MOD Warning post #20 Late Late Show, March 27th

amdublin

brooke 2 wrote: »

It has been on Politics.ie all week. Even Journal.ie are allowing
comments now.

Feel free to discuss it on any one of these websites.

amdublin

United Chester Man - see post no #20, post no #431 and the warning in post #1 re your post.


MOD:
All, thanks for last night.
Rather than dragging this thread off topic, and discussing why or why not, what can't be mentioned can't be mentioned, the place to bring that up for discussion is over on the Feedback forum.

I'd prefer not to do this but if the thread goes off topic I will have to lock it.

coolhull

amdublin wrote: »

United Chester Man - see post no #20, post no #431 and the warning in post #1 re your post.


MOD:
All, thanks for last night.
Rather than dragging this thread off topic, and discussing why or why not, what can't be mentioned can't be mentioned, the place to bring that up for discussion is over on the Feedback forum.

I'd prefer not to do this but if the thread goes off topic I waill have to lock it.

Maybe its just me, but I enjoyed that period last night when we had to 'maintain radio silence,' as it were. The horror of the case in question didn't exactly lend itself to levity.
And we picked up some tips on making crisp sandwiches. Plus we learned about the weather in various parts of the country, along with reminders to adjust our clocks.
So everyone's a winner!
I wonder if we should have a period of silence every Friday night. Like maybe during one of Louis Walshe's almost weekly appearances. The only way to treat Tubridy's fascination with canteen nobodies is with contemptible
indifference.

Welsh Megaman

coolhull wrote: »

Maybe its just me, but I enjoyed that period last night when we had to 'maintain radio silence,' as it were. The horror of the case in question didn't exactly lend itself to levity.
And we picked up some tips on making crisp sandwiches. Plus we learned about the weather in various parts of the country, along with reminders to adjust our clocks.
So everyone's a winner!
I wonder if we should have a period of silence every Friday night. Like maybe during one of Louis Walshe's almost weekly appearances. The only way to treat Tubridy's fascination with canteen nobodies is with contemptible
indifference.

Agreed.

Plus, I also learned that there are Nando's restaurants in Ireland, yet you Irish yearn for Greggs

Skid X

Welsh Megaman wrote: »

Agreed.

Plus, I also learned that there are Nando's restaurants in Ireland, yet you Irish yearn for Greggs

Also, Wetherspoons have established a beachhead, two outlets in Blackrock and Dun Laoghaire with more to come.

€2.50 a pint!!

I think Coolhull is onto something there. The Off Topic Interlude made a nice change from the Misery Slot.

United Chester Men

amdublin wrote: »

United Chester Man - see post no #20, post no #431 and the warning in post #1 re your post.


MOD:
All, thanks for last night.
Rather than dragging this thread off topic, and discussing why or why not, what can't be mentioned can't be mentioned, the place to bring that up for discussion is over on the Feedback forum.

I'd prefer not to do this but if the thread goes off topic I will have to lock it.

I already saw those posts........ Hence the question! As I said it was a genuine question and wasn't off topic considering the situation! (Definitely more on topic than crisp sandwhiches! ) I was only asking what instructions such sites are given but I appreciate if you cannot (dont want to) answer. Thanks anyway. Won't ask again.

LiamNeeson

Skid X wrote: »

Emma Thompson, there's a great actress.

Best actor in Love Actually by a mile (Sorry Liam)

but what about my brogue in Michael Collins?

Ol' Donie

coolhull wrote: »

Maybe its just me, but I enjoyed that period last night when we had to 'maintain radio silence,' as it were. The horror of the case in question didn't exactly lend itself to levity.
And we picked up some tips on making crisp sandwiches. Plus we learned about the weather in various parts of the country, along with reminders to adjust our clocks.
So everyone's a winner!
I wonder if we should have a period of silence every Friday night. Like maybe during one of Louis Walshe's almost weekly appearances. The only way to treat Tubridy's fascination with canteen nobodies is with contemptible
indifference.

That's a great post. Totally agree.

If there is an eejit on the SNS later, I shall be asking for more detail on what's good about Gregg's.

And how anyone doesn't like Nando's. (Or more specifically, totally spicy chicken (and chips & sweetcorn - I pour that stuff everywhere, baby. Yeah!)).

Lady Chatterton

Mod Note


There has been lots of questions as to why Boards.ie have not allowed any discussion on a recent high profile case.

One of the Legal Discussion Moderators, Hullaballoo has posted in the Feedback Forum to explain things further, it's worth reading.

hullaballoo wrote: »

I'm not too sure where to begin in relation to this stuff so I'll just start out by saying that the sub judice rule is in place to protect the integrity of the justice system. It protects both the accused person, the alleged victim and society in general. That is because if people were allowed to speak freely and publicly, there is a risk that this could have an influence on the outcome of the case. For example, if some evidence that the jury wasn't allowed to see is reported on or discussed publicly, there is a real risk the jurors will hear or read about it and that could have a massive impact on the outcome of the case - in other words, it could prejudice the accused person to such an extent that it directly leads to a conviction.

Contempt of court is an overlapping but separate issue - that is where someone does something that interferes with the workings of the courts (to put it plainly). That's a crime and it's largely up to the trial judge to deal with it there and then. Public discussion of an ongoing case might not quite reach the threshold for contempt of court but it could still be enough to prejudice the accused.

What happens when these things are discussed publicly is that the defence will invariably point to the ongoing reporting and debate as being something that necessarily effected the outcome of the case. No one is necessarily "liable" for the prejudice - it's usually more of a cumulative thing where reporting is so widespread and discussion so loose that in combination, this meant that the tribunal (judge + jury) must have been effected by it. Even if one person or outlet was deemed to have been the one who prejudiced the jury, the likelihood is that they would not be brought before the court to answer for it, unless they were also in contempt.

Also, you can't be sued by anyone for contempt - you can for defamation but I'm not getting into that here because I don't believe it's directly relevant in this case. What is important to say is that a take down notice, as some have suggested, is utterly useless regarding cases of prejudice. Once it is posted/printed/uttered, that's that. It's prejudiced the accused. No take backs.

So, the reality is that the ban is in place on boards not because boards can't fund litigation where litigation is unlikely but because of the principle of it. I personally certainly wouldn't like to have something I'd posted here being raised by someone on trial as evidence of prejudice and I doubt many others would like to feel like they contributed to either (a) effecting the case one way or another, or (b) seeing someone they believe to be guilty get an aquittal.

As for the other outlets who have reported on the case or allowed discussion, let them at it. If they're happy enough to risk the consequences of openly prejudicing an ongoing case, that's up to them. Boards management or whoever have obviously decided that the risk isn't worth it. FWIW, I agree with that decision because I've seen how incapable some people are of keeping their shit together when it comes to discussions about this sort of thing.

Regarding the actual case at hand, whilst the jury have made a decision, there is still sentencing. I agree that lifting the ban should be considered at this point because as others have pointed out, the judge can only do one thing. Having said that, though, I fully expect that the verdict will be appealed fully and that probably has a bearing on whoever is making this decision on boards.ie's behalf.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94869280&postcount=38

darkdubh

thelad95 wrote: »

In regards to the time management issue, didn't Gaybo regularly run over time if a guest was worth it? I mean what's on after the LLS that's so important anyway?

I just think Ryan is crippled by his inability to move away from his crib cards.

Yes,I remember it running over time a good bit in Gaybos day,then the flexability was there,they weren't overly worried about cutting off a good interview so people could see A Prayer At Bedtime(or whatever came after The LLS then) on schedule.

sligojoek

darkdubh wrote: »

Yes,I remember it running over time a good bit in Gaybos day,then the flexability was there,they weren't overly worried about cutting off a good interview so people could see A Prayer At Bedtime(or whatever came after The LLS then) on schedule.

News headlines, national anthem and Closedown

United Chester Men

sligojoek wrote: »

News headlines, national anthem and Closedown

Wow, Theresa Lowe was a cracker!

Also, never knew Late Late was on Saturdays all those years back!

mzungu

Fraggle Rock, The A-Team, The Late Late Show followed by Miami Vice...now thats a Saturday night line up worth staying in for.

CountyHurler

mzungu wrote: »

Fraggle Rock, The A-Team, The Late Late Show followed by Miami Vice...now thats a Saturday night line up worth staying in for.

wtf.. no Highway To Heaven... I refusing to take my Saturday night bath until Michael Landon is reinstated... :mad:

mzungu

CountyHurler wrote: »

wtf.. no Highway To Heaven... I refusing to take my Saturday night bath until Michael Landon is reinstated... :mad:

Ah now...Highway to Heaven is strictly a Sunday job

Ping Chow Chi

mzungu wrote: »

Ah now...Highway to Heaven is strictly a Sunday job

along with lovejoy!

United Chester Men

None Comes remotely close to Mcgyver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNl9M5TxGC8

BuilderPlumber

mzungu wrote: »

Fraggle Rock, The A-Team, The Late Late Show followed by Miami Vice...now thats a Saturday night line up worth staying in for.

That must have been the last year the Late Late Show was on Saturday? Because I remember shortly after this:

Kenny Live used to be on Saturdays.
Dallas was on Saturdays before it often.
Miami Vice was on Monday.

I never heard of Hawaiian Heat at all.

United Chester Men

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

That must have been the last year the Late Late Show was on Saturday? Because I remember shortly after this:

Kenny Live used to be on Saturdays.
Dallas was on Saturdays before it often.
Miami Vice was on Monday.

I never heard of Hawaiian Heat at all.

kenny live began in 1988

sligojoek

F*cking show offs.

All we had was Late news and weather. Prayers. National anthem and Closedown

BuilderPlumber

United Chester Men wrote: »

kenny live began in 1988

That's correct. I did a bit of research. Saturday Live was what came before that and 1986 appears to have been the last year of Gaybo's show being on Saturdays.

BuilderPlumber

sligojoek wrote: »

F*cking show offs.

All we had was Late news and weather. Prayers. National anthem and Closedown

That would have probably being earlier than 1985. I remember there was a time when stations closed very early during the week and were later the weekend. Overall, TV was generally better and less celeb/reality culture back then too.

mzungu

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

That must have been the last year the Late Late Show was on Saturday? Because I remember shortly after this:

Kenny Live used to be on Saturdays.
Dallas was on Saturdays before it often.
Miami Vice was on Monday.

I never heard of Hawaiian Heat at all.

Yep, I only ever recall Kenny on the Saturday and Gaybo on Fridays.

Hawaiian Heat rings no bells here either....cant even be arsed to google it

mzungu

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

That would have probably being earlier than 1985. I remember there was a time when stations closed very early during the week and were later the weekend. Overall, TV was generally better and less celeb/reality culture back then too.

Yep, you really knew it was past the bedtime stage when the closedown came on. I cant recall any celeb style shows either, TV was all the better for it though.

sligojoek

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

That would have probably being earlier than 1985. I remember there was a time when stations closed very early during the week and were later the weekend. Overall, TV was generally better and less celeb/reality culture back then too.

I think you're right.

Back around then we started getting BBC 1 and 2, ITV and Channel4 on a deflecter system. It was a treat to come home from work in the pub and have something to watch. Music, snooker etc. Anything bar closedown.

coolhull

Of course, you young whippersnappers
wouldn't remember when Ireland had only one channel, RTE, which opened at half five in the evening and closed again at eleven. Some, but not all areas could pick up an ITV channel from an aerial, but the reception was usually poor and snowy.
.Gay and the Late Late was the highlight of the week then, and often provided the topic of conversation for the whole week in the pub.
Truly, the past is a different country.

BuilderPlumber

mzungu wrote: »

Yep, I only ever recall Kenny on the Saturday and Gaybo on Fridays.

Hawaiian Heat rings no bells here either....cant even be arsed to google it

I asked a friend. Hawaiian Heat seems to have been a shortlived cop series. Some sort of an update to the more famous Hawaii 50 perhaps and an answer to Miami Vice maybe? I remember Magnum PI was set in Hawaii and as far as I am aware this was always called that. Hawaiian Heat is probably one of the many series that did not prove to be a hit and that probably only lasted a pilot and a few episodes.

mzungu

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

I asked a friend. Hawaiian Heat seems to have been a shortlived cop series. Some sort of an update to the more famous Hawaii 50 perhaps and an answer to Miami Vice maybe? I remember Magnum PI was set in Hawaii and as far as I am aware this was always called that. Hawaiian Heat is probably one of the many series that did not prove to be a hit and that probably only lasted a pilot and a few episodes.

For my sins I did a wiki job on it.

Hawaiian Heat is an American drama television series that premiered on ABC on September 14, 1984. It starred Robert Ginty and Jeff McCracken as two Chicago cops who quit their jobs in the Windy City to become detectives in Hawaii. Their boss at the Honolulu Police Department was played by veteran actor Mako. Many of the episodes were directed by reclusive African-American actor/director Ivan Dixon. Only eleven episodes aired on ABC, including the pilot movie. Its theme song, "Goodbye Blues", is now used by online video producer Brad Jones as the theme for his show "80's Dan".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_Heat

It sure does seem like some sub standard Miami Vice / Magnum PI hybrid, well called. Also says it ran for 11 episodes before getting the axe. One of the lead actors in it jammed with Hendrix and Johnny Lee Hooker if his wiki can be trusted.

So the burning question here is...what exactly replaced Hawaiian Heat when its 11 episode run came to a finish? :P

Skid X

United Chester Men wrote: »

Wow, Theresa Lowe was a cracker!

Also, never knew Late Late was on Saturdays all those years back!

Tubs has had long enough, they should give Crockett a chance to present the LLS

mzungu

Skid X wrote: »

Tubs has had long enough, they should give Crockett a chance to present the LLS

Good April fools gag right there, shame its a day late. Don Johnson to host the Late Late to be joined by his trusty sidekick Edward James Olmos. I would buy that for a dollar, as that lad from Robocop once said.

BuilderPlumber

mzungu wrote: »

For my sins I did a wiki job on it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_Heat

It sure does seem like some sub standard Miami Vice / Magnum PI hybrid, well called. Also says it ran for 11 episodes before getting the axe. One of the lead actors in it jammed with Hendrix and Johnny Lee Hooker if his wiki can be trusted.

So the burning question here is...what exactly replaced Hawaiian Heat when its 11 episode run came to a finish? :P

Probably McGyver or one of these?? That certainly was on Saturdays at this time but maybe not as early as 1985?

mzungu

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Probably McGyver or one of these?? That certainly was on Saturdays at this time but maybe not as early as 1985?

From what I recall Mcguyver was 1987 or 1988 onwards on RTE 1 from 7-8pm or 8-9pm. Hawaiian Heat may have been a filler in between series Miami Vice, so that could have replaced it.

Welsh Megaman

mzungu wrote: »

From what I recall Mcguyver was 1987 or 1988 onwards on RTE 1 from 7-8pm or 8-9pm

AUNT SELMA HAS ONE HOUR TO LIVE

BuilderPlumber

mzungu wrote: »

From what I recall Mcguyver was 1987 or 1988 onwards on RTE 1 from 7-8pm or 8-9pm. Hawaiian Heat may have been a filler in between series Miami Vice, so that could have replaced it.

I'd think the same with McGyver. I think I recall Mission Impossible and a Star Trek series on at some stage too at that time Saturdays?

BuilderPlumber

mzungu wrote: »

From what I recall Mcguyver was 1987 or 1988 onwards on RTE 1 from 7-8pm or 8-9pm. Hawaiian Heat may have been a filler in between series Miami Vice, so that could have replaced it.

I think Miami Vice was always on later as it had very adult content. A great series far ahead of its time, it would not have been allowed on before 9 then or even now. We must also recall then that native Irish drama would be more the Glenroe than Love/Hate but that said and done, all US shows were shown. Interestingly enough, many of the more violent episodes of Miami Vice were never shown on Irish TV at the time. One of these ironically was called Asian Cut, all about a respectable professional with a dark side (killing prostitutes ritualistically with a knife).

Skid X

It's quite hard to get old RTE schedules online. There are a few listed here, but none from 1983

http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/?id=6:ca



The BBC launched a searchable archive for their old listings recently, which is a great source of information

http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/


It would be nice to have an Irish equivalent.

BuilderPlumber

Skid X wrote: »

It's quite hard to get old RTE schedules online. There are a few listed here, but none from 1983

http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/?id=6:ca



The BBC launched a searchable archive for their old listings recently, which is a great source of information

http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/


It would be nice to have an Irish equivalent.

It would be interesting to see how similar to today these were. While today's TV is dominated by reality TV, I think game shows were the equivalent back then. There was one with Twink called Charades (as far as I know that was the name) on a Friday in the early evening. Mike Murphy doing quizzes and 'candid camera' was also very common.

Also, when did the Closedown End? I miss certain aspects of this. It was nice and personal to have someone saying goodnight and thanks for watching, also it was good to see a list of highlights for the next day. I think this could STILL be done around 12 or so after major programmes end. E.g. After the Late Late Show or Saturday Night Show.

mzungu

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

I'd think the same with McGyver. I think I recall Mission Impossible and a Star Trek series on at some stage too at that time Saturdays?

Mission Impossible, the 80s reboot aired in the 1989/1990 season. When that was cancelled then they started showing the 1960s version instead, that was from 8-9pm Saturdays. Star Trek TNG aired sometime around 1991 onwards if memory serves.

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

I think Miami Vice was always on later as it had very adult content. A great series far ahead of its time, it would not have been allowed on before 9 then or even now. We must also recall then that native Irish drama would be more the Glenroe than Love/Hate but that said and done, all US shows were shown. Interestingly enough, many of the more violent episodes of Miami Vice were never shown on Irish TV at the time. One of these ironically was called Asian Cut, all about a respectable professional with a dark side (killing prostitutes ritualistically with a knife).

Yep, your right there, it was later in the evening, I think possibly 9:30 on Sundays or Mondays. It does not surprise me one bit that they edited the show to pieces. That plotline for Asian Cut would not have gone down well in 80s Ireland, in fact id say if RTE aired something like that all involved would be shown the door fairly pronto!

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

It would be interesting to see how similar to today these were. While today's TV is dominated by reality TV, I think game shows were the equivalent back then. There was one with Twink called Charades (as far as I know that was the name) on a Friday in the early evening. Mike Murphy doing quizzes and 'candid camera' was also very common.

Also, when did the Closedown End? I miss certain aspects of this. It was nice and personal to have someone saying goodnight and thanks for watching, also it was good to see a list of highlights for the next day. I think this could STILL be done around 12 or so after major programmes end. E.g. After the Late Late Show or Saturday Night Show.

This times a million. Its one thing that strikes me watching the closedowns on YouTube, they were usually delivered in a genuinely warm and pleasant manner. A nice way to finish off the day, things like that just do not exist on TV these days. Call me crazy....but I think we were all far better off when TV ended at the ungodly hour of 11:30pm:P

Skid X

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

It would be interesting to see how similar to today these were. While today's TV is dominated by reality TV, I think game shows were the equivalent back then. There was one with Twink called Charades (as far as I know that was the name) on a Friday in the early evening. Mike Murphy doing quizzes and 'candid camera' was also very common.

Also, when did the Closedown End? I miss certain aspects of this. It was nice and personal to have someone saying goodnight and thanks for watching, also it was good to see a list of highlights for the next day. I think this could STILL be done around 12 or so after major programmes end. E.g. After the Late Late Show or Saturday Night Show.

There was a recent chat about closedown here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057391245
I agree, it would give a bit of character to the station and make it look a little different from the hundreds of other channels which exist on satellite and cable.

I would love to see more quizzes back again. They were always popular on RTE but they have gone out of fashion. I think something like Challenging Times or Know Your Sport would do well now. That charades one was called 'Play The Game'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_the_Game_%28Irish_game_show%29 It must have been the cheapest programmes ever, although it lasted for 10 years.

Skid X

I forgot to post this last week, Sharleen (who was on the show last Friday) doing one of the best covers ever