2018 World Cup Qualification

josip

Stephen15 wrote: »

Plenty of teams play on 3G pitches such as Andorra, Moldova, Lithuania, Faroe Islands and many more of the weaker, smaller nations so I don't that being a huge problem for Greenland. As for Greenland I believe they are a potential candiate member for CONCACAF along with Saba, Saint Bathemely, Saint Pierre and Miquelon and Sint Eustatius.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland

"With a population of about 56,480, most of whom either fish or hunt seals..."

FCIM

Omackeral wrote: »

I mean I personally don't know anyone. Anyone who I've spoken to thinks it's daft. It's like Navan having an international team.

They don't even play in Gibraltar. Talk about taking things to extremes to allow a new "nation" in.

764dak

FCIM wrote: »

Mexico aren't far too strong for CONCACAF though. Even looking at the last three World Cups, they finished top with a much less than perfect record this time around, qualified via the playoffs last time and qualified in second place in 2010. I'd think they'd want to avoid CONMEBOL too as it's arguably the most difficult place to qualify from.

African qualifying seems harder.

citytillidie

764dak wrote: »

African qualifying seems harder.

Africa has as many teams as Europe but only 5 spots.

So it works out for this World Cup
UEFA 55 teams 14 spots counting Russia 25% chance to Qualify
CAF 54 teams 5 spots 9% chance to qualify
AFC 46 teams 4.5 spots 9.78% chance to qualify
CONCACAF 35 teams 3.5 spots 10% chance to qualify
OFC 11 teams 0.5 spots 4% chance to qualify
COMMEBOL 10 teams 4.5 spots 45% chance to qualify

OldMrBrennan83

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citytillidie

Updated seeding with 2 teams to go

Pot 1
Russia
Germany
Brazil
Portugal
Argentina
Belgium
Poland
France

Pot 2
Spain
Switzerland
England
Colombia
Mexico
Uruguay
Croatia
Denmark

Pot 3
Iceland
Costa Rica
Sweden
Tunisia
Egypt
Senegal
Iran
Serbia

Pot 4
Nigeria
Japan
Morocco
Panama
South Korea
Saudi Arabia

Peru 2
Australia 4
Honduras 4
New Zealand 4

Peru will be in pot 2 if they qualify
Denmark will be in pot 2 if Peru do not qualify or pot 3 if they do
Serbia will be in pot 3 if Peru do not qualify or pot 4 if they do
Australia, Honduras and New Zealand will be in pot 4 if they qualify

764dak

Patww79 wrote: »

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Yeah, all those good European teams like England, Croatia, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Russia, and Bosnia-H that got bounced out the group stage the last World Cup to non-UEFA teams.

OldMrBrennan83

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764dak

Patww79 wrote: »

Shocks happen, but all-in-all it's Europe and South America that matters.

It seems hardly shocking since 7 UEFA teams also exited the group stage in 2010.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

If you let as many African teams in as European, loads of them wouldn't just go out in the group, they would be humiliated.

764dak

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

If you let as many African teams in as European, loads of them wouldn't just go out in the group, they would be humiliated.

From 1998 to now, the worst African defeat has been equal or less humiliating than the worst European defeat.

Chivito550

764dak wrote: »

From 1998 to now, the worst African defeat has been equal or less humiliating than the worst European defeat.

You are off your rocker if you think there should be equal allocation among Africa and Europe. 4th or 5th in Africa is roughly on par with 13th in Europe. Probably inferior to be honest.

FCIM

citytillidie wrote: »

Africa has as many teams as Europe but only 5 spots.

So it works out for this World Cup
UEFA 55 teams 14 spots counting Russia 25% chance to Qualify
CAF 54 teams 5 spots 9% chance to qualify
AFC 46 teams 4.5 spots 9.78% chance to qualify
CONCACAF 35 teams 3.5 spots 10% chance to qualify
OFC 11 teams 0.5 spots 4% chance to qualify
COMMEBOL 10 teams 4.5 spots 45% chance to qualify

You can't work it out that way. You have to look at the quality of those teams. In CONMEBOL at least one decent team usually gets left behind. Chile are a prime example. Recently very successful in their continental competition but couldn't qualify for the World Cup. The vast majority of teams in CONCACAF are not World Cup quality. In the AFC and the CAF, most teams are poor also. A lot of those who even qualify usually do nothing. UEFA is the toughest place to qualify from but CONMEBOL is not easy as the bulk of teams from there are decent. Even Argentina struggled to qualify this time.

Richard Hillman

What Channel is Australia v Honduras on?

Vincent Vega

Richard Hillman wrote: »

What Channel is Australia v Honduras on?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1O2MAFo6f0

2nd half just about to start. still 0-0
edit:10:12 - 1-0 to Aus. Official Stream and all wouldn't you think someone would have had the sense to put a fckn clock and score :mad:

Omackeral

Two late goals from Australia mean it finished 3-1 to Oz. The Socceroos will be at the World Cup next year.

PhilipsR

Omackeral wrote: »

Two late goals from Australia mean it finished 3-1 to Oz. The Socceroos will be at the World Cup next year.

Miles Jedinak, of all players, with a hat trick.

Mint Sauce

Peru v New Zealand also playing for Unofficial Football World Championship, tonight/tomorrow morning. Should be a good one.

Laois_Man

And Tim Cahill still in their starting team, turning 38 in three weeks time!

Rikand

PhilipsR wrote: »

Miles Jedinak, of all players, with a hat trick.

Goal 1 :: Free kick that took a massive deflection of a honduras player, sending the ball the opposite direction away from the keeper who had it covered. The decision that awarded the free kick was soft at best anyways

Goal 2 :: Penalty awarded after a ball that was crossed into the box took an unnatural deflection of 1 honduras player and hit the outstretched arm of another player who couldnt react quickly enough to get his foot in the way of his hand. It was a fantastic penalty though


I missed the other goals

Rikand

Laois_Man wrote: »

And Tim Cahill still in their starting team, turning 38 in three weeks time!

Can only last an hour now mind.

Almost scored a fantastic header, hit the crossbar

PhilipsR

Rikand wrote: »

Goal 1 :: Free kick that took a massive deflection of a honduras player, sending the ball the opposite direction away from the keeper who had it covered. The decision that awarded the free kick was soft at best anyways

Goal 2 :: Penalty awarded after a ball that was crossed into the box took an unnatural deflection of 1 honduras player and hit the outstretched arm of another player who couldnt react quickly enough to get his foot in the way of his hand. It was a fantastic penalty though


I missed the other goals

The third was a peno too :pac:

Lucas Hood

Italy sack Ventura.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41989609

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

764dak wrote: »

From 1998 to now, the worst African defeat has been equal or less humiliating than the worst European defeat.

Yeah but those are the best African teams. I said what would happen if they sent twice or more the number of teams they do now.

Vincent Vega

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8dCIi-ApNo

Check out 14:50 into the match for an interesting corner

764dak

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Yeah but those are the best African teams. I said what would happen if they sent twice or more the number of teams they do now.

Wouldn't UEFA teams losing 6-0 and 6-1 mean there are too many of them in the World Cup?

Omackeral

Peru are the final team to qualify for the 2018 World Cup with a 2-0 victory over New Zealand in the CONMEBOL-OFC Intercontinental Playoff.

citytillidie

Finals seeding for the draw on December 1st

Pot 1
Russia
Germany
Brazil
Portugal
Argentina
Belgium
Poland
France

Pot 2
Spain
Switzerland
England
Colombia
Mexico
Uruguay
Croatia
Peru

Pot 3
Denmark
Iceland
Costa Rica
Sweden
Tunisia
Egypt
Senegal
Iran

Pot 4
Serbia
Nigeria
Japan
Morocco
Panama
South Korea
Saudi Arabia
Australia

Cake Man

Group of Death? I'd go with maybe Brazil, Spain, Egypt, Serbia.
Group of Life? Russia, Peru, Iran, Saudi Arabia.

Can Iran and Saudis be in the same group?

Surprise package:Denmark or Egypt

It's sh!t we won't be there but can't wait for it anyway.

Omackeral

Group of England getting sorted as usual: Russia, England, Iran, Panama

citytillidie

Cake Man wrote: »

Group of Death? I'd go with maybe Brazil, Spain, Egypt, Serbia.
Group of Life? Russia, Peru, Iran, Saudi Arabia.

Can Iran and Saudis be in the same group?

Surprise package:Denmark or Egypt

It's sh!t we won't be there but can't wait for it anyway.

Nope Iran and Saudi Arabia can not be in the same group.

A group can have a max of 2 European teams but only one country from other confederations per group

Omackeral

citytillidie wrote: »

A group can have a max of 2 European teams but only one country from other confederations per group

Are the hosts included in that or exempt?

The Backwards Man

Peru's first finals in donkeys and straight into pot 2. Who does the seedings, Nobby Solano?

dr.kenneth noisewater

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Peru's first finals in donkeys and straight into pot 2. Who does the seedings, Nobby Solano?

Based on FIFA world rankings not previous WC experience

dr.kenneth noisewater

Group of Death: Brazil, Spain, Denmark, South Korea
Easy Group: Russia, England, Iran, Panama

Think Peru, Eygpt and South Korea could surprise a few depending on the draw

citytillidie

Omackeral wrote: »

Are the hosts included in that or exempt?

Russia are already drawn in Group A slot 1

exiledelbows

Omackeral wrote: »

Are the hosts included in that or exempt?

They're included in that. Only one other European team allowed in their group.

jacool

Group of Death: Germany Spain Costa Rica Nigeria
Group of "Life": Russia Switzerland Tunisia Australia

exiledelbows

There's a quick draw (and tournament) randomiser here. I've done it 10 times and Russia still haven't got out of their group. My last one had Mexico beating Portugal in the final :eek:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/nov/16/world-cup-russia-power-rankings-32-qualifiers

dastardly00

exiledelbows wrote: »

There's a quick draw (and tournament) randomiser here. I've done it 10 times and Russia still haven't got out of their group. My last one had Mexico beating Portugal in the final :eek:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/nov/16/world-cup-russia-power-rankings-32-qualifiers

Just tried it out...
Brazil, Croatia, Costa Rica and Saudi Arabia in the same group... with Croatia & Saudi qualifying for the round of 16 :pac: :pac: :pac:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

dastardly00 wrote: »

Just tried it out...
Brazil, Croatia, Costa Rica and Saudi Arabia in the same group... with Croatia & Saudi qualifying for the round of 16 :pac: :pac: :pac:

England Brazil Iceand Morocco. THey got out but then ran into Germany in the knockouts and that was the end of that. Germnay went on to beat Brazil in the final (doesn't say by what score!)

Denmark made it to the quarters, Senegal to the semis.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

exiledelbows wrote: »

There's a quick draw (and tournament) randomiser here. I've done it 10 times and Russia still haven't got out of their group. My last one had Mexico beating Portugal in the final :eek:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/nov/16/world-cup-russia-power-rankings-32-qualifiers

Just had Denmark beat Brazil in the final!

secman

Did it 47 times

Only four winners
France
Brazil
Spain
Germany

Predictable enough

dastardly00

secman wrote: »

Did it 47 times

Only four winners
France
Brazil
Spain
Germany

Predictable enough

jaysus you're a busy man

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

I've mostly had those four but also Belgium several times and the aforementioned Denmark win. Just got a Polandf victory as well.

citytillidie

Did it a few times, England were a winners once or twice

Rekop dog

South America strongest confederation imo, they'll have more teams in last 8 than Europe I reckon.

ERG89

Rekop dog wrote:

South America strongest confederation imo, they'll have more teams in last 8 than Europe I reckon.

I'll be fascinated to see will Argentina improve with more time with Sampaoli. Their result vs Nigeria was very poor.
I hope to see Torreira & Bentancur in the Uruguay side. They have needed fresh faces for a long, long time.

OldMrBrennan83

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highgiant1985

that websites fun!

Tried a few more times, mostly Germany, Brazil and England winning for me but I finished up on the below one as it had England going out in the group stages and an unlikely winner, that's cool with me!

Group F: Iran and Panama got through!
Argentina 4 ​
England 12 ​
Iran 34 ​
Panama 49

Final: Iceland winning it beating Brazil