Clongriffin - Parkedge

gaia_scienza

We got <SNIP > and they did an excellent job, the list was so comprehensive, they really looked at everything. Also easy enough to deal with.
RE the Mosque, I think that in the spot where the Mosque was going to be, they are going to build a nursing home and more residential houses - this is what we were told. Seemingly planning permissions has been granted for these.

gaia_scienza

Ooops I'm new to boards and didn't know you can't make recommendations on the thread. If you want more details of who we picked for our snag list, feel free to pm me.

gitsy606

We've bought a house in Belltree which is due to be ready late May, just looking to see if anybody else bought here and if everything is all going ahead on time and when are the first people moving in.

What are people's opinion on sherry fitz / Gannon , asked a couple of questions and don't seem to be very helpful.

Anybody know the possibility of the builders doing anything for us before we move in eg tiles in the kitchen and leaving the skirting only tacked for wood floors?

Any help or feedback would be much appreciated.

Gumbo

gitsy606 wrote: »

We've bought a house in Belltree which is due to be ready late May, just looking to see if anybody else bought here and if everything is all going ahead on time and when are the first people moving in.

What are people's opinion on sherry fitz / Gannon , asked a couple of questions and don't seem to be very helpful.

Anybody know the possibility of the builders doing anything for us before we move in eg tiles in the kitchen and leaving the skirting only tacked for wood floors?

Any help or feedback would be much appreciated.

The builders seemed to help the buyers in Parkedge a lot so deffo ask them. I'm not seeing any completion certificates for the works just yet so nobody moving in anytime soon.

gitsy606

kceire wrote: »

The builders seemed to help the buyers in Parkedge a lot so deffo ask them. I'm not seeing any completion certificates for the works just yet so nobody moving in anytime soon.

Thanks kceire, might need to take a trip up during the week and speak with someone there as SF and the contact in Gannon have said they cannot do anything.

The end of March was when the first group of houses were supposed to be ready so assume thats not happening.

What's the usual time line from when the completion certificates are lodged and the signing over of the house to the owner? Thanks for your help as just seems as if they are not telling us anything.

Also if anyone from parkedge could let us know what else the builders helped in would be great.

Blinkeyblue

We also bought a house in Belltree. My feeling tells me that they will finish the second phase first or half of it and then release all houses at the same time from the first phase. I'm just hoping for no major delays but I reckon it will take a while unfortunately....

Gumbo

gitsy606 wrote: »

Thanks kceire, might need to take a trip up during the week and speak with someone there as SF and the contact in Gannon have said they cannot do anything.

The end of March was when the first group of houses were supposed to be ready so assume thats not happening.

What's the usual time line from when the completion certificates are lodged and the signing over of the house to the owner? Thanks for your help as just seems as if they are not telling us anything.

Also if anyone from parkedge could let us know what else the builders helped in would be great.

Blinkeyblue wrote: »

We also bought a house in Belltree. My feeling tells me that they will finish the second phase first or half of it and then release all houses at the same time from the first phase. I'm just hoping for no major delays but I reckon it will take a while unfortunately....

Completion certs can only be lodged to Dublin city council when everything is complete, roads, pathways etc once they are lodged and validated they can be sold that day technically.

Just depends on how far the builders go before submitting them, bear in mind the very first 4 houses built under Belltree are complete now a couple of months but they haven't lodged certs for them yet.

moving_out

+1 bought a house in Belltree. SF not very helpful, waited long to get the answers for a few simple questions. Told us that no changes can be made by the builders. We wanted to do bathrooms ourselves. Initially we were told the house would be ready in August, then September, now October. It's quite a concern as the kids have to start school and we currently leave quite far from Clongriffin. Schools are another story, kids are on the waiting lists everywhere. I don't know what happens if they don't get a place anywhere.
Nevertheless, the park and two playgrounds are nice

gitsy606

moving_out wrote: »

+1 bought a house in Belltree. SF not very helpful, waited long to get the answers for a few simple questions. Told us that no changes can be made by the builders. We wanted to do bathrooms ourselves. Initially we were told the house would be ready in August, then September, now October. It's quite a concern as the kids have to start school and we currently leave quite far from Clongriffin. Schools are another story, kids are on the waiting lists everywhere. I don't know what happens if they don't get a place anywhere.
Nevertheless, the park and two playgrounds are nice

Hi moving_out

Are you in the first or second phase,as we were told May/June and they were to be the last of the first phase and we have heard nothing further.

SF are pretty poor to deal with, they always say they'll get back to us for quite simple questions ( the name of the tile in the show house, measurements of the windows ) and just never hear back.

Yeah the park is great Hope you get sorted with the schools!

moving_out

gitsy606 wrote: »

Hi moving_out

Are you in the first or second phase,as we were told May/June and they were to be the last of the first phase and we have heard nothing further.

SF are pretty poor to deal with, they always say they'll get back to us for quite simple questions ( the name of the tile in the show house, measurements of the windows ) and just never hear back.

Yeah the park is great Hope you get sorted with the schools!

2nd phase, the bathroom tiles are from Tile Style in Ballymount. You can see them here (PM me if the link is removed): imgur.com/a/Z0tZQ

Measurement of the windows? We couldn't even get the measurements of the building.
The marketing leaflet was the best source of any technical information.

But the park is great

Gumbo

gitsy606 wrote: »

Hi moving_out

Are you in the first or second phase,as we were told May/June and they were to be the last of the first phase and we have heard nothing further.

SF are pretty poor to deal with, they always say they'll get back to us for quite simple questions ( the name of the tile in the show house, measurements of the windows ) and just never hear back.

Yeah the park is great Hope you get sorted with the schools!

moving_out wrote: »

2nd phase, the bathroom tiles are from Tile Style in Ballymount. You can see them here (PM me if the link is removed): imgur.com/a/Z0tZQ

Measurement of the windows? We couldn't even get the measurements of the building.
The marketing leaflet was the best source of any technical information.

But the park is great

Guys, it's for good reason you don't get the size of the Windows from the builder prior to moving in.
If you go and try order blinds, curtains etc for a window that's slightly different on site then you are screwed and you will blame the builder for,giving the wrong measurement.

Ring the Assigned Certifier on the project and tell them what unit you bought, and ask them if they will oblige sending you some decent drawings of the house for information purposes only.

If you want to PM me the exact house you guys bought, I'll see what I have on them.

freakyfraggle

Hi all,

Same here, I spoke to SF again this week and they are still saying May for completion of the first phase...
Was also told that the builders won't do any extras/changes.

Re the tiles I was told the wet rooms all come tiled (floors too), is that right?

@kceire:
Thanks for your helpful posts.
How would I find out the Assigned Certifier?

Thanks everyone, I think Belltree will be a great place once we have all moved in!

gitsy606

freakyfraggle wrote: »

Hi all,

Same here, I spoke to SF again this week and they are still saying May for completion of the first phase...
Was also told that the builders won't do any extras/changes.

Re the tiles I was told the wet rooms all come tiled (floors too), is that right?

Hi Freakyfraggle

Good to hear, hopefully they are on schedule then

Yes the bathrooms will be tiled, it's the tiles in the kitchen I was looking for.



Thanks kceire , I thought that would be the case and told them it was for just getting an estimate and nothing more, just waiting for the show house to open back up and I could do it myself, , hopefully it will be this weekend, SF haven't responded to say yes or no.

Blinkeyblue

I thought the kitchen would be tiled as well?! They seem to be giving different people different information 🙄

gitsy606

Blinkeyblue wrote: »

I thought the kitchen would be tiled as well?! They seem to be giving different people different information 🙄

Hi ..I think the back splash tile on the wall will be there but the floor tile will not, that's what we were told, also looking at the houses finished already, the floors have not been tiled.

moving_out

freakyfraggle wrote: »

Re the tiles I was told the wet rooms all come tiled (floors too), is that right?

Depending what you mean by tiled. The shower cabins will be tiled (I am not sure about the floors). belltree.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/6206_2697.jpg

Blinkeyblue

SF have told me that all bathrooms floors come fully tiled.

Gumbo

gitsy606 wrote: »

Hi Freakyfraggle

Good to hear, hopefully they are on schedule then

Yes the bathrooms will be tiled, it's the tiles in the kitchen I was looking for.



Thanks kceire , I thought that would be the case and told them it was for just getting an estimate and nothing more, just waiting for the show house to open back up and I could do it myself, , hopefully it will be this weekend, SF haven't responded to say yes or no.

Just be careful with measurements. The show houses are timber framed and the rest are traditional brick and block so there may be some slight differences.

Gumbo

freakyfraggle wrote: »

Hi all,

Same here, I spoke to SF again this week and they are still saying May for completion of the first phase...
Was also told that the builders won't do any extras/changes.

Re the tiles I was told the wet rooms all come tiled (floors too), is that right?

@kceire:
Thanks for your helpful posts.
How would I find out the Assigned Certifier?

Thanks everyone, I think Belltree will be a great place once we have all moved in!

Assigned Certifiers are http://www.cck.ie

Volthar

moving_out wrote:

+1 bought a house in Belltree. SF not very helpful, waited long to get the answers for a few simple questions. Told us that no changes can be made by the builders. We wanted to do bathrooms ourselves. Initially we were told the house would be ready in August, then September, now October. It's quite a concern as the kids have to start school and we currently leave quite far from Clongriffin. Schools are another story, kids are on the waiting lists everywhere. I don't know what happens if they don't get a place anywhere. Nevertheless, the park and two playgrounds are nice

I bought in the previous stage, the Parkedge, and the selling agent was equally unhelpful. Once I signed the contract they turned even worse. Nevertheless I am really happy with the house. There were few issues but (slowly) builders were eliminating these.

Volthar

The previous selling agent, Knight Frank, was equally poor. Could not get basic info off them and eventually resolved to talk to builders on site. My problem was the box room dimensions as from plans it looked like a regular single bed may not fit.

Nanazolie

moving_out wrote: »

+1 bought a house in Belltree. SF not very helpful, waited long to get the answers for a few simple questions. Told us that no changes can be made by the builders. We wanted to do bathrooms ourselves. Initially we were told the house would be ready in August, then September, now October. It's quite a concern as the kids have to start school and we currently leave quite far from Clongriffin. Schools are another story, kids are on the waiting lists everywhere. I don't know what happens if they don't get a place anywhere.
Nevertheless, the park and two playgrounds are nice

You can contact the schools in Donaghmede. It's only slightly further from Belltree than the Belmayne schools. There are 2 primary schools in Donaghmede, and they are good too.

I would also advise anyone who moves to Clongriffin or in its neighbourhood to start contacting local TDs about the need for an extra primary school or at least bigger ones when they start building the permanent schools for St Francis and the Educate Together (building hasn't started yet). There will also need to be a secondary school. The Educate Together has started a campaign to get a new secondary school in the area

freakyfraggle

Hi folks,

Took a trip to the site office today.
Phase 1 still on track to be finished in May according to today's info.

Asked if the skirting can be just tacked instead of glued, but was told this is not possible due to building regs.

Good luck everyone!

Gumbo

freakyfraggle wrote: »

Hi folks,

Took a trip to the site office today.
Phase 1 still on track to be finished in May according to today's info.

Asked if the skirting can be just tacked instead of glued, but was told this is not possible due to building regs.

Good luck everyone!

Skirting has nothing to do with the Building Regulations. The builder just doesn't want to do it to be honest.

The house is fully compliant with building regs with or without the skirting fixed to it.

freakyfraggle

Thanks kceire,

That's what I thought...

gitsy606

The show houses are open this weekend.

Does anybody know what is planned to be built in the current empty space across from the show houses...I have heard small green area and a nursing home.

Volthar

AFAIK nursing home will be between the previous development's 3 storey houses and belltree 3 storey. Then across the current show houses and towards dart there is still valid permission for the mosque with school and so on.

Hollister11

Does anyone know why platform 3 in station is never in use.

Michael D Not Higgins

Hollister11 wrote: »

Does anyone know why platform 3 in station is never in use.

It's likely to be just a passing loop, but you can ask in Train and Rail Systems if you want further details.

chinguetti

gitsy606 wrote: »

The show houses are open this weekend.

Does anybody know what is planned to be built in the current empty space across from the show houses...I have heard small green area and a nursing home.

To the path on the left of the empty space as you face Belltree is the nursing home. To the right was meant to be a small playground but as they've been doing test holes for the last week, I'ld say it will be all houses/apartments. There's a new planning notice gone up as well on the railing recently which will tell you exactly what's going in there.

Suark

Hi guys, have bought a house in Belltree that's due for Sept. I see some people on here saying that that is now looking like Oct. Has SF been in touch with anyone so was that when you contacted them?

Volthar

Suark wrote:

Hi guys, have bought a house in Belltree that's due for Sept. I see some people on here saying that that is now looking like Oct. Has SF been in touch with anyone so was that when you contacted them?

Your best option is to call SF and demand straight answer with a reason for the delay. I had similar experience with the previous stage. Was told we will get the keys in May and ended up closing at the end of July due to 'issues with maps register'.

Gumbo

Some houses on Park Terrace North officially completed and entered into the completion register in Dublin City Council Building Control this week so a few may start getting move in dates soon. They look really well imo.

gitsy606

kceire wrote: »

Some houses on Park Terrace North officially completed and entered into the completion register in Dublin City Council Building Control this week so a few may start getting move in dates soon. They look really well imo.

Thanks kceire..from what you said previously it's usually 3 weeks to get validated from when they go in to the city council, anyone know what the delay was , the original proposed move in date for them homes was Feb/March

Gumbo

gitsy606 wrote: »

Thanks kceire..from what you said previously it's usually 3 weeks to get validated from when they go in to the city council, anyone know what the delay was , the original proposed move in date for them homes was Feb/March

They are already validated. The 3 week period is the allowed time that the council have to approve it to allow for admin check on the submitted paper work (first week). Inspectors to inspect (second week) and then signed off by senior staff (third week). They usually get turned around quicker.

IIRC the delay last time was that the developers underestimated the amount of time to prepare land registry maps and for land registry to process the applications.

Konata

Hi guys,

Went to look at Belltree today and totally love the houses but unfortunately it seems we may have missed the boat here - there is only one house of the 280k price left and since we don't have mortgage approval yet (only beginning the process but have decided to start looking around to get ideas for houses) it's extremely unlikely we'll be in any position to get that house.

So I was wondering if there's any other planned developments near by? Someone mentioned above that the empty area to the side of Belltree towards the DART station might have planning for residential use - any updates on that? I know it'd be yonkers before anything is ready there but... Belltree is really well suited to our needs and I'm devastated we weren't thinking of buying when they first went up for sale!

Anyway, would appreciate any info anyone might have

bittihuduga

i was there too today and also checked out parkside at ballgriffin.
@Konata, did you checkout parkside?
one thing i don't understand is the price difference between parkside and belltree?
why is parkside expensive than belltree

Gumbo

Konata wrote: »

Hi guys,

Went to look at Belltree today and totally love the houses but unfortunately it seems we may have missed the boat here - there is only one house of the 280k price left and since we don't have mortgage approval yet (only beginning the process but have decided to start looking around to get ideas for houses) it's extremely unlikely we'll be in any position to get that house.

So I was wondering if there's any other planned developments near by? Someone mentioned above that the empty area to the side of Belltree towards the DART station might have planning for residential use - any updates on that? I know it'd be yonkers before anything is ready there but... Belltree is really well suited to our needs and I'm devastated we weren't thinking of buying when they first went up for sale!

Anyway, would appreciate any info anyone might have

There are more phases IIRC.
Did you check that all phases are sold out?

Konata

bittihuduga wrote: »

i was there too today and also checked out parkside at ballgriffin.
@Konata, did you checkout parkside?
one thing i don't understand is the price difference between parkside and belltree?
why is parkside expensive than belltree

No, we didn't go to Parkside as I feel it's too far from the DART station.

kceire wrote: »

There are more phases IIRC.
Did you check that all phases are sold out?

The one house (of the 280k price, there are 3/4 of the 330k left but that is a bit above our budget) left is in the section that hasn't even commenced building yet. So presumably that's all the phases right? Three - one is totally finished, the second has started and third is still empty land? I might have understood it incorrectly from reading here but they were very clear there was only one house left, and on the map is way up at the Marrsfield Avenue end.

Since I'm new to all of this, is there any sort of system where you can be put on a waiting list? Since it's a new build and still months before houses would be ready, I'm guessing there's a possibility sales could fall through? As I say though, totally new to this and no idea how likely it would be for that to happen!

Gumbo

Konata wrote: »

No, we didn't go to Parkside as I feel it's too far from the DART station.



The one house (of the 280k price, there are 3/4 of the 330k left but that is a bit above our budget) left is in the section that hasn't even commenced building yet. So presumably that's all the phases right? Three - one is totally finished, the second has started and third is still empty land? I might have understood it incorrectly from reading here but they were very clear there was only one house left, and on the map is way up at the Marrsfield Avenue end.

Since I'm new to all of this, is there any sort of system where you can be put on a waiting list? Since it's a new build and still months before houses would be ready, I'm guessing there's a possibility sales could fall through? As I say though, totally new to this and no idea how likely it would be for that to happen!

Yeah, that sounds like the final phase alright.

Ask the estate agent to keep you notified of any cancellations that you are interested.

gaia_scienza

FYI Gannon recently got planning permission to build 84 new homes in the lands opposite the Centra - I think a mix of sizes including 4 bedrooms. When we were getting our snagging list checked for Parkedge, we asked Gannon what's the next phase and we understood that'll be the next thing they will develop (conversation happened in March).
I am not sure whether they will go with the same agent (in Parkedge they did not use SF), so the best bet would be to try and get in touch with Gannon themselves - probably waiting lists will start once a launch is planned, might be a little early now. But def agree with kcerie that there might be cancellations.
By the way we also looked at Parkside and really loved them, however the developer is different, it's Cairn homes, so perhaps the spec is different, which could explain the price difference. We also didn't go for them as we prefer proximity to the dart. Can't wait till it's all built and more people move in

bittihuduga

i went around the clongriffin dart station in the evening to have a feeling during the dark. it seem fine (sorry had heard its not safe)
how is it in winter? is it ok to walk from dart station to belltree at around 7pm winter evening?

Hollister11

bittihuduga wrote: »

i went around the clongriffin dart station in the evening to have a feeling during the dark. it seem fine (sorry had heard its not safe)
how is it in winter? is it ok to walk from dart station to belltree at around 7pm winter evening?

My mam is always saying that to me. But it's perfectly fine. There's never anything more than 2/3 kids hanging out in the station and it's rare to see. I live in The coast so have to walk down the stairwell everyday. It fine. Nothing has ever happened to me, and I have never heard of anything happening to anyone else.

You would probably have more of a chance of something happening during the summer than the winter, as the kids are off school.

bittihuduga

thanks mate.. incidents can happen summer or winter and also any location. generalising the area is a bit bad i guess.

Hollister11

bittihuduga wrote: »

thanks mate.. incidents can happen summer or winter and also any location. generalising the area is a bit bad i guess.

It does look dodgy, that was my first assumption, but I have been using it everyday for nearly 2 years and nothing has happened so me so I wouldn't be worrying.

gaia_scienza

Before buying we went for a walk around the dart station at 10 in the evening and it was grand. We also asked the guy who owns the off licence if there is trouble around. He said he's been there a few years and nothing ever happened.
Also we have noticed that there is a Gannon car going around the estate to keep an eye. I guess it'll be until the area is fully developed.

Nanazolie

bittihuduga wrote: »

i went around the clongriffin dart station in the evening to have a feeling during the dark. it seem fine (sorry had heard its not safe)
how is it in winter? is it ok to walk from dart station to belltree at around 7pm winter evening?

I live opposite to the station and it's very safe. I frequently walk by in the evening, sometimes late, including in the winter and usually it's just a few kids with their skates.

Dub13

Hollister11 wrote: »

My mam is always saying that to me. But it's perfectly fine. There's never anything more than 2/3 kids hanging out in the station and it's rare to see. I live in The coast so have to walk down the stairwell everyday. It fine. Nothing has ever happened to me, and I have never heard of anything happening to anyone else.

You would probably have more of a chance of something happening during the summer than the winter, as the kids are off school.

Are they ever going to build a road over to the coast..?

Hollister11

Dub13 wrote: »

Are they ever going to build a road over to the coast..?

Hopefully they do, but it's doesn't look likely at the moment.

The unfinished apartment block that was left abandoned on 2007 is finally getting finished. They have been working in it for 6 months, so you never now they might build a road/path.

freakyfraggle

Hi all,

I have been advised that the completion cert for my house in Phase 1 will be lodged at the end of next week.
Taking into account the 3-week period the local authorities have to approve it, that would bring me up to mid-June.
Is it reasonable to assume I could be in by the end of June if we get the snagging done quickly?

Delighted to hear there will be more houses built near the Centra. Better than looking at empty wasteland! And hopefully we will have the critical mass to attract a supermarket etc. to the retail units...