Cork South Central in Next General Election

byronbay2

Only realised from reading this thread yesterday that it looks like I will be shunted from the Cork South Central constituency to Cork North Central in the next election. I live on College Road. It's hard to tell definitively where the constituency boundary is from the map: can anyone confirm whether College Road has been moved to CNC?

I know it's a first-world problem but I would not be happy with this situation at all. I am currently represented by top-class public servants in Simon Coveney, and Michael Martin; people with power and gravitas. Am I supposed to start depending on Billy Kelleher and Kathleen Lynch (should they retain their seats) to represent me now??

More serious questions also come to mind. In particular, what will this change do to property prices in the area? Will my children start being bullied as "Norries" while attending their prestigious Southside schools. Are they likely to pick up "the accent" from living in the Northside constituency? Most worryingly of all: is my teenage daughter at risk of putting on a lot of weight and becoming a single mum?

I'm at my wits end here. Any help or advice would be much appreciated!

Cape Clear

byronbay2 wrote: »

Only realised from reading this thread yesterday that it looks like I will be shunted from the Cork South Central constituency to Cork North Central in the next election. I live on College Road. It's hard to tell definitively where the constituency boundary is from the map: can anyone confirm whether College Road has been moved to CNC?

I know it's a first-world problem but I would not be happy with this situation at all. I am currently represented by top-class public servants in Simon Coveney, and Michael Martin; people with power and gravitas. Am I supposed to start depending on Billy Kelleher and Kathleen Lynch (should they retain their seats) to represent me now??

More serious questions also come to mind. In particular, what will this change do to property prices in the area? Will my children start being bullied as "Norries" while attending their prestigious Southside schools. Are they likely to pick up "the accent" from living in the Northside constituency? Most worryingly of all: is my teenage daughter at risk of putting on a lot of weight and becoming a single mum?

I'm at my wits end here. Any help or advice would be much appreciated!

Slime-on son of Hugh look after the boys and Mehole the teacher the only thing those 2 are top class at is feathering their own nest.

kub

byronbay2 wrote: »

Only realised from reading this thread yesterday that it looks like I will be shunted from the Cork South Central constituency to Cork North Central in the next election. I live on College Road. It's hard to tell definitively where the constituency boundary is from the map: can anyone confirm whether College Road has been moved to CNC?

I know it's a first-world problem but I would not be happy with this situation at all. I am currently represented by top-class public servants in Simon Coveney, and Michael Martin; people with power and gravitas. Am I supposed to start depending on Billy Kelleher and Kathleen Lynch (should they retain their seats) to represent me now??

More serious questions also come to mind. In particular, what will this change do to property prices in the area? Will my children start being bullied as "Norries" while attending their prestigious Southside schools. Are they likely to pick up "the accent" from living in the Northside constituency? Most worryingly of all: is my teenage daughter at risk of putting on a lot of weight and becoming a single mum?

I'm at my wits end here. Any help or advice would be much appreciated!

What College Rd in CNC, what about The Bons and UCC have they also gone that way?

calnand

As far as I can work out on the very bad maps available, it looks like the Glasheen/wilton roads will be the new border

byronbay2

kub wrote: »

What College Rd in CNC, what about The Bons and UCC have they also gone that way?

Yeah, all CNC now by the look of things - even Pres ffs! I don't think The Poor Clares will be very happy about this either, although they will probably not be too vocal with their complaints!







Little Cork in-joke there!

Brussels Sprout

I see FG are just running their sitting TDs


Hopefully that's the end of Deirdre Clune's political career then.

Cape Clear

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

I see FG are just running their sitting TDs


Hopefully that's the end of Deirdre Clune's political career then.

Once the supply of money is there Clune will always be able to $ecure a nomination if she want's it.

sozbox

Clune is an MEP, pretty sure her political career is doing fines

Brussels Sprout

sozbox wrote: »

Clune is an MEP, pretty sure her political career is doing fines

urgh forgot about that

Brussels Sprout

Not much value in the PP market:




5 candidates are odds on despite the fact there are only 4 seats :rolleyes:

sozbox

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Not much value in the PP market:




5 candidates are odds on despite the fact there are only 4 seats :rolleyes:

I see can Lynch losing his seat and votes going to SF with the outcome as:

2 FF
1 FG
1 SF

mikeym

Sinn Fein have never done well in Cork South Central.

2 FG.
2 FF.

And I wont be voting for FG or FF.

sozbox

mikeym wrote: »

Sinn Fein have never done well in Cork South Central.

2 FG.
2 FF.

And I wont be voting for FG or FF.

I'd see MM, MMcG and SC as bankers. I do see SF in with a chance of taking Jerry's seat though. I say that as a FG voter.

Brussels Sprout

Buttimer favourite now to take the 4th seat:

Brussels Sprout

Buttimer favourite now to take the 4th seat:

CZ 453

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Buttimer favourite now to take the 4th seat:

That'll be a close seat. Buttimer will be put out by having to shift his main base(From Bishopstown to Douglas). O Laoighaire has a solid base in the Togher/Ballyphehane region.

byronbay2

byronbay2 wrote: »

Only realised from reading this thread yesterday that it looks like I will be shunted from the Cork South Central constituency to Cork North Central in the next election. I live on College Road. It's hard to tell definitively where the constituency boundary is from the map: can anyone confirm whether College Road has been moved to CNC?

I know it's a first-world problem but I would not be happy with this situation at all. I am currently represented by top-class public servants in Simon Coveney, and Michael Martin; people with power and gravitas. Am I supposed to start depending on Billy Kelleher and Kathleen Lynch (should they retain their seats) to represent me now??

More serious questions also come to mind. In particular, what will this change do to property prices in the area? Will my children start being bullied as "Norries" while attending their prestigious Southside schools. Are they likely to pick up "the accent" from living in the Northside constituency? Most worryingly of all: is my teenage daughter at risk of putting on a lot of weight and becoming a single mum?

I'm at my wits end here. Any help or advice would be much appreciated!

Well, it's official: College Road is now in CNC. I work as a presiding officer at elections and could always transfer my vote to the polling station (Southside, obvs) where I worked. Got a letter from the City Sheriff last week letting me know that I would need to apply for a postal vote if I wanted to vote in "my" constituency of CNC. Needless to say, I didn't bother my arse applying!

mikeym

The list of candidates running in Cork South Central.

http://www.rte.ie/news/election-2016/constituencies/cork-south-central/


I really hope those on lower incomes turn out and vote because if they do we wont have 2 FG and 2 FF Td's.

Brussels Sprout

I see Renua finally have announced a candidate.

He doesn't sound like a very Renua-ie candidate.

(Side note: that bio looks like it was written by a 10 year old. Ciaran... Ciaran...... Ciaran.....)

Brussels Sprout

Double post: May as well make use of it. Surprising Renua couldn't find their usual entrenpeneur/professional class candidate to beat the drum for their pro business/lower taxation. This guy seems more like a Labour or Sinn Fein cadidate.

CZ 453

They could run Jesus and he'd struggle for that 4th seat. That dude is just been blooded for the future. It's the group of death. Coveney, Martin, McGrath, Lynch, Buttimer, and a strong outsider in O Laoighaire.

orthsquel

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

I see Renua finally have announced a candidate.

I'm genuinely surprised by this as Renua have had their candidate information up for ages (since November maybe?)... and I noticed back then there was nobody for CSC, but there was someone for other Cork constituencies.. and in more recent checks there had been no update, even just over a week ago. I'd more or less dismissed the idea of there being a Renua candidate because they did go through the whole selection process a few months ago and I thought the whole thing was done and dusted. I'm bemused why they would give it a go at what is in my view, such a late stage (despite an election not even being called yet) relative to their own activities in selection process (edit: except, as above, to give them the experience of it.)

KCAccidental

orthsquel wrote: »

I'm genuinely surprised by this as Renua have had their candidate information up for ages (since November maybe?)... and I noticed back then there was nobody for CSC, but there was someone for other Cork constituencies.. and in more recent checks there had been no update, even just over a week ago. I'd more or less dismissed the idea of there being a Renua candidate because they did go through the whole selection process a few months ago and I thought the whole thing was done and dusted. I'm bemused why they would give it a go at what is in my view, such a late stage (despite an election not even being called yet) relative to their own activities in selection process (edit: except, as above, to give them the experience of it.)

more than likely a dry run for the locals.

lostinsuperfunk

(Side note: that bio looks like it was written by a 10 year old. Ciaran... Ciaran...... Ciaran.....)

8,500,000 people on the housing list in Cork City. I know Cork is great and all, and that everyone wants to live here, but seriously...

etoughguy

Such is my lack of interest in politicians I'm just going to vote the old reliable back in, Jack Lynch number one for me

Bacchus

lostinsuperfunk wrote: »

8,500,000 people on the housing list in Cork City. I know Cork is great and all, and that everyone wants to live here, but seriously...

My God, that's so bad.

It's also quite depressing what choice there is in CSC, especially when 3 of the seats look a dead cert already. Last time round I voted Labour but I'm not exactly sure what it is they did in government that they deserve another shot. I guess that's always the problem with the smaller party in a joint government.

I won't touch SF or FF with a barge poll. I don't believe in what the AAA are doing... good voice to have in opposition. I've no interest in GP or either of the Independents. Which leaves me FG. A strong Renua candidate might have been interesting but Ciaran "2,500 thousand" Kenneally doesn't inspire confidence.

kub

lostinsuperfunk wrote: »

8,500,000 people on the housing list in Cork City. I know Cork is great and all, and that everyone wants to live here, but seriously...

Eight and a half million people on the Cork City Housing waiting list? From where

Cape Clear

byronbay2 wrote: »

Well, it's official: College Road is now in CNC. I work as a presiding officer at elections and could always transfer my vote to the polling station (Southside, obvs) where I worked. Got a letter from the City Sheriff last week letting me know that I would need to apply for a postal vote if I wanted to vote in "my" constituency of CNC. Needless to say, I didn't bother my arse applying!

No sympathy for you so! Most people work on election day and have to move things around in order to vote nobody is forcing you to be a presiding officer sounds like you have more interest in coin than democracy !

dulpit

kub wrote: »

Eight and a half million people on the Cork City Housing waiting list? From where

The Renua candidate mentioned that there are 8,500 thousand people on waiting list.. :rolleyes:

Bacchus wrote: »

It's also quite depressing what choice there is in CSC

I would say CSC is very well served with choice. Some excellent candidates available across a number of parties. Try coming to the northside, we have a bunch of absolute gombeens available to vote for, massive difference in quality between the 2 constituencies...

Bacchus

dulpit wrote: »

I would say CSC is very well served with choice. Some excellent candidates available across a number of parties. Try coming to the northside, we have a bunch of absolute gombeens available to vote for, massive difference in quality between the 2 constituencies...

I guess the FF, FG and Labour candidates are strong but I don't see a strong alternative that appeals to me... that's probably more of a nationwide problem really as opposed to a CSC problem

kub

dulpit wrote: »

The Renua candidate mentioned that there are 8,500 thousand people on waiting list.. :rolleyes:

I quoted a previous poster who had the following figure down which is 8,500,000. So i am not sure where your :rolleyes: is coming from.

CianDon

kub wrote: »

I quoted a previous poster who had the following figure down which is 8,500,000. So i am not sure where your :rolleyes: is coming from.

Get out you calculator, multiply 8,500 x thousand, then return here and accept your :rolleyes:

kub

lostinsuperfunk wrote: »

8,500,000 people on the housing list in Cork City. I know Cork is great and all, and that everyone wants to live here, but seriously...

Original post is above

CianDon wrote: »

Get out you calculator, multiply 8,500 x thousand, then return here and accept your :rolleyes:

I don't need a calculator for that, i am not sure what you require to read the above post though

clerk

dulpit wrote: »

I would say CSC is very well served with choice. Some excellent candidates available across a number of parties.

You could argue they're not the worst pick certainly but have they delivered for the area ?

Local facilities/community centre's - no
Cork Airport - no, arguably outside the direct area but huge knock on impact.
Event Centre - no
P ui C - is a mess, no
Jobs - yes to a reasonable extent
Infrastructure - Blackrock village is a nightmare now at peak times and the double decker buses can barely get down the road. Plus the decade long promises of development of the village. No.
Taxes - sky high
Disposable income - bolloxed for most people as you see in local businesses
Local library - no

So l'm disappointed in their performance, particularly the ones in power, they simply have not delivered for the area at all.

As for FF, simply Q to them, who are they going into power with ? they seem to have committed to nobody, so whats the point voting for an opposition party. Mind you loads will vote for FF anyway as that's the way we roll in South Central.

dulpit

kub wrote: »

I quoted a previous poster who had the following figure down which is 8,500,000. So i am not sure where your :rolleyes: is coming from.

The :rolleyes: was for the Renua candidate, not any poster here.. (sorry for any confusion caused)

dulpit

clerk wrote: »

You could argue they're not the worst pick certainly but have they delivered for the area ?

Local facilities/community centre's - no
Cork Airport - no, arguably outside the direct area but huge knock on impact.
Event Centre - no
P ui C - is a mess, no
Jobs - yes to a reasonable extent
Infrastructure - Blackrock village is a nightmare now at peak times and the double decker buses can barely get down the road. Plus the decade long promises of development of the village. No.
Taxes - sky high
Disposable income - bolloxed for most people as you see in local businesses
Local library - no

Apart from taxes and arguably the airport, all the other issues you mention are for local councillors, not national representatives....

clerk

dulpit wrote: »

Apart from taxes and arguably the airport, all the other issues you mention are for local councillors, not national representatives....

Yes, but when you talk to Councillors all they keep telling you is that they don't have the budgets. So they're either useless or irrelevant.

The local TD's are supposed to represent the area and they seem to the only people that can influence budgets so we'll agree to disagree.

opus

Anyone noticed the election posters for Mikey Martin have lopped off the very top of his head? A friend pointed it out to me & now that's all I can see when I look at them

dulpit

opus wrote: »

Anyone noticed the election posters for Mikey Martin have lopped off the very top of his head? A friend pointed it out to me & now that's all I can see when I look at them

Maybe he's particularly sensitive about a bald spot? :pac:

pwurple

opus wrote: »

Anyone noticed the election posters for Mikey Martin have lopped off the very top of his head? A friend pointed it out to me & now that's all I can see when I look at them

They've also 'lopped off' his shoulders. Don't shoulders matter to your friend!? Won't somebody think of the shoulders!

Or, it's zoomed in.

byronbay2

Cape Clear wrote: »

No sympathy for you so! Most people work on election day and have to move things around in order to vote nobody is forcing you to be a presiding officer sounds like you have more interest in coin than democracy !

It is a handy payday alright! Still, I always voted when I was in the CSC constituency. I just don't believe that the politicians voted into CNC will give much thought to their Southside constituents, with the possible exception of Bishopstown. I think the people of Graun, Knocka, Farranree etc. are their core support and that's where they will concentrate their efforts.

dulpit wrote: »

I would say CSC is very well served with choice. Some excellent candidates available across a number of parties. Try coming to the northside, we have a bunch of absolute gombeens available to vote for, massive difference in quality between the 2 constituencies...

This.

mikeym

I switched over to TV3 just now and the Peoples Debate is on featuring the Candidates from Cork South.

I'll watch it on catchup tomorrow.

CZ 453

I'd be interested to hear what people think on the Debate?

sozbox

Jerry came across well I thought. I've never seen him in a debate before and always assumed he was quiet. Tough constituency!

CZ 453

I thought McGrath and Lynch did well. I didn't think O'Laoighaire did as well. The AAA, PBP and Independents all seemed to be a bit off the wall ranting.

deanh

Is the AAA candidate is from Dublin? She has a bizzare accent in any case.

pwurple

Caught a couple of minutes of that, but I'd say it was the wrong few minutes. The part I saw had McGrath and Martin talking about how loads more houses needed to be built... how the economy would boom with loads of builders working

I chuckled and had to turn it off. Nostalgia? Remember how good we had it when there were 110% mortgages! LOL

byronbay2

I watched most of it - good craic, in fairness. The funniest part was Vincent Browne's introductions of the candidates, he made so many ridiculous mistakes (Simon Coveney a TD since 1988??) and seemed to know absolutely nothing about the independent candidates. He then brought in PJ Coogan from "Cork's Red FM"!

As CZ 453 said, the independents did not come out well: cared about their own little interest (unemployment/water charges/housing etc.) and NOTHING else. One guy seemed hardly able to speak and showed no interest whatsoever in the debate.

Of the major candidates, I thought Michael McGrath and Ciaran Lynch (although he probably won't be re-elected) were good while Micheal Martin was poor. I just can't take him seriously, complaining about how badly the government is performing when he was personally (partly) responsible for the country going broke! I think he should stick to saying what's he's going to do if FF get back into government rather than digging at FG/Lab. Still, it seems like he still has lots of supporters and will be re-elected :eek:

FrStone

byronbay2 wrote: »

It is a handy payday alright! Still, I always voted when I was in the CSC constituency. I just don't believe that the politicians voted into CNC will give much thought to their Southside constituents, with the possible exception of Bishopstown. I think the people of Graun, Knocka, Farranree etc. are their core support and that's where they will concentrate their efforts.



This.

You could have at least registered to vote, and voted to keep the likes of Mick Barry or sinn fein out.

Cork north central has a large rural population who have never been too enamoured with being lumped in with what is possibly the most working class constituency outside of Dublin.

pwurple

byronbay2 wrote: »

I think he should stick to saying what's he's going to do if FF get back into government rather than digging at FG/Lab. Still, it seems like he still has lots of supporters and will be re-elected :eek:

Michael martin is the leader of FF, so from a purely "Being Famous" perspective, people knowing who he is, he will top the poll. For some voters it's not so much about policy, as name recognition.

I'm not a fan of the party, but he'll still get into my top 6, because he is a professional and experienced politician, and not some one-hit-wonder blow-in.