Drunken Muppets

BorneTobyWilde

All I want to know is, did they got their pizza.

MarkAnthony

Actually every one going on about Dublin, English lad starts it, English lad gets told, relatively calmly by Irish lad to cop on, English lad lunges, Irish lad smacks him one.

Had the English 'we think a night out is firing 10 pints into ourselves before the pubs close at 11pm' with the resulting effects of being a pissed dickhead we're there, no fight.

People frequently ask me would I move back home (in conversation not go home Mark :P) and I always say I'd move back to Scotland, not England. This is a great example why. Pricks.

dublinstevie

SCUM

holy guacamole

Drunk people in enjoying fighting shocker.

harry Bailey esq

MadDog76 wrote: »

Try listening harder!!

I did,with headphones,and stand corrected,he is indeed a dub.Has a strange look about him though,doesn't look like a native

Zippie84

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Actually every one going on about Dublin, English lad starts it, English lad gets told, relatively calmly by Irish lad to cop on, English lad lunges, Irish lad smacks him one.

I don't even get why it matters where they're from. They're drunken knobheads no matter where they're from, and it's disgusting.

Craptacular

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Couldn't be closer to the centre of Dublin, not a guard in sight.

Dublin gardaí aren't psychic. If they were hanging around the pizza place they'd get slagging for hanging around the pizza place by the same sort of eejit who thinks they can respond to an incident within seconds of it starting.

MarkAnthony

Zippie84 wrote: »

I don't even get why it matters where they're from. They're drunken knobheads no matter where they're from, and it's disgusting.

Because it's the standard MO for a certain section of England night out and nothing to do with people in Dublin. It's very rare to have trouble on a night out in Dublin.

MarkAnthony

Craptacular wrote: »

Dublin gardaí aren't psychic. If they were hanging around the pizza place they'd get slagging for hanging around the pizza place by the same sort of eejit who thinks they can respond to an incident within seconds of it starting.

No they're not, they're also no stupid either and should be patrolling in the centre of town at kicking out.

bb1234567

Craptacular wrote: »

Dublin gardaí aren't psychic. If they were hanging around the pizza place they'd get slagging for hanging around the pizza place by the same sort of eejit who thinks they can respond to an incident within seconds of it starting.

Agreed but to be fair, you rarely see any gardai around the city when on a night out.

LDN_Irish

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Because it's the standard MO for a certain section of England night out and nothing to do with people in Dublin. It's very rare to have trouble on a night out in Dublin.

Absolute nonsense in my experience. I see trouble in town nearly every time I go, I don't often take census forms with me but it sure seems like irish lads kicking the head off each other.

Although, I haven't seen any trouble the last 2 times I've been (2 kids, don't get out much) so maybe that's a thing of the past, but I doubt it.

MarkAnthony

bb1234567 wrote: »

Agreed but to be fair, you rarely see any gardai around the city when on a night out.

So much so that I bet the lads in the shop (workers) didn't even bother to call them.

There's feck all deterrent in Dublin and people wonder why they get a few slaps from bouncers. Compare to Edinburgh, cops on standby, bouncers don't feel the need to take 'preemptive action' and are also under the watch of the local Police.

Craptacular

MarkAnthony wrote: »

No they're not, they're also no stupid either and should be patrolling in the centre of town at kicking out.

This is pointless. Neither of us has a notion where the gardaí were and what they were doing that prevented them appearing in a time that you would find acceptable. They could have been sipping tea in Pearse St or they could have been dealing with some other drunken eejit around the corner. Having a go at them over this is just stupid anti-garda point scoring.

MarkAnthony

LDN_Irish wrote: »

Absolute nonsense in my experience. I see trouble in town nearly every time I go, I don't often take census forms with me but it sure seems like irish lads kicking the head off each other.

Although, I haven't seen any trouble the last 2 times I've been (2 kids, don't get out much) so maybe that's a thing of the past, but I doubt it.

Thats a real shame for you, I live smack bang in central Dublin and rarely have I ever had a problem. In fact the last time I did the only alcohol involved was some beer cans that got knocked on the floor. Generally everyone is simply out for a good time. Yes people are a bit messy and loud, par for the course.

Can't speak for temple bar but what self respecting Dublin person goes out in Temple bar?

You're average night out in an English market/industrial town though... not so much.

Zippie84

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Because it's the standard MO for a certain section of England night out and nothing to do with people in Dublin. It's very rare to have trouble on a night out in Dublin.

Out of interest, what is your source?

MarkAnthony

Craptacular wrote: »

This is pointless. Neither of us has a notion where the gardaí were and what they were doing that prevented them appearing in a time that you would find acceptable. They could have been sipping tea in Pearse St or they could have been dealing with some other drunken eejit around the corner. Having a go at them over this is just stupid anti-garda point scoring.

Go and have a look at my posts in Legal Discussions, I'm far from anti-gardai.

The situation is that they do not sufficiently patrol trouble spots in the city centre. I know this from experience of the other side of this, albeit a few years back at this stage. Take a look around one night near closing, it very rare to see a patrol.

LDN_Irish

I've not much experience outside of London, but the main difference I've noticed is that is that English will not step in to help someone who's being attacked, Ireland seems to have more people willing to step in.

Jut ny experience though, pinch of salt and all that.

MarkAnthony

Zippie84 wrote: »

Out of interest, what is your source?

On English nights out growing up there, going home and going out there.

Dublin, working security (admittedly a few years ago) and being a drunken nuisance myself on many, many nights out.]

To be fair, are their trouble makers in Dublin, yes of course. It doesn't seem to be the cultural norm though. Basically paddy hold his booze better.

Macavity.

Calibos wrote: »

Looking at the vid I would have been 100% defending the Dublin lad only for the fact that he resorted to some head stamps. FFS Lad.

I wouldn't. Total scumbag as well, clearly looking for a scrap.

Zippie84

MarkAnthony wrote: »

On English nights out growing up there, going home and going out there.

Dublin, working security (admittedly a few years ago) and being a drunken nuisance myself on many, many nights out.

Ah, your own personal experience. Grand so. Sounded like it was proven facts that you were saying, rather than opinions and conclusions reached through own experience. Thanks for clarifying.

Lux23

Eutow wrote: »

And she was lying on the ground for ages before he even noticed. The man sitting down near the window was more concerned with filming this kerfuffle than eating his food and getting out of the way. Shows you the lengths people go to to film any old cr@p.

This was what I think is almost worse, that someone would rather film a violent interaction than try and stop it.

MarkAnthony

Zippie84 wrote: »

Ah, your own personal experience. Grand so. Sounded like it was proven facts that you were saying, rather than opinions and conclusions reached through own experience. Thanks for clarifying.

You're welcome Zippee I look forward to reading your peer reviewed footnoted posts; where might I find these? The New Gob****e?

Craptacular

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Go and have a look at my posts in Legal Discussions, I'm far from anti-gardai.

The situation is that they do not sufficiently patrol trouble spots in the city centre. I know this from experience of the other side of this, albeit a few years back at this stage. Take a look around one night near closing, it very rare to see a patrol.

One minute you're saying it's very rare to have trouble on a night out in Dublin and the next you're saying the gardaí don't have enough patrols in trouble spots. If trouble is rare how are there trouble spots?

I've not been out in Dublin in a while but when I worked the doors and drank in the city centre there were usually gardaí walking through Temple Bar and cycling around the city (as well as the standard, pointless, huddle at the GPO). They also monitor the CCTV which covers a lot more area than a couple of uniforms walking the streets.

MadDog76

Zippie84 wrote: »

Ah, your own personal experience. Grand so. Sounded like it was proven facts that you were saying, rather than opinions and conclusions reached through own experience. Thanks for clarifying.

Isn't that the purpose of Boards ......... isn't that what makes up 99% of Boards content

Zippie84

MarkAnthony wrote: »

You're welcome Zippee I look forward to reading your peer reviewed footnoted posts; where might I find these? The New Gob****e?

No need to get smart in my opinion. You'll get no peer reviewed footnoted posts from me, I instead try to take the approach that if something is just my opinion I try to show it as such rather than implying it's fact instead...Tends to work better for me personally when discussing a topic, and so I think I'll try to stick to that.

Zippie84

MadDog76 wrote: »

Isn't that the purpose of Boards ......... isn't that what makes up 99% of Boards content

Of course. Discussing our opinions for sure. But there's a difference between an opinion and a fact, and I think it's better to show that something is opinion / personal experience when discussing it, rather than painting it as a fact.

The response I was giving wasn't related to it being invalid cos it's personal experience conclusion, but to it being different from the implied fact.

MadDog76

Zippie84 wrote: »

No need to get smart in my opinion. You'll get no peer reviewed footnoted posts from me, I instead try to take the approach that if something is just my opinion I try to show it as such rather than implying it's fact instead...Tends to work better for me personally when discussing a topic, and so I think I'll try to stick to that.

Here's some advice for you, always assume it's just an opinion when reading a post on Boards unless otherwise stated and proved :rolleyes:

Zippie84

MadDog76 wrote: »

Here's some advice for you, always assume it's just an opinion when reading a post on Boards unless otherwise stated and proved :rolleyes:

Thanks, but my opinion on that is different, so I'll pass on your advice. :rolleyes:

MadDog76

Zippie84 wrote: »

Of course. Discussing our opinions for sure. But there's a difference between an opinion and a fact, and I think it's better to show that something is opinion / personal experience when discussing it, rather than painting it as a fact.

The response I was giving wasn't related to it being invalid cos it's personal experience conclusion, but to it being different from the implied fact.

I read Mark's posts just like you ......... I didn't see any implication, intentionally or otherwise, that facts were being stated .......... they were presented as opinions and that is how I took them

Fakman87

Say what you want about the English guy but the Irish guy was the one who started pushing, punching and then tried to stamp on the guys head more than once. He caused a lot more trouble than the loud mouth English guy did.

PizzamanIRL

LDN_Irish wrote: »

Feckin brits. Coming over here, shouting at our foreigners.

My laughing turned into a coughing fit from reading this and then I almost choked.

Expect a lawsuit in the coming weeks.

Zippie84

MadDog76 wrote: »

I read Mark's posts just like you ......... I didn't see any implication, intentionally or otherwise, that facts were being stated .......... they were presented as opinions and that is how I took them

Good for you :rolleyes:

MarkAnthony

Craptacular wrote: »

One minute you're saying it's very rare to have trouble on a night out in Dublin and the next you're saying the gardaí don't have enough patrols in trouble spots. If trouble is rare how are there trouble spots?

I've not been out in Dublin in a while but when I worked the doors and drank in the city centre there were usually gardaí walking through Temple Bar and cycling around the city (as well as the standard, pointless, huddle at the GPO). They also monitor the CCTV which covers a lot more area than a couple of uniforms walking the streets.

As I say I can't speak for Temple Bar I never go out there. I tend to go out around Dame Street and Harcourt Street. Rarely do I see a guard there.

Trouble comes in many forms. I'd prefer to see patrols dealing with the lower level antisocial stuff. There doesn't need to be a huge presence but it would be nice to see visible patrols as a deterrent. I take you at your word they're there. I've never noticed them.

It seems that the odd time there is a melee it takes ages for them to turn up. Again for Zippee's benefit I've not done a time and motion study.

MadDog76

Zippie84 wrote: »

Thanks, but my opinion on that is different, so I'll pass on your advice. :rolleyes:

Leading you to need clarification on posts that are quite obvious to the rest of us ....... if you can't speed up then don't expect the rest of us to wait around for you to catch up!

BrianBoru00

SYNOPSIS:
1. Drunk English Moron shouts abuse at staff
2. Drunk Irish Moron shouts abuse at Drunk English Moron
3. Scuffle breaks out between Drunk Irish Moron and Drunk English moron

MadDog76

Fakman87 wrote: »

Say what you want about the English guy but the Irish guy was the one who started pushing, punching and then tried to stamp on the guys head more than once. He caused a lot more trouble than the loud mouth English guy did.

Huh?

Zippie84

MadDog76 wrote: »

Leading you to need clarification on posts that are quite obvious to the rest of us ....... if you can't speed up then don't expect the rest of us to wait around for you to catch up!

So now you're in a position to speak for everyone else... awesome... as well as making generalisations based on a single person, and being disrespectful, smart and patronising...

Yep, this has gone too far... leaving you to it.

Bye all.

(Sorry mods... before you say it, you're right)

Say what you want by drunken Irish, but that was beautifully shot, with a phone no less.

kneemos

Zippie84 wrote: »

So now you're in a position to speak for everyone else... awesome... as well as making generalisations based on a single person, and being disrespectful, smart and patronising...

Yep, this has gone too far... leaving you to it.

Bye all.

(Sorry mods... before you say it, you're right)

LADS!

LADS!


RELAX!!

Tzardine

Deleted User wrote: »

Say what you want by drunken Irish, but that was beautifully shot, with a phone no less.

And in landscape mode and all. I call shenanigans. It must be a movie. Or Denis O Briens fault somehow. Has anybody blamed him yet.

MarkAnthony

kneemos wrote: »

LADS!

LADS!


RELAX!!

THATS MY WOMAN! THATS MY WOMAN!

Macavity.

MadDog76 wrote: »

Huh?

He's the one who started throwing slaps around when there was really no need. Have to laugh at people saying fair play to him. If he hadn't got involved the situation wouldn't have developed at all, but he wanted all that to kick off because he wanted a scrap. When the boyfriend comes out in a rage you can see him buzzing for it again. Pure scumbag just like the two English lads.

MarkAnthony

Macavity. wrote: »

He's the one who started throwing slaps around when there was really no need. Have to laugh at people saying fair play to him. If he hadn't got involved the situation wouldn't have developed at all, but he wanted all that to kick off because he wanted a scrap. When the boyfriend comes out in a rage you can see him buzzing for it again. Pure scumbag just like the two English lads.

Meh, not so sure but I see where you're coming from.

I think he tried to step in - clouded by drink. He didn't actually go for Mr. English until Mr. English lunged at him.

I have to admit I'd like to have seen more people step in and stop him hurling abuse or better yet the point I was trying to make earlier the guards show up and have a word.

P_1

I'm not too sure why he's having a go at the Isish lad for "dropping his woman". Clearly the first English lad was having a go at the chap working in Apache, the Irish lad quite rightly told him to cop the f on, a scuffle developed and the English lad pushed everyone back, resulting in the lady hitting her head. Disgusting kicking his head when he was down though. One of the main reasons I avoid packed takeaways on a night out

NotCominBack

If the pizzas had of come a bit quicker then none of this agro would have been started - ye wouldnt get this in Domino's

MadDog76

Macavity. wrote: »

He's the one who started throwing slaps around when there was really no need. Have to laugh at people saying fair play to him. If he hadn't got involved the situation wouldn't have developed at all, but he wanted all that to kick off because he wanted a scrap. When the boyfriend comes out in a rage you can see him buzzing for it again. Pure scumbag just like the two English lads.

I think you need to watch the video again .......... the Dublin lad was chatting away to the English guy in the white shirt and only intervened when the other English lad asked the little guy behind the counter to "come outside" ......... the Dublin lad said "I'll go outside with ya" obviously calling the English lad out as a bully.
The English lad attempted the first punch to which the Dublin lad said "don't even start" ......... then the fight broke out.

The kicks to the head ........ well everybody has their opinion on that ........ mine is f*** him, he's a bully.

Outside, the Dublin lad put his fists up because the English lad in the white shirt was charging at him so what else was he supposed to do?
If you watch carefully you'll see the Dublin lad change stance and put his hands up in a non-confrontational manner when he realises exactly why (girlfriend on the floor inside) the English lad in white shirt is upset so that whole thing is mis-communication, ie. English lad assumes Dublin lad has knocked his girlfriend out and Dublin lad (knowing he didn't) puts his hands up to say he didn't hit her.

weldoninhio

Apparently the video is 2 years old.

bb1234567

MadDog76 wrote: »

I think you need to watch the video again .......... the Dublin lad was chatting away to the English guy in the white shirt and only intervened when the other English lad asked the little guy behind the counter to "come outside" ......... the Dublin lad said "I'll go outside with ya" obviously calling the English lad out as a bully.
The English lad attempted the first punch to which the Dublin lad said "don't even start" ......... then the fight broke out.

The kicks to the head ........ well everybody has their opinion on that ........ mine is f*** him, he's a bully.

Outside, the Dublin lad put his fists up because the English lad in the white shirt was charging at him so what else was he supposed to do?
If you watch carefully you'll see the Dublin lad change stance and put his hands up in a non-confrontational manner when he realises exactly why (girlfriend on the floor inside) the English lad in white shirt is upset so that whole thing is mis-communication, ie. English lad assumes Dublin lad has knocked his girlfriend out and Dublin lad (knowing he didn't) puts his hands up to say he didn't hit her.

Ohhhh right. I was so confused as to why he raced outside after seeing his girlfriend knocked out, thank you

Macavity.

MadDog76 wrote: »

I think you need to watch the video again .......... the Dublin lad was chatting away to the English guy in the white shirt and only intervened when the other English lad asked the little guy behind the counter to "come outside" ......... the Dublin lad said "I'll go outside with ya" obviously calling the English lad out as a bully.
The English lad attempted the first punch to which the Dublin lad said "don't even start" ......... then the fight broke out.

The kicks to the head ........ well everybody has their opinion on that ........ mine is f*** him, he's a bully.

Outside, the Dublin lad put his fists up because the English lad in the white shirt was charging at him so what else was he supposed to do?
If you watch carefully you'll see the Dublin lad change stance and put his hands up in a non-confrontational manner when he realises exactly why (girlfriend on the floor inside) the English lad in white shirt is upset so that whole thing is mis-communication, ie. English lad assumes Dublin lad has knocked his girlfriend out and Dublin lad (knowing he didn't) puts his hands up to say he didn't hit her.

That's not how I see it at all. "Calling him out as a bully", hardly. He was delighted the opportunity for a fight had presented itself. Outside, he's all go again. Take note of how confrontational he is throughout the video, most people would not act that way unless they were looking for a scrap.

Link in OP seems to have been removed.

Zippie84

weldoninhio wrote: »

Apparently the video is 2 years old.

Not sure, but either way, it seems to have just been uploaded to youtube one day ago.

Noticed though that the link in the original post has now been taken offline...