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Neighbours poisoned their cat :(

  • 14-03-2015 1:52pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 7


    So about 6 weeks ago my parents neighbours brought a cat around the cat was a big novelty for a week or so and then they go tired of her. They stopped feeding her and she started to loose condition rapidly so my parents started feeding her along with another neighbour. After short while of feeding her the cat disappeared and we found out why because the neighbour has been bragging about it around the street that they poisoned it because it betrayed them by going elsewhere for food :(

    They also have a dog locked out in the garden 24/7 it has no shelter from what we can see. The dog is so aggressive because of the lack of socialisation.

    I needed to vent about this, I feel so frustrated because we have no proof that they poisoned her so no action can be taken against them :( I cannot understand how they can go to sleep at night knowing what they have done.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,165 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1m1tless


    Report the dog to ispca before he joins the cat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Kerry15


    Neo_Ninja wrote: »
    Report the dog to ispca before he joins the cat.

    They have been reported about the dog in the past but they claimed there was no visable signs of cruelty :( they have the dog locked up a few years like this


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,165 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1m1tless


    Typical! Thats frustrating!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Kerry15 wrote: »
    They have been reported about the dog in the past but they claimed there was no visable signs of cruelty :( they have the dog locked up a few years like this

    It's disgusting and infuriating. As long as they see an enclosure and a food bowl, they can't do anything. Been there, broke the ****ing law to sort it out :mad:
    There really needs to be something done about the criteria under which an animal can be taken from an abusive owner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    Invite her around for dinner then poison her. *Serious*

    Mod: You may be joking, but nevertheless your comment is way out of line and not appropriate to this forum. This is a final warning.
    Thanks,
    DBB


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Fionne


    That's horrific! It never ceases to astound me how some people can be so cruel. Or how, knowing they didn't have the capability to mind a dog, they thought it would be a good idea to get another pet.

    We can just hope that karma comes and bites them on the ass.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Kerry15


    It's disgusting and infuriating. As long as they see an enclosure and a food bowl, they can't do anything. Been there, broke the ****ing law to sort it out :mad:
    There really needs to be something done about the criteria under which an animal can be taken from an abusive owner.


    Other neighbours tried to remove the dog before but he was too aggressive, he eascaped once and went straight to bit somebody, luckily he did'nt. They got him as a pup and hes been locked outside ever since. All they do is scream and shout at him every time the go outside. Its terrible to hear it and its so frustrating because you know your hands are tied and they just give abusing and get away with it.

    The family have a history of animal abuse. The father of the man living next door is known to bury dogs alive when they are of no more use to him (greyhounds that is) and yet they walk around pretending to be respectable members of the community. It makes me sick! <:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    That is a disgusting thing to do to an innocent animal and to brag about it makes it even worse. I don't know if you would be interested in pursuing the matter but if yourself and other neighbours can give evidence of his actons and previous behavior to the dog, you may get somewhere with the ISPCA.

    Below is from the ICPCA Legal Handbook.

    Can a person administer poisonous or injurious substances to an animal?


    No, Section 1 (1) (d) of the Protection of Animals Act, 1911, as amended stipulates that “if any person” causes,
    procures or (if the owner) permits the administration of poisonous or injurious drugs or substances to animals, he
    shall be guilty of an offence under this section.

    What are the penalties for administering poison to an animal?

    The penalties are those as set down by Section 1 of the 1911 Act as amended by the Control of Horses Act, 1996.
    The part of Section 1 of 1911 Act dealing with the penalties for cruelty has been amended most recently by the
    Control of Horses Act, 1996, Section 48. On summary conviction of the offence of cruelty, a maximum fine of
    £1,500 may be imposed and a term of imprisonment not exceeding 6 months, or both. On conviction on indictment the
    maximum fine is £10,000 and the maximum term of imprisonment is 2 years and again both may be imposed.
    In certain instances it is possible that Section 3 of the Act of 1911 might also be applicable. Under this section, upon
    conviction of the owner for an offence within the meaning of the Act, the court may, in addition to the imposition of
    any of the punishments mentioned above, deprive that person of his ownership of the animal. Thus if a person
    administered poison to an animal which survived, it could be taken from him. It appears that to make an order under
    this section it would be necessary to show:
    (a) that there is evidence as to a previous conviction of the owner for cruelty, or
    (b) evidence of the character of the owner,
    or;
    (c) that if the animal is left with the owner it is likely to be exposed to danger.
    An order for the destruction of the animal may also be made by the courts under this section if required.


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭RossD12


    Kerry15 wrote: »
    All they do is scream and shout at him every time the go outside. Its terrible to hear it and its so frustrating because you know your hands are tied and they just give abusing and get away with it.

    You should try and voice record them then play it to the ISPCA, then you'll have some proof. Even better if you can see them you can record it on your camera then show it to the ISPCA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭tommy2bad


    Kovu wrote: »
    That is a disgusting thing to do to an innocent animal and to brag about it makes it even worse. I don't know if you would be interested in pursuing the matter but if yourself and other neighbours can give evidence of his actons and previous behavior to the dog, you may get somewhere with the ISPCA.

    Below is from the ICPCA Legal Handbook.

    Might be in the hand book but you have to prove it. That means proving that person A poisoned animal X. Not a hope in he'll!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Kerry15 wrote: »

    The family have a history of animal abuse. The father of the man living next door is known to bury dogs alive when they are of no more use to him (greyhounds that is) and yet they walk around pretending to be respectable members of the community. It makes me sick! <:(

    seriously if thats true it needs to be reported and followed up on because a simple autopsy will verify it if true


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    tommy2bad wrote: »
    Might be in the hand book but you have to prove it. That means proving that person A poisoned animal X. Not a hope in he'll!

    They may not be able to prove about the cat but statements could be enough to get the dog taken off them or even just get a couple of visits to make them buck up a bit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    That's one screwed up person. They need help. If they have any children get on to social services. There's something not right in that house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Kerry15 wrote: »
    Other neighbours tried to remove the dog before but he was too aggressive, he eascaped once and went straight to bit somebody, luckily he did'nt. They got him as a pup and hes been locked outside ever since. All they do is scream and shout at him every time the go outside. Its terrible to hear it and its so frustrating because you know your hands are tied and they just give abusing and get away with it.

    The family have a history of animal abuse. The father of the man living next door is known to bury dogs alive when they are of no more use to him (greyhounds that is) and yet they walk around pretending to be respectable members of the community. It makes me sick! <:(

    As per Kovu, get enough statements from people and something might happen. As for the autopsies, the animals are already dead :(
    A short while back, I got sick of someone neglecting their dog because they were too lazy to care for it. All day in a pen that was barely 7x7 foot and overgrown. It got water when the old water turned green and was fed mabye every second day. But none of this could be proven. And the frustration was multiplied because I'd been in a similar situation before where multiple people were trying, and failing to get an animal removed.

    Long story short, his thankfully quiet (if shaky) dog "escaped" one day while he was off somewhere and was found by a man on a drive (who scanned it to make sure there were no chips) and took it to a shelter because, unfortunately, I wasn't in a situation to care for the poor bugger myself :o
    I like to think they at least fed it to health, if nothing else.


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