sun roofs

f140

can you still buy new cars with sunroofs. I know that all cars have air con etc but was sitting in an old golf today and the sunroof was nice to have a bit of air and sun coming in. can a lad buy a 151 car now with a sunroof

MuppetCheck

Usually an optional extra since air con started becoming standard. Most models have them available although they've market them as something a lot fancier than what they were these days.

colm_mcm

Nowadays a lot of cars have panoramic glass roofs, some open, some don't.
The traditional sunroof is a rarity these days though, with aircon becoming commonplace.

f140

colm_mcm wrote: »

Nowadays a lot of cars have panoramic glass roofs, some open, some don't.
The traditional sunroof is a rarity these days though, with aircon becoming commonplace.

lets say you were buying a new golf or Passat. can you get them with a sunroof as an extra option?

weekaizer

I have a 04 lexus, I always use the sunroof (usually tilted) and I've never used the air con.
I guess I don't like using the extra petrol as the IS is thirsty enough the way it is. If I was buying a new car a sunroof or moonroof would be a fairly high priority.

colm_mcm

For example on the golf you can factory specify a panoramic sunroof for €1150

josephsoap

colm_mcm wrote: »

For example on the golf you can factory specify a panoramic sunroof for €1150

What's the difference between a panoramic sunroof and a normal sunroof?

Vic_08

weekaizer wrote: »

I have a 04 lexus, I always use the sunroof (usually tilted) and I've never used the air con.
I guess I don't like using the extra petrol as the IS is thirsty enough the way it is. If I was buying a new car a sunroof or moonroof would be a fairly high priority.

Having the roof open will also increase the fuel usage, at high speeds A/C may be more economical.

Atlantic Dawn

weekaizer wrote: »

I have a 04 lexus, I always use the sunroof (usually tilted) and I've never used the air con.
I guess I don't like using the extra petrol as the IS is thirsty enough the way it is. If I was buying a new car a sunroof or moonroof would be a fairly high priority.

Air con is the way to go, on a hot day nothing beats it, extra petrol use is negligible and probably less than the drag from sunroof or windows open.

f140

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Air con is the way to go, on a hot day nothing beats it, extra petrol use is negligible and probably less than the drag from sunroof or windows open.

the only thing I use air con for is clearing the windows in winter. much rather the fresh air. in summer will never have air con on but just windows open. that's why I like the idea of sun roofs. again im not really sure about those big panoramic roofs. always loved the normal sunroof with tilt and slide.

For Forks Sake

josephsoap wrote: »

What's the difference between a panoramic sunroof and a normal sunroof?

Bigger than traditional sunroof, usually the width of the roof and half the length of the car.

Truckermal

I love a sunroof partially the reason I love my old Avensis aircon leaves me with a sore throat and headache after a long journey.

68 lost souls

I like sunroofs mainly for the amount of light tey let in the car. Makes a big difference.

CiniO

colm_mcm wrote: »

Nowadays a lot of cars have panoramic glass roofs, some open, some don't.
The traditional sunroof is a rarity these days though, with aircon becoming commonplace.

Aircon becoming commonplace?

I thought aircom was commonplace for last 15 years at least?

As well I wouldn't compare aircon with sunroof really.
Sunroof actually might make a car warmer on sunny day when closed. And on hot days, it won't really make you colder even when open. Aircon will.

colm_mcm

CiniO wrote: »

Aircon becoming commonplace?

Yes, it's standard equipment on most family cars now, and is becoming more popular in smaller cars too.

CiniO wrote: »

I thought aircom was commonplace for last 15 years at least?

It's obviously becoming more common as time passes, so you could say 5/10/15/20/30 years and still be right. I think mass fitment of aircon is a lot more recent though. I think sunroofs started to die off in a big way roughly 10 years ago.

CiniO wrote: »

As well I wouldn't compare aircon with sunroof really.

Nobody's comparing them, but many manufacturers stopped having a sunroof as standard equipment of a trim level in favour of adding aircon instead.
Example, Toyota had 2 Aura trim levels for the Mk1 Avensis, one with sunroof and one with AC, Same with the RAV4.
Hyundai getz had a sunroof on the mid spec Getz, but aircon on the i20 that replaced it. Same story with the Ford Fiesta, Ford Focus and many other examples.

CiniO wrote: »

Sunroof actually might make a car warmer on sunny day when closed. And on hot days, it won't really make you colder even when open. Aircon will.

100% right.

Hachiko

people who are too tight to actually use A/C will do more harm than good, fixing the A/C is not cheap, compressors etc. I leave my climate on all the time, I take no notice on what it does to fuel consumption, I cant imagine its much.

Special Circumstances

Have both AC and a mahoosive sliding sunroof (ie not a fixed panoramic windscreen/roof).
Wouldn't be without either tbh.

CiniO

Hachiko wrote: »

people who are too tight to actually use A/C will do more harm than good, fixing the A/C is not cheap, compressors etc. I leave my climate on all the time, I take no notice on what it does to fuel consumption, I cant imagine its much.

About 0.5 l/100km on average extra to your fuel consumption.

So if you do f.e. 20k kilometres a year, it will be extra 100 litres, so at current prices around €140 per year.

IMO bit of a waste.

goz83

I do love the old sunroof and miss having one. My E200 doesn't have one. My fto did. My 318 didn't have one. My Astra did. Nothing like cruising along on a hot day and cracking open the sun roof to let the sun cook your ears. Also gives a feeling of more space, which is especially good in a sports coupe.