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Ecstasy and Ketamine are currently legal

  • 10-03-2015 1:55pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭


    Due to a High Court ruling this morning, certain drugs are now legal in Ireland. Apparently Ecstasy and Ketamine are among those that are legal due to the loophole. Watch and see how quick the government can pass legislation when it really wants to.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/tds-emergency-laws-drugs-1983239-Mar2015/


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    bajer101 wrote: »
    Due to a High Court ruling this morning, certain drugs are now legal in Ireland. Apparently Ecstasy and Ketamine are among those that are legal due to the loophole. Watch and see how quick the government can pass legislation when it really wants to.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/tds-emergency-laws-drugs-1983239-Mar2015/

    New legislation ready by Friday Monday morning afternoon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    It'll be like a blissed out Purge.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭bajer101


    And crystal meth too!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭wilhelm roentgen


    Only Fools and Horses do Ketamine


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    Any yokes?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Until 11.30 tonight when the Dail sits to pass the new laws.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    The Dáil is sitting late tonight so they can pass emergency legislation to ban the it ASAP.

    The can move when they want to.

    How does this affect those who were caught with the stuff in the past? Surely they're of the hook now?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    Does that mean that we can all trade drugs on boards now ??

    adverts.ie ??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    One more item to add to the grocery list then


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Soooo since 1977 people being arrested and jailed for possession of Ecstasy and Ketamine was unconstitutional. Can any legal types clarify?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭bajer101


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Soooo since 1977 people being arrested and jailed for possession of Ecstasy and Ketamine was unconstitutional. Can any legal types clarify?

    That would seem to be the case - and also anyone convicted for any of the other 100 drugs including benzos and any of the previous "legal-highs". Also, the new emergency legislation won't become law until midnight tomorrow night, so for today and tomorrow, all these drugs are legal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Right, that's it I'm off to the vet... I'm feeling a bit horse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Soooo since 1977 people being arrested and jailed for possession of Ecstasy and Ketamine was unconstitutional. Can any legal types clarify?
    There's no effect on already-finalised cases, including where people are already serving terms of imprisonment.

    The declaration of incompatibility only applies to live cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Listen out for Joe Duffy at 2pm lads. He's going to go spare. Bath salts decriminalized.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    conorh91 wrote: »
    There's no effect on already-finalised cases, including where people are already serving terms of imprisonment.

    The declaration of incompatibility only applies to live cases.

    Handy get out clause for the state. And scant consolation for those who had their freedom taken away over 40 years unconstitutionally.

    Drug laws are a joke.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 449 ✭✭Tearin It Up


    Pass emergency legislation to ban these legal drugs.

    And they wouldn't pass emergency legislation to give us concerts. Concerts that were sold and then cancelled.

    They really don't like people having a good time in any shape or form.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭geosynchronous orbit


    As the politicians are making amendments to this act tonight, then it would a simple matter of removing the words, 'cannabis or cannabis resin' and any section that details these herbs from the act.

    I would urge my fellow boardsies to send an email to your TD to encourage this effort.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    conorh91 wrote: »
    There's no effect on already-finalised cases, including where people are already serving terms of imprisonment.

    The declaration of incompatibility only applies to live cases.


    Where you getting all that jazz from? :confused:

    Once something becomes legal in a country all previous convictions are quashed and prisoners are freed. Just like the movies :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 449 ✭✭Tearin It Up


    Would the chemists stock ketamine. For pain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    And they wouldn't pass emergency legislation to give us concerts. Concerts that were sold and then cancelled.


    of all the backlog of legislation, constitutional and otherwise, be it family planning, adoption, surrogacy, children's rights, residency rights, upwards only rents and so on and so fourth,....... and your best comparison is a has been county and western concert :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭geosynchronous orbit


    Would the chemists stock ketamine. For pain.

    Only if your name was Red Rum and you had a man on your back shouting giddy'up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    Would the chemists stock ketamine. For pain.

    Yes, just pretend you're a horse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    Amazing how quick the government can move when they want to. If this was a serious issue the cu nts would be nowhere to be found hiding behind their PR people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭NinjaTruncs


    Would the chemists stock ketamine. For pain.

    You may need to see a vet for that pain.

    4.3kWp South facing PV System. South Dublin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Where you getting all that jazz from? :confused:

    Once something becomes legal in a country all previous convictions are quashed and prisoners are freed. Just like the movies :)
    :pac:

    A v Governor of Arbour Hill Prison [2006] 4 I.R. 88
    People (DPP) v Cunningham [2012] IECCA 64

    No retrospective effect for cases that have been finalized. The drug pushers can sit tight in their cells.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    The champagne socialist won't be happy on RTE radio 1 at 2pm folks


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Govt can draft and pass emergency legislation for this but not for the 100,000+ people languishing on social housing lists etc etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,411 ✭✭✭Melodeon


    Problem: knee-jerk legislation found to be unconstitutional.
    Solution: more knee-jerk legislation.

    Hmmm... colour me sceptical.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    All return flights to Amsterdam have just sold out.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 449 ✭✭Tearin It Up


    You may need to see a vet for that pain.

    At least I'll get somewhere with a vet. If only they can prescribe to humans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Amazing how quick the government can move when they want to. If this was a serious issue the cu nts would be nowhere to be found hiding behind their PR people.

    Yep, they definitelt shouldnt debate or examine important issues, just take whatever the next healy rae type rocks up to the dail with at face value and push it through within a couple of hours of first hearing about its existence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    AH Beers/Drugfest anyone??😄😄😄


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 449 ✭✭Tearin It Up


    of all the backlog of legislation, constitutional and otherwise, be it family planning, adoption, surrogacy, children's rights, residency rights, upwards only rents and so on and so fourth,....... and your best comparison is a has been county and western concert :-)

    OK, sorry. Still not over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,729 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    It's amazing how fast they can push through legislation when they need/want to!!

    yet other 'important' laws can take years/decades to implement!


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Some of the responses in this thread are ridiculous, well most of them actually.

    If there is a need to pass emerency legislation to stop the sale of these drugs then it should be done as quick as possible, which it is being.

    By the sounds of people here most of you would be happy to see every convicted drug dealer in our jails go free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    5starpool wrote: »
    Some of the responses in this thread are ridiculous, well most of them actually.

    If there is a need to pass emerency legislation to stop the sale of these drugs then it should be done as quick as possible, which it is being.

    By the sounds of people here most of you would be happy to see every convicted drug dealer in our jails go free.
    People are just having a laugh. It's an absurd situation in fairness.

    You'll always get a few extremists who think all drugs should be legalized. I wouldn't mind them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    5starpool wrote: »
    Some of the responses in this thread are ridiculous, well most of them actually.

    If there is a need to pass emerency legislation to stop the sale of these drugs then it should be done as quick as possible, which it is being.

    By the sounds of people here most of you would be happy to see every convicted drug dealer in our jails go free.

    Not that I believe there is many convicted drug dealers, because our justice is soft, but the reason there is so many gangland drug dealing scum is because these things are illegal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,603 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I guess I picked the wrong week to give up ... pretty much all the drugs...

    looks-like-i-picked-the-wrong-week-to-quit-drinking.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    conorh91 wrote: »
    :pac:

    A v Governor of Arbour Hill Prison [2006] 4 I.R. 88
    People (DPP) v Cunningham [2012] IECCA 64

    No retrospective effect for cases that have been finalized. The drug pushers can sit tight in their cells.

    So you're saying uncle jimmy won't be home for Christmas? :(:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    OK, sorry. Still not over it.

    my comment was mean in jest, thanks for accepting it as such :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    So you're saying uncle jimmy won't be home for Christmas? :(:(
    No to Uncle Jimmy for Christmas but you will have plenty of Ice...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,279 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    So can we talk openly about MDMA on boards now? Me and my friend and currently in the process of stoking up. Anybody know where I can get a conclusive list of all the drug that are legal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    Jesus, if the scobeys get themselves organised then dollymount could see the biggest rave ever known to man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Schwiiing


    5starpool wrote: »
    Some of the responses in this thread are ridiculous, well most of them actually.

    If there is a need to pass emerency legislation to stop the sale of these drugs then it should be done as quick as possible, which it is being.

    By the sounds of people here most of you would be happy to see every convicted drug dealer in our jails go free.

    Threads like this tend to draw out the scummers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    5starpool wrote: »

    By the sounds of people here most of you would be happy to see every convicted drug dealer in our jails go free.

    Duh! How else are they going to get their drugs while it's still legal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Schwiiing wrote: »
    Threads like this tend to draw out the scummers.

    Morseo those who live in the land of bliss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭geosynchronous orbit


    Schwiiing wrote: »
    Threads like this tend to draw out the scummers.


    Welcome, the post of Supreme Scummer of the Scobe is still available, I think you would make an excellent candidate and if willing to go forward, you will have my full support.


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