paully D

helimachoptor wrote: »

Greg roman sacked in buffalo

As I saw posted on Twitter: "he really struggled to slow down the Jets WR's last night". :pac:

UnitedIrishman

2015 Bills, with now-fired OC Greg Roman, had the best PPG, YPG, yards/play, and pass YPG of any team Rex Ryan has ever had as a head coach.

Well, I guess Rex can't fire himself.. Or his brother. What's that saying - 'the last act of a desperate man'.

Realt Dearg Sec

Jesus that's disgraceful. His offense scores 31 points, enough to win probably 80% of NFL games (more? I dunno. Most anyway), while his consistently incompetent brother's defence coughs up 37 points, and they fire the OC? How does Rex keep getting these gigs? A few funny quips at press conferences?
This is as bad as Lovie getting the heave-ho last year by the Bucs.

Foxtrol

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Jesus that's disgraceful. His offense scores 31 points, enough to win probably 80% of NFL games (more? I dunno. Most anyway), while his consistently incompetent brother's defence coughs up 37 points, and they fire the OC? How does Rex keep getting these gigs? A few funny quips at press conferences?
This is as bad as Lovie getting the heave-ho last year by the Bucs.

Don’t get me wrong on this, I completely agree that he is being made a scapegoat and the Ryans are more at fault, but the 31 points is a bit misleading. The offense was very poor, 2/3 huge plays, a garbage time touchdown, and a touchdown on defense make the score seem a lot better than the actual offense performance.

Realt Dearg Sec

Foxtrol wrote: »

Don’t get me wrong on this, I completely agree that he is being made a scapegoat and the Ryans are more at fault, but the 31 points is a bit misleading. The offense was very poor, 2/3 huge plays, a garbage time touchdown, and a touchdown on defense make the score seem a lot better than the actual offense performance.

Yeah I know, I watched it and it was pretty dire, and reading what Bills fans have to say about it, it seems like his run-first offense is a bit old hat these days so he was always going to be on the chopping block, it's just that a game where your utterly useless, couldn't be hired anywhere else brother is the DC behind giving up 37 points, is probably not a great day to be firing the other guy. I think Rex's race is almost ran himself, these are the actions of a desperate man.