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Season 5 | Finale | Conquer [AMC] [SPOILERS]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Adolescenteen


    8
    gonna have to watch that again but why did they have pictures of rick

    Like how he showed Rick and co. earlier in the season, Aaron uses pictures to try and prove to people that Alexandria is legit. When Aaron and Daryl are trying to fight through the walkers, Aaron drops his bag where he would have kept the pictures.

    Plus, Michonne pointed out that there was no people in his pictures, so he must have decided to take one of Rick and Carl at some point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    9
    Maybe it was the woman daryl and Aaron came across tied to a tree?

    But would Aaron not have recognised her if that was the case?
    I reckon there's just the two of them anyway and there using traps and the like to kill people and rob them of there supplies and such

    I think maybe they are like the scouts for their group. They build up the walker army they have going on and scavenge supplies. They must have a plan for all the walkers. Or maybe they are the just the exiled guys waiting to exact their revenge by unleashing the zombies on Alexandria. Little do they know they'll be screwing with the wrong people now!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    If they were the exiled guys then the pictures would be irrelevant as they would already know where Alexandria was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    8
    I very much enjoyed this half season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    I thought it was a brilliant ending precisely because there wasn't a major cliffhanger. We were all expecting one. The writers keep surprising us. That's good writing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    5starpool wrote: »
    It might be just me, but as a general policy if there was a zombie apocalypse and 99% (for arguments sake) of the population was dead or a walker, I wouldn't be heading towards the most populated (previously) part of the country. I'd have advocated heading for Kansas/Idaho, Nebraska, etc, where there might etc a chance of building something with far less chance of the dead popping up.

    I'd have advocated for a smallish island. The one place it would be possible to totally walker-proof, at least until your own people start dying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    9
    I WANT MOAR ZOMBIES I WANT MOAR GORE I WANT A CLIFFHANGER ENDING DERP DERPDERP DERP

    Sorry, but no, not every season can end like that, it's clichéd,it's a trope, it's lowest common denominator stuff.

    Morgan finally catching up to Rick - and, Rick finally catching up to Morgan. Morgan was mentally broken, a psychological wreck and that's exactly where Rick is right now. What Morgan shows us, and will show Rick, is that it is possible to come back from the brink and just go on. Rick and Morgan are on the same journey, Rick is just behind Morgan.

    Great episode, the tension at the parley then Doc going nuts and finally Deanna realising she's been wrong and capitulating to Rick's ways.

    I'm sure the woman who was tied up to the tree is the same exiled woman, and that the wolves are just those two lads.

    The "chain" killing was great, but I preferred the "number plate" killing myself. Then Deus Ex Morgina, I did shout "YESSS" when he appeared at the car window, one small thing, when he introduced himself I thought Daryl would definitely have known who he was, I'm sure in the last year and a half Rick would have mentioned Morgan to Daryl, who was pretty much his right-hand-man. There can't be that many black guys called Morgan roaming around the American east coast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭Ping Chow Chi


    8
    I'm Liking that Daryl has a best mate now!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Hyzepher wrote: »
    If they were the exiled guys then the pictures would be irrelevant as they would already know where Alexandria was.

    The writing on this show is so poor that that fact will probably be overlooked.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


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    The pictures aren't a map ffs.

    I thought Daryl and his friend were going to have an aul smooch in the car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭splashthecash


    7
    Am I the only person not impressed with "the wolves"?? I thought they were going to be a f**ked up gang, like serious freaks all geared up with weapons of all kinds and they would be the danger in season 6.

    Instead they are two weirdos with a gun with no bullets, who can get beaten up by a chap with a stick...Abraham could finish them on his own with his own how hands.

    Are they really supposed to be the danger element in season 6? Or even if they're not, the show has been dropping hints about them for a good few episodes now...just expected more is all.

    Anyone else feel the same?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭splashthecash


    7
    The pictures aren't a map ffs.

    I thought Daryl and his friend were going to have an aul smooch in the car.

    The show really is putting out a bromance vibe between the two of them alright...could Daryl be on his way to sausageville in season 6??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,207 ✭✭✭maximoose


    8
    Well that was fun. Second half of the ep was great and well paced, really tense moving back and forth between the different stuff going on.

    Disappointed Nicholas didn't die, but that fits with Glenn's character.

    Not too bothered about the lack of a cliffhanger ending, season 6 is set up nicely - but I really hope there is more to the wolves than the two guys we have seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭NinjaTruncs


    Hyzepher wrote: »
    If they were the exiled guys then the pictures would be irrelevant as they would already know where Alexandria was.

    Perhaps not, the two guys didn't see who it was that set off their traps. by looking through the backpack and finding the pictures, which they would then recognise, they would know who it was.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭obriendj


    5
    Must admit I was disappointed for a finale. gave a 6 maybe deserved a 7
    I know Walking dead usually leaves the cliff hanger ending to the mid season but the 1st half of the episode was slow paced the extra 20 minutes did not help.

    Both Sasha and Gabriel have to go. Stupid to leave the gate like that. The gatekeeper fella sees him walk out of the compound without a Gun then gives him the responsibility to keep the gate closed.

    Why did the wolves bring the poncho guy back to the factory for only to kill him at the gate.

    How quickly does it get dark in this post apocalyptic world?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


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    I dont think the Wolves are just those two guys.

    When he sits down with Morgan he mentions going through camps and surviors taking what they want.

    Theres no way two guys alone would do it, theres also the fact that some of the zombies in the trucks had W on their heads and we've seen tons of zombies with the same mark.

    This Wolves group must be pretty large, a 2 man wolf pack is a pretty s**t wolf pack.

    Why do they bring another survivor to the depot and kill him, no idea but I assume its the same reason they want to take Morgans stuff and eventually kill him as he told him he wasnt going to be left go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    So Morgan has turned into some kind of ninja shaolin monk swinging his big stick about.

    I expected Morgan to kill the two guys.

    I expected Glenn to kill the guy. He was an idiot not to.

    I half expected Daryl to turn on the guy in the car and use him as a human shield to get out.

    Id like if Carol had killed the doctor in a nice cold brutal fashion then cried outside about how he had attacked her....

    But the whole thing was just about having Rick murder someone in front of Morgan.

    It was only alright.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    8
    Were the two guys at the yard at the end definitely the same guys who tried to kill Morgan earlier? I guess they are but I didn't actually bother checking. Why did Morgan leave them in the car but then honk the horn to presumably attract the dead to surround the car? that makes no sense, so either no walkers turn up and they woke up and left or else some did show up but they killed them, presumably without weapons before escaping.

    If they are part of a bigger group (as I assume they are) then it must be pretty poorly supplied as they had no bullets. If it is just those two it will turn out to be really awful as there is no way they could have overrun Noah's family's place and others (as they say), and marked that many dead with just the two of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,207 ✭✭✭maximoose


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    It was the same two guys yeah.

    Apparently he said on the talking dead after the show that the honking was to check there were no walkers around.

    I hope we see some background to how Morgan overcame his bat**** crazy days and became the little life loving ninja he is now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Frankie5Angels


    5
    A few issues I had with this episode:

    1. Thought the bit where Gabriel was just asked to shut the gate despite being obviously disoriented/weirding out was a bit ridiculous. I hope he, to borrow a phrase from the Wire, 'gets got' in the next season, him and Sasha. Maybe Glen and Maggie too, there needs to be more Abraham.

    2. The speed at which the day turned into night from when Rick discovers the open gate to the meeting - an eclipse of some sort?!

    3. Glen's ninja escape from being shot.0

    4. Daryl and yer man had a gun, a crossbow, a chain, a plate and there were two of them but they ran for the car. Morgan made his way through the crowd with an ould stick :pac:

    Others have been mentioned above, i.e. the silence of the walkers while the lads were shouting outside the trucks.

    Overall I thought the season was poor in comparison to others, but I did and will keep watching. Some of the scenes were ridiculous, Carol exploding the gas container at Terminus with a halloween rocket being the worst of all (I get she's changed from the downtrodden housewife, but she's not Rambo). Also, how does Sasha have so many bullets in that gun?!

    That said, I like the idea now that they're settled in at Alexandria and are preparing for a bit of an onslaught from the wolves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    4
    Disappointing finale - felt like an anticlimax.

    How did a weakened and shot Glen escape 2 (if not 3) zombies who were practically on top of him?

    Why was the gate keeper so blaise about locking the gate? Here, I'm off for a meeting, shut that gate will ye, you know the one that keeps out the hordes of undead and baddies intent on killing us. Laters...


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    8
    A few issues I had with this episode:

    1. Thought the bit where Gabriel was just asked to shut the gate despite being obviously disoriented/weirding out was a bit ridiculous. I hope he, to borrow a phrase from the Wire, 'gets got' in the next season, him and Sasha. Maybe Glen and Maggie too, there needs to be more Abraham.

    2. The speed at which the day turned into night from when Rick discovers the open gate to the meeting - an eclipse of some sort?!

    3. Glen's ninja escape from being shot.0

    4. Daryl and yer man had a gun, a crossbow, a chain, a plate and there were two of them but they ran for the car. Morgan made his way through the crowd with an ould stick :pac:

    Others have been mentioned above, i.e. the silence of the walkers while the lads were shouting outside the trucks.

    Overall I thought the season was poor in comparison to others, but I did and will keep watching. Some of the scenes were ridiculous, Carol exploding the gas container at Terminus with a halloween rocket being the worst of all (I get she's changed from the downtrodden housewife, but she's not Rambo). Also, how does Sasha have so many bullets in that gun?!

    That said, I like the idea now that they're settled in at Alexandria and are preparing for a bit of an onslaught from the wolves.

    On these points.

    1. Ya, those type of things annoy me. "Close that gate will you, Father unhinged looking?" I'm guessing that Gabriel has had some kind of breakthrough/epiphany along with Sasha considering the hand holding circle with Maggie so won't be near as annoying next season. Hopefully anyway, and that goes for Sasha as well.

    2. Ya, that bugged me too. It was light when Rick found the gate open, so how long was he looking for the feckers?

    3. Indeed. That plus how while seriously injured he managed to fend off 3 walkers who were literally chomping at him while he was on the ground.

    4. Again. How Morgan got as far as opening the door of the car through presumably a big crowd of the feckers (considering how may there were in the yard).

    5. I'll add this one. When the lads put on the music to get the walkers back in the trap, why did they all go back evenly to different trucks and not all into the one that was opened at that end rather than the ones that were faced the other way and open?

    6. Another one. Why did they think that the trucks would be full of food or not be a bit more careful once again when opening one? They have had enough surprises over the years. Also, there were cans on string hanging off the side of the trucks, surely they would find that a bit odd and proceed with caution?

    Don't get me wrong, I liked the episode overall, but I really wish it were a little bit more logical at times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,027 ✭✭✭duffman13


    6

    Then Deus Ex Morgina, I did shout "YESSS" when he appeared at the car window, one small thing, when he introduced himself I thought Daryl would definitely have known who he was, I'm sure in the last year and a half Rick would have mentioned Morgan to Daryl, who was pretty much his right-hand-man. There can't be that many black guys called Morgan roaming around the American east coast.

    Just on this, he handed him the map and Darryl looked at him like he did know him. Then on the talking dead Darryl said that he did know him from Rick telling him about saving his life and having the walkie talkie for the first season or two. He just never directly said it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    5starpool wrote: »

    Don't get me wrong, I liked the episode overall, but I really wish it were a little bit more logical at times.

    This is actually my biggest problem with the show overall, besides the glacial pacing to get to really obviously telegraphed plot-points.

    Most of what the characters do makes zero sense in the context of them trying to survive so there ends up being numerous plot holes and logical fallacies in every episode.

    It's just all rather poorly written simply to advance the plot by having characters do things that are patently idiotic or things that they normally wouldn't/shouldn't do.

    The use of Talking Dead to retcon all the **** ups is a bit pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    5
    Am I the only person not impressed with "the wolves"?? I thought they were going to be a f**ked up gang, like serious freaks all geared up with weapons of all kinds and they would be the danger in season 6.

    Instead they are two weirdos with a gun with no bullets, who can get beaten up by a chap with a stick...Abraham could finish them on his own with his own how hands.

    Are they really supposed to be the danger element in season 6? Or even if they're not, the show has been dropping hints about them for a good few episodes now...just expected more is all.

    Anyone else feel the same?

    I agree, although until i read this thread I just assumed the two were part of a larger gang. If it's only these two posing a threat next season it won't be very good.

    Overall, I thought it a disappointing finale with not much of a hook to tide us over to next season.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    The real question should be why are the Wolves collecting zombies. The elaborate trap seems to be just to ensure that the zombie horde is left untouched. They seem to be collecting people to add to the horde for some reason

    Also, Morgan is a bit naive. Leaving those two so they can continue to kill is ridiculous. He may regret it in the future.

    Next season is going to be all about defending Alexandria and dealing with the fallout of what that means to those inside.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,711 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    obriendj wrote: »
    Must admit I was disappointed for a finale. gave a 6 maybe deserved a 7
    I know Walking dead usually leaves the cliff hanger ending to the mid season but the 1st half of the episode was slow paced the extra 20 minutes did not help.

    Both Sasha and Gabriel have to go. Stupid to leave the gate like that. The gatekeeper fella sees him walk out of the compound without a Gun then gives him the responsibility to keep the gate closed.

    Why did the wolves bring the poncho guy back to the factory for only to kill him at the gate.

    How quickly does it get dark in this post apocalyptic world?


    They brought him back because they werent expecting their trap to be sprung so rather than let him go they killed him, either way he was going to die and being "Wolves" it would have been sport to bring him into the compound and let him set off the traps so it makes sense to me. The only part of it that didnt make sense to me was that Daryll should have know from all the tins clanging on the trailers that something wasnt right as there was plenty of noise but no walkers around.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,711 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Hyzepher wrote: »
    The real question should be why are the Wolves collecting zombies. The elaborate trap seems to be just to ensure that the zombie horde is left untouched. They seem to be collecting people to add to the horde for some reason

    Also, Morgan is a bit naive. Leaving those two so they can continue to kill is ridiculous. He may regret it in the future.

    Next season is going to be all about defending Alexandria and dealing with the fallout of what that means to those inside.

    The traps ensure that their base is safe, they had a remote to get them all back into the trucks and all so they aint stupid.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    jonny24ie wrote: »
    The traps ensure that their base is safe, they had a remote to get them all back into the trucks and all so they aint stupid.

    They even trained the zombies to distribute themselves evenly between the trailers and walk up a narrow plank to get back in.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,711 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    They even trained the zombies to distribute themselves evenly between the trailers and walk up a narrow plank to get back in.

    Well that part of it was stupid alright but the idea reamins the same.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Greyjoy


    5starpool wrote: »
    Why did Morgan leave them in the car but then honk the horn to presumably attract the dead to surround the car? that makes no sense, so either no walkers turn up and they woke up and left or else some did show up but they killed them, presumably without weapons before escaping.

    Lennie James explained why Morgan honks the car in the "Talking Dead" -
    He does it to make sure there are no zombies nearby so that he can safely leave the two guys in the car. I must admit when I saw it initially I thought the same as yourself that he was basically 'ringing the dinner bell' to attract walkers.

    Overall I thought this was a good episode but not great. It felt more like a mid-season cliffhanger than a season end. The wolves are a little underwhelming - they've got clever traps but they don't seem like a credible threat to a fortified settlement like Alexandria. Maybe if we had seen them preparing to scout or assault the town perhaps it would have emphasised their danger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    I was half asleep at the end, did Rick shoot the wife beater or did he put the lad who had his throat slit out of his misery?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,207 ✭✭✭maximoose


    8
    He shot Pete the wife beater

    He's come a long way


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    1
    John_D80 wrote: »
    I'll usually be the first to defend TWD from any and all criticism, but that was a very poor ending to a season.

    As a standalone episode it was well up there but that is just not how you end a season. Sure there was a few ominous signs of things to come but nothing that you could call a cliffhanger as such.

    Disappointing.

    You actually like cliffhangers??? Me and you; we are looking for the exact opposite in a TV show.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    1
    A few issues I had with this episode:

    1. Thought the bit where Gabriel was just asked to shut the gate despite being obviously disoriented/weirding out was a bit ridiculous. I hope he, to borrow a phrase from the Wire, 'gets got' in the next season, him and Sasha. Maybe Glen and Maggie too, there needs to be more Abraham.

    2. The speed at which the day turned into night from when Rick discovers the open gate to the meeting - an eclipse of some sort?!

    3. Glen's ninja escape from being shot.0

    4. Daryl and yer man had a gun, a crossbow, a chain, a plate and there were two of them but they ran for the car. Morgan made his way through the crowd with an ould stick :pac:

    Others have been mentioned above, i.e. the silence of the walkers while the lads were shouting outside the trucks.

    Overall I thought the season was poor in comparison to others, but I did and will keep watching. Some of the scenes were ridiculous, Carol exploding the gas container at Terminus with a halloween rocket being the worst of all (I get she's changed from the downtrodden housewife, but she's not Rambo). Also, how does Sasha have so many bullets in that gun?!

    That said, I like the idea now that they're settled in at Alexandria and are preparing for a bit of an onslaught from the wolves.
    5starpool wrote: »
    On these points.

    1. Ya, those type of things annoy me. "Close that gate will you, Father unhinged looking?" I'm guessing that Gabriel has had some kind of breakthrough/epiphany along with Sasha considering the hand holding circle with Maggie so won't be near as annoying next season. Hopefully anyway, and that goes for Sasha as well.

    2. Ya, that bugged me too. It was light when Rick found the gate open, so how long was he looking for the feckers?

    3. Indeed. That plus how while seriously injured he managed to fend off 3 walkers who were literally chomping at him while he was on the ground.

    4. Again. How Morgan got as far as opening the door of the car through presumably a big crowd of the feckers (considering how may there were in the yard).

    5. I'll add this one. When the lads put on the music to get the walkers back in the trap, why did they all go back evenly to different trucks and not all into the one that was opened at that end rather than the ones that were faced the other way and open?

    6. Another one. Why did they think that the trucks would be full of food or not be a bit more careful once again when opening one? They have had enough surprises over the years. Also, there were cans on string hanging off the side of the trucks, surely they would find that a bit odd and proceed with caution?

    Don't get me wrong, I liked the episode overall, but I really wish it were a little bit more logical at times.

    I learnt a few seasons ago to ignore all this kind of stuff. I've since enjoyed the show more ever since. The don't live in the real world at all; it's physics are inconsistent at best. It is full of idiots to progress the story in the right direction.

    I still laugh at some of the ridiculous. The latest being that chain slicing three walkers in half.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    I learnt a few seasons ago to ignore all this kind of stuff. I've since enjoyed the show more ever since. The don't live in the real world at all; it's physics are inconsistent at best. It is full of idiots to progress the story in the right direction.

    There's plenty of good TV that is actually worth watching. Or read a book or go for a walk or something.

    Watching something that is kind of crap and knowing it is but ignoring that is a bit silly. I only skim-watch TWD now to keep up with the story because i guess i'm hoping it might get good again at some point in the future.

    I'd hate to waste 40+ minutes actually sitting down to watch the entirety of this nonsense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    7
    Great episode... even if I was a little bit underwhelmed when it was over.

    I don't envy the writers and producers when it comes to finales as you're never going to please everyone but I thought they handled it pretty well.

    There were some fantastic scenes. Loved when Rick finds the gate unlocked and realises Alexandria has been breached by walkers. His little 'hero run' was cool. And the score was seriously creepy here too. Although as has been mentioned the change from daylight to total darkness was badly done. But his killing of the walker was fantastic...it was up there with the best walker deaths.

    Great to see Morgan back in a big way. Really enjoyed his scene at the start. Although as someone said earlier, leaving those two alive could have serious repercussions further down the line.

    I genuinely thought Glenn was finished, especially as he had one of those 'moments' earlier with Maggie. Quite often a scene like that is a portent of doom for one of the characters. But his escape from the walkers was odd, especially when we don't actually see how it happened.

    I thought Deanna's husband's death was a bit too ludicrous and too convenient for Rick. And then Morgan shows up just in time to see Rick kill Pete...ah I dunno, it just felt too clunky for me.

    Overall I thought the season was patchy but ultimately a very good one. After an incredible start to the season the hospital arc didn't work for me. I can see why they did it, and it was good to have a change of location but in terms of the overall story it never left a mark for me.

    I'll miss Tyreese a lot. I can still see his little hat on the cross and it still tears me up!

    Roll on next season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,357 ✭✭✭naughto


    8
    There's plenty of good TV that is actually worth watching. Or read a book or go for a walk or something.

    Watching something that is kind of crap and knowing it is but ignoring that is a bit silly. I only skim-watch TWD now to keep up with the story because i guess i'm hoping it might get good again at some point in the future.

    I'd hate to waste 40+ minutes actually sitting down to watch the entirety of this nonsense.
    What are you doing on this thread then???


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    1
    There's plenty of good TV that is actually worth watching. Or read a book or go for a walk or something.

    Watching something that is kind of crap and knowing it is but ignoring that is a bit silly. I only skim-watch TWD now to keep up with the story because i guess i'm hoping it might get good again at some point in the future.

    I'd hate to waste 40+ minutes actually sitting down to watch the entirety of this nonsense.

    Things can be objectively bad but still be enjoyable. The majority of Nicolas Cage's career for example.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,548 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    This thread is for discussing the finale, not posting half naked pictures of the cast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Frankie5Angels


    5
    There's plenty of good TV that is actually worth watching.

    There's not, there's really, really not.

    TWD isn't perfect by a long shot, but it's entertaining at times and provides a bit of escapism. Let's face it, we're all watching it in preparation for the Zombie Apocolypse.

    I find TV to be, in the main, absolutely sh1te these days. Can't think of one program that I would sit and watch at an appointed time (including TWD, usually record it and play on Tuesday skipping ads).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,357 ✭✭✭naughto


    8
    Mr E wrote: »
    This thread is for discussing the finale, not posting half naked pictures of the cast.

    Ya sorry wrong thread I posted it in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭Green_Martian


    7
    Mr E wrote: »
    This thread is for discussing the finale, not posting half naked pictures of the cast.

    Are people posting pics of me again :D


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


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    I learnt a few seasons ago to ignore all this kind of stuff. I've since enjoyed the show more ever since. The don't live in the real world at all; it's physics are inconsistent at best. It is full of idiots to progress the story in the right direction.

    I still laugh at some of the ridiculous. The latest being that chain slicing three walkers in half.

    Oh I do largely ignore it, and I enjoy the show very much for what it is. It's just a niggling irritant for me, and even reading novels I get frustrated when illogical things happen as well, but it generally doesn't mean I don't enjoy them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 291 ✭✭granty1987


    OK my interpretation of the Wolves' trap is to lure people in and kill them - the more people that come to check out the food factory, the more walkers they have for their trap. They lured the red poncho guy there to kill him n let him turn in a location that they can use him.

    I think they have been killing as many people as they can find, brand them with the W, ditch them into the factory compound and then fill the trucks with them

    The Wolves do not need a load of people or weapons to wipe out a camp - what I imagine they do (and plan to do with Alexandria) is to drive up to the camp, ram down the walls with their walker trucks and sit back, let the walkers kill everyone and then they simply turn the rave on to get them back into the trucks. Hey presto, they have a load of supplies!

    The Governor did the same trick but on a far smaller scale in the Prison.

    If I remember correctly, at Noahs family's camp, where the guys found the dead bodies, there was a big hole in the wall - my guess is that was from a truck ramming it.

    The walls in Alexandria won't last very long with 4 big truck crashing into it and up until Rick & co showed up, the people there wouldn't have stood a chance. The Wolves now know that there are at least some new people in Alexandria (assuming they are the ones who were exiled) as they saw Rick n Coral in the photo


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  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭bodhi085


    jester77 wrote: »
    I was half asleep at the end, did Rick shoot the wife beater or did he put the lad who had his throat slit out of his misery?

    I Was thinking the same until I just rewatched the scene..I noticed there was no reaction off anyone,especially petes wife that her husband and father of her child was just murdered. I thought that it was reg who Rick shot after being told to do it.. Reasoning because would reg not turn into a walker. Rick turned slightly to face Pete just as he shot Him,and then was facing Morgan. Reg only had his throat slit,so would he not turn? Doesn't it have to be the brain that is killed for them not to turn?
    Enjoyed the season,looking back so much happened because they wasn't always in the same place for a whole season which showed the group in so many situations. Has to be said that Andrew Lincoln and Melissa mc brides acting was superb.
    Daryl dies we riot..f*#k that..if carol dies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭obriendj


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    bodhi085 wrote: »
    I Was thinking the same until I just rewatched the scene..I noticed there was no reaction off anyone,especially petes wife that her husband and father of her child was just murdered. I thought that it was reg who Rick shot after being told to do it.. Reasoning because would reg not turn into a walker. Rick turned slightly to face Pete just as he shot Him,and then was facing Morgan. Reg only had his throat slit,so would he not turn? Doesn't it have to be the brain that is killed for them not to turn?
    Enjoyed the season,looking back so much happened because they wasn't always in the same place for a whole season which showed the group in so many situations. Has to be said that Andrew Lincoln and Melissa mc brides acting was superb.
    Daryl dies we riot..f*#k that..if carol dies.

    He shot Pete following the approval from Deanna
    I think everyone was in shock so the reaction was minimal.
    I would think the husband will turn but how long someone takes to turn can depend on dramatic effect.


  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭bodhi085


    obriendj wrote: »
    He shot Pete following the approval from Deanna
    I think everyone was in shock so the reaction was minimal.
    I would think the husband will turn but how long someone takes to turn can depend on dramatic effect.

    There was no scenes of anyone's reaction so that's what got me thinking did he get the approval to shoot Pete or shoot reg,and was it the intention of the writers to not show any scenes of reactions. Even though they would be in shock,I would have thought a scream would be heard off petes wife,regardless of her feelings for her husband. I had to check the scene again to see which way Rick was facing before he fired his gun. I'm hoping that it will be tied up regarding reg could turn in episode 1 season 6,but I've a feeling it's going to skip time. I don't think there was a time skip from season 4 to 5,with story's running parallel during 5a.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


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    Another thing I've just thought of, when Morgan saved Daryl and the guys name who I cant remember, when asked why he saved them, didnt he say all life was precious?

    To then turn up and see the guy who saved you killing a guy thats being pinned down without any explaniation must have been a shocker for poor Morgan :pac:


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


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    bodhi085 wrote: »
    There was no scenes of anyone's reaction so that's what got me thinking did he get the approval to shoot Pete or shoot reg,and was it the intention of the writers to not show any scenes of reactions. Even though they would be in shock,I would have thought a scream would be heard off petes wife,regardless of her feelings for her husband. I had to check the scene again to see which way Rick was facing before he fired his gun. I'm hoping that it will be tied up regarding reg could turn in episode 1 season 6,but I've a feeling it's going to skip time. I don't think there was a time skip from season 4 to 5,with story's running parallel during 5a.

    We won't (I hope) start season 6 just where we left off. Of course the husband will turn if left unbrainstabbed (a real word obviously), but we'll see Deanna standing over his grave at some point I'd imagine.


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