Good Friday

end of the road

Brynlee Great Eye wrote: »

Annoying you and your ilk is definitely a good reason for keeping the ban to add to the fact it's a day of abstinence where alcohol shouldn't be sold or drank.

i'm not catholic. i will abstain if i like, and it will be because i don't want to drink. nothing to do with a day of abstenence

Brynlee Great Eye wrote: »

The thing is Id have much more time for a regular drinker (like myself) who was complaining about it but I'd say I drink more in the week than some complaining about this ban do in a year which makes their complaints comical.

not at all. they have a genuine complaint. freedom of choice to trade, make money, and use a service is being stopped for no good reason. costing the country revenue. those who seem to think those opposing the bann are all raging alcoholics are the ones who are comical actually. not those who drink little but who can see this bann achieves nothing and is pointless.

eternal

efb wrote: »

They didn't have potatoes during the famine that was the point

Smartass

dxhound2005

Zamboni wrote: »

Correct. So there is no reason the maintain the law and we can all get back to our lives when Fitzgerald amends or disposes of it

She might be making some noises to placate the publicans. But don't expect anything to happen in a hurry. The possible new legislation regulating labelling and pricing etc of alchohol with a view to improving the nation's health, seems to be taking priority over any move to change the 1927 Act.

Despite this in the papers there is no mention in the draft legislation of Good Friday trading.

A spokesman for Ms Fitzgerald said the issue of Good Friday trading was being considered in the context of the upcoming Sale of Alcohol Bill but that the drafting was unlikely to be completed until later in the year.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/fitzgerald-urged-to-lift-ban-on-good-friday-alcohol-sales-1.2082973

http://health.gov.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/General-Scheme-of-the-Public-Health-Alcohol-Bill-2015.pdf

end of the road

end of the road wrote: »

i'm not catholic. i will abstain if i like, and it will be because i don't want to drink. nothing to do with a day of abstenence



not at all. they have a genuine complaint. freedom of choice to trade, make money, and use a service is being stopped for no good reason. costing the country revenue. those who seem to think those opposing the bann are all raging alcoholics are the ones who are comical actually. not those who drink little but who can see this bann achieves nothing and is pointless.

What's a "bann"?

eternal

Brynlee Great Eye wrote: »

What's a "bann"?

It's the one who looks after the house in the Gaeltacht.

Plazaman

I think all Pubs and Off Licences should be closed at least one day in every 3 months. The ingenuity and innovativeness of the Irish people excels when they have to get alcohol (that they wouldn't normally drink on a Friday) to drink on Good Friday.

Imagine the limits we could push and the stars we could reach for if this think tank was harnessed.

dxhound2005

Plazaman wrote: »

I think all Pubs and Off Licences should be closed at least one day in every 3 months. The ingenuity and innovativeness of the Irish people excels when they have to get alcohol (that they wouldn't normally drink on a Friday) to drink on Good Friday.

Imagine the limits we could push and the stars we could reach for if this think tank was harnessed.

You overestimate the intelligence of your fellow citizens. They are unable to grasp the concept of buying the alcohol on a Thursday.

Jamsiek

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You overestimate the intelligence of your fellow citizens. They are unable to grasp the concept of buying the alcohol on a Thursday.

The issue you seem to be missing is that buying on Thursday is counter-productive in many cases where binge drinking in houses takes place on the Friday.

dancingchicken

I always make sure to eat meat on Good Friday.

Cold War Kid

Erra making sure to eat meat and drink alcohol on good Friday is like teen rebellion - not interested in that at all or having a go at religious people; just choice for those who aren't religious.

h2005

dancingchicken wrote: »

I always make sure to eat meat on Good Friday.

You crazy bastard!!!!!

eternal

h2005 wrote: »

You crazy bastard!!!!!

I will have rare steak and fornicate whilst swallowing gulps of ethanol. Now that the potatoes aren't available.

Jamsiek

dancingchicken wrote: »

I always make sure to eat meat on Good Friday.

What kind of meat do chickens eat anyway?

efb

Jamsiek wrote: »

What kind of meat do chickens eat anyway?

worms, maggots, insects?

Steve_Carella

I'm flying to London on Good Friday morning. The airport bars will be open when I get through security at 6am, I'll be able to buy alcohol on the flight and I'll be able to buy alcohol all day in London if I so wish.

Except the only thing is, though, I don't drink. Isn't the irony just gas?

P_1

end of the road wrote: »

i'm not catholic. i will abstain if i like, and it will be because i don't want to drink. nothing to do with a day of abstenence



not at all. they have a genuine complaint. freedom of choice to trade, make money, and use a service is being stopped for no good reason. costing the country revenue. those who seem to think those opposing the bann are all raging alcoholics are the ones who are comical actually. not those who drink little but who can see this bann achieves nothing and is pointless.

Should we buy a hat :P

Captain Chaos

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Erra making sure to eat meat and drink alcohol on good Friday is like teen rebellion - not interested in that at all or having a go at religious people; just choice for those who aren't religious.

It's only a rebellion if you are actually part of the system you are rebelling against.

Me, I will be eating meat as I do every day of the year and I will be having my few bottles of beer at home after work on Friday as I do every Friday at the end of a working week. Some of the few joys in life still left.

Pat_custard

Anybody know if you're staying in a hotel on good Friday are you allowed to be served alcohol?

I heard you are, but I'm very skeptical

Captain Chaos

Pat_custard wrote: »

Anybody know if you're staying in a hotel on good Friday are you allowed to be served alcohol?

I heard you are, but I'm very skeptical

Yes you are, same if you hold an a valid Intercity ticket on Irish Rail. The whole Good Friday thing is a makey uppy rule day anyway, some people have the day off some are in work etc... You can get a drink in the Vatican tomorrow if you want.

Dravokivich

Carnacalla wrote: »

Yes it does matter if it will hurt people. Alcohol is advertised in a secretive way to get every more users. It causes weight issues, social problems and monetary problems and I find it personally disgusting that people are getting angry at a 1 day conservative ban.

Anyone who is trying to sell a product is encouraging someone else to purchase that product. There is nothing secretive about that. It's no great shock really.

Carnacalla wrote: »

Pubs being closed on good Friday shows the message that alcohol is a bad thing. That's one of the few things that I actually agree with the church about.

Alcohol in itself is not a bad thing. What some people do with it and the state of mind they are in when they do so can be. But it's not alcohol that does it. The same with all substance abuse. You need to respect and help the person in duress. Not cut off their leg because they twisted their ankle.

galljga1

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Yes you are, same if you hold an a valid Intercity ticket on Irish Rail. The whole Good Friday thing is a makey uppy rule day anyway, some people have the day off some are in work etc... You can get a drink in the Vatican tomorrow if you want.

Traintickets? Hotels? What?

kylith

Brynlee Great Eye wrote: »

Annoying you and your ilk is definitely a good reason for keeping the ban to add to the fact it's a day of abstinence where alcohol shouldn't be sold or drank.

Wow. How incredibly, incredibly childish of you.

PopePalpatine

kylith wrote: »

Wow. How incredibly, incredibly childish of you.

What is it with that sort of cattiness/nastiness/obnoxiousness amongst social c*ntservatives conservatives?

kylith

PopePalpatine wrote: »

What is it with that sort of cattiness/nastiness/obnoxiousness amongst social c*ntservatives conservatives?

I think it's because he has no actual argument. The 'stopping people drinking is no bad thing' bit has been debunked. The 'it's my religion' has been debunked. The 'sure the publicans need a day off' bit has been debunked. The 'sure it's only two days a year' bit has been shown to be irrelevant. Devoid of an actual argument childish pettiness is the only recourse.

Delirium

Would be nice if Good Friday fell on a fixed date so anyone who doesn't keep a Christian calendar handy could know which Friday the pubs would be shut.

• April 22, 2011
• April 6, 2012
• March 29, 2013
• April 18, 2014
• April 5, 2015

At least with Christmas, you know it's Dec 25. Good Friday can shift by 4-5 weeks on any given year >.<

steddyeddy

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

The Pub, one of those places that AH posters won't visit because they are too expensive, but who seem to get mortally offended when they close for two days a year. Those places.

I think it's a psychological thing. No human likes their freedom to do something restricted. If it is restricted it should be for something real. There's actually more evidence for bigfoot than the resurrection so maybe we should close all pubs because of him?

Tarzana2

Brynlee Great Eye wrote: »

Annoying you and your ilk is definitely a good reason for keeping the ban to add to the fact it's a day of abstinence where alcohol shouldn't be sold or drank.

Well enjoy it will it lasts because it's a law that doesn't have a bright future, happily. And when the law no longer exist YOU MIGHT FIND YOU CAN ABSTAIN WITHOUT IT! Shocking, I know.

samapple789

samapple789 wrote: »

Another crazy thing about good friday is the fact you cant eat meat on that day and you have to have fish.

I have a couple of captured wild rabbit in a box in the garden who likely wish this was true. Alas for them it is not and they saw their last dawn this morning.

kylith

SW wrote: »

Would be nice if Good Friday fell on a fixed date so anyone who doesn't keep a Christian calendar handy could know which Friday the pubs would be shut.

• April 22, 2011
• April 6, 2012
• March 29, 2013
• April 18, 2014
• April 5, 2015

At least with Christmas, you know it's Dec 25. Good Friday can shift by 4-5 weeks on any given year >.<

it's because Easter is dependent on the equinox, which varies year to year.

galljga1

Deleted User wrote: »

I have a couple of captured wild rabbit in a box in the garden who likely wish this was true. Alas for them it is not and they saw their last dawn this morning.

Ah, not little Fluffy.

Delirium

Brynlee Great Eye wrote: »

Annoying you and your ilk is definitely a good reason for keeping the ban to add to the fact it's a day of abstinence where alcohol shouldn't be sold or drank.

The thing is Id have much more time for a regular drinker (like myself) who was complaining about it but I'd say I drink more in the week than some complaining about this ban do in a year which makes their complaints comical.

Pretty sure the Vatican considers every Friday as a day of abstinence, so why impose a ban on Good Friday when it's okay every other Friday of the year?

galljga1

kylith wrote: »

it's because Easter is dependent on the equinox, which varies year to year.

Yeah, a bit of a bizarre one. Did they decide his crucifixion date on this basis? Christmas is celebrated on different dates in various parts of the world. I suppose it makes Santa's job a bit easier.

vicwatson

SW wrote: »

Would be nice if Good Friday fell on a fixed date so anyone who doesn't keep a Christian calendar handy could know which Friday the pubs would be shut.

• April 22, 2011
• April 6, 2012
• March 29, 2013
• April 18, 2014
• April 5, 2015

At least with Christmas, you know it's Dec 25. Good Friday can shift by 4-5 weeks on any given year >.<

Pattys day should be fixed to a monday also, this floating day off is bull....

galljga1

vicwatson wrote: »

Pattys day should be fixed to a monday also, this floating day off is bull....

Don't start with the 'Patty's' day stuff. This place will explode.

Heads for shelter.

kylith

galljga1 wrote: »

Ah, not little Fluffy.

Fluffy shouldn't have been so delicious then, should he?

galljga1 wrote: »

Yeah, a bit of a bizarre one. Did they decide his crucifixion date on this basis? Christmas is celebrated on different dates in various parts of the world. I suppose it makes Santa's job a bit easier.

Do they even know when the crucifixion allegedly took place? Wasn't it just after Passover? I think the Judaic calander is lunar, so that could explain it.

lertsnim

They got the idea from the pagans

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/apr/03/easter-pagan-symbolism

shruikan2553

Nearly all those holidays are just a copy of another religions holiday so would probbaly have to look there for explanation of dates.

JCX BXC

awec wrote: »

It's a day of abstinence for certain practicing catholics and nobody else. Surely you understand that most basic fact?

I'm not a practising catholic and I will abstain? So will lots of people I know.

LDN_Irish

Carnacalla wrote: »

I'm not a practising catholic and I will abstain? So will lots of people I know.

I don't believe you.

LDN_Irish

LDN_Irish wrote: »

I don't believe you.

Then again you think alcoholics don't drink 3 days a year because the pubs are closed so it's possible your nonsensical approach might extend to actions as well as thoughts.

ghogie91

Wonder will the fear of alcohol not being sold for one day drive people through the dunnes picket hahaha

JCX BXC

LDN_Irish wrote: »

Then again you think alcoholics don't drink 3 days a year because the pubs are closed so it's possible your nonsensical approach might extend to actions as well as thoughts.

My god, care to even read my post?

80% of people I know won't eat meat or drink alcohol. 10% of them actively attend Church.
Guarantee look under your layer of Ignorance and you'll see a few people who will be doing the same.

hynesie08

Carnacalla wrote: »

My god, care to even read my post?

80% of people I know won't eat meat or drink alcohol. 10% of them actively attend Church.
Guarantee look under your layer of Ignorance and you'll see a few people who will be doing the same.

We read it, you still haven't backed up your claim that not selling alcohol tomorrow means people with a drink problem still won't get it/will somehow change their ways if they don't.

LDN_Irish

Carnacalla wrote: »

My god, care to even read my post?

80% of people I know won't eat meat or drink alcohol. 10% of them actively attend Church.
Guarantee look under your layer of Ignorance and you'll see a few people who will be doing the same.

I read yours. You're not Catholic but are going to follow Catholic rules and abstain from meat and alcohol because, eh, just because. Culture and stuffs. That's nonsense. Like nearly everything you've said on this thread. Here's a highlight of ridiculous things you've said:

1: You can drink anyway.
2: It prevents alcoholics from drinking on that day
3: It'd be a dark day for alcohol harm prevention groups if the ban was lifted despite # 1.
4: I'm not Catholic but I abstain anyway cos culture.
5: 80% of people I know will abstain.

#5 is ridiculous because you have no idea if that's the case. If you're a normal person you'll know far too many people to have any idea what they have for dinner on good Friday.

OldNotWIse

Ah Good Friday. The day that people who normally act the heathenist b*llox abstain from flesh and alcohol and prance around on their high horses telling the rest of us how bad we are. Seconded only by Ash Wednesday when same self righteous f*ckers stick shít on their faces and look at you waiting for a reaction. Half a pig in the fridge. Waiting to make love to some batch loaf and real butter later - and a slab of Guinness cooling in the shed - Great Friday, you might say

kylith

Carnacalla wrote: »

My god, care to even read my post?

80% of people I know won't eat meat or drink alcohol. 10% of them actively attend Church.
Guarantee look under your layer of Ignorance and you'll see a few people who will be doing the same.

If you're not a practising Catholic you're not abstaining, you're just not drinking. Abstaining implies that you are purposefully not drinking for a reason. If the reason that you are not drinking on Friday is because of Catholic culture then you are not non-practising.

Not drinking because of Catholic culture - practising Catholic ritual i.e. abstinance
Not drinking because you don't feel like it - just not drinking

walkingshadow

Legally the pubs could give us free beer.

5starpool

I'll do what I do every Friday without the possibility of going to the pub. I'l leat meat and be glad of the day off work for a change of Friday. I don't see the need to drink just because pubs are closed, although around 20 years ago I did that a couple of times because as a student it was nearly mandatory , but I'm too old now to be considering something like that.

I don't really care that the pubs are closed, but I think the fact that they are closed because of some outdated religious crap is a terrible thing.

galljga1

walkingshadow wrote: »

Legally the pubs could give us free beer.

Now you're talking. I would convert, revert, whatever... well for a day.

WoollyRedHat

Deleted User wrote: »

I have a couple of captured wild rabbit in a box in the garden who likely wish this was true. Alas for them it is not and they saw their last dawn this morning.

You bastard! Shall they not get to see Easter Sunday, the day of the resurrection, the day when their leader the Easter bunny gives joy to children across the country? Have you not seen Bambi, the adorable Thumper. Have you no heart

http://www.pickthatflick.com/images/games/disney-quotes/thumper-in-bambi.jpg