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The X-Files - Season 10 & 11 [** Spoilers **]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,912 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I enjoyed it.

    Now I have to decide to watch it weekly or wait till the end of the month and binge it all together I'll watch episode two tonight and see how it is after that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,912 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I enjoyed it.

    Now I have to decide to watch it weekly or wait till the end of the month and binge it all together I'll watch episode two tonight and see how it is after that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 195 ✭✭unjedilike


    I had read the negative reviews and I feared the worst but I really enjoyed it


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭drugstore cowboy


    unjedilike wrote: »
    I had read the negative reviews and I feared the worst but I really enjoyed it

    +1


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 541 ✭✭✭JakeArmitage


    where can I watch this?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    I enjoyed it. However its been a while since I watched the old one and this seemed a little umm, simplified, non ambiguous, direct or ahh easy maybe.. I dunno but just straight into laying out this massive conspiracy with details handed to them like
    Mulder look at our replica of alien technology that the world doesnt know exists etc

    Though I guess they needed something to draw them back and make them re-open the X files

    Also was Scully always so devoid of emotion, maybe she was and I was younger and just took it as her being scientific and overlooked it cos she was hot in my teenage eyes but re meeting her for the first time in years now Im trying to remember why Mulder likes her so much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Can't get the idea of Jeff Winger scamming people out of money through conspiracies out of my head. Was kinda funny how little focus they gave to Skinner when he pops up. Just a brief mention and bang he's in the next scene without a second's pause.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    very rushed, there was a previous full season of reveals in that one episode


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Nah. I really didn't like how Mulder abandoned decades of beliefs based on the testimony of one girl and a quick look at a ship. Didn't sit well given how much he's seen of the alien bounty hunters, other UFOs, hybrids, etc etc over the years. It's as if Carter wanted to try and get it out when, if he couldn't do it justice, he just should have left the conspiracy. Felt very clunky.

    Hopefully the non-Carter stand alone episodes offer better material.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Have to agree with a lot of what people are saying: it was not a good episode of TV.

    Every scene felt incredibly rushed, with awkward reaction shots, no sense of timing and with characters spouting clunky expositionary dialogue at a furious rate. Mulder's information overload monologue toward the end almost felt intentionally parodic - He rhymed off reams of information like a data processor. If he could rap as fast as he can outline conspiracies he'd top the charts.

    No individual scene was given time to breathe - Take the conversation between Mulder and the old guy from Roswell; in that two minutes there isn't a single beat where they're not flying at breakneck pace through exposition, exposition, exposition. Early on in their chat, before they get really started, Mulder says he took precautions to make sure he wasn't followed, he presumes the geezer did the same, cue a quick insert shot of the oul fella looking at a passing plane. It would have been effective here at this point to give us just one extra second to contemplate the implications of that shot - you can never be to careful, yes, indeed conspiracies are everywhere, etc,etc... Instead we don't linger on it at all, before they start the 100 second dialogue dash to get to the end of the scene, it's like we can't even be afforded the time to think that thought. It didn't feel like a moment between two actual people: they were just basically props to fling words at you.

    This feeling of a mad rush permeates nearly everything. Did you ever watch a show or a movie after you've had a few drinks? A few drinks to get you to the halfway to being pissed stage - where you can still follow things and it isn't all jumbled mess, but it all goes by a bit quickly if you’re watching something, like the experience is nearly on fast-forward. Well, this episode felt like this and I was stone-cold sober.

    Maybe, as some people have said, this was a clear the decks episode: trying to get all the baggage out of the way before starting some new and hopefully less rushed story arc. But I'm not sure, aside from the sheer speed and clunkiness of it all it was filled with really some just outright dumb moments - Mulder completely changing his mind, over the course of seemingly one night, about everything he's believed in for his whole life- what? Why was no-one protecting Svetlana if she was so crucial? How is she driving around by the episodes end if everyone in the NWO views her as an asset and our friends need her too?

    I'll give it another few episodes but there's a lot of code reds already flashing loud and clear. While it was good in and of itself to see Mulder and Scully again I don't think everyone was as interested as they should have been: Duchovny seemed terrifically uninterested throughout, his emotionless performance stunk of a man dying to pick up a pay-check. Gillian Anderson was probably the best thing about the whole episode, but that's not a surprise; she’s always been a class act.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    ixoy wrote: »
    Nah. I really didn't like how Mulder abandoned decades of beliefs based on the testimony of one girl and a quick look at a ship. Didn't sit well given how much he's seen of the alien bounty hunters, other UFOs, hybrids, etc etc over the years. It's as if Carter wanted to try and get it out when, if he couldn't do it justice, he just should have left the conspiracy. Felt very clunky.
    a lot in it, but he didn't abandon his belief he just said there hasn't been any new alien visits for a while? didn't he?, did they suggest that aliens have never purposely landed on earth only occasionally hovered over or crashed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,036 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Yeah, this just didn't do it for me..

    .. don't get me wrong, seeing the old titles and hearing the theme was a nice burst of nostalgia, but it did feel a little rushed and of very little substance.

    Plus I always loved Duchovny in this role.. Hank Moody was good and all but Mulder's one liners were one thing I remember fondly from when the shot was in it's prime. Duchovny seemed to be phoning this performance in.. unfortunate!

    I'm hoping for better from tonight's episode.. a few MOTW episodes wouldn't go amiss!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Wolverine359


    I enjoyed it, yeah I didn't mind the crazy conspiracy stuff, that's always been crazy lol, but the pacing was the biggest issue. There was simply too much dialogue exposition, and had to be crammed into the 42 minutes. An extended-length episode of 50 minutes would have helped enormously. But it's great to have the duo back on our screens, and while the quality needs to be a lot more polished, it already makes up for that lacklustre movie from 2008 when we last saw them together. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Marje


    I enjoyed it and will watch the rest of the episodes. Did think Mulder talked too much - as other have said they were trying to fit in as much as possible.

    Clip of the second episode



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Wolverine359


    And another thing in its defence, it was all about them getting back into the X files. Clunky as it was, I didn't need much of an excuse hahha. Episode 2 looks like it's about them getting properly stuck into a paranormal case and investigating it in the field etc, which for me was my favourite aspect of the show. Here's the trailer, it's class:

    http://youtu.be/k4wUAi40XTc
    Edit: sorry I can't seem to post a link that allows you to watch the vid directly within the forum, apologies! The link above takes you to it at least. :)
    Final edit: oh I finally did it :pac:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    It did feel very rushed but it is a mini-series after all. I enjoyed it.

    Gillian Anderson has certainly aged better that David Duchovny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    It did feel very rushed but it is a mini-series after all. I enjoyed it.

    Gillian Anderson has certainly aged better than David Duchovny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,068 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    I just couldn't get over Gillian Anderson's face, she looks terrible and must have spent a fortune on Botox and plastic surgery.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 541 ✭✭✭JakeArmitage


    Dandelion6 wrote: »
    It did feel very rushed but it is a mini-series after all. I enjoyed it.

    Gillian Anderson has certainly aged better than David Duchovny.

    Shes 8 years younger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,912 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    That was good old fashioned monster of the week episode.


    Duchovny & Anderson seemed a bit more in tune with the characters in episode 2.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,912 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    That was good old fashioned monster of the week episode.


    Duchovny & Anderson seemed a bit more in tune with the characters in episode 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,384 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Pity it's only 6 episodes. Bound to be a certain amount of rushing through material. Even 10 episodes would have allowed it a bit more time to breathe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Was expecting Episode 1 to be a terrible shítshow based on all the bad press but it really wasn't that bad, an average X-Files episode really and you have to take on board that they had 40-odd minutes to get everybody up to speed / pull in some new viewers.

    Still, having watched the series and only finished it a few days ago it was weird to see eveyone suddenly age 13 years...............except for Skinner, who looks the almost the same bar his little grey beard :pac:

    Was great to see Mulder go on another conspiracy rant though, the show really did go to shít when he wasn't around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭readyletsgo


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Was expecting Episode 1 to be a terrible shítshow based on all the bad press but it really wasn't that bad, an average X-Files episode really and you have to take on board that they had 40-odd minutes to get everybody up to speed / pull in some new viewers.

    Still, having watched the series and only finished it a few days ago it was weird to see eveyone suddenly age 13 years...............except for Skinner, who looks the almost the same bar his little grey beard :pac:

    Was great to see Mulder go on another conspiracy rant though, the show really did go to shít when he wasn't around.

    Me too, I thought it was brilliant comeback episode. They got everything in there for everyone. Very fast, almost too fast but I really enjoyed it. Skinner does (stupid spell check) not look his age at all! I was expecting it to be terrible since all those reviews said it was for the past couple weeks all over the place.

    Won't get to watch episode 2 till Thursday, so, everybody on here, PLEASE use *spoiler* tags, please :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    It was a bit rushed, David almost seemed like he had something to do after filming and wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible. He looks wrecked too.

    I didn't mind all that, They didn't need to go back over everything and have a slow burner. The only reason to bring the show back is if something changed, there was new information or evidense to look at and the show got straight into that, it's put its cards on the table and lets get on with it.

    I kind of like the new twist, it's playing to it's audience and keeping up with current conspiracy theory trends. So I imagine it's going to feed a thousand nut cases who'll be going over it with a fine tooth comb looking for hidden messages which I'm sure the makers have placed around the show in abundance.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    though Ep2 was better, the pacing just seemed more on point. Maybe I was a bit harsh on Scully calling her emotionless and with the content of the show you can see why but it was actually very odd to see her smile in that dream type sequence


    Really feels like a pity its going to be such a short run of episodes, next one sounds like fun esp from Mulders description of them looking for a
    "man sized horned lizard with human teeth"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭bmstuff


    Watched episode 1

    Mulders look is on purpose since he is supposed to be depressed since X-Files closed and has been living as a recluse for a while. His look in the next episodes according to previews watched, greatly improves.

    I was surprised at the acting though, geez that face to face at the house between Mulder and Scully was some really lame acting.

    Some of the dialogs were way too much as well, this new world order crap, all the pictures and Mulder talking non stop, that was bad I think.

    Now Mulder thinks there is no ET but that humans organised everything (Abductions, fake UFO etc). Well a little streched don't you think? Given the discoveries they made over the years in the show, why would they make him think that?

    I really hope they come up with some good stories because it is going to be boring otherwise. Still I was happy to see the show and the actors back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    bmstuff wrote: »
    Some of the dialogs were way too much as well, this new world order crap, all the pictures and Mulder talking non stop, that was bad I think.
    Because aliens are so last century, the show is quite literally tapping into the current conspiracy theories. Just head over to the boards conspiracy forum and you'd assume the writers of the show got most of their ideas from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,068 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    Watching the new episode now. Never watched x files before as I was a kid back then. Are the old episodes worth downloading? Would they be outdated now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    Watching the new episode now. Never watched x files before as I was a kid back then. Are the old episodes worth downloading? Would they be outdated now?

    the original x-files is a classic show with some outstanding episodes. It might not be for everyone but you'd would be missing out if you never give it a try.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,068 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    the original x-files is a classic show with some outstanding episodes. It might not be for everyone but you'd would be missing out if you never give it a try.

    I'll give season 1 a few episodes at the least.

    The truth is out there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭bmstuff


    Well episode 2 watched, so far, not so good if you ask me.
    I am kinda lost between the episode 1 and episode 2
    No idea what happened in between, it is like episode 1 never happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,312 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I thought this was going to be a 6 part serialised story and not standalone episodes. Which is why episode 1 threw me when they were slowly building a plan then suddenly everything gets taken away. I expected the plan to play out over coming episodes with back and forth between the government and the agents.
    Then with episode 2, the way they built up the doctor/Founder at the beginning I thought there was something about him like he wasn't real or something. Then Scully and Mulder get to meet him no problem and there's nothing really mysterious about him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,312 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I thought this was going to be a 6 part serialised story and not standalone episodes. Which is why episode 1 threw me when they were slowly building a plan then suddenly everything gets taken away. I expected the plan to play out over coming episodes with back and forth between the government and the agents.
    Then with episode 2, the way they built up the doctor/Founder at the beginning I thought there was something about him like he wasn't real or something. Then Scully and Mulder get to meet him no problem and there's nothing really mysterious about him


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Only just seen episode 1.

    First few minutes before the credits may as well have been an intro to a Naked Gun movie with the photos flopping down.

    Jeff Winger as a right wing / alien conspiracist nut was weird and didn't fit but I get the point that to jump the story really quickly you needed an excuse, so have a really rich guy to cover the holes.

    The thread hasn't been to spoilery so far so put my Qs in brackets just in case:
    Did Scully go on a date or have a thing with Jeff Winger? Sipping champers in his limo after he says, I actually came to see you?

    Why did those military guys blow up the ARV?

    Was it actually an ARV or was the Faraday cage there to hold it, or just to hide it? Also, having no idea of the minimum spec of a Faraday cage for ETs ride, did it not look like regular fencing?

    Why did they use an ARV to blow up that girl?

    Did the CSM not die by being hit with a rocket along time ago?

    What was with the constant questions to Mulder abot how did you get here and him saying he hitch hiked? Is there an in joke, is that the in joke?

    For all my complaints, and it was not a good episode or good TV, and I hated the first half, it was the X files and by the end of it, I had been sucked in, I presume due to nostalgia, or maybe the second half was a wee bit better but I can't in good conscience call it good TV.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,519 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    10.01

    So, it's a difficult one. Not an example of the show's strong suit, certainly. Better in individual moments than as a whole. I've not read any professional reviews in full yet, general vibe is negative in some quarters, I'll find the specifics when I do some reading. Ordinarily, I take notes during some of the shows I watch now, I didn't do that back in the day with TXF and I put down my notepad after a while tonight. In one respect I don't feel like I've a lot to say, and that's not a great sign. Considering the TV we watch now, and the show's original energy, parts of this felt a little jaded.

    Here's the thing, though. Watching the show in the 2010s is weird. Very weird - even if it does pay for bulletproof limos.

    I make no apology for grinning like a loon at the start and once the credits kicked in, and towards the end.

    Aliens explode cars now, the bastards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭hotshots85


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Only just seen episode 1.

    First few minutes before the credits may as well have been an intro to a Naked Gun movie with the photos flopping down.

    Jeff Winger as a right wing / alien conspiracist nut was weird and didn't fit but I get the point that to jump the story really quickly you needed an excuse, so have a really rich guy to cover the holes.

    The thread hasn't been to spoilery so far so put my Qs in brackets just in case:
    Did Scully go on a date or have a thing with Jeff Winger? Sipping champers in his limo after he says, I actually came to see you?

    Why did those military guys blow up the ARV?

    Was it actually an ARV or was the Faraday cage there to hold it, or just to hide it? Also, having no idea of the minimum spec of a Faraday cage for ETs ride, did it not look like regular fencing?

    Why did they use an ARV to blow up that girl?

    Did the CSM not die by being hit with a rocket along time ago?

    What was with the constant questions to Mulder abot how did you get here and him saying he hitch hiked? Is there an in joke, is that the in joke?

    For all my complaints, and it was not a good episode or good TV, and I hated the first half, it was the X files and by the end of it, I had been sucked in, I presume due to nostalgia, or maybe the second half was a wee bit better but I can't in good conscience call it good TV.

    Almost exactly how I was, every time my brain started questioning stuff or spotting ropey acting or cheese levels at 110%, my 90's kid brain kicked and said "shut the hell up and it's THE X FILES AGAIN!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    I'm not sure what to make of it...I guess 2016 is a different generation and lifetime in a way to when the show was at it's peak. As touched on in the show to believe in aliens now makes you a laughing stock, back then you could have a legit argument about their existence...now the way technology has moved on it should be so easy for somebody to film something on their phone/security system etc it just debunks any argument to their existence and that is a loophole I felt the show couldn't fill.

    Also, the beauty about the x-files is that we never really saw the aliens that much...the shows beauty was the chase and trying to find them. Seeing an alien straight off just kinda ruined it a bit for me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,036 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Second episode was more like it.. solid bits of humour, occasionally dodgy SFX and healthy supply of gore. Though probably should ease up on pop references - ObamaCare, Edward Snowden etc.

    Duchovny was far better and felt more like the Mulder we know and love..

    More like that please!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭nkay1985


    So I just didn't really like the first episode. I don't mind the complete jump in theory etc that much but it just didn't feel very X-Filesey, none of it. The pacing was odd, I think someone said nothing was given a chance to breathe, that's exactly it.

    Episode 2 however felt much more like the real thing. I thought Mulder and Scully's interactions felt a lot more like they should. All round, I was just a lot happier with it. It's not perfect by any means but there was enough in it to keep me watching.

    For the guy who has never watched the original series, watch season one. Do so before you go to bed, with the lights off. You will feel a bit freaked at times. Re-watched a lot of it last year and they still hold up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,731 ✭✭✭brian_t


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    I'll give season 1 a few episodes at the least.

    The truth is out there!

    If you don't want to watch the entire series Den of Geek have a few suggested road-maps to follow.

    http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/the-x-files/34322/the-x-files-an-episode-roadmap-for-beginners


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    I would argue to believe in aliens in 2016 makes more sense than ever given we know that planets exist around other stars and some of them are in the goldilock zone, even the Vatican who have an astronomy observation station don't rule out the possibility.

    So back to the X files, I enjoyed it, it was my favourite program and it brings me back watching it, I don't care for reviews, I loved having it back.

    This is what NASA has to say about aliens life:
    https://www.nasa.gov/content/finding-life-beyond-earth-is-within-reach
    Many scientists believe we are not alone in the universe. It's probable, they say, that life could have arisen on at least some of the billions of planets thought to exist in our galaxy alone -- just as it did here on planet Earth.

    I tend to believe, and as Stephen Hawking has said, he believes it is dangerous sending messages into space as intelligent alien life could be hostile.

    The X files probably makes more sense as a program more than ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 832 ✭✭✭HamsterFace


    I just find it a bit silly. "they" are he'll bent on destroying what is quite a nice world so they can control you. They being the US government who control pretty much everything anyway. And reference to the government as a constant, ignoring the fact it changes every few years.

    I was probably never going to enjoy it anyway seeing as I scoff at conspiracy theories


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    what was that joel mchale said to Scully about wanting to see her again, is that what he said? will he be back?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    what was that joel mchale said to mulder about wanting to see her again, is that what he said? will he be back?

    He said that and then in the next scene she is sipping champagne in the back of his car, looking flustered/caught out when Mulder calls.

    It was all abit weird.


  • Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭Walter E GO


    Anyone else notice in episode 2, that Planet of The Apes was playing on a tv in the background in one of the scenes (not sure which) and then Mulder was watching the apes in 2001 A Space Odyssey with his son on the tv. Wonder is this an easter egg. If so, what could it mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,312 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    X Files is really a prequel to Planet of the Apes and it's the apes behind everything so they can take over?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Loved the second episode and like many hear squealed with excitement hearing the original theme tune again. Really really hope there will be a longer series after this.
    One thing bugging me though........Mulders voice ? Has he gone through puberty or what :D
    It's soooooo much deeper


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I just find it a bit silly. "they" are he'll bent on destroying what is quite a nice world so they can control you. They being the US government who control pretty much everything anyway.

    They are not the US government though, thought that was pretty clear to me, or so I thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,233 ✭✭✭irishchris


    After reading previews by some sites already discrediting the reboot of xfiles I was worried they had made a mistake bringing it back. But boy was I wrong! Love the two episodes. The first was ropey at times but that was due to trying to justify mulder/Scully reunion with the xfiles. Second episode was classic xfiles. Really hope they reorder a full series after this


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