Ireland 7s route to Rio

The Lost Sheep

Iker Repulsive Syntax wrote: »

i don't think so it was anyone who applied could get in as far as i know not as sure about Limerick but colaiste choilm in particular has never competed at munster cup level and i wouldn't say clonmel or the east cork team would be to serious a team either. i know christians,pres, rockwell where there but its nice to have some munster quality players there as well and unfortunately the way the club system is denied schools players there is little chance of that bar the odd outlier like james cronin in club rugby any more

It was most likely invite only which is why a youths regional development side(u17 grade) competed alongside the 8 biggest schools, High School Clonmel where there is a teacher/development officer who puts a lot of resources into rugby in the school. Don't know so much on Colaiste choilm who I think are cork...
The link you provided is a decade old. The clubs system is denied the schools players who are getting enough rugby in the school or at least that is all they should be denied - schools list panel of 26-28 and the rest are then free to play with the clubs. The clubs being denied any of those players doesn't make the clubs less likely to be produced.

Tighty

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Final repechage tournament will take place in Monaco in June 2016.

mens competition these countries have qualified for Rio:
Brazil, Fiji, South Africa, New Zealand, Great Britain, Argentina, United States, France, Japan, Australia and Kenya

We take on Hong Kong, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Uruguay, Chile, Canada, Mexico, Spain, Russia, Germany, Tonga, Samoa, Zimbabwe, Morocco and Tunisia in the repechage

In the womens competition Brazil, New Zealand, Canada, Australia, Great Britain, Columbia, US, France, South Africa, Fiji Japan have qualified

We take on in the repechage: Argentina, Venezuela, Mexico, Trinidad and Tobago, Russia, Spain, Portugal, Kenya, Tunisia, Zimbabwe, Kazakstan, Hong Kong, China, Samoa and Cook Islands

TLS - where did you hear/read that Monaco was to be the venue for the world repechage event ?

thanks in anticipation

The Lost Sheep

Tighty wrote: »

TLS - where did you hear/read that Monaco was to be the venue for the world repechage event?

thanks in anticipation

Cant remember where I saw it. Think it was a random tweet. Will try find it now.

Tighty

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Cant remember where I saw it. Think it was a random tweet. Will try find it now.

TLS . Monaco was also mentioned on Mustersfans' site as the venue for men's tournament.

The Lost Sheep

Tighty wrote: »

TLS. Monaco was also mentioned on Mustersfans' site as the venue for men's tournament.

I know that but Im fairly sure I saw a tweet confirming It. Hasn't been confirmed but hopefully will soon enough...

Tighty

From IRFU Site

''The Ireland Women's and Men's Sevens squads to take part in the Emirates Airlines Dubai Rugby Sevens have been named.

The Women's side will take part in the first stage of the HSBC Women's Rugby Sevens Series, while the men will play in the Men's Invitational tournament.

The Women's side travel to Dubai as one of the core teams that will participate in the HSBC World Rugby Women's Sevens Series, having qualified alongside Japan at the Ireland Women's Sevens tournament in UCD this summer. They are grouped with USA, Canada and Fiji.

The Men's side will play in the Invitational tournament and will face Belgium 7s and UK side Apache on the opening day.

Speaking ahead of the sides setting out for Dubai, Anthony Eddy, IRFU Director of Rugby Sevens, said: "The Dubai Sevens is the start of a very important number of months for our Sevens teams.

The women have requalified for the World Sevens Series and will be testing themselves against the best teams in the world. They are looking forward to the upcoming challenge of the USA, Canada and Fiji.

Our men's team will also gain valuable experience competing in the tournament as we build towards the Olympic repechage games in 2016".

Ireland Women's Sevens (HSBC Women's World Sevens Dubai, UAE - Thursday, Dec 3 - Friday, Dec 4)

Ashleigh Baxter (Cooke/Ulster)
Megan Williams (St. Mary's/Leinster)
Sene Naoupu (Galwegians/Connacht)
Claire Keohane (UL Bohemians/Munster)
Stacey Flood (Railway Union/Leinster)
Lucy Mulhall (Rathdrum/Leinster) (capt)
Eimear Considine (TID)
Louise Galvin (UL Bohemians/Munster)
Amee-Leigh Crowe (St. Mary's/Munster)
Alison Miller (Portlaoise/Connacht)
Audrey O'Flynn (TID)
Katie Fitzhenry (Blackrock/Leinster)

Ireland Women's Sevens Fixtures

Thursday, December 3:
USA v Ireland, 12.42pm local time / 4.42pm Irish time
Canada v Ireland, 3.16pm local time / 7.16pm Irish time
Fiji v Ireland, 6.35pm local time / 10.35pm Irish time

Friday, December 4:
CUP/BOWL/PLATE PLAYOFF

Ireland Men's Sevens (Emirates Airline International Invitational Men, Dubai, UAE - Friday, Dec 4 - Saturday, Dec 5):

Adam Byrne (UCD/Leinster)
Aaron Cairns (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
Tom Daly (Lansdowne/Leinster) (capt)
Barry Daly (UCD/Leinster)
Dan Goggin (Young Munster / Munster)
Foster Horan (Lansdowne/Leinster)
Terry Kennedy (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
Gearoid Lyons (Young Munster/Munster)
David McGuigan (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
Rory O'Loughlin (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
Nick Timoney (Queen's University/Ulster)
Steve Toal-Lennon (St.Mary's/Leinster)

Ireland Men's Sevens Fixtures:

Friday, December 4:
Belgium Rugby 7s v Ireland, 1.00pm local time / 5.00pm Irish time
Apache v Ireland, 4.00pm local time / 8.00pm Irish time
BYE

Saturday, December 5:
CUP/BOWL/PLATE PLAYOFF''

Stainalert

Not exactly the strongest sevens team the men could put out

Tighty wrote: »

From IRFU Site

''The Ireland Women's and Men's Sevens squads to take part in the Emirates Airlines Dubai Rugby Sevens have been named.

The Women's side will take part in the first stage of the HSBC Women's Rugby Sevens Series, while the men will play in the Men's Invitational tournament.

The Women's side travel to Dubai as one of the core teams that will participate in the HSBC World Rugby Women's Sevens Series, having qualified alongside Japan at the Ireland Women's Sevens tournament in UCD this summer. They are grouped with USA, Canada and Fiji.

The Men's side will play in the Invitational tournament and will face Belgium 7s and UK side Apache on the opening day.

Speaking ahead of the sides setting out for Dubai, Anthony Eddy, IRFU Director of Rugby Sevens, said: "The Dubai Sevens is the start of a very important number of months for our Sevens teams.

The women have requalified for the World Sevens Series and will be testing themselves against the best teams in the world. They are looking forward to the upcoming challenge of the USA, Canada and Fiji.

Our men's team will also gain valuable experience competing in the tournament as we build towards the Olympic repechage games in 2016".

Ireland Women's Sevens (HSBC Women's World Sevens Dubai, UAE - Thursday, Dec 3 - Friday, Dec 4)

Ashleigh Baxter (Cooke/Ulster)
Megan Williams (St. Mary's/Leinster)
Sene Naoupu (Galwegians/Connacht)
Claire Keohane (UL Bohemians/Munster)
Stacey Flood (Railway Union/Leinster)
Lucy Mulhall (Rathdrum/Leinster) (capt)
Eimear Considine (TID)
Louise Galvin (UL Bohemians/Munster)
Amee-Leigh Crowe (St. Mary's/Munster)
Alison Miller (Portlaoise/Connacht)
Audrey O'Flynn (TID)
Katie Fitzhenry (Blackrock/Leinster)

Ireland Women's Sevens Fixtures

Thursday, December 3:
USA v Ireland, 12.42pm local time / 4.42pm Irish time
Canada v Ireland, 3.16pm local time / 7.16pm Irish time
Fiji v Ireland, 6.35pm local time / 10.35pm Irish time

Friday, December 4:
CUP/BOWL/PLATE PLAYOFF

Ireland Men's Sevens (Emirates Airline International Invitational Men, Dubai, UAE - Friday, Dec 4 - Saturday, Dec 5):

Adam Byrne (UCD/Leinster)
Aaron Cairns (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
Tom Daly (Lansdowne/Leinster) (capt)
Barry Daly (UCD/Leinster)
Dan Goggin (Young Munster / Munster)
Foster Horan (Lansdowne/Leinster)
Terry Kennedy (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
Gearoid Lyons (Young Munster/Munster)
David McGuigan (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
Rory O'Loughlin (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
Nick Timoney (Queen's University/Ulster)
Steve Toal-Lennon (St.Mary's/Leinster)

Ireland Men's Sevens Fixtures:

Friday, December 4:
Belgium Rugby 7s v Ireland, 1.00pm local time / 5.00pm Irish time
Apache v Ireland, 4.00pm local time / 8.00pm Irish time
BYE

Saturday, December 5:
CUP/BOWL/PLATE PLAYOFF''

irishbucsfan

That's pretty much full strength for our 7s team.

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert wrote: »

Not exactly the strongest sevens team the men could put out

Looking at extending depth of squad. And look at the other sides competing.... Newcastle Wailers, Samurai International RFC, Belgium, The Royals, Canada Maple Leaf, French Development side etc

Stainalert

irishbucsfan wrote: »

That's pretty much full strength for our 7s team.

Disagree Toal Lennon and Kennedy lucky to be in it IMO

Stainalert

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Looking at extending depth of squad. And look at the other sides competing.... Newcastle Wailers, Samurai International RFC, Belgium, The Royals, Canada Maple Leaf, French Development side etc

Fair point

irishbucsfan

Stainalert wrote: »

Disagree Toal Lennon and Kennedy lucky to be in it IMO

Who else is available though? Im not aware of anyone missing out?

The Lost Sheep

Mark Roche to replace Foster Horan in squad for Dubai
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/36341.php#.Vlx5w01i8dU

The Lost Sheep

Womens team beat USA 12-5 in game 1 at the Dubai 7s but lost 17-7 to Canada in game 2
Ireland play Fiji in round 3 this afternoon

The Lost Sheep

Ireland lost 27-10 to Fiji.
Didn't make Cup Quarters and play Brazil tomorrow in Bowl Semi Final

The Lost Sheep

Men beat Belgium 36-0 in game 1 and lost to Apache 19-0 in second game
Women lost 29-7 to Brazil and then lost 30-24 to USA in 11-12 playoff

DDC1990

Ireland Men's seem to have got a Bye in the 3rd match, which puts them through to the Trophy Quarter Finals against Georgia tomorrow.

The Lost Sheep

DDC1990 wrote: »

Ireland Men's seem to have got a Bye in the 3rd match, which puts them through to the Trophy Quarter Finals against Georgia tomorrow.

There was only 3 teams in 3 of the 4 groups and the way comp was set up they used the bye as a 20-0 win for every team in a group with 3 teams

Tighty

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

I know that but Im fairly sure I saw a tweet confirming It. Hasn't been confirmed but hopefully will soon enough...

TLS, It was mentioned in coverage of the Dubai 7's that the Olympic world repechage tournament will take place in Monaco in June 2016.

Due to an unexpected win by Belgium over specialist sevens side Apache , the Ireland mens' team topped their group on tries scored. They now meet Georgia in the Q/F and ,if successful, are likely to meet the Samurai Invitational team in the semis.

The Lost Sheep

Tighty wrote: »

TLS, It was mentioned in coverage of the Dubai 7's that the Olympic world repechage tournament will take place in Monaco in June 2016.

Due to an unexpected win by Belgium over specialist sevens side Apache, the Ireland mens' team topped their group on tries scored. They now meet Georgia in the Q/F and, if successful, are likely to meet the Samurai Invitational team in the semis.

Ok then but it hadn't been confirmed anywhere before this that Monaco was confirmed venue.....

mogwai81

Any idea what time Ireland are playing at?

The Lost Sheep

mogwai81 wrote: »

Any idea what time Ireland are playing at?

Theyre done. Beat French development side 19-10 to finish 3rd overall

The Lost Sheep

This is the tournament we will need to qualify for to really help with getting near world series in coming years. We would need to be promoted from division A to enter this in 2017
2016 Grand Prix Series round 1 in Moscow
France, Spain, Great Britain 1, Russia, Germany, Portugal, Great Britain 2, Belgium, Lithuania, Georgia, Italy, Poland

The Lost Sheep

South Africa despite winning the African championships in womens 7s and therefore earning a spot in the Olympics will not take part in Rio and Kenya will take their automatic spot in Rio while Madagascar take Kenyas spot in the repechage.
Under South African Olympic Committee (SASCOC) rules, teams are not able to qualify by winning continental titles and South Africa will not go to Rio simply by qualifying due to finishing in the top4 of world series.

The Lost Sheep

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

This is the tournament we will need to qualify for to really help with getting near world series in coming years. We would need to be promoted from division A to enter this in 2017
2016 Grand Prix Series round 1 in Moscow
France, Spain, Great Britain 1, Russia, Germany, Portugal, Great Britain 2, Belgium, Lithuania, Georgia, Italy, Poland

Draw has been made for Division A which has been renamed Mens Trophy.
Competition will be played June 11th/12th and we are in the same group as Monaco, Latvia and Isreal.
Other groups are Romania, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Sweden and Ukraine, Moldova, Denmark. Slovenia
This first leg is to be played in Ricany in the Czech Republic and the second leg will be played in Sweden

The Lost Sheep

Mentioned this in Ladies thread but can also post it here. Ladies side play Australia before next rounds of World Series...

http://www.the42.ie/ireland-women-7s-sevens-squad-australia-sao-paulo-2574894-Jan2016/

Kiwi_knock

Women's team playing a 3 game series with Australia during the Sydney 7s, lost the first two games but have looked bright in spots. Moment of both games so far was the great try saving tackle to rob Ireland of a try. Great hit

https://twitter.com/WorldRugby7s/status/696131949480390658

The Lost Sheep

Results of the 3 games Womens side played over the weekend
Australia 26 Ireland 7, Australia 29 Ireland 7, Australia 24 Ireland 0

The Lost Sheep

Results of the 3 games Womens side played over the weekend
Australia 26 Ireland 7, Australia 29 Ireland 7, Australia 24 Ireland 0

irishbucsfan

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Results of the 3 games Womens side played over the weekend
Australia 26 Ireland 7, Australia 29 Ireland 7, Australia 24 Ireland 0

Really hard to find much info on it, for those of us who were unable to watch

The Lost Sheep

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Really hard to find much info on it, for those of us who were unable to watch

Australian union have some info on the games - reports
http://www.rugby.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/1699/ArticleID/17392/Aussie-women-claim-series.aspx

The Lost Sheep

Draws for the various European championships have been made

Women are in the top tier grand prix competition and in the first leg are in the same group as Italy, Russia and Belgium. The other groups are France, Netherlands, Finland, GB 2 and Spain, Ukraine, Portugal, GB1.
The first leg will be played on June 11th

Men are in the second tier and the groups are mentioned in an earlier post of mine...

While we'll have an under 18 team competing in a 7s competition next September in Bucherest.
We are in a group with Romania, Israel and Moldova. The other groups are France, Russia, Poland, Spain and Portugal, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg. This will be played 17th/18th of September.

The Lost Sheep

Ireland W7s are in action today in São Paulo. Live on @WorldRugby
Canada - 14.06
Australia - 16.28
Fiji - 19.34

The Lost Sheep

Ireland lost to Canada 26-7, to Australia 19-5 and to Fiji 15-7
Play Russia in Bowl semi final 3.50pm irish time

The Lost Sheep

Ireland lost to Russia and then Spain to finish 12th.
http://www.irishrugby.ie/ireland/36975.php#.Vs4q002zIdU

We've finished last in each of the 2 rounds so far and are on 2 points as a result in series rankings. Will be very tough task to avoid relegation unless we finish well up the places in the next round or two.

The Lost Sheep

Draw for next round of womens series has been made. Next round, the third of five in total, is not until April 8th/9th and is in Atlanta with the fourth round in Canada the following weekend and the final round is in Clermont on the last weekend in May

In Atlanta we have been drawn with Canada, France and Russia who are 2nd, 4th and 6th in the rankings after the opening 2 rounds. We're 12th

LuckyGent88

Just tuned into the sevens in Vegas. Semi between South Africa and the Aussies was a belter. Very physical game.
Aussies win it on the buzzer.

shotgunmcos

Been an interesting round so far.

What about Quade Cooper, Habana and SBW adding to their respective 7s squads? Would 1 or 2 elites boost Irelands chance in Monaco in June? Or the Women's chances in Dublin?

The Lost Sheep

shotgunmcos wrote: »

Been an interesting round so far.

What about Quade Cooper, Habana and SBW adding to their respective 7s squads? Would 1 or 2 elites boost Irelands chance in Monaco in June? Or the Women's chances in Dublin?

Don't think we'll have any players added. Though if we were who do you think we would?
Don't think women have that great a chance based on their performances in world series so far. Finished bottom in each of the opening rounds....

Kiwi_knock

Some wind during the US and SA match. Habana threw a pass on the half way line and blew over SA's dead ball line.

shotgunmcos

Yeah that wind was mad.

The women's squad is a bunch of rugby newbies learning fast

Something like €2m invested in the 7s game in the last year with a view to possible Rio and probable Tokyo. Surely the IRFU would want a team in Rio though?

Monaco is in June. Season basically over. Any player not travelling to Soldier Field etc may be an option.

Canada 7s this weekend. RBS6N and HSBC7s. I'll have square eyes by Sunday night!

ArmaniJeanss

shotgunmcos wrote: »

Something like €2m invested in the 7s game in the last year with a view to possible Rio and probable Tokyo. Surely the IRFU would want a team in Rio though?

Monaco is in June. Season basically over. Any player not travelling to Soldier Field etc may be an option.

Would a bunch of late call-ups not get slaughtered by Samoans, Russians and Canadians who play 7s all the time?

Also as a general point, if the attitude of the IRFU is actually as Olympic-centric as you suggest ("possible Rio and probable Tokyo") then its probably doomed to failure. Invest in a squad to be competitive in all 7s competitions or else don't bother at all. The standard is too high to be able to cherry pick imo, and we are starting too far behind.

The Lost Sheep

shotgunmcos wrote: »

Yeah that wind was mad.

The women's squad is a bunch of rugby newbies learning fast

Something like €2m invested in the 7s game in the last year with a view to possible Rio and probable Tokyo. Surely the IRFU would want a team in Rio though?

Monaco is in June. Season basically over. Any player not travelling to Soldier Field etc may be an option.

Canada 7s this weekend. RBS6N and HSBC7s. I'll have square eyes by Sunday night!

Considering the world series is during the 15 a side season you were not going to get the best women players playing 7s over 15s.
Of course the IRFU would like teams competing in Rio but that's very unlikely.
Monaco is in June what relevance is the game in Soldier Field? That game is November. We have 3 tests in South Africa in June and I don't see any players being held back from that to play 7s.

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Would a bunch of late call-ups not get slaughtered by Samoans, Russians and Canadians who play 7s all the time?

Also as a general point, if the attitude of the IRFU is actually as Olympic-centric as you suggest ("possible Rio and probable Tokyo") then its probably doomed to failure. Invest in a squad to be competitive in all 7s competitions or else don't bother at all. The standard is too high to be able to cherry pick imo, and we are starting too far behind.

Probably would get well beaten. We wont qualify for Olympics considering there's only 1 spot available.
I doubt IRFU are as Olympic centric as that. The sport being added to Olympics was simply the kick start the IRFU needed to invest in the sport. We have qualified for Division A(now under different name of European Trophy) of the European 7s series and that is in June and we need to win that to qualify for the European grand prix series that has all the European heavy hitters taking part

The Lost Sheep

Training Squad for a Madrid Training Camp with Spanish international side....
Aaron Cairns (Ballynahinch), Jordan Conroy (Tullamore), Barry Daly (UCD/Leinster Academy), Dan Goggin (Young Munster/Munster Academy), Terry Kennedy (St. Mary's College), Ollie Lyons (Shannon/Munster Academy), Gearoid Lyons (Young Munster/Munster Academy), Mick McGrath (Clontarf/Leinster), Harry McNulty (UCD), Mark Roche (Lansdowne), Steve Toal-Lennon (St. Mary's College), Alex Wootton (Garryowen/Munster Academy)

The Lost Sheep

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Training Squad for a Madrid Training Camp with Spanish international side....
Aaron Cairns (Ballynahinch), Jordan Conroy (Tullamore), Barry Daly (UCD/Leinster Academy), Dan Goggin (Young Munster/Munster Academy), Terry Kennedy (St. Mary's College), Ollie Lyons (Shannon/Munster Academy), Gearoid Lyons (Young Munster/Munster Academy), Mick McGrath (Clontarf/Leinster), Harry McNulty (UCD), Mark Roche (Lansdowne), Steve Toal-Lennon (St. Mary's College), Alex Wootton (Garryowen/Munster Academy)

Ireland played 5 games against Spain in this training camp and had 3 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss.

The Lost Sheep

Canada, France, Russia are Irelands group in next round of Womens world series in Atlanta April 8/9

Legalfarmer89

I see That the Mens 7s Squad are in the 2016 Men's Rugby Sevens Final Olympic Qualification Tournament in Monaco. It will be a tough ask given that regular 7s competitors Samoa, Canada and Russia are in it. There are 16 teams in all with teams from Sri Lanka to Mexico. We will most likely get to the knock out stages as I think that even without 7s being a priority that we will be able to beat most teams at it but we dont really have much chance of winning it, if we come up against the 7s specialist like Russia or Canada it will be tough. From what ive seen on the 7s circuit tho Samoa would be favorites for the last qualifying spot by a long way!

I suppose its tournaments like these that get you experience but unless we take part in the world 7s series we haven't a hope in hell of qualifying for the mens 7s competition at the next Olympics in Toyko! I understand if the I.R.F.U has other priorities tho.

The Lost Sheep

Legalfarmer89 wrote: »

I see That the Mens 7s Squad are in the 2016 Men's Rugby Sevens Final Olympic Qualification Tournament in Monaco. It will be a tough ask given that regular 7s competitors Samoa, Canada and Russia are in it. There are 16 teams in all with teams from Sri Lanka to Mexico. We will most likely get to the knock out stages as I think that even without 7s being a priority that we will be able to beat most teams at it but we dont really have much chance of winning it, if we come up against the 7s specialist like Russia or Canada it will be tough. From what ive seen on the 7s circuit tho Samoa would be favorites for the last qualifying spot by a long way!

I suppose its tournaments like these that get you experience but unless we take part in the world 7s series we haven't a hope in hell of qualifying for the mens 7s competition at the next Olympics in Toyko! I understand if the I.R.F.U has other priorities tho.

It will be a very tough task. All depends on the draw and we probably will make the knockouts but we don't have a chance of winning and we need to make world series. To make world series we need more 7s tournaments at domestic level and get regular tournaments for 7s for all age grades. To make world series there needs to be a qualifier that we actually take part in.

The qualifier for the world series is being held, like most years, during the Hong Kong 7s(which is the weekend after next), and we're not taking part in those qualifiers for mens.
These teams are:
Zimbabwe, Hong Kong, Germany, Cayman Islands
Spain, Chile, Papua New Guinea, Mexico
Japan, Tonga, Brazil, Morocco

Kiwi_knock

If I understand the qualification criteria correctly, the first possible year Ireland could take part in the World Sevens Series is 2019. If Ireland do eventually make the Series, it raises interesting questions of whether they will have sevens contracted players complemented by academy and fringe provincial players or just use it as a development side.

Very unlikely to qualify from the tournament but should be looking to be the next best side after Canada, Samoa, and Russia.

The Lost Sheep

3rd round of world series for women this weekend
First irish game is on in half an hour or so against France.
Link to that game is available through world rugby website
http://www.worldrugby.org/womens-sevens-series/stage/1631/match#blog

2nd and 3rd game today are at 8.14pm and 11.20pm