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_Kaiser_

** LOTS OF SPOILERS AHEAD.. DON'T SAY YOU WEREN'T WARNED **

I'm working from home today so just watched this over lunch...


It looks like things between Axe and Lara still aren't good given how quick she was to try and save herself - I wonder did the lawyer tell him when they met in the pool hall? Him not showing up at home as planned of course won't help matters.

I thought Taylor and Wild Bill were gonna have issues when Axe appointed them CIO rather than him, but apparently not... Wags was great as usual.

Axe of course will go down swinging, but without the help of Hall (who disappeared even before Boyd showed up at Axe's door) it will be a tough fight.

And Chuck... after his dad effectively disowning him, and him discovering Wendy meeting Axe (what did she whisper to him as they were taking him away I wonder?) and that she'll always side with him it seems, I was surprised to see him show up at home at the end. I also think the guy in his office quitting out of resentment to whatshername getting made head of criminal investigations will come back to bite him.

Overall a decent finale with some good setup for season 3. This has been probably my favorite show this season so looking forward to where it goes next.

Clareman

Mr.S wrote: »

He would have been searched before going into the cell, no?

Axe will buy himself out of prison, but i'm guessing a big back story on loosing Lara and the kids - same with Chuck, he'll chase Axe and be exposed for his plan but will loose Wendy.

Great season, just wish it was longer

Axe would have been searched but he'd be able to be passed something by a guard.

Fred Swanson

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Tony EH

I like the show and it's one of the better things on tele at the moment. But it's one biggest flaw is the silly angle of having Rhoades' wife working at the business he's trying to bring down.

That hug as Alexrod is being arrested was ridiculous.

You think that wouldn't be all over the media in reality?

They really need to...er..."axe" that in the next series. It's beyond silly now.

steve_r

Yeah it's quite artifical and contrived.

I liked how they left it with the finale with nearly everyone left in a mess of their own making.

Interesting contrast in the two relationships - Chuck could have/should have bailed on Wendy after those photos, while Lara looked to cut and run. It's interesting, from season 1 it would have looked like the foundations of both relationships are equally strong but that's clearly not the case.

I really enjoyed Season 2 and felt it really built well on Season 1. It's turned into a "must watch" show for me.

Tony EH

It's very good alright and the slow build on everyone's character is handled well. Lara showing her true colours when the chips are down, Chuck emerging into a world he would have rejected 20 episodes ago and more revelations on Alexrod's crooked nature are being unveiled brilliantly. I especially liked the way that nobody even questioned why the Feds were arresting Bobby, not even Wendy. They all know Axelrod is as bent as a ?3 note.

The only unconvincing character now is Wendy Rhoades while her husband (divorce proceedings or not) works to put him away.

Tony EH

On a side note, there's an Al Capone series with this guys face all over it. Surprised it hasn't been done yet.

mikeoneilly

Tony EH wrote: »

I like the show and it's one of the better things on tele at the moment. But it's one biggest flaw is the silly angle of having Rhoades' wife working at the business he's trying to bring down.

That hug as Alexrod is being arrested was ridiculous.

You think that wouldn't be all over the media in reality?

They really need to...er..."axe" that in the next series. It's beyond silly now.

Agreed , there's no way that's happening in real life ,Wendy would be gone.

The idea of Chuck Rhodes blowing all his trust fund on taking down axe is also beyond silly,no guarantee of everything getting it back.

Awesome show anyway

Boom_Bap

That was deadly, really enjoyed how that wrapped up this season.
Axe is unsure about his future. His missus is unsure about him.
Rhodes will need to make sure he has not left any threads, but he screwed over his father and family friend, and also he heard word from elsewhere of what he has done......so there are threads that need to be tied.
Not sure about Wendy in this last episode, she is also a thread and knows alot that could bring either down.

Bullocks

Rhodes senior was some bollix giving those pictures to the son !
Good show again , pity it's the last

Bullocks

Axe's wife was a scumbag for leaving before he got released

Thundercats Ho

Bullocks wrote: »

Axe's wife was a scumbag for leaving before he got released

She doesn't love or trust him anymore, and was looking to protect herself and the kids if axe was locked up and their assets frozen.
She invested into her sisters business (off the books), so is sorted in the short term, and once the legal fella told her that 1/2 of axes money would be hers when it's unfrozen, she was happy.
She's a horrible character, but was doing right by her kids.

Mushy

I've a feeling Chuck getting those pictures will prevent him from getting dragged in on that front.

I also feel the Ice Juice lad will be the one to unravel it all, just a case of when!

Thundercats Ho

Bullocks wrote: »

Rhodes senior was some bollix giving those pictures to the son !
Good show again , pity it's the last

It's coming back for season 3

Boom_Bap

Thundercats Ho wrote: »

She doesn't love or trust him anymore, and was looking to protect herself and the kids if axe was locked up and their assets frozen.
She invested into her sisters business (off the books), so is sorted in the short term, and once the legal fella told her that 1/2 of axes money would be hers when it's unfrozen, she was happy.
She's a horrible character, but was doing right by her kids.

I see that as she was doing what Bobby would do, protect her interests and future.

Bullocks

Wags was looking shook towards the end of the show , I dont think he will be fit for much without Axe

princess3901

I really like this show love the character Bobby Axelrod. However I find the character of Wendy Rhodes totally pointless. Really if she wasn't in it would she be missed?

Tony EH

At this point, I don't think she would. Not too much anyway. She's really just there to create drama now and her story - that of working in the organisation that Chuck is trying tro bring down - is becoming absurd. But, without that, she doesn't really have anything else.

There needs to be better writing for her in S3 and I think that will come in the shape of a falling out with Axelrod.

seligehgit

Tony EH wrote: »

At this point, I don't think she would. Not too much anyway. She's really just there to create drama now and her story - that of working in the organisation that Chuck is trying tro bring down - is becoming absurd. But, without that, she doesn't really have anything else.

There needs to be better writing for her in S3 and I think that will come in the shape of a falling out with Axelrod.

It's probably an off the wall suggestion but is there any chance it'll go the opposite with their respective marital issues..ak be drawn together in a romantic fashion??

_Kaiser_

Tony EH wrote: »

At this point, I don't think she would. Not too much anyway. She's really just there to create drama now and her story - that of working in the organisation that Chuck is trying tro bring down - is becoming absurd. But, without that, she doesn't really have anything else.

There needs to be better writing for her in S3 and I think that will come in the shape of a falling out with Axelrod.

I dunno.. I think she serves as the link between them - for whatever reason her loyalty to Axe and his guys means that she'll put them even above her relationship with Chuck and his ambitions. I think the reasons why that is could make a good story.

Even with Axe now seemingly cornered and her own marriage shaky, she's STILL standing by him... though I agree that with Axe and Lara seemingly also on the way out, things may get a lot more complicated for Wendy yet.

Pelvis

princess3901 wrote: »

I really like this show love the character Bobby Axelrod. However I find the character of Wendy Rhodes totally pointless. Really if she wasn't in it would she be missed?

Yes.

Roanmore

Hopefully we see more Mary Louise Parker in Season 3.

Bullocks

Roanmore wrote: »

Hopefully we see more Mary Louise Parker in Season 3.

I think Chuck and herself might get together

FreudianSlippers

Roanmore wrote: »

Hopefully we see more Mary Louise Parker in Season 3.

You're hilarious... great joke












Oh... you were beings serious? That's the worst acting on the show and an accent that is on the line of cringe-worthy. Literally every time she is on screen the show becomes a comedy.

Boom_Bap

Wendy is completely necessary for the show, the writers just don't focus on it as much now as they did in S1. She's still being fought over, she's a powerful woman in both their lives in different ways. She is getting involved in both Axe and Rhodes' worlds more deeply.

She alone can bring everything crashing for either or both if she chooses.

The writers are doing a marvellous job of not making it obvious but giving subtle nods to it when she is both on and off camera.

seligehgit

I find it bizarre that Wendy is thought to be some unnecessary extra in the show as she will probably be key to how the endgame pans out.

That investment she took anticipating the fall in the stock price of the juice company is going to bite back on Chuck's investigation with a vengeance.

So much more than that here we have a strong professional woman caught in a tug of war between two alpha males extraordinaire.

messy tessy

Bullocks wrote: »

Axe's wife was a scumbag for leaving before he got released

Axe's voicemails were pretty horrendous that he left her when she took off with the kids before all this kicked off. Am sorry Lara didn't get to hear them though and see what kind of 'scumbag' she is married to.

Really enjoyed the later episodes of this season. Pretty fantastic stuff, will be interesting to see how it all pans out!

Bullocks

messy tessy wrote: »

Axe's voicemails were pretty horrendous that he left her when she took off with the kids before all this kicked off. Am sorry Lara didn't get to hear them though and see what kind of 'scumbag' she is married to.

Really enjoyed the later episodes of this season. Pretty fantastic stuff, will be interesting to see how it all pans out!

I forgot about them ! Jaysus if she heard them she wouldn't have come back to go again .
Be interesting to say what way it goes next season alright , I can see Axe taking a fall .

messy tessy

seligehgit wrote: »

I find it bizarre that Wendy is thought to be some unnecessary extra in the show as she will probably be key to how the endgame pans out.

That investment she took anticipating the fall in the stock price of the juice company is going to bite back on Chuck's investigation with a vengeance.

So much more than that here we have a strong professional woman caught in a tug of war between two alpha males extraordinaire.

Also Axe dropped the law suits against Chuck on the condition that Wendy returned to the company. Bet he is regretting that decision now! :P

Mr E

Sunday March 25th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dKownfx75E

Thargor

Not watching that in case of spoilers, American companies have lost their minds with the trailers they put together these days. Great news though.

_Kaiser_

I will have to go back and watch the last 2 or 3 of the season I think as I've forgotten most of the setup to the above

Bullocks

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I will have to go back and watch the last 2 or 3 of the season I think as I've forgotten most of the setup to the above

Same as that , I'm looking forward to the new one

Reggie.

Bullocks wrote: »

Same as that , I'm looking forward to the new one

Sure bullock your just like himself with all the money...

Bullocks

Reggie. wrote: »

Sure bullock your just like himself with all the money...

Spoiler alert , I think like me Axel lose's all his money on cows and tractors haha

Reggie.

Bullocks wrote: »

Spoiler alert , I think like me Axel lose's all his money on cows and tractors haha

Well he did buy up that town

krustydoyle

I'll wait for the season to finish and binge watch it like i did with season 2.. Enjoyed it more that way

OldMrBrennan83

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Agent Coulson

John Malkovich joins as a guest cast member for season 3.

Kuva

tis back

OldMrBrennan83

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Clareman

Great return episode, reminds everyone of the dynamics in play and everyone's position. I loved the line "Just cause he watches Bruce Lee movies doesn't mean he knows Karate"(sic), I'm going to use that

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Clareman

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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He'd have his personal money, they froze Axe Capital's money. He's also have a lot of lines of credit

_Kaiser_

Ah I've missed this show! Really enjoyed that opener

joe40

I'm delighted this show is back, I really enjoyed the season 1 & 2, especially 2. The show is a bit underrated it doesn't get the same attention as others but the writing and acting is top notch

seligehgit

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Ah I've missed this show! Really enjoyed that opener

TBH I didn't think it anything spectacular,solid opener.

Ax and Brian both have new ladies,defo don't recall Brian's new girlfriend or am I losing it?!Not sure if I like a neutered Ax and Taylor isn't bad enough.:D

You just know Rhodes role via Daddy's money in the juice company is going to leak out.Looks like Chuck is going to ignore the AG's instructions re a light touch.

Johnnywaters

High quality opener I thought

Thargor

I wish they'd never brought that stupid dominatrix crap into it, its pure cringe.

Johnnywaters

Thargor wrote: »

I wish they'd never brought that stupid dominatrix crap into it, its pure cringe.

It's a bit silly for sure