Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

thinkstoomuch1

Rightwing wrote: »

Ye must be getting worried down by the lee?

A few months ago this fixture looked a gimme, now it's a 50-50 at best from cork's pov.

Absolutely it has changed a bit but I'm not worried as I called the game before and half time and even said wait cork mind games start and read jbm interview beautifully played imo and it went as I thought it would
Nothing much say now as June will show better cork

Rightwing

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Absolutely it has changed a bit but I'm not worried as I called the game before and half time and even said wait cork mind games start and read jbm interview beautifully played imo and it went as I thought it would
Nothing much say now as June will show better cork

Fair enough. Risky ploy if that's what they were up to. I like both teams so would like to see both do well, but Cork are losing their aura so they need to starting winning national titles imo. Teams like Laois/Antrim/Wexford should even be having a right pop off them now.

As for Waterford, just shows how important the manager is, but we all know they have some very good young players coming through. I'd tip Waterford to win an AI before either Cork or Limk.

Deise_2012

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Absolutely it has changed a bit but I'm not worried as I called the game before and half time and even said wait cork mind games start and read jbm interview beautifully played imo and it went as I thought it would
Nothing much say now as June will show better cork

Kevin Morans point in the 2nd half when he runs from midfield and Mark Eilis is chasing him, watch the replay...you can see Eilis's face, he's absolutely huffing and puffing trying to catch him, I love the way you keep saying Cork stopped trying in the 2nd half...watch his face, he's trying his heart out to catch Moran

quintain

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

but I'm not worried as I called the game before and half time

you're great,

Match analysis lads ?

thinkstoomuch1

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Kevin Morans point in the 2nd half when he runs from midfield and Mark Eilis is chasing him, watch the replay...you can see Eilis's face, he's absolutely huffing and puffing trying to catch him, I love the way you keep saying Cork stopped trying in the 2nd half...watch his face, he's trying his heart out to catch Moran

Great point and glad you showed that

The reason like I said during week huffing puffing is he's limited training up to this game as no where near full fitness or was Nash and Murphy had wear shoulder brace
It was about game time more than anything
I'm not saying this now in fairness I said this all week

But look if it makes you feel better cork were all out, this waterford team were awesome and to be fair we have no chance in June hopefully a bit of luck and Waterford off day may just may win


Look if you want belive cork were all out fair point I'm not going to change your view
I respect your different opinion
June will be very interesting

thinkstoomuch1

quintain wrote: »

you're great, now would you ever fcuk off ?

Match analysis lads ?

I'm debating points which what everyone doing
You don't like view don't read it but please be civil
Thanks

quintain

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I'm debating points which what everyone doing
You don't like view don't read it but please be civil
Thanks

fair play, original post edited

westcork blue

Strange experience yesterday. I'm going to these matches since the bleak days of the early 80's. Yesterday was the first time I've felt really confident from early on in the game that we had Cork's measure. I'm sure that there will be a backlash in 5 weeks time but I'm not overly convinced that Cork have what it takes to bridge the gap. The biggest problem that Cork have is a failure to win 50/50 clashes. This was evident in the match against Dublin (until the Dubs ran out of Gas) and was the same yesterday. Take Harmody out of the Cork forwards and who will win dirty ball? You need your forwards willing to take some stick, I'm not sure enough of the Cork forwards are willing to put it on the line.

For us we have have plenty to work on. 15 wides and some very poor play and decision making in the the first 10 minutes of the second half in particular. The spirit in the squad looks to be great, their conditioning is excellent and now their confidence must be soaring. In January I wrote here about having hope following a series of challenge games, what a great feeling to have silverware in the boot in May and have real hope of more to come in the next 24 months. Its amazing the way the wheel turns.

hurlinbanter

Well done to all involved from players to management excellent throughout great display yesterday a joy to watch

Deise_2012

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Great point and glad you showed that

The reason like I said during week huffing puffing is he's limited training up to this game as no where near full fitness or was Nash and Murphy had wear shoulder brace
It was about game time more than anything
I'm not saying this now in fairness I said this all week

But look if it makes you feel better cork were all out, this waterford team were awesome and to be fair we have no chance in June hopefully a bit of luck and Waterford off day may just may win


Look if you want belive cork were all out fair point I'm not going to change your view
I respect your different opinion
June will be very interesting

But in fairness you don't have many options, Paudie O'Sullivan basically played the whole game yesterday didn't make much difference. You think that Cork are going to improve 10 points better ok, but Waterford are going to go backwards? We had fellas coming off the bench yesterday Devine and O'Halloran scoring for fun. What were O'Farrell and Cahalane doing? We have Darragh Fives and Steven Daniels to return to our defense also.... Cork will improve for sure, but so will Waterford

deisedude

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Absolutely it has changed a bit but I'm not worried as I called the game before and half time and even said wait cork mind games start and read jbm interview beautifully played imo and it went as I thought it would
Nothing much say now as June will show better cork

For 2 weeks before this game you made an annoying amount of posts on here going on at length 1-15 saying how much better the Cork player was to his Waterford counterpart.

Cork may very well beat us in 5 weeks but to say Cork lost by 10 points and it was tactical and mind games is just plain stupid.

Mountainlad

The lads have been playing all year with dogged intensity and the only time I thought that was missing over the course of the league was maybe the first 15 minutes against Tipp but after that it was very much to the fore. Yesterday was no different, from the start they tore into it.

I don't think Dunford can be praise enough for his contribution since coming into the team since the start of last year. His pace and skill is incredible. Use of the ball at times could be improved but he's a serious threat to the opposition whenever he gets the ball wherever he gets it.

Midfield was the winning of the game, Cork seemed to hold their backs fairly rigidly in place and so had plenty of men covering Maurice but there was plenty of overlaps being created in midfield especially as you have unbelievable pace and dynamism in the likes of Moran, Barron and Dunford. Pauric Mahony's work rate was incredible and he has the best hurling brain in Waterford I think, never wastes a ball.

Thought Gleeson may well have been our best player first half, but then Noel Connors was exceptional and to be honest there was about 5 players there that could have been a worthy choice for man of the match.

I've seen criticism of the ref from Cork quarters and he's not one I like, I did notice one or two soft frees we got on League Sunday alright and obviously there's Cooper's alleged point but for balance the linesman gave a lineball to Cork that was clearly a Waterford ball and from that resultant play Cork nearly got a goal but for a wonderful save from SOK, who in my opinion is better than Nash and 7 years his junior. Brick was also rugby tackled at one stage and got a free given against him, no to mention Gleeson resetting a sideline and Johnny Ryan letting the boo boys in the Cork crowd influence him in overturning it. Same thing happened later on and he didn't over-rule it, was pretty blatant posturing from the ref.

The man who had that effort, Harnedy proved pretty much unplayable yesterday and he is a serious threat for the next day. Caught two early balls off Bourke and then Gleeson swtiched on him and he caught another one. In fairness, Bourke grew into the game and made a great catch second half. Lehane is the other one but don't think he's a full forward.

Coughlan again did his job very well and fairplay to him. I was saying the other day to the father that I think we always have doubts about full back no matter who is in there probably unfairly due to how many times it was a major issue from about 2001 until 2010 and I think Lawlor suffered from every game people were concerned no matter how little was let in the day before. Coughlan similarly there is a reluctance to heap too much praise with concerns over the forwards hes marked but he has had a very good league and fairplay to him, nailed on starter for the championship.

The Brick scored two absolutely cracking points, as well as making the goal for Devine who did very well when introduced. I was just after saying that Brick looked out on his feet and then he made a complete mug of me doing only what he can do by winning a ball in a crowd of players and laying it off.



The problem with the system is the scarcity of bodies inside the 45 if we counter too quickly. Maurice did very well in my opinion to contend with 2 to 3 men on him all day and on another day would have another point or two. He gave the full back plenty of problems, was out in front a lot and won several frees. Any forward would struggle in the circumstances so fairplay to him.


On a final note, Fergal Hartley was behind me hurling every ball and giving great support. I saw a clip of Clinton I'm fairly sure on League Sunday. Dan was their still giving out to the ref and roaring the lads on and we 10 points up with a minute left It's great to see all those lads their and what it means to them as the success is a by product of all they have done for Waterford.

TyrionPower

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Great point and glad you showed that

The reason like I said during week huffing puffing is he's limited training up to this game as no where near full fitness or was Nash and Murphy had wear shoulder brace
It was about game time more than anything
I'm not saying this now in fairness I said this all week

But look if it makes you feel better cork were all out, this waterford team were awesome and to be fair we have no chance in June hopefully a bit of luck and Waterford off day may just may win


Look if you want belive cork were all out fair point I'm not going to change your view
I respect your different opinion
June will be very interesting

Look league has no relation to championship, god we know that, in terms of fitness etc we have peaked earlier then others, this league was very important to us because of the pressure the whole senior set up was under, even from their supporters.

when national titles are won as rarely as we win them you dont really think forward to June, we are far from the finished article and in some quarters may still even be ranked as the 5th best team in Munster (a label it could be argued Cork are fighting with us for, but again a label that means nothing as all the teams can beat each other in my opinion).
There was a trophy and medals handed out yesterday and if Cork couldnt raise there game to win against a team that came from 1B then it shows serious flaws in them and is not part of some master plan.

Cork went down without a fight - the worst criticsm you can level at any hurling team, and if they want to be considered as taking on the likes of Kilkenny then yesterday shows that there is big question marks.

Would I be surprised if the tables were turned and Cork came out on top in June? No as I said I think all Munster teams can beat each other.... but you can hardly expect us to be thinking like that at this stage after yesterday

thinkstoomuch1

Deise_2012 wrote: »

But in fairness you don't have many options, Paudie O'Sullivan basically played the whole game yesterday didn't make much difference. You think that Cork are going to improve 10 points better ok, but Waterford are going to go backwards? We had fellas coming off the bench yesterday Devine and O'Halloran scoring for fun. What were O'Farrell and Cahalane doing? We have Darragh Fives and Steven Daniels to return to our defense also.... Cork will improve for sure, but so will Waterford

There was no hunger no intensity no want for battle

Mcdonnell even said interview after he's not worried won't affect cork he sees it blessing he won't be as bad again
He cork best defender last year and yesterday showed no interest like many cork lads

Problems ye have is that same team will start v cotk and system and yesterday looked good with no pressure
When pressure comes on in game very had change mid stream


Cork will have imo possibly three changes and be more tweaks system
But that's not for now to discuss

Forget about ten points it means nothing
Cork second gear four points down half time and imo could see cork said we saw what we needed right that will do that's why posted half time cork will fade away

Don't get hyped up ten point win imo

Deise_2012

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

There was no hunger no intensity no want for battle

Mcdonnell even said interview after he's not worried won't affect cork he sees it blessing he won't be as bad again
He cork best defender last year and yesterday showed no interest like many cork lads

Problems ye have is that same team will start v cotk and system and yesterday looked good with no pressure
When pressure comes on in game very had change mid stream


Cork will have imo possibly three changes and be more tweaks system
But that's not for now to discuss

Forget about ten points it means nothing
Cork second gear four points down half time and imo could see cork said we saw what we needed right that will do that's why posted half time cork will fade away

Don't get hyped up ten point win imo

Tipp pressured us first 15 mins, and they have better forwards than Cork

stumblingblock

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

There was no hunger no intensity no want for battle

Mcdonnell even said interview after he's not worried won't affect cork he sees it blessing he won't be as bad again
He cork best defender last year and yesterday showed no interest like many cork lads

Problems ye have is that same team will start v cotk and system and yesterday looked good with no pressure
When pressure comes on in game very had change mid stream


Cork will have imo possibly three changes and be more tweaks system
But that's not for now to discuss

Forget about ten points it means nothing
Cork second gear four points down half time and imo could see cork said we saw what we needed right that will do that's why posted half time cork will fade away

Don't get hyped up ten point win imo

Ok point made x 1000. Jesus

stumblingblock

Any sign of a minor team for wednesday night? Hopefully they can feed off the buzz from the senior success and go give it a right lash

seananigans

stumblingblock wrote: »

Ok point made x 1000. Jesus

His point isn't made until he writes Imo ten or twenty times how else would anyone know what he is writing is his opinion ? I wish everyone did it I get confused with everyone writing other people's opinions on here...

TyrionPower

Interesting to see Derek McGrath name check Patrick Curran in a post match interview, basically he was saying that in a few years we could play a more expansive game centred around the likes of Patrick Curran and Stephen Bennet... but basically he is saying Patrick come on we want you now and with the national title in the bag maybe he might be enticed in a bit earlier

Backstreet Moyes

So Cork fought to the death in the semi final and then decided ah sure we won't go all out to win the final seems strange to me.

Dick phelan

Have to laugh at some Cork people saying Cork didn't play because they had no interest and don't want to show their full hand to Waterford, If you think that then as a Cork supporter you should be even more worried, It was a League final FFS, One of only 3 trophies given out every year, Cork didn't try? If true that's shocking Cork haven't won a League since 98 it's bull**** to suggest the players simply didn't care about the game. Waterford won that game not because Cork didn't try they won because they had the better players on the day, What will Cork people's excuse be if we beat them in June? A 10 point defeat in a final is bad no other way of spinning that and League or no League Cork wouldn't be thrilled playing a team in 5 weeks who just played them off the pitch. Sour grapes from some on the forum June is another day another game but after yesterday i fancy Waterford to win.

O Riain

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

There was no hunger no intensity no want for battle

Mcdonnell even said interview after he's not worried won't affect cork he sees it blessing he won't be as bad again
He cork best defender last year and yesterday showed no interest like many cork lads

Problems ye have is that same team will start v cotk and system and yesterday looked good with no pressure
When pressure comes on in game very had change mid stream


Cork will have imo possibly three changes and be more tweaks system
But that's not for now to discuss

Forget about ten points it means nothing
Cork second gear four points down half time and imo could see cork said we saw what we needed right that will do that's why posted half time cork will fade away

Don't get hyped up ten point win imo

Do you think that JBM did not know the set up we were going to use yesterday? Cause we have been using it for 2 years now.
Do you think we have no areas to improve in? Cause we wasted a serious amount of ball into the forwards and made some bad wides - so plenty to work on over the next 5 weeks.
Do you think Cork didn't try yesterday? Been an embarrassingly long time since Cork have won a national trophy and you wouldn't see KK or Tipp go down like that. I was listening to a multitude of All Ireland winners talking about it and they said its a national title and something to be taken very seriously. These are men with actual All Ireland medals now.

Do you not realise that we don't have a fully fit squad? Cause we have Daniels recovering, Darragh Fives the same and Bennett. All potential starters, not to mention the fact that martin o Neill, tom devine or Brian o hall or an could easily start and do the job in 5 weeks.

Nobody outside of Cork is saying that they purposely threw the game in order to keep their cards close to their chest for June. 18,000 people saw that display first hand for what it was and that was gutlsss. Absolutely nobody except for a small few delusionals view the game like you so and it is embarrassing for a once mighty and proud hurling county like Cork to come up with atrocious excuses like that.

blackcard

Congratulations. to Waterford, I think ye are on the way up whilst we (KK) are on the way down

Deise_2012

^^^^^ Don't even start

Cats fur sale

Mama mia ye're good.

savannahkat

blackcard wrote: »

Congratulations. to Waterford, I think ye are on the way up whilst we (KK) are on the way down

Sur, we have to be saying something. Well done to Waterford. Cork did as good as they were allowed to do. It might be a different story next time (a big might) but if one went back one month Cork were certainties for the June clash. Beating Galway, Tipp and Cork in row is no mean feat any year. The Blah's will take a bit of watching all right.

commonsense.

O Riain wrote:

Nobody outside of Cork is saying that they purposely threw the game in order to keep their cards close to their chest for June. 18,000 people saw that display first hand for what it was and that was gutlsss. Absolutely nobody except for a small few delusionals view the game like you so and it is embarrassing for a once mighty and proud hurling county like Cork to come up with atrocious excuses like that.

Lets be clear here. The vast vast majority of Cork supporters saw yesterday for what it was. A win for the better team - end of. And that is reflected in the vast vast majority of posts. A tiny minority peddling an alternative view. But don't expect us to fold the tent after yesterday. Hell no, expect a backlash in 5 weeks. We might even overturn yesterdays result. But let there be no doubt there is genuine concern Leeside for this teams immediate future.

PTH2009

Hopefully none of the lads get injured in the club matches

There is not one Waterford supporter going up to thurles on the 7th June not expecting a cork backlash. There management team will investigate the league final. Waterford need to change things up a bit. Cork played brutal in the drawn quarter final last year but improved hugely in the replay. Imo that will be the case in June. Maybe the cork players are getting fed up of jbm,s management and may want him out if they lose the semi final

Miall108

blackcard wrote: »

Congratulations. to Waterford, I think ye are on the way up whilst we (KK) are on the way down

Never heard such nonsense in all my life

TyrionPower

God we never came in for such attention on this thread over the last two years when we were going crap!

Must be doing something right to be drawing out the creeps!

STIG83

All the idiot Trolls coming out of woodwork to criticize Waterford on winning some silverware.
Big men behind the keyboard.

O Riain

commonsense. wrote: »

Lets be clear here. The vast vast majority of Cork supporters saw yesterday for what it was. A win for the better team - end of. And that is reflected in the vast vast majority of posts. A tiny minority peddling an alternative view. But don't expect us to fold the tent after yesterday. Hell no, expect a backlash in 5 weeks. We might even overturn yesterdays result. But let there be no doubt there is genuine concern Leeside for this teams immediate future.

I would love to see Cork rebound and have a right battle. Its great winning, especially a trophy but winning by 10 points is just not the same as coming out on top by a point or two.

PTH2009

O Riain wrote: »

I would love to see Cork rebound and have a right battle. Its great winning, especially a trophy but winning by 10 points is just not the same as coming out on top by a point or two.

I'd take a 10 point victory over a close match anyday.

O Riain

PTH2009 wrote: »

I'd take a 10 point victory over a close match anyday.

Its not good for the heart but you'd appreciate the win a lot more. Still though its great to beat Cork by 10 points as it really doesn't happen much (ever)

Nonoperational

Cork were outplayed yesterday, Waterford better all over the field. I'd be worried about June, I think ye are deservedly favourites. Not saying we can't turn it around, but it will need a serious effort.

Personally I think Cork were out to win yesterday and just didn't perform.

rebel girl 15

Fair play to McGrath, lot of people on here and in other places giving him huge stick, but he got most things right on Sunday, match-ups etc and a game plan that worked. Gleeson is some hurler, those two points were inspirational. Lot of young hurlers coming through with no fear, deserved celebrations. League title is nothing to be scoffed at, much better team. Any Cork supporter saying it was mind games etc is bs, Cork lads wanted to win, but didn't turn up, end of story. Better team won, and to say anything else is disrespectful to Waterford

Will be a cracker in a few weeks time

N20

Yer minors are named

what d'ye reckon ?

Waterford Minor Team v Limerick 04/05/2015

The Waterford Minor Hurling Team to play

Limerick on Wednesday night in Thurles at 7pm

has been named this evening.

Best of luck lads!

1.
Billy Nolan

Roanmore
2.
Darragh Lynch

Passage
3.
Conor Prunty

Abbeyside
4.
Darragh McGrath

Abbeyside
5.
Jordan Henley

Tallow
6.
Darragh Lyons

Dungarvan
7.
Cormac Dunphy

Ballyduff Lower
8.
Calum Lyons

Ballyduff Lower
9.
J.P. Lucey

Shamrocks
10.
Glenn Waters

Dungarvan
11.
Andy Molumby

Cappoquin
12.
Eddie Meaney

De La Salle
13.
Aaron O’Sullivan

Cappquin
14.
Jack Prendergast

Lismore
15.
Peter Hogan

Ballygunner

Miall108

Mountainlad wrote: »

As for the second bit, you didn't but it was what I said in the post you quoted when you said what you said to me. I have been labelled a troll on that thread for saying as much as what you have just acknowledged as juvenile, I also had an issue with Brian Cody's criminal comment just because I thought it was bad form given it was 3 weeks on and they'd won the bloody all ireland, though admittedly out of character. And that in a nutshell is what I said on the page, repeatedly I'll admit just because I was incredulous at some of the observations being made though should be said a minority rather than a majority making them. And I'll leave it there.

When I said what I said to you originally I made no mention of the Barry Kelly incident. What I had the issue with was some of your overboard comments about Brian Codys comments about Barry Kelly which he was right to say as some of his decisions were borderline ridiculous to say the least. But the opinions of some that theres a conspiracy is completely pushing the boat out. That was my opinion at the time and thats what it remains.

Scifo

Small margins. Harnedy should have goaled. Lehane very unlucky to hit the woodwork. 6 points right there. Valid point waved wide, up to 7. Couple of bad wides eliminated and would have been interesting. Cadogan, who destroyed us in the replay last year, went off early with hamstring. Interestingly Harnedy seemed to suffer one late on also. Neither were sprinting at the time which tells me they were fatigued due to serious training schedule.

Plenty of room for improvement, timing of the ball into the full-forward line, Gleeson attempting a few catches near the end and getting nowhere near the ball, Gleeson mixing the sublime delivery with the absurd waste of possession...need to counter Harnedy in the air.

Cork won't be as bad again, recent history has shown us that they are quick learners against us and Championship hurling takes on a life of its own...frees are harder to win, bigger crowds, the new weight of expectation.

Hopefully we'll learn our lesson from the two-legged affair last year. None of this is meant as criticism as we were magnificent at times. But 'at times' won't win an All-Ireland. Why should we not now have that as our aim? We are good enough, the question is whether we can be consistent enough, physical enough, smart enough or lucky enough.

KK are weakened, no doubt. Clare are a soap opera under Davy. Cork could go either way but have enough quality up front to hurt any team in full stride. Galway, Dublin and Limerick are schizophrenic recently. Tipp are the standout candidates imho, they are not up to full speed yet. But it's wide open.

So the question is: why not Waterford ?

Miall108

deisedude wrote: »

Fixed your post

I seriously don't understand how people get joy out of coming on to an internet forum just to piss people off. Have you ever even posted in this thread before this match?

For your information I have actually on a few occasions

N20

Scifo wrote: »

Small margins. Harnedy should have goaled. Lehane very unlucky to hit the woodwork. 6 points right there. Valid point waved wide, up to 7. Couple of bad wides eliminated and would have been interesting. Cadogan, who destroyed us in the replay last year, went off early with hamstring. Interestingly Harnedy seemed to suffer one late on also. Neither were sprinting at the time which tells me they were fatigued due to serious training schedule.

Plenty of room for improvement, timing of the ball into the full-forward line, Gleeson attempting a few catches near the end and getting nowhere near the ball, Gleeson mixing the sublime delivery with the absurd waste of possession...need to counter Harnedy in the air.

Cork won't be as bad again, recent history has shown us that they are quick learners against us and Championship hurling takes on a life of its own...frees are harder to win, bigger crowds, the new weight of expectation.

Hopefully we'll learn our lesson from the two-legged affair last year. None of this is meant as criticism as we were magnificent at times. But 'at times' won't win an All-Ireland. Why should we not now have that as our aim? We are good enough, the question is whether we can be consistent enough, physical enough, smart enough or lucky enough.

KK are weakened, no doubt. Clare are a soap opera under Davy. Cork could go either way but have enough quality up front to hurt any team in full stride. Galway, Dublin and Limerick are schizophrenic recently. Tipp are the standout candidates imho, they are not up to full speed yet. But it's wide open.

So the question is: why not Waterford ?

Just on a point of interest re valid point waved wide

Wasn't Hawkeye to be trialled in Thurles this weekend ! any reason given for change of plan ?

TyrionPower

Scifo wrote: »

Small margins. Harnedy should have goaled. Lehane very unlucky to hit the woodwork. 6 points right there. Valid point waved wide, up to 7. Couple of bad wides eliminated and would have been interesting. Cadogan, who destroyed us in the replay last year, went off early with hamstring. Interestingly Harnedy seemed to suffer one late on also. Neither were sprinting at the time which tells me they were fatigued due to serious training schedule.

Plenty of room for improvement, timing of the ball into the full-forward line, Gleeson attempting a few catches near the end and getting nowhere near the ball, Gleeson mixing the sublime delivery with the absurd waste of possession...need to counter Harnedy in the air.

Cork won't be as bad again, recent history has shown us that they are quick learners against us and Championship hurling takes on a life of its own...frees are harder to win, bigger crowds, the new weight of expectation.

Hopefully we'll learn our lesson from the two-legged affair last year. None of this is meant as criticism as we were magnificent at times. But 'at times' won't win an All-Ireland. Why should we not now have that as our aim? We are good enough, the question is whether we can be consistent enough, physical enough, smart enough or lucky enough.

KK are weakened, no doubt. Clare are a soap opera under Davy. Cork could go either way but have enough quality up front to hurt any team in full stride. Galway, Dublin and Limerick are schizophrenic recently. Tipp are the standout candidates imho, they are not up to full speed yet. But it's wide open.

So the question is: why not Waterford ?

Have to agree with all of that

archieknox

Just wondering will the management open up the panel to maybe add to it for the championship? How many,if any would likely make a difference to what's already there? Must be hard to keep Conor Murray from Cappoquin on it now as he won't be playing championship with his club for the year so in theory he will only be playing intercounty for 2015 as he still haven't transferred to anywhere else. Maybe the club championship games might put a few players names in the mix but i can't see them upsetting the apple cart too much.

stumblingblock

N20 wrote: »

Yer minors are named

what d'ye reckon ?

Waterford Minor Team v Limerick 04/05/2015

The Waterford Minor Hurling Team to play

Limerick on Wednesday night in Thurles at 7pm

has been named this evening.

Best of luck lads!

1.
Billy Nolan

Roanmore
2.
Darragh Lynch

Passage
3.
Conor Prunty

Abbeyside
4.
Darragh McGrath

Abbeyside
5.
Jordan Henley

Tallow
6.
Darragh Lyons

Dungarvan
7.
Cormac Dunphy

Ballyduff Lower
8.
Calum Lyons

Ballyduff Lower
9.
J.P. Lucey

Shamrocks
10.
Glenn Waters

Dungarvan
11.
Andy Molumby

Cappoquin
12.
Eddie Meaney

De La Salle
13.
Aaron O’Sullivan

Cappquin
14.
Jack Prendergast

Lismore
15.
Peter Hogan

Ballygunner

Strange that there are no changes bar a couple of positional ones. Although I actually thought we were the better team versus Tipp and should’ve won it, if we’d taken our chances. Maybe they’ve just kept faith with the same lads again in the hope that we’ll take our chances this time. But Id fear its more to do with lack of strength in depth than anything else. Saying that I’m surprised they haven’t found a place for Nolan out the field. An excellent keeper no doubt, but a very talented all round hurler. Definetly one for the future.

stumblingblock

archieknox wrote: »

Just wondering will the management open up the panel to maybe add to it for the championship? How many,if any would likely make a difference to what's already there? Must be hard to keep Conor Murray from Cappoquin on it now as he won't be playing championship with his club for the year so in theory he will only be playing intercounty for 2015 as he still haven't transferred to anywhere else. Maybe the club championship games might put a few players names in the mix but i can't see them upsetting the apple cart too much.

I thought that the Murray brothers had all transferred to Blackrock in Cork?

Dan Shan said in an interview over the weekend that the panel is an open shop, and anyone who shows good club form over the next few weeks can still be called-up. Including some of the older lads who had been dropped before Christmas.

Waternut

Looking forward to the minors, they appear to be a bit on the small side and probably not as good as the previous few years and lacking depth from the bench. Notwithstanding that, I do expect a number of them to go on and play senior in the coming years and undoubtedly there are some seriously talented individuals on that team.

archieknox

stumblingblock wrote: »

I thought that the Murray brothers had all transferred to Blackrock in Cork?

Dan Shan said in an interview over the weekend that the panel is an open shop, and anyone who shows good club form over the next few weeks can still be called-up. Including some of the older lads who had been dropped before Christmas.

I don't think those transfers have happened yet but if Cornerstone is on here he will definitely know the latest with the 3 of them.

deisedude

O Riain wrote: »

Its not good for the heart but you'd appreciate the win a lot more. Still though its great to beat Cork by 10 points as it really doesn't happen much (ever)

I'd gladly beat cork by 20 points every day and be just as happy!!!

TyrionPower

Just thinking back to when we have looked uncomfortable this year, Begley troubled us against Limerick, Some of the big Galway forwards for a spell in the 2nd half (when it looked bad for us), Bonnar maher against Tipp and Harnedy against Cork winning good possession in the air.
We haven't had it all our own way and ball winning forwards who won their own possession in the air have really troubled us.
I would describe Colin fennely, Eoin Larkin, TJ Reid, Richie power, Walter Walsh and john power as such, with smart and very mobile hurlers like paul Murphy, cillian Buckley, Padraig Walsh, Richie Hogan and michael fennely delivering ball into them I still can't see our approach working against them, but it may make us more competitive.
I am sure Jackie Tyrell would be kicking his lips at the prospect of Colin dunford streaking towards him on a solo run.

After Sunday I would be hoping for very competitive championship displays and hopefully a scalp somewhere this year, but still maybe 2-3 years away from really contending

Figsy32

stumblingblock wrote: »

I thought that the Murray brothers had all transferred to Blackrock in Cork?

Dan Shan said in an interview over the weekend that the panel is an open shop, and anyone who shows good club form over the next few weeks can still be called-up. Including some of the older lads who had been dropped before Christmas.

One of the transfers didn't go through apparently is what I've heard on the Cork end!