Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

The blue blaa

stumblingblock wrote: »

That’s a shame if true. Ive heard there is quite a bit of discontent with the managers decision to bring in a couple of this years minors straight onto the team. A big call by management starting 2 minors in an u21 championship game. Not like this year’s minors set the world alight or that we are badly stuck for strength in depth at u21 level. Im not sure about Lyons abilities as a manager but in fairness the result in Cork was good whatever way you want to look at it. But there’s definitely no excuse for being stuck without a recognised keeper especially given the amount of challenge games played and number of players that were tried throughout the year. If this group of players dosent get a win up in Ennis then serious questions need to be answered again. We beat Clare the last 3 years in a row at minor and while it will be tough test we should be winning this game realistically. It’s a good idea having Mullane and Tony on board but the buck will ultimately have to stop with the manager.

Correction, weve beat Clare 4 times in the previous 3 years at minor.

StumblingBlock have you ever been involved in any kind of Coaching/Mentoring Capacity with an adult team?? I'm not being smart here now but the argument your putting forward simply doesn't stand from my experience anyway. Minor form of the past 3 years does not reflect on U21 form it's not as straightforward as your suggesting. One interesting Stat granted its from the progression of Juvenile into Adult but no team that has won the Div 1 Tony Forristal competition has went onto win the All Ireland Minor competition 4yrs later, Tipp are the current team left to bust that statistic this year. You question Lyons ability and say the buck has to lie with him if we lose to Clare in Ennis, but forget to mention they have overcome a hurdle that for 5 years no waterford team could overcome not to mention we had previously never beaten Cork U21 since 1992. Now he has lost his goalkeeper Nolan an both other options are also lost to injury and to travelling, yet its his fault. I find that hard to believe how he was to predict such an outcome. Who in your opinion would you put on the Goal now?? We're not exactly flush with goalkeepers with them 3 out. The All Ireland winning minor team had an outfield player on goal!!

Giveitfong

archieknox wrote: »

Does anyone know what Jordan Henley is like in this position?

Henley was the substitute minor goalkeeper for Waterford last year. He played a full game in a very competitive challenge against Dublin that I was at and gave an excellent performance, including a couple of brilliant point-blank saves.

He was one of the better performers playing in the half back line for this year's county minor team. He is big and strong and a good hurler. The latter is an important point, as sometimes specialist goalkeepers don't have the hurling to get out of tight situations in front of goal.

Hammer Archer

Right, once again this thread has descended into childish bickering and mudslinging.
I'd like to remind you all to read the mod note in the opening post of the thread and if the same crap happens again we'll have no problem locking the thread temporarily. Remember to report any posts you feel cross the line.

Seriously lads and lassies, the weather's great and ye have a Munster final to look forward to. A bit of positivity wouldn't go astray

mickotallow

Giveitfong wrote: »

Henley was the substitute minor goalkeeper for Waterford last year. He played a full game in a very competitive challenge against Dublin that I was at and gave an excellent performance, including a couple of brilliant point-blank saves.

He was one of the better performers playing in the half back line for this year's county minor team. He is big and strong and a good hurler. The latter is an important point, as sometimes specialist goalkeepers don't have the hurling to get out of tight situations in front of goal.

Speaking as someone who knows Jordan he will not be fazed by being thrown into the 21 set up. He is a confident young fella but not cocky. He is very skillful and has a great hand which is probably more important these days than being a good shot stopper which he also happens to be. He came on as a blood sub last year for the minors and saved a penalty.
When I heard he had been called up to the 21 panel I asked the Tallow manager what he was like and he spoke very highly of him and said that he trains very well and that he would have no fears of him in goal.

PTH2009

http://www.clubdeise.com/deise-blue-white-anthem/

all of tipp must be laughing at us, releasing a song for a munster final. is it really needed. I dont recall songs being recorded for the 2009-2012 munster finals. Fair play to the lads who done it.

HatchetMan7

PTH2009 wrote: »

http://www.clubdeise.com/deise-blue-white-anthem/

all of tipp must be laughing at us, releasing a song for a munster final. is it really needed. I dont recall songs being recorded for the 2009-2012 munster finals. Fair play to the lads who done it.

Fair play Andy and Martin. Up the Deise

danganabu

PTH2009 wrote: »

http://www.clubdeise.com/deise-blue-white-anthem/

all of tipp must be laughing at us, releasing a song for a munster final. is it really needed. I dont recall songs being recorded for the 2009-2012 munster finals. Fair play to the lads who done it.

Dont see any harm in it at all and in fact I think its great that this Munster Final seems to be generating a lot of interest, there was certainly a danger in recent times that the Munster Final was becoming a bit of a non-entity which would be an awful shame.

Waterford are on a crest of a wave right now and the fact that it came from nowhere and have suprosed even themselves, this added to the fact that this Tipp team probably need to win a trophy to have something to show for the last 18 months, should lead to a great occasion.

deiseach

It's great seeing all the white and blue flags sprouting around the county. I see them and can't help myself:

3ships

Daragh Fives came thru the Dublin challenge OK according to WLR. Didn't hear any more of it. Think Shane McNulty is the only doubt ahead of the games coming up

skaface

Whatever about songs and flags ( we've seen it all before!! ) , People need to make an effort and
actually start traveling to matches again, starting with the Munster Final Sunday week..
Time for the Waterford Public to get behind the team and start making Noise again at matches..
Doesn't get much bigger or better than Munster Final day in Thurles!!
Up The Deise ;-))

windy shepard henderson

waterford crossbar challenge . . . . . looks a bit close for my liking :pac:

HatchetMan7

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

waterford crossbar challenge . . . . . looks a bit close for my liking :pac:

Clare did theirs from about 5 yards outside 21 yard line where the 2 cones were set up. Waterford did theirs on the 21 yard line. The Clare camera is set up so that it looks much further away but ya Waterfords was a little closer alright. On a side note Tom Devine is some size of a man.

windy shepard henderson

HatchetMan7 wrote: »

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

waterford crossbar challenge . . . . . looks a bit close for my liking :pac:

Clare did theirs from about 5 yards outside 21 yard line where the 2 cones were set up. Waterford did theirs on the 21 yard line. The Clare camera is set up so that it looks much further away but ya Waterfords was a little closer alright. On a side note Tom Devine is some size of a man.

its only a bit of craic anyway, good atmosphere in the waterford camp looks like club side in terms of camaraderie something that is very hard to get right at inter county level , confidence dose look very high in the camp

HatchetMan7

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

HatchetMan7 wrote: »

its only a bit of craic anyway, good atmosphere in the waterford camp looks like club side in terms of camaraderie something that is very hard to get right at inter county level , confidence dose look very high in the camp

I think what may help also is that there's no huge favourite to win the senior club in Waterford. Its the most open and competitive i've ever seen it. There is also a big contribution from the intermediate clubs not just on the panel but in the team also. About 5 starters at the moment and 2/3 coming off the bench that play with intermediate clubs (and one junior club represented). The intermediate is very very competitive and the highest standard of hurling thats ever been in that grade in Waterford. An example of this is how well Ballysaggart and Cappaquin did when representing the county in Munster in junior and intermediate respectively. Where as normally at this grade club teams in the past would get well beaten in Munster.

deisedude

Some piece of skill from Pa Walsh in that video!

deiseach

There'd better be a minute's silence in Thurles for Val Doonican, or there'll be hell to pay!

fricatus

deiseach wrote: »

There'd better be a minute's silence in Thurles for Val Doonican, or there'll be hell to pay!

There was one for Ronnie Drew at the 2008 semi final we won against Tipp I think. I know they put his picture up on the big screen there anyway because I have a photo of it somewhere.

deiseach

Cody would never tolerate preparing lads to hit the crossbar. No wonder we can't win anything.

JesusRef

deiseach wrote: »

Cody would never tolerate preparing lads to hit the crossbar. No wonder we can't win anything.

Ya I can't wait for Kilkenny to take the fun out of this for everyone 😀

Richie hogan will hit the crossbar via both posts, then up will step TJ Reid - wallop the crossbar and the goal frame will fall backwards

skaface

James Owen from Wexford is the Referee for Munster Final

skaface

James Owen from Wexford is the Referee for Munster Final

letowski

skaface wrote:

James Owen from Wexford is the Referee for Munster Final

Very whistle happy ref as we all know. Maurice will really have to be bring his A game again on the frees, Mahony was arguably the form freetaker in the country before his injury. Tipp obviously very clinical in this area with Callinan and Bubbles from distance.

robopaddy2

The funniest part of the crossbar video is when Dan takes off running like a mad egit on a solo celebration expecting everyone to follow him but ends up being left pure hanging... Priceless

deiseach

Let's all get to Thurles good and early so we can cheer on the three-in-a-row chasing Limerick, something I mention without any desire to refer to their win last night over Cork who we were told were flying in training and all that jazz.

*grins*

PTH2009

Will it be hard to pick ourselves up for a quarter final if Tipperary do beat us ??? Going by the crossbar challenge they are a very tite bunch of players and morale seems brillent, we're very fit and skilful too

I have that feeling it will be us vs Clare in the quarters.

If we win the Munster final it will be brilliant to be guaranteed a game in croke park but beating Tipperary in thurles will be the hardest task( cork done it in the 2006 Munster final)

Jjjjjjjbarry

Is it likely that tickets.ie will have more stand tickets available before the game or will that just be it now?

What happens all the tickets gone to clubs that won't sell?
Will the ticket office outside Semple Stadium have stand tickets available on the day? Risky to wait?


Which terrace will be the Waterford side?

thanks!

Orizio

deiseach wrote: »

Let's all get to Thurles good and early so we can cheer on the three-in-a-row chasing Limerick, something I mention without any desire to refer to their win last night over Cork who we were told were flying in training and all that jazz.

*grins*

What.

Mountainlad

Jjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

Is it likely that tickets.ie will have more stand tickets available before the game or will that just be it now?

What happens all the tickets gone to clubs that won't sell?
Will the ticket office outside Semple Stadium have stand tickets available on the day? Risky to wait?


Which terrace will be the Waterford side?

thanks!

Killinan. It was in 2009, and generally tends to be. I assume it's smaller.

Jjjjjjjbarry

Thanks, I'll probably just go there so!

PTH2009

Jjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

Thanks, I'll probably just go there so!

Tipp fans have the killian end and we have the town end according to tickets.ie last week

i think Waterford County Board missed out on this Daytripper thing in town. They could easily of put it on in Walsh park, the pitch is big enough for People and you could fit bars and food outlets there too. They could of run shuttle buses from the city centre and other parts of the town. it could of generated some money for the board

At the start of the year i really thought we would be travelling to a hurling match today, glad i was wrong

pajoguy

I see ye have a song out already. Hope ye dont fall into the hype trap like limerick did in 2013. It was crazy stuff.

If ye win next sunday ye will be hard to stop. Best of luck to ye.

deisedude

pajoguy wrote: »

I see ye have a song out already. Hope ye dont fall into the hype trap like limerick did in 2013. It was crazy stuff.

If ye win next sunday ye will be hard to stop. Best of luck to ye.

Just because one eejit releases some crap song doesn't mean we are all buying into hype

HillFarmer

Delighted so far with our season but it's Tipp for me in the Munster final by at least 6.

I was confident against Cork on both occasions but Tipp I believe will be a step too far. We have come a long way in a year but looking at the likes of Bubbles, Callinan and Bonner these guys are top class and are in their prime.

Reviewing the League game against Tip, they were able to gain possession relatively easily on our half back line and with the likes of Pauric Maher given time to pick out passes I fear we'll be going through the back door.

I just can't see us getting enough scores to win and containing those forwards.


Delighted to be proven wrong.

tomwaterford

I think we have a super chance here...all this talk of who we will play in the quarters is very dismissive

Look it....tipp HAVE to win....I taught the fact Limerick were so unfit (certain Limerick forward looked several stone overweight)...papered over cracks to a certain extent
Many of that tipp forward line aren't head and shoulders better than there Waterford counterparts....calinan is exceptional alright
It should come down to a midfield battle and Jamie Barron will hardly be as poor again....I think the wat defense should have enough to contain tipp forwards by and large (who won't get as much ball pinpointed to them again)

Will wat attack be good enough??

Anyone hazard a guess on a starting team for Sunday???

Ropaire

Yeah Limerick didn't seem to be up to much vs Tipp, emptied the tank to get back into it at the start of the second half and then fell away badly.

Fair dues to Skully above in Westmeath, 4 points off Limerick when a wide was flagged as a goal in the last few mins. Should have been alot closer. No disrespect to Westmeath but you'd have expected Limerick to win by more, they don't seem to be at much this year and it's now looking more like Limerick were poor as opposed to Tipp were unreal. We'll find out Sunday!

Mountainlad

Only change from the last day Id say would be Shane Bennett for O'Halloran.

It'll take their best performance of the year but they are definitely going in best position they have against Tipp for a long time. Should be a cracking game and a big attendance by the sounds of it too.

tomwaterford

Mountainlad wrote: »

Only change from the last day Id say would be Shane Bennett for O'Halloran.

It'll take their best performance of the year but they are definitely going in best position they have against Tipp for a long time. Should be a cracking game and a big attendance by the sounds of it too.

What's the Waterford terrace as I've no ticket got yet and doubt il get a stand one now

Mountainlad

Ropaire wrote: »

Yeah Limerick didn't seem to be up to much vs Tipp, emptied the tank to get back into it at the start of the second half and then fell away badly.

Fair dues to Skully above in Westmeath, 4 points off Limerick when a wide was flagged as a goal in the last few mins. Should have been alot closer. No disrespect to Westmeath but you'd have expected Limerick to win by more, they don't seem to be at much this year and it's now looking more like Limerick were poor as opposed to Tipp were unreal. We'll find out Sunday!

They won by 12 that goal was just after half time to put them 5 up. They were in touch late on, and ahead just before half time as well having been 7 down early on. A good showing, maybe there'll be a sting in the tail but Limerick are struggling this year.

Mountainlad

tomwaterford wrote: »

What's the Waterford terrace as I've no ticket got yet and doubt il get a stand one now

I would have thought Kilinan but seems a bit up in the air. I'd ring someone in the county board or the club if you have one. We've always been in the Kilinan when there was an assigned terrace, including v Tipp in 2009 and I do recall somebody telling me we wouldn't be before the game because Tipp were always in it but I don't see why it would change now.

tomwaterford

Mountainlad wrote: »

I would have thought Kilinan but seems a bit up in the air. I'd ring someone in the county board or the club if you have one. We've always been in the Kilinan when there was an assigned terrace, including v Tipp in 2009 and I do recall somebody telling me we wouldn't be before the game because Tipp were always in it but I don't see why it would change now.

Ya...I didn't even go about tickets at the club...should be good craic....I remember being there in 09...god it's so long now....this has the potential to be a massive upset!

HatchetMan7

tomwaterford wrote: »

I think we have a super chance here...all this talk of who we will play in the quarters is very dismissive

Look it....tipp HAVE to win....I taught the fact Limerick were so unfit (certain Limerick forward looked several stone overweight)...papered over cracks to a certain extent
Many of that tipp forward line aren't head and shoulders better than there Waterford counterparts....calinan is exceptional alright
It should come down to a midfield battle and Jamie Barron will hardly be as poor again....I think the wat defense should have enough to contain tipp forwards by and large (who won't get as much ball pinpointed to them again)

Will wat attack be good enough??

Anyone hazard a guess on a starting team for Sunday???

1. Stephen O Keeffe

2. Shane Fives
3. Barry Coughlan
4. Neol Connors

5. Austin Gleeson
6. Tadgh de Burca
7. Philip Mahoney

8. Kevin Moran
9. Jamie Barron

10. Jake Dillon
11. Brick Walsh
12. Shane Bennett

13. Stephan Bennett
14. Maurice Shanahan
15. Colin Dunford

This would be the most likely team with the likes of Stephan Bennett switching out to half forward line for periods of the game.
Tom Devine, Brian O Halloran and Patrick Curran seeing action in the forward line, Eddie Barrett coming into midfield at some stage and maybe Darragh Fives although I would say he's probably still a few weeks away from being up to championship intensity.

tomwaterford

HatchetMan7 wrote: »

1. Stephen O Keeffe

2. Shane Fives
3. Barry Coughlan
4. Neol Connors

5. Austin Gleeson
6. Tadgh de Burca
7. Philip Mahoney

8. Kevin Moran
9. Jamie Barron

10. Jake Dillon
11. Brick Walsh
12. Shane Bennett

13. Stephan Bennett
14. Maurice Shanahan
15. Colin Dunford

This would be the most likely team with the likes of Stephan Bennett switching out to half forward line for periods of the game.
Tom Devine, Brian O Halloran and Patrick Curran seeing action in the forward line, Eddie Barrett coming into midfield at some stage and maybe Darragh Fives although I would say he's probably still a few weeks away from being up to championship intensity.

Hard to find a place for paddy curren unless Maurice has a stinker
One thing we will need is him to be nailed on with the frees again

Psychedelic

tomwaterford wrote: »

What's the Waterford terrace as I've no ticket got yet and doubt il get a stand one now

We're in the Town End.
http://munster.gaa.ie/2015/06/22/munster-senior-hurling-championship-final-5/

skaface

tomwaterford wrote: »

What's the Waterford terrace as I've no ticket got yet and doubt il get a stand one now

Waterford in the Town end

robopaddy2

HillFarmer wrote: »

Delighted so far with our season but it's Tipp for me in the Munster final by at least 6.

I was confident against Cork on both occasions but Tipp I believe will be a step too far. We have come a long way in a year but looking at the likes of Bubbles, Callinan and Bonner these guys are top class and are in their prime.

Reviewing the League game against Tip, they were able to gain possession relatively easily on our half back line and with the likes of Pauric Maher given time to pick out passes I fear we'll be going through the back door.

I just can't see us getting enough scores to win and containing those forwards.


Delighted to be proven wrong.

I'd be inclined to agree. Tipp looked to have stepped up another level against Limerick to where they were at in the league semi when we beat them. It was frightening at times to see the likes of Callinan and bubbles, the speed of their hurling and so clinical in front of the posts. They have a forward line that can bury any team in a matter of minutes. I also think there will be a massive hunger in them for this Munster final. Yes there will be pressure on them having a home Munster final but Waterford have been talked about as the form team of the year so far, and Tipp will be mad to knock us off our perch. I can't see them being complacent as the surprise factor is gone from us now. Also given that KK are back in the semi final on the opposite side of the draw they will be keen to avoid a semi with them given their record against them in recent seasons. We need a good start early to have any chance of winning, because Tipp will hit a purple patch at some stage in the game and when that happens it just a matter of how much you can contain it.

KevIRL

Dublin v limerick
Cork v clare

That's the qualifier round 2 draw

taytobreath

is it this Wednesday they are making tickets available to be sold at walsh park or was that last wednesday, im feckin unreal for leavin these things till the last minute

PTH2009

KevIRL wrote: »

Dublin v limerick
Cork v clare

That's the qualifier round 2 draw

If we lose and Dublin win we will play them in the quarters as they can't play galway

If Clare and Limerick win then they will be a draw if we're involved

If cork and Limerick win than its cork vs galway, Limerick vs Waterford or Tipperary vs cork, Limerick vs galway. .

Thurles will probly get the quarters too

sheepo

How come you reckon Thurles would have the quarter finals? I thought they were always in Croker

Figsy32

sheepo wrote: »

How come you reckon Thurles would have the quarter finals? I thought they were always in Croker

They've been in Thurles for the last few years.