Gay Couples.

Sheep Lover

efb wrote: »

Now who is playing the victim?

The gays offending ones sensibilities?

Not me anyway, I couldn't give a fiddlers what I'm called. Been called far worse.

And you're not answering the question either and deflecting badly.

tayto lover

martingriff wrote: »

And it gay people who are creating this threads. Got the facts. Or are you presuming only gay people would create these threads.

I already said that I don't care who starts them, there's too many of them. Boring.

efb

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Not me anyway, I couldn't give a fiddlers what I'm called. Been called far worse.

And you're not answering the question either and deflecting badly.

What question?

bodice ripper

bb1234567 wrote: »

Unless your friend is extremely flamboyant and clearly gay to anyone passing by on the street then I doubt the second case was a homophobic attack, just a drunk asshole looking to fight anyone.

And me? I imagined it too?

bb1234567

Baby Jane wrote: »

Are you serious? He actually uttered the words directly to my friend: "You're a ****ing fagg*t! Say it! Say 'I'm a fagg*t"!
He possibly saw my friend flirting with a guy or kissing with a guy in the bar earlier.

Well then yes it was probably a homophobic attack.
Well yeah its just Ive seen similar words being used in fights/jumpings/attacks on randomers, even some of my friends and sexual orientation didn't play any part in the attacks, my friends aren't gay and don't come across as such either. I see people say ****** a lot in serious fights without literally meaning the other persons gay.

Renegade Mechanic

Sheep Lover wrote: »

And when you criticise this orgy of highly sexualised, frankly obscene, march for gay rights you become a homophobe or gay basher. Weird.

I've spoken to gay people who can't understand why some thing are being made into a massive deal, while other more important (and obviously more difficult to deal with) issues are not.
With regards to your post there, I fear an explanation of your words is necessary before you get rightly lynched..
I'm sure I speak for us both when I say its not that we find their pursuance for rights obscene. It's more what's, for all intents and purposes "shoved into everyone's faces" while they do so, thats at times, extremely difficult to watch.

AnonoBoy

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Not me anyway, I couldn't give a fiddlers what I'm called. Been called far worse.

Please do share.

Baby Jane

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

My point, is moreso that right now, such hostile attitudes are extremely rare here. I disagree with homosexuality in much the same way I dissagreed with Gay Byrne being head of the RSA. In both cases I knew there was sweet f*ck all I could do about it but did that make me do something about it? Of course not. They live their lives, I live mine. Live and let live. They're happy, I'm happy. That's what tolerance is. Not forcing yourself to watch near naked thong strappers on a certain day of the year, or threaten business owners because they refused to serve a gay couple.. This whole thing of people literally stepping over each others necks just to be seen as the most "PC" is sickening.

You and the other person talk about gay people acting the victim, yet ye are the ones acting the victim: upset at gay people having a say and gay people stating if they have been assaulted due to being gay, as if to say "Waaaaah... where's our glory?"
I'm not saying you're homophobic (I think the sheep lover guy is though) but you don't have to watch the thong-wearing lads (I haven't seen them myself?) or any of the pride stuff, and your comment about how you were itching to throw gays off a roof was silly - nobody said *you* are homophobic or going to attack gay people, so why take it as such? It was just said that some folk would, that is why same-sex couples don't tend to hold hands and kiss each other in public. Ireland is far from Russia or Uganda, but gay people still feel it's risky. If it wasn't risky, they wouldn't avoid it. Shur aren't they the attention-seeking ones?

bb1234567

bodice ripper wrote: »

And me? I imagined it too?

Ah..I dunno maybe I just live a very sheltered life. Im gay too and I just can't imagine something like that ever happening me, Ive come across very little in fact no violent hatred towards me or any of my gay friends in my entire life. Just little jabs and people being uncomfortable with it, but no abuse at all, no verbal or physical, no outward hatred at all. But from reading this thread and others Ive obviously been just lucky.

One eyed Jack

efb wrote: »

Relatively talentless? Was that the Irish Catholic review of his sell out shows???

And here was me thinking -

"Ahh Mrs. Brown isn't that bad?" :pac:


But yeah, have to agree about *shudder*, "Panto Bliss", dresses like a conservative 1950's housewife and is about as tolerable as a brain aneurysm :rolleyes:

Mr. Pussy was doing drag 20 years before him and he was fcuking fair funny, same for Kenny Everett when he used do Cupid Stunt, they were sharp, creative, brilliant and top it off - they made people really laugh.

Panto Bliss - "I got wolf whistled at a traffic lights", 600k hits on YouTube.

Conchita Wurst - Knocks everyone's socks off in the Eurovision, 18m hits on YouTube.

I think the figures speak for themselves as to which type of performer people prefer - the person that calls us all a little bit racist, or the person who really inspires people.

crockholm

I don't know how to quantify the amount of gay-bashing that goes on,whether it is increasing or decreasing,but by gum it surely happens......
Many years ago a friend and I were in Tralee when 2 Young lads about 16-17 Went by us holding hands,my friend enquired "Should we beat them up ?". A strange way of thinking,but alas,not confined to the past,

A few weeks back,I was in the car,parked up,near the end of my lunch break and I saw two men holding hands being taunted and getting kicked up the arse by 4 somali youths, it didnt last too long as one of the gay lads was (presumably) Calling the cops.

bb1234567

efb wrote: »

Using homophobic language???

Have you never heard random scumbags call any ol' guy on the street a ****** without actually meaning he's gay? A lot of people use it as a generally offensive word like cnut or bast4rd

newmug

Baby Jane wrote: »

Yeh, there's a couple of "It's pushing the gay agenda, it's gays being melodramatic" etc comments here.

Eh... the threads aren't being started by "the gays" so it would seem the obsession is among hetero people.

Well look who started it - then look what s/he said below:

kneemos wrote: »

Stop reading the bloody things.

Zippie84 wrote: »

*cough cough* in comparison with normal couples?

Yes. Whether you like it or not, homosexuality is not the norm. Get over it.

bodice ripper

bb1234567 wrote: »

Ah..I dunno maybe I just live a very sheltered life. Im gay too and I just can't imagine something like that ever happening me, Ive come across very little in fact no violent hatred towards me or any of my gay friends in my entire life. Just little jabs and people being uncomfortable with it, but no abuse at all, no verbal or physical, no outward hatred at all. But from reading this thread and others Ive obviously been just lucky.

It's a while since I was a teenager. Things seem to have improved. But i still wouldn't be publicly affectionate with another woman. There is always some jerk thinking it's great craic to start shouting **** at you.

efb

bb1234567 wrote: »

Have you never heard random scumbags call any ol' guy on the street a ****** without actually meaning he's gay? A lot of people use it as a generally offensive word like cnut or bast4rd

Do using derogatory language to gay people isn't verbal gay abuse... Ok

AnonoBoy

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Panto Bliss - "I got wolf whistled at a traffic lights", 600k hits on YouTube.

Conchita Wurst - Knocks everyone's socks off in the Eurovision, 18m hits on YouTube.

And of course since we're measuring worth by Youtube hits they both bow down to this master who teaches us all so much about not only what it means to be human but also what it means to love, live and to be loved each and every day. Someone whose videos will live on long after all of us are but a distant memory.

72 million views. That's 72 million lives changed forever....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjVKYzy4ek8

Lapin

bb1234567 wrote: »

Id bet my arm its 99% straight people who make these threads

Why don't we just ask the OP ?


Hey Kneemos, are you an Arthur or a Martha ?

Renegade Mechanic

Baby Jane wrote: »

You and the other person talk about gay people acting the victim, yet ye are the ones acting the victim: upset at gay people having a say and gay people stating if they have been assaulted due to being gay, as if to say "Waaaaah... where's our glory?"
I'm not saying you're homophobic (I think the sheep lover guy is though) but you don't have to watch the thong-wearing lads (I haven't seen them myself?) or any of the pride stuff, and your comment about how you were itching to throw gays off a roof was silly - nobody said *you* are homophobic or going to attack gay people, so why take it as such? It was just said that some folk would, that is why same-sex couples don't tend to hold hands and kiss each other in public. Ireland is far from Russia or Uganda, but gay people still feel it's risky. If it wasn't risky, they wouldn't avoid it. Shur aren't they the attention-seeking ones?

You've had to dig pretty deeple there to be able to suggest either of us are either A: upset at gay people having a say or B: playing a victim in any way, shape or form. My initial comment was supposed to be silly. To match the idea that you are automatically killed and eaten the moment your hand touches another mans. Over here, you get a slap for being obviously gay in front of the wrong people - of which there are very few now. Over there, you're executed more or less on the spot by the nearest hundred or so savages.

AlanS181824

I've only ever seen a few here in Carlow but when I was in Berlin a few months ago they were everywhere, it didn't seem weird either and they just happily went about their business.

newmug

Baby Jane wrote: »

You and the other person talk about gay people acting the victim, yet ye are the ones acting the victim: upset at gay people having a say and gay people stating if they have been assaulted due to being gay, as if to say "Waaaaah... where's our glory?"
I'm not saying you're homophobic (I think the sheep lover guy is though) but you don't have to watch the thong-wearing lads (I haven't seen them myself?) or any of the pride stuff, and your comment about how you were itching to throw gays off a roof was silly - nobody said *you* are homophobic or going to attack gay people, so why take it as such? It was just said that some folk would, that is why same-sex couples don't tend to hold hands and kiss each other in public. Ireland is far from Russia or Uganda, but gay people still feel it's risky. If it wasn't risky, they wouldn't avoid it. Shur aren't they the attention-seeking ones?

That's a well put post baby jane, but unfortunately *anybody* who questions this whole uprise in gay popularity, or who professes that they're uncomfortable with homosexuality, instantly becomes lynched. The tables have well-and-truly turned. I know of a fella who got beat up because he didn't vote for David Norris to become president! WTF like? By straight people too. And he didn't vote for him because he preferred Martin McGuinness. No other reason! Scum are indiscriminate about who they attack. If I got beat up, they'd probably be calling me a fat cnut while kicking me in the chest. Doesn't mean I would then see all skinny people as fat-o-phobic.


Look up the scene in Perriers Bounty where Brendan Gleeson finds out one of his men is gay. There's a lot of that going on, especially on boards!

kneemos

Lapin wrote: »

Why don't we just ask the OP ?


Hey Kneemos, are you an Arthur or a Martha ?

Really fond of a penis.


























My own though.

AnonoBoy

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Over here, you get a slap for being obviously gay in front of the wrong people - of which there are very few now. Over there, you're executed more or less on the spot by the nearest hundred or so savages.

Nobody is saying that gay people are worse off here than say in Uganda.

But saying that you "get a slap" as if that's all that happens is downplaying what can and does happen.

Look at those two gay girls in Limerick who were beaten by guys recently. One of them was knocked unconscious. Is that the sort of thing that people should downplay?

bodice ripper

newmug wrote: »

That's a well put post baby jane, but unfortunately *anybody* who questions this whole uprise in gay popularity, or who professes that they're uncomfortable with homosexuality, instantly becomes lynched. The tables have well-and-truly turned. I know of a fella who got beat up because he didn't vote for David Norris to become president! WTF like? By straight people too. And he didn't vote for him because he preferred Martin McGuinness. No other reason!


Look up the scene in Perriers Bounty where Brendan Gleeson finds out one of his men is gay. There's a lot of that going on, especially on boards!

Where are these posts? There's always posts bemoaning these lynchings, but never referencing actual posts.

Sheep Lover

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Nobody is saying that gay people are worse off here than say in Uganda.

But saying that you "get a slap" as if that's all that happens is downplaying what can and does happen.

Look at those two gay girls in Limerick who were beaten by guys recently. One of them was knocked unconscious. Is that the sort of thing that people should downplay?

How many non homosexuals were assaulted over the weekend?

GotTheTshirt

I hope I see the day in my lifetime that gay couples can hold hands and show affection in public and it not be a big deal.

That day will inevitably come but I'd guess we're at the very least one generation away.

efb

Sheep Lover wrote: »

How many non homosexuals were assaulted over the weekend?

What question didn't I answer? You called me on it earlier?

Sheep Lover

efb wrote: »

What question didn't I answer? You called me on it earlier?

How many non homosexuals were assaulted over the weekend?

AnonoBoy

Sheep Lover wrote: »

How many non homosexuals were assaulted over the weekend?

Loads. For a variety of reasons. I went out and assaulted a few myself just to keep the numbers up. Wouldn't want them gays to get more assaults than the straights would we? I hoe you're keeping up your quota too.

Let's keep the straight bashing going guys! Come on! WE CAN DO THIS!

:rolleyes:

















You seem immune to logic so I'm trying extreme sarcasm. Would it help you to know that I'm imagining all your posts being read aloud by an extremely camp man with a highly effeminate voice?

Sheep Lover

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Loads. For a variety of reasons. I went out and assaulted a few myself just to keep the numbers up. Wouldn't want them gays to get more assaults than the straights would we? I hoe you're keeping up your quota too.

Let's keep the straight bashing going guys! Come on! WE CAN DO THIS!

:rolleyes:

Maybe some gingers got beat up!?

We should definitely have a gingers rights march.

crockholm

GotTheTshirt wrote: »

I hope I see the day in my lifetime that gay couples can hold hands and show affection in public and it not be a big deal.

That day will inevitably come but I'd guess we're at the very least one generation away.

I would agree with that,partially from an equality standpoint,but really more as a way to finally cancel those daft pride parades:pac:

efb

Sheep Lover wrote: »

How many non homosexuals were assaulted over the weekend?

When did you ask that of Me?

For being I. A heterosexual. Couple?

Renegade Mechanic

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Nobody is saying that gay people are worse off here than say in Uganda.

But saying that you "get a slap" as if that's all that happens is downplaying what can and does happen.

Look at those two gay girls in Limerick who were beaten by guys recently. One of them was knocked unconscious. Is that the sort of thing that people should downplay?

"Get a slap" was a poor choice of words, ill admit. I meant beaten up, though Its culchie talk for everything from a plain slap to being knocked down by a car
Tbh I'm still not sure what to make of EFB comparison to the plight black people came from. To the best of my knowledge, gays werent systematically rounded up like animals and brutally run into the ground (quite literally) as slaves, owned as disposal objects, used as human sheilds in conflicts, denied even the most basic of human rights from the moment Whitey discovered them to about 60 years ago..

For someone to hide their sexuality isn't fair, but it's at least an option. For someone to hid their skin colour, rather wasn't.

AnonoBoy

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Maybe some gingers got beat up!?

We should definitely have a gingers rights march.

Bless. You're trying so hard but you're just not that good at it.

Thanks for playing though.




By the way - International Men's Day is Nov 19th? I'm sure you were wondering.

BetterThanThou

As a homosexual man, I am also getting bored of these threads about gay people. But, anyway, I'm personally very selective about where I'm willing to display my affection to another man. It's really pretty much limited to at home and in night clubs. At the risk of generalizing, I find younger people, the type that would be in a nightclub, would pretty much unanimously support gay rights. Whereas older people, who may have been brought up to think gay people are bad, are unlikely to be in a nightclub. I'm not saying all older people disagree with gay rights, I'm not even saying the majority of them do, but with older people, there's definitely a much larger chance of being ridiculed, and I feel with younger people, that chance is virtually non-existent. Although that said, my public displays of affection would be quite minimal, there's nothing worse than 2 people in a nightclub pretty much acting out a softcore porno right in public.

One eyed Jack

AnonoBoy wrote: »

And of course since we're measuring worth by Youtube hits they both bow down to this master who teaches us all so much about not only what it means to be human but also what it means to love, live and to be loved each and every day. Someone whose videos will live on long after all of us are but a distant memory.

72 million views. That's 72 million lives changed forever....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjVKYzy4ek8

Fcuking hell man, what did I ever do to you? :pac:


You kinda missed my point, but we're not gonna fall out over it

efb

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

"Get a slap" was a poor choice of words, ill admit. I meant beaten up, though Its culchie talk for everything from a plain slap to being knocked down by a car
Tbh I'm still not sure what to make of EFB comparison to the plight black people came from. To the best of my knowledge, gays werent systematically rounded up like animals and brutally run into the ground (quite literally) as slaves, owned as disposal objects, used as human sheilds in conflicts, denied even the most basic of human rights from the moment Whitey discovered them to about 60 years ago..

For someone to hide their sexuality isn't fair, but it's at least an option. For someone to hid their skin colour, rather wasn't.

It was saying would you have an issue if they refused a black couple?


Ard you saying yes- because they suffered more?

I made no reference to to the relative hardship endured

bodice ripper

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Maybe some gingers got beat up!?

We should definitely have a gingers rights march.

Go for it. See if you garner any support. I have some gingers in my family, perhaps I can add this to the extensive list of minority interest marches I regularly attend.

shruikan2553

Out of all the threads about gay people this is the weirdest. Some people are really struggling with the idea that people can be targeted because they are part of a group.

Those farmers in Zimbabwe werent having their land taken away from them for being white either Im sure.

AnonoBoy

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Fcuking hell man, what did I ever do to you? :pac:

I feel bad. I watched the video.

I f*cking hate that little sh*t.

So f*cking much.


:mad:




I apologise.

Conchita Wurst's beard is too well kept. I'm a Panti man myself. *wink*

Sheep Lover

bodice ripper wrote: »

Go for it. See if you garner any support. I have some gingers in my family, perhaps I can add this to the extensive list of minority interest marches I regularly attend.

Fair play. What about the people who got beat up due to wearing the wrong football jersey?

Will we have a Liverpool fans rights march too?

BBJBIG

Dere were no sheks in Oireland befour Taaaaeeeeeee Veeeeeeeeee ....

Baby Jane

Yes, Liverpool fans have experienced the same discrimination gay people have down through the years.
They should have a march.

(This stuff is incredible - anyone else find this stuff incredible? It's actually someone getting upset that prejudice against gay people is being acknowledged. Comedy gold that you could not make up).

newmug

bodice ripper wrote: »

Where are these posts? There's always posts bemoaning these lynchings, but never referencing actual posts.

Here's a whole thread full of them. The first post complains about inappropriate sexualised behaviour on a kids show. The person doing the offending was gay. A litany of posts follow, supporting this mans behaviour, purely because he was gay. To Boards.ie's credit, note the amount of red cards handed out for calling the OP a homophobe. See for yourself:


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=93151605

shruikan2553

Baby Jane wrote: »

Yes, Liverpool fans have experienced the same discrimination gay people have down through the years.
They should have a march.

(This stuff is incredible - anyone else find this stuff incredible? It's actually someone getting upset that prejudice against gay people is being acknowledged. Comedy gold that you could make up).

They dont seem to understand that most people view attacking others as bad.

bodice ripper

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Fair play. What about the people who got beat up due to wearing the wrong football jersey?

Will we have a Liverpool fans rights march too?

Again, if you can find a group of Liverpool fans who feel they have been targeted unfairly throughout life, then by all means call their plight to the public's attention.

shruikan2553

newmug wrote: »

Here's a whole thread full of them. The first post complains about inappropriate sexualised behaviour on a kids show. The person doing the offending was gay. A litany of posts follow, supporting this mans behaviour, purely because he was gay. To Boards.ie's credit, note the amount of red cards handed out for calling the OP a homophobe. See for yourself:


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=93151605

The OP just happens to be you, a person with hardly the most positive posting history when it comes to people you view as not normal.

AnonoBoy

shruikan2553 wrote: »

They dont seem to understand that most people view attacking others as bad.

"We can't do anything about attacks on gay people until all the attacks on straight people have been sorted out, ok?

It's obvious.

Also there's the economy and that whole ISIS thing that's going on.

So as soon as that's all sorted we'll come back to your little gay problems and sort out that one guy who once pushed a gay person in 2007 and tell him he's a bold boy.

Will that keep all you little gay people happy?

Sheeeeshhh! Some people wha?

Bunch of queers!"

bodice ripper

newmug wrote: »

Here's a whole thread full of them. The first post complains about inappropriate sexualised behaviour on a kids show. The person doing the offending was gay. A litany of posts follow, supporting this mans behaviour, purely because he was gay. To Boards.ie's credit, note the amount of red cards handed out for calling the OP a homophobe. See for yourself:


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=93151605

And they were all carded. What's the problem?

If the behaviour being complained in thread isn't happening in that thread, quit moaning about it.

Renegade Mechanic

efb wrote: »

It was saying would you have an issue if they refused a black couple?


Ard you saying yes- because they suffered more?

I made no reference to to the relative hardship endured

But the relative hardship endured will stick to absolutely anything done negatively towards either party. So discrimination against a black person will carry far darker implications than discrimination against a gay person wether anyone wants it to or not. I wouldn't have a problem with it, for the same reason I wouldn't have a problem with a company refusing gays. There's easily another load of companies doing the same thing, that will serve either so go there. Its the other companies loss. Ive been refused things before. Tv3 didn't need to hear about it, I still got what I wanted the same day.

AnonoBoy

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Ive been refused things before. Tv3 didn't need to hear about it, I still got what I wanted the same day.

Were you refused because of your race or sexuality or just because a shop was closed or you didn't have money?

There's, like, y'know, a difference and stuff.