Electric Ireland staff earn 65k a year on average

Warper

Why? What the hell are they doing? I know its a closed shop with nepotism rife in the sector but come on. Who the hell is taking on the unions - Mr Peabody?

20Cent

Who's Mr Peabody?

Antar Bolaeisk

What's the skill level of the average Electric Ireland employee?

Turtwig

They generate a profit don't they. So why the fck does it matter to outsiders if their labour costs are high? Surely all that should concern us is whether they're behaving ethically?

It would be interesting to see the median wage. Especially before we start berating their employees.

ebbsy

They are busy people, doing things like sending out threatening text messages when you pay €200 off a €250 bill.

mad muffin

Turtwig wrote: »

They generate a profit don't they. So why the fck does it matter to outsiders if their labour costs are high? Surely all that should concern us is whether they're behaving ethically?

It would be interesting to see the median wage.

It's not exactly hard to generate a profit.

1. Put the prices up

2. Sit back

3. ????

4. Profit

WoollyRedHat

People power

murpho999

Where is your proof for this?

Can't imagine a call centre worker earning this, it's probably for one area/department that you are on about.

EIther way , so what, €65k is not exactly crazy money nowadays and why do people think that people who work for semi-states or charities should be badly paid whilst they have to compete with the private sector to attract good staff?

skinny90

any link to support your findings OP?

Frynge

Turtwig wrote: »

They generate a profit don't they. So why the fck does it matter to outsiders if their labour costs are high? Surely all that should concern us is whether they're behaving ethically?

It would be interesting to see the median wage.

You seem to be forgetting that it is taboo in this country to make any kind of decent money from doing anything.

_Tombstone_

Turtwig wrote: »

They generate a profit don't they. So why the fck does it matter to outsiders if their labour costs are high? Surely all that should concern us is whether they're behaving ethically?

It would be interesting to see the median wage.

So you do care or you don't??

tomwaterford

Is all this not slightly skewed by the fact that the people at the top are on astronomical wages???

garancafan

What do you mean by "average" OP?

Uncle Ben

I heard Brendan Ogle on the radio this morning and did wonder how long it would take before ESB wages were discussed.
Genuinely did think it would be done first on Newstalk.

RomanKnows

Is this ESB staff or Electric Ireland staff? Electric Ireland is part of the ESB. Most of it has been outsourced. I can't imagine folk down in Abtran in Cork are pulling in 65k for answering calls for Electric Ireland.

Core ESB is an engineering and IT company. 65k sounds reasonable.

Permabear

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So what OP?
staff earn that much, on average, some earn less, some earn more, why is it your business?

Jealous???

Calibos

I include electric Ireland staff with the cohort of state/semi-state workers that include Doctors, Nurses, Fire service, Gardai, that earn their money and their 'sickies' in spades.

Up a fcuking pole in all weathers inches away from one type of death and 10's of metres from another kind of death

Spunge

whats take home pay from 65k after tax ?
might as well sit on the dole and do something fun

Mycroft H

They pay back an average of 120 million in dividends to the state every year. Couldn't care less what the employees get paid when there making enough money to pump back into the state.

Fudge You

Warper wrote: »

Why? What the hell are they doing? I know its a closed shop with nepotism rife in the sector but come on. Who the hell is taking on the unions - Mr Peabody?

What average is being used here???

Lets all go to Statistics class together, and we wont be getting our knickers in a twist over every Newspaper headline.
Hurry guys, lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uncle Ben

ebbsy wrote: »

They are busy people, doing things like sending out threatening text messages when you pay €200 off a €250 bill.

That's probably the girls on 400 quid a week, but it's better if we include them all in the €65k bracket, isn't that right?

porsche959

Warper wrote: »

Why? What the hell are they doing? I know its a closed shop with nepotism rife in the sector but come on. Who the hell is taking on the unions - Mr Peabody?

Your post just shows that no matter how much austerity is pushed onto the hard-pressed working & lower middle class PAYE sector, there will always be those who will go along with the elite's strategy to set worker against worker.

If the unioised ESB staff have secured reasonable job security and reasonable living salaries, fair play to them. Workers in other sectors should seek to emulate rather than attack them.

crazy_kenny

I work in a unionised workplace and everyone gets paid a good wage. Most new companies are non unionised and want you to work for s**t money and benefits. They want the workers to be the working poor struggling to survive while the top guys rake it in.

The ESB workers also took pay cuts a few years ago I think.

jester77

65K is not exactly a big salary for skilled workers. Plus 65k would be the average and not the median.

silly_fred

murpho999 wrote: »

Where is your proof for this?

Can't imagine a call centre worker earning this, it's probably for one area/department that you are on about.

EIther way , so what, €65k is not exactly crazy money nowadays and why do people think that people who work for semi-states or charities should be badly paid whilst they have to compete with the private sector to attract good staff?

even you sign up with bord gais , airtricity , energia etc , ESB networks still get the ground rental , esb networks have a monopoly on the infrastructural service so they dont really operate in the private sector

Mycroft H

There's senior technicians in Intel making more than this. I don't see what the fuss is about.

It's a company of engineers and skilled tradespeople. This isn't high despite what people think.

kneemos

jester77 wrote: »

65K is not exactly a big salary for skilled workers. Plus 65k would be the average and not the median.

Paupers wage for an electrician.

rubberdiddies

I'm guessing the OP is mixing up electric ireland (a billing company), with ESB Networks ad ESBI, both if which are highly profitable companies.

€65k for the type of skilled staff they employ is not a high salary

SEPT 23 1989

they earn half that over the border

porsche959

Permabear wrote: »

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I will admit I am not familar with the metrics in that sector, but let's face it, Permabear, you would go along with a devil-take-the hindmost/privatise everything/ /neo-liberal approach regardless.

The Lottery staff would have been on average of around €65k a year also with a healthy multi-million € surplus delivered to good causes each year and no subsidies required from the state whatever, so I take it you were against the privatisation of the lottery?

Uncle Ben

crazy_kenny wrote: »

I work in a unionised workplace and everyone gets paid a good wage. Most new companies are non unionised and want you to work for s**t money and benefits. They want the workers to be the working poor struggling to survive while the top guys rake it in.

The ESB workers also took pay cuts a few years ago I think.

I don't think they took paycuts. I seem to remember that famous interview with Brendan Ogle and I think it was that professor from Limerick. When it was suggested that ESB staff wages should be cut, Ogle's reply was, 'its hard to negotiate in the dark '.
It's a pity Siptu doesn't have somebody of the same calibre.

pablo128

kneemos wrote: »

Paupers wage for an electrician.

It's at least 20k over the union rate for an electrician.

porsche959

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

they earn half that over the border

Cost of living is way cheaper. I think people living in the ROI underestimate how much more expensive it is for almost everything here.

Uncle Ben

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

they earn half that over the border

Different country depending on your point of view.

tonycascarino

65000 euro a year is an 'average' salary nowadays? Go away outta that. Some people talking tripe here.

syklops

tomwaterford wrote: »

Is all this not slightly skewed by the fact that the people at the top are on astronomical wages???

you have a company of 20 people. The CEO earns 1 million a year. everyone else earns a euro a year. Thats an average of 50,000.95 each! Sure they're loaded!

SEPT 23 1989

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/revealed-a-startling-array-of-perks-on-offer-for-esb-staff-26767643.html

rubberdiddies

tonycascarino wrote: »

65000 euro a year is an 'average' salary nowadays? Go away outta that.

It's a high salary for unskilled workers but not exceptionally high for example for the Engineers that work in ESBI

wandatowell

Uncle Ben wrote: »

I don't think they took paycuts. I seem to remember that famous interview with Brendan Ogle and I think it was that professor from Limerick. When it was suggested that ESB staff wages should be cut, Ogle's reply was, 'its hard to negotiate in the dark '.
It's a pity Siptu doesn't have somebody of the same calibre.

Did Brendan Ogle step down from his role with the ESB Union?

syklops

tonycascarino wrote: »

65000 euro a year is an 'average' salary nowadays? Go away outta that. Some people talking tripe here.

It is average. What do you call average?

Uncle Ben

wandatowell wrote: »

Did Brendan Ogle step down from his role with the ESB Union?

I don't know.

Mycroft H

Average for a skilled trade in a big company. Plenty of engineers dragging that average upwards too.

Uncle Ben

Warper wrote: »

Why? What the hell are they doing? I know its a closed shop with nepotism rife in the sector but come on. Who the hell is taking on the unions - Mr Peabody?

Engineers in LAs, garda Sgt, school principles are all on roughly the same wage.

Uncle Ben

For perspective ESB engineers 65k.

FG John Perry 85k. FG John Perry's wife -anywhere between 38k & 49k excluding expenses.

ESB staff definitely worth their wages.

boobar

20Cent wrote: »

Who's Mr Peabody?

Mr Sherman's pal

65k is not a lot of money for many of the highly skilled staff working for the ESB I'd hope many are earning a lot more than that.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

An average of 65k is feck all in an organisation that size. CEO's salary plus exec directors, auditors, engineers, etc all push it up. As an organisation it has a huge proportion of staff who are very highly trained. Their average age is something like 40+ with many years experience behind them. They have clerical staff on <30k and call centre staff on low wages. The average means nothing.
Again, 65k is not huge. My pension is close to that!

Dyr

a heavily unionised workforce are making good money?

I'm shocked and outraged

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

pablo128 wrote: »

It's at least 20k over the union rate for an electrician.

Again, ignorance of statistics. Who said every electrician is on 65k? The figure was the avarge for the entire company - all grades, all levels. This is the nonsense of quoting averages.

Desolation Of Smug

murpho999 wrote: »

Where is your proof for this?

Can't imagine a call centre worker earning this, it's probably for one area/department that you are on about.

EIther way , so what, €65k is not exactly crazy money nowadays and why do people think that people who work for semi-states or charities should be badly paid whilst they have to compete with the private sector to attract good staff?

Because they do fcuk all. The front-line workers do hustle, but they get even better paid. The rest just sit back and absorb the gravy. Most of the heavy-lifting is subbied out too.