2018 World Cup Qualification

mickmackey1 · 26-03-2017 6:14pm

Ronaldo moved onto 70 goals last night, 4th in the European list now.

The Talking Bread · 26-03-2017 6:16pm

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Ronaldo moved onto 70 goals last night, 4th in the European list now.

Knocks Keane down a place then

Harry Palmr · 26-03-2017 6:20pm

Vardy and Rashford on for Defoe and Sterling

The Talking Bread · 26-03-2017 6:25pm

This is awful. Give me Friday night's war any day. (bar the obvious incident)

Harry Palmr · 26-03-2017 6:25pm

I'm hoping for a Stones/Hart cock up

edit, forget that Vardy from a Lallana assist. Good quick play

Headshot · 26-03-2017 6:51pm

god what an awful match.

Iused2likebusts · 26-03-2017 6:52pm

Both strikers score for england. I felt Rooney shouldn't have been first choice for england the last couple of years but the argument always given is that he is top scorer in qualifying. The likes of Defoe starting and taking pens would have easily matched what Rooney did in the last qualifying campaign .

The Talking Bread · 26-03-2017 6:54pm

Bad result for Khazakstan, be tough for them to even get a playoff spot now.....................................

But on a serious note, what a godawful afternoon of soccer!

Duff · 26-03-2017 6:59pm

Three hours lost this weekend - The clocks going forward and two during that game.

Utopia Parkway · 26-03-2017 7:08pm

Is there anything in football duller than England qualifying for major tournaments? They are always in piss easy groups. Even their fans must be bored by it.

They should be grateful to Steve McClaren that he gave them some excitement in managing not to qualify them for Euro 08.

Ulysses Gaze · 26-03-2017 7:10pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Is there anything in football duller than England qualifying for major tournaments? They are always in piss easy groups. Even their fans must be bored by it.

They should be grateful to Steve McClaren that he gave them some excitement in managing not to qualify them for Euro 08.

That is as much down to the fact that they had a half decent group to get out of.

For once.

The Talking Bread · 26-03-2017 7:13pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Is there anything in football duller than England qualifying for major tournaments? They are always in piss easy groups. Even their fans must be bored by it.

They should be grateful to Steve McClaren that he gave them some excitement in managing not to qualify them for Euro 08.

I imagine that is the main reason fans from England tend to hate international breaks.
At least the vast vast majority of our games are interesting, even if we don't please the so called self titled purists with "good football".

sReq | uTeK · 26-03-2017 7:14pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Both strikers score for england. I felt Rooney shouldn't have been first choice for england the last couple of years but the argument always given is that he is top scorer in qualifying. The likes of Defoe starting and taking pens would have easily matched what Rooney did in the last qualifying campaign .

Yup hindsight and I told ye so. Always a good basis for a factual argument....

Whether they COULD do it is irrelevant, he did do it and that's all that matters and he did it more consistently than those before him, so where you're so confident those after him can do the same is beyond me

Iused2likebusts · 26-03-2017 7:27pm

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Yup hindsight and I told ye so. Always a good basis for a factual argument....

Whether they COULD do it is irrelevant, he did do it and that's all that matters and he did it more consistently than those before him, so where you're so confident those after him can do the same is beyond me

Not really I said it before the euros there are a number of strikers in england that giving the opportunities Rooney was given in qualifying would have produced the returns Rooney delivered. I'm taking about from 2014 on when it was clear to me that Rooney was in decline and was getting picked on reputation. I'm not talking about his england career as a whole as he was clearly the best option they had for the majority of his career. A manager worth his salt wouldn't have had Rooney in the team in the last euros.

Bridge93 · 26-03-2017 7:47pm

The attendance in Scotland is ****e

Berserker · 26-03-2017 7:54pm

Bridge93 wrote: »

The attendance in Scotland is ****e

SFA were offering free buses from the city centre to Hampden to try and encourage fans to go to the game. NI 1-0 against Norway after 90 seconds. Would be a big three points for them.

blueser · 26-03-2017 7:56pm

Bridge93 wrote: »

The attendance in Scotland is ****e

I think they've had it with Strachan, to be honest. Also, Slovenia wouldn't exactly be big box office. Add to them the fact that the Scots really aren't very good at the moment.

The Talking Bread · 26-03-2017 7:57pm

Bridge93 wrote: »

The attendance in Scotland is ****e

From their game the other night..........

https://twitter.com/Scotty_Murray/status/844641893321453568

Jelle1880 · 26-03-2017 8:00pm

Can't believe no Scotland fan took McGhee up on his offer to show up to boo the players.

Berserker · 26-03-2017 8:20pm

NI 2-0 up now. Playing some good football.

davycc · 26-03-2017 8:26pm

Did anyone notice if there was a minutes silence before the ni game in honor of McBride or McGuinness? Hope they had the class to recognize them.

Missed the start of the match myself, can't believe how poor Norway have become

markc91 · 26-03-2017 8:28pm

davycc wrote: »

Did anyone notice if there was a minutes silence before the ni game in honor of McBride or McGuinness? Hope they had the class to recognize them.

Missed the start of the match myself, can't believe how poor Norway have become

Was a mins silence alright for mc bride wasnt paying attention to see if mcguiness was mentioned

Berserker · 26-03-2017 8:31pm

davycc wrote: »

Did anyone notice if there was a minutes silence before the ni game in honor of McBride or McGuinness? Hope they had the class to recognize them.

Missed the start of the match myself, can't believe how poor Norway have become

It was a minutes applause and it was for McBride. It was impeccably observed. No mention of McGuinness. He was an RoI fan, so I doubt that he would have wanted one at an NI game.

davycc · 26-03-2017 9:03pm

Berserker wrote: »

It was a minutes applause and it was for McBride. It was impeccably observed. No mention of McGuinness. He was an RoI fan, so I doubt that he would have wanted one at an NI game.

McGuinness was a republic fan but in the summer he wanted to go go to a few ni group games except foster threw a sectarian fit and would not approve.

I thought in the spirit of sports inclusiveness there should have been a minute silence for martin too!

We had a few at republics games after a couple of ni fans where tragically killed during the tournament.

Looks like respect is only a 1 way street regarding the bigots in the 6 counties

McGrath5 · 26-03-2017 9:43pm

Scotland pulled a 1-0 out of the bag, should keep Strachan in the job to struggle on for a few more months.

noodler · 26-03-2017 9:44pm

McGrath5 wrote: »

Scotland pulled a 1-0 out of the bag, should keep Strachan in the job to struggle on for a few more months.

Massive win, i could see this group being the one that loses out on play-off with worse second place though.

Harry Palmr · 26-03-2017 10:40pm

Hampden Park really is a horrid bowl of a place.

Harry Palmr · 26-03-2017 11:16pm

Danny Blind binned.

Fred Grim takes over!

(you could hardly make this stuff up)

The Talking Bread · 26-03-2017 11:45pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Danny Blind binned.

Fred Grim takes over!

(you could hardly make this stuff up)

An apt name for a manager of The Netherlands at present!

Cake Man · 27-03-2017 4:46am

That's a big result for Scotland, they've given themselves a lifeline and they still have Slovakia (h&a) and Slovenia (h) to come so it's in their own hands although it's hard to see them doing it.

Group E looks interesting, Poland as good as qualified but then you have Montenegro/Denmark on 7pts and Romania/Armenia on 6pts so all to play for there to grab a play off spot.

The Swiss make me laugh, the fcukers seem to romp through qualifying but do fcuk all at the final tournament. 5 wins from 5 so far and are as good as qualified (yes I have an irrational hatred for he Swiss).

citytillidie · 27-03-2017 10:02am

davycc wrote: »

McGuinness was a republic fan but in the summer he wanted to go go to a few ni group games except foster threw a sectarian fit and would not approve.

I thought in the spirit of sports inclusiveness there should have been a minute silence for martin too!

We had a few at republics games after a couple of ni fans where tragically killed during the tournament.

Looks like respect is only a 1 way street regarding the bigots in the 6 counties

Politics should be kept out of football, so good enough to have a minutes applause for Ryan McBride and keep it all football related.

greendom · 27-03-2017 3:24pm

citytillidie wrote: »

Politics should be kept out of football, so good enough to have a minutes applause for Ryan McBride and keep it all football related.

keep politics out of football? Good luck with that. Northern Ireland wouldn't exist as a football team if it weren't for politics.

mickmackey1 · 27-03-2017 3:33pm

greendom wrote: »

keep politics out of football? Good luck with that. Northern Ireland wouldn't exist as a football team if it weren't for politics.

Come to think of it, no national team would exist without politics

The Talking Bread · 27-03-2017 3:39pm

greendom wrote: »

keep politics out of football? Good luck with that. Northern Ireland wouldn't exist as a football team if it weren't for politics.

no country would exist without politics if you want to bring that to the table. It is pretty clear what the poster is trying to say. Martin McGuiness politically affilliated himself to the Republic, sure he ran for presidency only a couple of years ago!. That is why he got the minute applause with the other few figures.

This is not the thread for this discussion. It is a football thread so lets leave it there maybe before it gets out of hand.

The Talking Bread · 27-03-2017 3:41pm

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Come to think of it, no national team would exist without politics

The Talking Bread wrote: »

no country would exist without politics if you want to bring that to the table. f.

great minds and all that jazz!

FatherTed · 28-03-2017 2:18am

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I always thought you pronounced Pulisic like Rakitic, Ibrahomivic, Modric,... :pac:

I saw an interview with his dad and he was asked about it. The commentary is correct - "sick" not the Croatian "sitch".

greendom · 28-03-2017 10:29am

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Come to think of it, no national team would exist without politics

exactly - why do people have an interest in international football? Essentially it's a display of national pride.

We don't have to fight in the trenches any more to show how much we love our country. Just display a flag outside and cheer on the boys in (insert colour here)

Billy86 · 28-03-2017 4:11pm

Messi banned for 4 international games for abusing refs... can only imagine how the reaction would be were it 'someone else'... but let's see if it gets brushed under the carpet and quite soon forgotten about for Little Leo.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39423000

citytillidie · 28-03-2017 9:03pm

Results from this round so far
AFC
Group A
Qatar 0 V 1 Iran
China 1 V 0 South Korea
Syria 1 V 0 Uzbekistan

Uzbekistan 1 V 0 Qatar
South Korea 1 V 0 Syria
Iran 1 V 0 China

Group A Pl W D L F A GD Pts
Iran 7 5 2 0 6 0 6 17
South Korea 7 4 1 2 9 7 2 13
Uzbekistan 7 4 0 3 6 4 2 12
Syria 7 2 2 3 2 3 -1 8
China 7 1 2 4 2 7 -5 5
Qatar 7 1 1 5 3 8 -5 4

Group B
Iraq 1 V 1 Australia
United Arab Emirates 0 V 2 Japan
Thailand 0 V 3 Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia 1 V 0 Iraq
Japan 4 V 0 Thailand
Australia 2 V 0 United Arab Emirates

Group B PL W D L F A GD Pts
Japan 7 5 1 1 14 5 9 16
Saudi Arabia 7 5 1 1 13 5 8 16
Australia 7 3 4 0 11 6 5 13
United Arab Emirates 7 3 0 4 7 10 -3 9
Iraq 7 1 1 5 7 10 -3 4
Thailand 7 0 1 6 3 19 -16 1

CONCACAF
USA 6 V 0 Honduras
Trinidad and Tobago 1 V 0 Panama
Mexico 2 V 0 Costa Rica

Tonight
Panama 1 V 1 USA
Honduras 1 V 1 Costa Rica
Trinidad and Tobago 0 V 1 Mexico

Team Pld W D L F A GD PTS
Mexico 4 3 1 0 5 1 4 10
Costa Rica 4 2 1 1 7 3 4 7
Panama 4 1 2 1 2 2 0 5
USA 4 1 1 2 8 7 1 4
Honduras 4 1 1 2 4 9 -5 4
Trinidad and Tobago 4 1 0 3 2 6 -4 3

CONMEBOL
Colombia 1 V 0 Bolivia
Paraguay 2 V 0 Ecuador
Argentina 1 V 0 Chile
Venezuela 2 V 2 Peru
Uruguay 1 V 4 Brazil

Tonight
Chile 3 V 1 Venezuela
Brazil 3 V 0 Paraguay
Ecuador 0 V 2 Colombia
Bolivia 2 V 0 Argentina
Peru 2 V 1 Uruguay

Team Pld W D L F A GD PTS
Brazil 14 10 3 1 35 10 25 33
Colombia 14 7 3 4 18 15 3 24
Uruguay 14 7 2 5 26 17 9 23
Chile 14 7 2 5 24 19 5 23
Argentina 14 6 4 4 15 14 1 22
Ecuador 14 6 2 6 23 20 3 20
Peru 14 5 3 6 22 23 -1 18
Paraguay 14 5 3 6 13 21 -8 18
Bolivia 14 3 1 10 12 32 -20 10
Venezuela 14 1 3 10 17 34 -17 6

OFC
Group A
Fiji 0 V 2 New Zealand
New Zealand 2 V 0 Fiji

Group A PL W D L F A GD Pts
New Zealand 4 3 1 0 6 0 6 10
New Caledonia 2 0 1 1 0 2 -2 1
Fiji 2 0 0 2 0 4 -4 0

New Zealand through to the Final

Group B
Papua New Guinea 1 V 3 Tahiti

Tomorrow
Tahiti 1 V 2 Papua New Guinea

Team Pld W D L F A GD PTS
Tahiti 4 2 0 2 7 4 3 6
Papua New Guinea 2 1 0 1 3 4 -1 3
Solomon Islands 2 1 0 1 1 3 -2 3

UEFA
Group A
Sweden 4 V 0 Belarus
Bulgaria 2 V 0 Netherlands
Luxembourg 1 V 3 France

Group A PL W D L F A GD Pts
France 5 4 1 0 10 3 7 13
Sweden 5 3 1 1 10 3 7 10
Bulgaria 5 3 0 2 8 10 -2 9
Netherlands 5 2 1 2 8 6 2 7
Belarus 5 0 2 3 2 10 -8 2
Luxembourg 5 0 1 4 6 12 -6 1

Group B
Andorra 0 V 0 Faroe Islands
Switzerland 1 V 0 Latvia
Portugal 3 V 0 Hungary

Group B PL W D L F A GD Pts
Switzerland 5 5 0 0 10 3 7 15
Portugal 5 4 0 1 19 3 16 12
Hungary 5 2 1 2 8 6 2 7
Faroe Islands 5 1 2 2 2 8 -6 5
Latvia 5 1 0 4 2 9 -7 3
Andorra 5 0 1 4 1 13 -12 1

Group C
Azerbaijan 1 V 4 Germany
San Marino 0 V 6 Czech Republic
Northern Ireland 2 V 0 Norway

Group C PL W D L F A GD Pts
Germany 5 5 0 0 20 1 19 15
Northern Ireland 5 3 1 1 10 2 8 10
Azerbaijan 5 2 1 2 3 8 -5 7
Czech Republic 5 2 2 1 8 4 4 8
Norway 5 1 0 4 5 9 -4 3
San Marino 5 0 0 5 1 23 -22 0

Group D
Georgia 1 V 3 Serbia
Austria 2 V 0 Moldova
Ireland 0 V 0 Wales

Group D PL W D L F A GD Pts
Serbia 5 3 2 0 12 6 6 11
Republic of Ireland 5 3 2 0 7 3 4 11
Wales 5 1 4 0 8 4 4 7
Austria 5 2 1 2 8 7 1 7
Georgia 5 0 2 3 4 8 -4 2
Moldova 5 0 1 4 2 13 -11 1

Group E
Armenia 2 V 0 Kazakhstan
Montenegro 1 V 2 Poland
Romania 0 V 0 Denmark

Group E PL W D L F A GD Pts
Poland 5 4 1 0 12 6 6 13
Montenegro 5 2 1 2 10 6 4 7
Denmark 5 2 1 2 7 5 2 7
Romania 5 1 3 1 6 4 2 6
Armenia 5 2 0 3 6 10 -4 6
Kazakhstan 5 0 2 3 3 13 -10 2

Group F
England 2 V 0 Lithuania
Malta 1 V 3 Slovakia
Scotland 1 V 0 Slovenia

Group F PL W D L F A GD Pts
England 5 4 1 0 8 0 8 13
Slovakia 5 3 0 2 10 3 7 9
Slovenia 5 2 2 1 4 3 1 8
Scotland 5 2 1 2 7 8 -1 7
Lithuania 5 1 2 2 5 9 -4 5
Malta 5 0 0 5 2 13 -11 0

Group G
Italy 2 V 0 Albania
Liechtenstein 0 V 3 Macedonia
Spain 4 V 1 Israel

Group G PL W D L F A GD Pts
Spain 5 4 1 0 19 2 17 13
Italy 5 4 1 0 13 4 9 13
Israel 5 3 0 2 9 9 0 9
Albania 5 2 0 3 4 8 -4 6
FYR Macedonia 5 1 0 4 7 11 -4 3
Liechtenstein 5 0 0 5 1 19 -18 0

Group H
Bosina 5 V 0 Gibraltar
Cyprus 0 V 0 Estonia
Belgium 1 V 1 Greece

Group H PL W D L F A GD Pts
Belgium 5 4 1 0 22 2 20 13
Greece 5 3 2 0 10 3 7 11
Bosnia and Herzegovina 5 3 1 1 13 5 8 10
Cyprus 5 1 1 2 3 8 -5 4
Estonia 5 1 1 3 5 15 -10 4
Gibralter 5 0 0 5 2 22 -20 0

Group I
Croatia 1 V 0 Ukraine
Kosovo 1 V 2 Iceland
Turkey 2 V 0 Finland

Group I PL W D L F A GD Pts
Croatia 5 4 1 0 11 1 10 13
Iceland 5 3 1 1 8 6 2 10
Ukraine 5 2 2 0 7 4 3 8
Turkey 5 2 2 1 7 5 2 8
Finland 5 0 1 4 3 8 -5 1
Kosovo 5 0 1 4 2 14 -12 1

UEFA 2nd Place table
2nd Place PL W D L F A GD Pts
Italy 4 3 1 0 9 4 5 10
Portugal 4 3 0 1 13 3 10 9
Greece 4 2 2 0 6 2 4 8
Ireland 4 2 2 0 4 2 2 8
Sweden 4 2 1 1 9 3 6 7
Northern Ireland 4 2 1 1 6 2 4 7
Iceland 4 2 1 1 6 5 1 7
Slovakia 4 2 0 2 7 2 5 6
Montenegro 4 1 1 2 5 6 -1 4

Brazil have joined Russia at next years World Cup

mickmackey1 · 28-03-2017 9:15pm

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Ronaldo moved onto 70 goals last night, 4th in the European list now.

And now joins Klose on 71.

Andersonisgod · 28-03-2017 9:58pm

Bolivia lead Argentina 1-0 at half time. Messi banned for 4 games, 5 and a half hours before kick off. Without a doubt one of the most corrupt and vindictive bans I can remember in any sport I follow. Messi banned for cursing at the referee, despite the referee's report saying that he did not hear any offensive language from Messi. Also videos doing the rounds of a Chile player cursing at the ref in the same game and there's no FIFA ban for him. The consensus seems to be that this is FIFA's retribution for Messi skipping FIFA'S "The Best" in January. Corrupt behaviour from a corrupt organisation.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 28-03-2017 10:05pm

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Bolivia lead Argentina 1-0 at half time. Messi banned for 4 games, 5 and a half hours before kick off. Without a doubt one of the most corrupt and vindictive bans I can remember in any sport I follow. Messi banned for cursing at the referee, despite the referee's report saying that he did not hear any offensive language from Messi. Also videos doing the rounds of a Chile player cursing at the ref in the same game and there's no FIFA ban for him. The consensus seems to be that this is FIFA's retribution for Messi skipping FIFA'S "The Best" in January. Corrupt behaviour from a corrupt organisation, towards a corrupt individual.

FYP

Andersonisgod · 28-03-2017 10:07pm

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

FYP

Looking forward to you clamouring for a 4 game ban every time a player curses at a referee. Rooney might never football again.

JaMarcusHustle · 28-03-2017 10:09pm

Messi should make a mental note to add "cursing at officials" to the "Don't Do It" part of his brain.

You know, like he did with "Pay your taxes".

Dirty Dingus McGee · 28-03-2017 10:13pm

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Looking forward to you clamouring for a 4 game ban every time a player curses at a referee. Rooney might never football again.

Certainly should be banned.It's a complete disgrace the way players treat officials and they get away with it constantly so I have no sympathy for any player who gets banned for abusing officials.

ERG89 · 28-03-2017 10:15pm

Deulofeu scores against France.
Kevin Doyle getting caps.
Sweden beat Portugal from 2 down at half time.
It's been a weird night.
Argentina look a right mess under Bauza & going to Bolivia ain't easy even at the best of times.

764dak · 28-03-2017 10:23pm

Billy86 wrote: »

Messi banned for 4 international games for abusing refs... can only imagine how the reaction would be were it 'someone else'... but let's see if it gets brushed under the carpet and quite soon forgotten about for Little Leo.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39423000

I got an infraction for trolling as a soccer forum newbie for giving examples of Messi being a bad guy.

764dak · 28-03-2017 10:24pm

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Bolivia lead Argentina 1-0 at half time. Messi banned for 4 games, 5 and a half hours before kick off. Without a doubt one of the most corrupt and vindictive bans I can remember in any sport I follow. Messi banned for cursing at the referee, despite the referee's report saying that he did not hear any offensive language from Messi. Also videos doing the rounds of a Chile player cursing at the ref in the same game and there's no FIFA ban for him. The consensus seems to be that this is FIFA's retribution for Messi skipping FIFA'S "The Best" in January. Corrupt behaviour from a corrupt organisation.

Messi cursed at the assistant ref.

Andersonisgod · 28-03-2017 10:26pm

Love that the governing body of a global sport have vindictively banned a player purely for the purposes of revenge and smoothing their own egos and some "football fans" on this Board actually have a go at the player being banned. Like it's almost taken for granted at just how corrupt the governing body in this sport is. It seems something akin to Stockholm Syndrome.

Bauza is dreadful. Imagine having quality Argentine coaching options available and constantly picking poorly. Meanwhile Brazil, thanks to the correct coaching appointment, have turned their campaign around from looking like they could miss out on the World Cup to being the best team in the continent. Incredible what good coaching can do.

JaMarcusHustle · 28-03-2017 10:28pm

Andersonisgod wrote:

The consensus seems to be that this is FIFA's retribution for Messi skipping FIFA'S "The Best" in January.

Where is this consensus opinion coming from?

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