Group Set Choice

DMW22

Hi All

I'm looking at 2 bike models, one has Sram Force 22 and the other is Shimano Ultegra Di2.

My question is Is the Di2 worth the extra €300? All the other specs are the same

Brian?

DMW22 wrote: »

Hi All

I'm looking at 2 bike models, one has Sram Force 22 and the other is Shimano Ultegra Di2.

My question is Is the Di2 worth the extra €300? All the other specs are the same

Yes, it is.

godtabh

Brian? wrote: »

Yes, it is.

Would agree. I stepped up from 105 to Di2. Great investment

casion3

in a word yes worth the extra bucks

Ole Rodrigo

If it was between mechanical Dura Ace and Ultegra Di2, I'd go with Dura Ace.

ckeego

Go Campag!

11 speed Chorus

devonp

ckeego wrote: »

Go Campag!

11 speed Chorus

+1

Idleater

sram wifi.

The new MacBook of bicycle groupsets.

MediaMan

On a somewhat related topic, I am currently running a 10-speed 105 groupset and am looking to upgrade to 11-speed and higher spec.

Am seriously thinking of SRAM Force 22 rather than Ultegra, in order to get a 32T ring at the back for the serious climbing events that I seem to always end up in. I do a mix of sportives and club racing, and am no good at low cadence so I think I need this level of gearing. Also interested in the yaw-thingy front mech.

Any thoughts? In my case am not interested in Di2.

Idleater

MediaMan wrote: »

Also interested in the yaw-thingy front mech.

I run sram on all my bikes and the one problem is the adjustment of the front dérailleur. The difference with the red yaw mech is fantastic. I don't think it actually requires the corresponding front shifter, I am going to try it on my force bike at some point.
Red is brilliant, but force is probably best €/performance. I haven't gone 11 speed, as I mentioned above, I'm awaiting wireless which I intend to buy when released instead of a new race bike/frame.

Unknown Soldier

MediaMan wrote: »

On a somewhat related topic, I am currently running a 10-speed 105 groupset and am looking to upgrade to 11-speed and higher spec.

Am seriously thinking of SRAM Force 22 rather than Ultegra, in order to get a 32T ring at the back for the serious climbing events that I seem to always end up in. I do a mix of sportives and club racing, and am no good at low cadence so I think I need this level of gearing. Also interested in the yaw-thingy front mech.

Any thoughts? In my case am not interested in Di2.

Shimano do an 11-32 (11s). You just need a GS rather than a SS RD.

If you don't want to change the RD then you can still use an X?-30 rear cassette.

Also, aren't SRAM rear cassettes compatible with shimano gear?

OP, Di2 or Ui2 is lovely and can run an 11-32 with a GS RD.

In saying that I have found SRAM's doubletap stuff a lovely system to use too. I think I have the basic one on my cBoardman hybrid though.

MediaMan

Idleater wrote: »

I run sram on all my bikes and the one problem is the adjustment of the front dérailleur. The difference with the red yaw mech is fantastic. I don't think it actually requires the corresponding front shifter, I am going to try it on my force bike at some point.
Red is brilliant, but force is probably best €/performance. I haven't gone 11 speed, as I mentioned above, I'm awaiting wireless which I intend to buy when released instead of a new race bike/frame.

Thanks for the feedback. Definitely interested in Force. Red is way out of my budget.

Unknown Soldier wrote: »

Shimano do an 11-32 (11s). You just need a GS rather than a SS RD.

If you don't want to change the RD then you can still use an X?-30 rear cassette.

Also, aren't SRAM rear cassettes compatible with shimano gear?

OP, Di2 or Ui2 is lovely and can run an 11-32 with a GS RD.

In saying that I have found SRAM's doubletap stuff a lovely system to use too. I think I have the basic one on my cBoardman hybrid though.

Very true about Ultegra 11-speed going up to 32T - I'd forgotten about that as when I looked previously I was only looking at 10-speed. At that time SRAM WiFli was the only option for >30T. I already have a 11-28 cassette and didn't feel that changing both RD and the cassette just to get an extra 2-tooth gain was worth it. My current 105 RD only goes up to 28T and barely at that.

So I can look at both SRAM Force and Ultegra - off to do some more research!

nattefrost

I had the same decision to make last year and I went for the sram force 22 in the end. I personally love the double tap shifting and find it a pain going back to using ultegra 6700 on my other bike. Plus I think sram groupsets look way nicer than shimano. but thats just me.

iwillhtfu

DMW22 wrote: »

Hi All

I'm looking at 2 bike models, one has Sram Force 22 and the other is Shimano Ultegra Di2.

My question is Is the Di2 worth the extra €300? All the other specs are the same

I'm curious. What 2 bikes are they? Canyon?

ROK ON

I have quote da (mechanical) on 2 bikes and SRAM Red on one.
I simply dislike SRAM.
Yes it shifts very smoothly - no issue there. My issue with iit is twofold - (1) the hoods are very uncomfortable. The nub of the hood is tiny compared to the Ultegra flight deck. It is as a result very difficult to grip and I have reasonable small hands. (2) it feels very brittle - I feel as if the shifter will break off when shifting.
So all of my issues relate to the brake/shifters.
Ultegra to my mind is the opposite - comfortable for all day riding, feels sturdy.

Ryath

ROK ON wrote: »

I have quote da (mechanical) on 2 bikes and SRAM Red on one.
I simply dislike SRAM.
Yes it shifts very smoothly - no issue there. My issue with iit is twofold - (1) the hoods are very uncomfortable. The nub of the hood is tiny compared to the Ultegra flight deck. It is as a result very difficult to grip and I have reasonable small hands. (2) it feels very brittle - I feel as if the shifter will break off when shifting.
So all of my issues relate to the brake/shifters.
Ultegra to my mind is the opposite - comfortable for all day riding, feels sturdy.

They changed the shape of the hood slightly when they went to 11 speed. I have 10 speed rival and 11 speed force. I never had any issue with the rival hoods but the new force22 is more comfortable. Front shifting is much better but some of that may be down to the fsa crankset and rings on my rival bike. Run 105 on winter/audax bike it works well but in a race I much prefer the sram doubletap shifting.