The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

OAOB

Chargers won't win the Nov vote and don't think anyone believes they can.

They will inevitably go to LA but don't know why they'd move to the Colliseum, they'd be better off waiting in SD until the new stadium is ready

Jolly Red Giant

helimachoptor wrote: »

Broncos are great JRG, take it to the Broncos thread.

Come on now heli - there are lots of teams discussed on this thread - and my post covered relevant points about both Cam Newton and Andrew Luck as well as the Broncos.

Jolly Red Giant

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Come on now heli - there are lots of teams discussed on this thread - and my post covered relevant points about both Cam Newton and Andrew Luck as well as the Broncos.

no other team is discussed anywhere close to as much as you bring up the Broncos

Jolly Red Giant

Clementine Scary String wrote: »

no other team is discussed anywhere close to as much as you bring up the Broncos

I generally bring up the Broncos once - and then the trolls come to to play.

TOss Sweep

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

I generally bring up the Broncos once - and then the trolls come to to play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lRIQGU2RRk

helimachoptor

JRG is taking a break from the forum.

Can I remind all posters of the forum and indeed Boards rules about posting on thread about mod actions.

TOss Sweep, please do not respond in kind to posts.

Son Of A Vidic

HigginsJ wrote: »

It was a joke reference to the Pats.

Yet unsurprisingly, some still couldn't resist the oul snipe.

tripperman

OAOB wrote: »

Chargers won't win the Nov vote and don't think anyone believes they can.

They will inevitably go to LA but don't know why they'd move to the Colliseum, they'd be better off waiting in SD until the new stadium is ready

Reportedly AJ Spanos in an interview with kevin Acee said NFL doesn't want two team's in LA, so there maybe more of chance of a new stadium in San Diego then previously thought, some people are thinking that Stan Kronke might even pay the Spanos family to keep them out of the LA market, (just one writers opinion mind) http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2016/9/20/12990540/stadium-theory-are-the-chargers-trying-to-get-money-from-the-rams-to-stay-in-san-diego

Foxtrol

Arrest warrant out for Josh Gordon. Nearly back from suspension and in trouble again.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/09/warrant_issued_for_arrest_of_b.html

eagle eye

Son Of A Vidic wrote: »

Yet unsurprisingly, some still couldn't resist the oul snipe.

I think you didn't get what he said in his post. He was basically saying that if it happened to the Patriots they would have gotten a lot worse punishment.

HigginsJ is a Giants fan and he doesn't get involved in trying to rise fans of other teams. It was just a harmless joke.

eagle eye

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

It's not always about the patriots.

A regular poster and Bears fan. I know this much about you. HigginsJ is a regular poster on here, I would have presumed you would know which regular posters supported what teams.

Billy86 wrote: »

Thats a great example why pats fans get so little sympathy from other fans, actually.

Packers fan who is on here regularly doesn't even know that HigginsJ is a Giants fan. This does not surprise me with this particular poster.

helimachoptor

ap going to miss the season by the looks of it

Son Of A Vidic

eagle eye wrote: »

HigginsJ is a Giants fan and he doesn't get involved in trying to rise fans of other teams. It was just a harmless joke.

Eagle you've misread my post, my comment wasn't directed at the harmless post by HigginsJ. I quoted his post just to highlight that even his little bit of messing, had to be taken in another direction by others.

helimachoptor

OK guys. Let's move on.

helimachoptor

OK guys. Let's move on.

AbusesToilets

helimachoptor wrote: »

ap going to miss the season by the looks of it

Vikings can't catch a break. Talented team being wrecked by injury, real shame.

OldMrBrennan83

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Realt Dearg Sec

Patww79 wrote: »

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Yeah, before his injury the other night he wasn't doing much and looked quite lethargic. Now, he might have gotten going, but either way the offense was anything but a one-dimensional thing. They are a pass-first team whether AP is in or not.

Billy86

Foxtrol wrote: »

Arrest warrant out for Josh Gordon. Nearly back from suspension and in trouble again.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/09/warrant_issued_for_arrest_of_b.html

Benltween him and aldon Smith, two guys with top 5 potential not just in their position, but on their entire side of the ball (ignoring qb positional importance!) will probably never play another down.

And to be honest, I kind of hope they don't. Loved to watch both but there's a point where you're beyond the beyonds in terms of taking the piss.

JaMarcusHustle

I doubt Gordon's latest legal issue will have any impact on him playing. It's a paternity test court case is all.

Paully D

Unsure if anyone else here has been following this, but a NFL radio host who does a bit of work with CBS radio posted up a screenshot on Sunday. Pretty harmless stuff, but Jason La Canfora tweeted it out a very, very short time later (75 seconds apparently) with the same battery, time etc visible and claimed he had received it from an NFL personnel exec. :pac: The original source of the picture says he has metadata on hand to prove that La Canfora swiped it.

Full story below:

http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/benjamin-allbright-says-metadata-shows-cbs-jason-la-canfora-lied-stole-photo.html

JaMarcusHustle

Brilliant Paully. I always roll my eyes when I read these clowns saying they just got texted by an NFL executive or GM. I never believe them. Usually it's their own opinion they want to add some weight to do they attribute it to some made up GM.

helimachoptor

Warmack headed to IR, no great loss imo, fairly sure thats the end of him with the Titans now

TOss Sweep

Paully D wrote: »

Unsure if anyone else here has been following this, but a NFL radio host who does a bit of work with CBS radio posted up a screenshot on Sunday. Pretty harmless stuff, but Jason La Canfora tweeted it out a very, very short time later (75 seconds apparently) with the same battery, time etc visible and claimed he had received it from an NFL personnel exec. :pac: The original source of the picture says he has metadata on hand to prove that La Canfora swiped it.

Full story below:

http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/benjamin-allbright-says-metadata-shows-cbs-jason-la-canfora-lied-stole-photo.html

Check out the only comment on that article:

arandall1982 20 hours ago
Funny thing--I busted Allbright on twitter for lying about his college degrees and got blocked.

The plot thickens.......

Funny thing is they are all as bad as each other.

Paully D

helimachoptor wrote: »

Warmack headed to IR, no great loss imo, fairly sure thats the end of him with the Titans now

Crazy. I thought when you drafted him he'd be an All-Pro for the best part of a decade.

helimachoptor

Paully D wrote: »

Crazy. I thought when you drafted him he'd be an All-Pro for the best part of a decade.

As did a lot.. he played well in pre season and in the 2 games so far (for the most part) but he's be a FA now someone will pay him, I dont think Jrob will be that person though

Billy86

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

I doubt Gordon's latest legal issue will have any impact on him playing. It's a paternity test court case is all.

Oh ok, shouldn't have jumped to conclusions but...

Realt Dearg Sec

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

I doubt Gordon's latest legal issue will have any impact on him playing. It's a paternity test court case is all.

It was just a paternity test. Now it's an arrest warrant for repeated violations of court subpoenas. That can lead to a finding of contempt, which can lead to jail.

Moist Bread

So this Gordon stuff and Corey Coleman breaks his hand. I actually feel sorry for Browns fans - no one deserves this.

JaMarcusHustle

Realt Dearg Sec wrote:

It was just a paternity test. Now it's an arrest warrant for repeated violations of court subpoenas. That can lead to a finding of contempt, which can lead to jail.

He took the test, the warrant has now been withdrawn.

We can go back to waiting for his next weed bust.

madalig12

helimachoptor wrote: »

Warmack headed to IR, no great loss imo, fairly sure thats the end of him with the Titans now

He had his chance!

Foxtrol

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

He took the test, the warrant has now been withdrawn.

We can go back to waiting for his next weed bust.

It could have been a big deal but now that he’s done it he can move on (aside from the child support payments for the next 18 years…)

JaMarcusHustle

Foxtrol wrote:

It could have been a big deal but now that he’s done it he can move on (aside from the child support payments for the next 18 years…)

It wasn't an arrest warrant, it was a bench warrant. An NFL spokesperson already confirmed yesterday it wouldn't impact how status in the league and that was before he took the test.

Magico Gonzalez

Browns have bigger problems than where Gordon's knob has been in fairness..

Foxtrol

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

It wasn't an arrest warrant, it was a bench warrant. An NFL spokesperson already confirmed yesterday it wouldn't impact how status in the league and that was before he took the test.

There’s no way the cops could have someone turn out on TV in front of millions when they had a bench warrant out on them. He would have been arrested or did what the court ordered, he's done the latter so it's fine now.

Realt Dearg Sec

The link above mentioned an arrest warrant, didn't it?

Neil3030

Out of boredom / discontent with the state of the Seahawks O-Line (for yet another year...) I wanted to look at just how much they Seahawks sacrifice on O-Line, relative to other teams. So I did a bit of data scraping, and came up with a couple of interesting findings that may be of interest to all.

Below is a list of the 2016 cap space* allocated to the starting offensive line-men** in the 12 teams who made the playoffs last year:

ARI CAR NE DEN KC HOU PIT CIN GB SEA WAS MIN
LT 5 6 10.3 5.2 6.8 9.5 0.5 8 4 1 10.6 0.6
LG 5.7 0.6 0.6 0.6 0.6 1.5 2.4 4.75 1.5 0.6 5 6.7
C 0.8 11 0.5 0.5 1 0.5 10.5 0.7 0.7 0.9 2.8 1.4
RG 4 0.7 0.4 0.7 0.6 6.1 5.2 8 6.2 1.5 4.8 4
RT 2 2.5 4.7 4 2.4 5.5 4 2.1 5.4 0.6 0.8 3.5
Total 17.5 20.8 16.5 11 11.4 23.1 22.6 23.55 17.8 4.6 24 16.2


figure in millions


The totals per team, and average per positions, look like this:




So as predicted, the Seahawks deploy a miniscule spend on their O-Line compared to every other team in the playoffs from last year, presumably relying on Tom Cable to make up the difference. The average starting O-Line costs 17.4m, vs. their spend of 4.6m. You have to wonder if this saving of ~12m is worth it; I suppose this season will tell a lot, with injuries to Wilson and no more Beastmode to rely on.

Some other points:

- The most expensive O-Line (Redskins - 24m) costs more than 5 times than the cheapest (Seahawks - 4.6m).
- All 12 teams will spend less on their O-Line this year than the Giants will spend on Eli Manning (24.4m).

* according to this site
** according to this site

D9Male

Brilliant, Neil.

Speaking of O-line, two interesting pieces I recently came across.

Interview with Howard Mudd (offensive line coach) on footballoutsiders.com where he talks about Peyton, what makes a good O-line and issues with current coaching and the effect of CBA.

Ranking 1-32 of all NFL O-lines on PFF. What struck me is how many fan bases think their line is below average. Vikings came in average, which surprised me, but most of those listed below Minnesota really suck.

Shedite27

Neil3030 wrote: »

ARI CAR NE DEN KC HOU PIT CIN GB SEA WAS MIN
LT 5 6 10.3 5.2 6.8 9.5 0.5 8 4 1 10.6 0.6
LG 5.7 0.6 0.6 0.6 0.6 1.5 2.4 4.75 1.5 0.6 5 6.7
C 0.8 11 0.5 0.5 1 0.5 10.5 0.7 0.7 0.9 2.8 1.4
RG 4 0.7 0.4 0.7 0.6 6.1 5.2 8 6.2 1.5 4.8 4
RT 2 2.5 4.7 4 2.4 5.5 4 2.1 5.4 0.6 0.8 3.5
Total 17.5 20.8 16.5 11 11.4 23.1 22.6 23.55 17.8 4.6 24 16.2

It's bizarre when ya see some of the differences people playing alongside each other are on..
New England, guy on 10.3m next to a guy on .6m
Carolina a guy on 11m between 2 guys on .5m and .6m

I realize a lot of it is to do with Rookie scale, but it seems very bizarre.

D9Male

Amazing that the Steelers pay so much, can still pay Big Ben and all his toys.

And they can defend competently.

Bateman

Also interesting in the context of Green Bay's offensive struggles. There seems to be an assumption that they'll "click". They might not.

helimachoptor

Off to bed. Hopefully we see some patriots back up QB acrophobia tonight!

Knex*

helimachoptor wrote: »

Off to bed. Hopefully we see some patriots back up QB acrophobia tonight!

I kind of want to see them win, and win easily, just to listen to the media go mad for a few weeks on whether Brady is a system QB or not. Watching the world burn, and all that.

Knex*

Knex. wrote: »

I kind of want to see them win, and win easily, just to listen to the media go mad for a few weeks on whether Brady is a system QB or not. Watching the world burn, and all that.

Well, they did that handily anyway! :pac:

HigginsJ

Knex. wrote: »

I kind of want to see them win, and win easily, just to listen to the media go mad for a few weeks on whether Brady is a system QB or not. Watching the world burn, and all that.

Knex. wrote: »

Well, they did that handily anyway! :pac:

Clearly Brady is a system QB, nothing else!!

On a serious note, what Bellichek and his team have done to start the year is one of the best coaching performances in a very long time. To not have Brady, Gronk, Lewis, losing Garroppolo, missing your OT's for a game and then going 3-0 is beyond belief. If they were fully fit and went 3-0 @Fins, @ Cards and vs Texans then you would say that is a great performance, what they have done really is staggering.

poldebruin

HigginsJ wrote: »

Clearly Brady is a system QB, nothing else!!

Said in jest, but he clearly benefits from being a team that is well coached, develops talent, gameplans brilliantly and executes fantastically well. The Matt Cassell season still defies belief when you look back.

Shedite27

So since 2001, he has a 76% win record. Puts him 3rd in that period for Patriots starting QB's....

1= Jimmy G - 100%
1= Brissett - 100%
3. Brady - 76%
4. Cassell - 66%

poldebruin

Shedite27 wrote: »

So since 2001, he has a 76% win record. Puts him 3rd in that period for Patriots starting QB's....

1= Jimmy G - 100%
1= Brissett - 100%
3. Brady - 76%
4. Cassell - 66%

imagine your team won 3/4 of every game they played for 15 years straight....crazy really. They say it's a coptcat league....why has no other team replicated it?

Knex*

HigginsJ wrote: »

Clearly Brady is a system QB, nothing else!!

On a serious note, what Bellichek and his team have done to start the year is one of the best coaching performances in a very long time. To not have Brady, Gronk, Lewis, losing Garroppolo, missing your OT's for a game and then going 3-0 is beyond belief. If they were fully fit and went 3-0 @Fins, @ Cards and vs Texans then you would say that is a great performance, what they have done really is staggering.

They look superb. Extremely polished and well coached, its like they've gone up another level. I'd be extremely excited if I was a Patriots fan right now. I've no great love for them normally, but I'm enjoying watching them this year.

Hopefully Eli can become 3li in Super Bowl LI and beat the undefeated Pats once more. I'd die from happiness

Hazys

poldebruin wrote: »

Shedite27 wrote: »

So since 2001, he has a 76% win record. Puts him 3rd in that period for Patriots starting QB's....

1= Jimmy G - 100%
1= Brissett - 100%
3. Brady - 76%
4. Cassell - 66%

imagine your team won 3/4 of every game they played for 15 years straight....crazy really. They say it's a coptcat league....why has no other team replicated it?

Crazy alright, even crazier is that the majority of BBs assistants then fail when they get a head coaching job.