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Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Figsy32 wrote: »
    There's no such thing as a flawless system though. All you can do is try to hide your weaknesses and keep your strengths. That's what Waterford are doing atm. They have a lot of young lads with great talent and great engines like Dunford, Barron and Gleeson as well as grizzled veterans like Moran and Brick to win ball. They're keeping the house safe by not conceding goals and, although wasteful yesterday, have good long distance shooters like Gleeson, Fives, Moran. Between Shanahan and others coming from deep they have a goal threat as shown against Cork.

    IMO they are a couple forwards short and not conditioned enouh because of the youth to compete with Kilkenny and Tipp on a man to man basis, as Culbaire advocates. They got close to Tipp without lads like Gleeson or Dunford firing like they have previously.

    This is their best option at the moment I feel. By all means it should be tweaked depending on opposition but the general idea is the right one.

    I see your point and yes yere not conceding but there's no real danger in attack and if kk get a lead the problem arises

    The worry also is waterford in the last two games start slowly
    You will get away with it against every team in the country but not Kilkenny who will blitz any team if they get the chance in a period of the game


    I think the system prevents scores yes but fact it won't imo beat the big teams is the worry

    A game is about a combination of attack and defence


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    It's been mentioned i think but yesterday i thought we really missed Paudie and not because of frees or anything.

    He was a huge loss in terms general play fair enough but tippeary could argue Noel McGrath was just as big as a loss for them so it balanced out imo


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭letsseehere14


    Did they though,they won yes but they didn't unravel waterfords system,they didn't run in 7 goals, they didn't have a sniff of a goal, and Waterford couldn't hit a cows arse with a shovel.


    Perhaps Tipperarys forwards also did not perform on the day. A team that usually scores goals, maybe they had somewhat of an off day. Yet against this so called uber tight defence of Waterfords they still managed 21 points!!! Imagine if they happened on 1 goal? Waterford would have needed 25 to win. They scored 16! That's a big step up required.

    Kilkenny would match Tipp and perhaps get a few goals. Does Waterford have the capability of scoring 25 plus points against these teams? That's the scoreline required at this stage of the season to win matches.

    Talking about a solid defence is all well and good but ye still conceded 21 points. No better than what most teams do defensively.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Perhaps Tipperarys forwards also did not perform on the day. A team that usually scores goals, maybe they had somewhat of an off day. Yet against this so called uber tight defence of Waterfords they still managed 21 points!!! Imagine if they happened on 1 goal? Waterford would have needed 25 to win. They scored 16! That's a big step up required.

    Kilkenny would match Tipp and perhaps get a few goals. Does Waterford have the capability of scoring 25 plus points against these teams? That's the scoreline required at this stage of the season to win matches.

    Talking about a solid defence is all well and good but ye still conceded 21 points. No better than what most teams do defensively.
    That's a good post and similar to my views


    Tippeary didn't even create a chance of goal and yes waterford didn't allow them that but kk will at least create goal chance

    If kk get a goal waterford plan of containment isn't good enough in people have since may in the media said there's definitely an all ireland in waterford in the next few years


    If that is so they need to show more ambitious plans going forward
    Kk will be around for a while with the average age of the team around twenty five
    I agree your point and it's well made in waterford defence still conceded twenty one points so while it prevented goals it showed imo weakness conceding points and is certainly not as unbreakable as it was in may deemed as


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭deisedude


    culbaire wrote: »
    Spell it out!! Incidentally you conveniently OMITTED a large part of the post which indicated the type of hurling to ACCOMPANY the structure. Judging by the flippancy of your remarks that is hardly surprising. Lets here your approach in DETAIL. One thing is certain Waterford will not win an ALL Ireland with the current approach. Incidentally I did not indicate IN DETAIL how I would utilize the players in the full forward line. Neither did I indicate FULLY how I would use the two centre field players. I gave a broad outline of the structure. Incidentally you introduced the "10 yards". I DID NOT.
    For your information a former Cork coach reckons as well that the structure I outlined is far superior to the current structure. Spell out in detail how you would break it down. Lets hear your plan. Also outline the hurling style you would use to accompany your structure. You are obviously a brilliant Junior B manager as indicated by the massive detail in your post. You post is typical of the "circle the wagons brigade". You just dont want to hear alternative points of view.

    I apologise for offending you. My remark was indeed flippant and borne more out of frustration that people are calling for us to completely overhaul something that for the most part works, i agree it needs tweaking (another body in the full forward line for a start) but abandonment of it altogether would be foolhardy. When we went man to man in defence in the last few years we shipped huge scores. You only need to look at Limericks defence against Tipp a few weeks back to see what could have happened if we hadn't played a sweeper. Our main problem yesterday was with personnel rather than a system. Tipps forwards were that bit more composed and that partly comes with experience. We had plenty of chances for points and didn't take them but we have a lot of young forwards and it was a big step up but they will learn from it.

    Honestly i think we are a bit off Tipp and Kilkenny this year no matter what tactics we use but I think McGrath's system will get us in with a shout and on our day we might just pull off a shock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭skaface


    We have to beat Dublin first before we start talking about Kilkenny..
    While I think we will have too much hurling for Dublin, if we don't treat them with the upmost respect we could be in for a serious battle if
    we become complacent..
    Hopefully we will get as much support in two
    weeks time as we had yesterday, now is the
    time to get behind this young team..
    Up the Deise ;-))


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/both-tipperary-and-waterford-have-plenty-of-room-for-improvement-1.2282579

    English be fair since day one has always supported waterford in he's articles so people shouldn't think hes having a go here but he's making the point a few of us are making

    He's right the system must adapt


  • Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭culbaire


    deisedude wrote: »
    I apologise for offending you. My remark was indeed flippant and borne more out of frustration that people are calling for us to completely overhaul something that for the most part works, i agree it needs tweaking (another body in the full forward line for a start) but abandonment of it altogether would be foolhardy. When we went man to man in defence in the last few years we shipped huge scores. You only need to look at Limericks defence against Tipp a few weeks back to see what could have happened if we hadn't played a sweeper. Our main problem yesterday was with personnel rather than a system. Tipps forwards were that bit more composed and that partly comes with experience. We had plenty of chances for points and didn't take them but we have a lot of young forwards and it was a big step up but they will learn from it.

    Honestly i think we are a bit off Tipp and Kilkenny this year no matter what tactics we use but I think McGrath's system will get us in with a shout and on our day we might just pull off a shock
    No offence taken at all. I take the points you made. I know we are all a bit down at been beaten by Tipperary. As you know it can be a bit hard to listen to some of the Tipperary supporters in the border areas. But that's GAA rivalry. Hopefully we can take Dublin. Then who knows what will happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭taytobreath


    http://www.gaa.ie/tickets-and-merchandise/tickets/

    what are people getting when they click this link, tickets i think are available for the match on the 26th

    Im getting some sort of security error


  • Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭Ropaire


    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/both-tipperary-and-waterford-have-plenty-of-room-for-improvement-1.2282579

    English be fair since day one has always supported waterford in he's articles so people shouldn't think hes having a go here but he's making the point a few of us are making

    He's right the system must adapt

    Haha, you're a gas man. I read that article earlier today, its the one where he praises Cork at the end isn't it. Was that the part you were hoping would be read?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Ropaire wrote: »
    Haha, you're a gas man. I read that article earlier today, its the one where he praises Cork at the end isn't it. Was that the part you were hoping would be read?

    No its nothing to do with it

    I posted it as he called for a change of system and he won all ireland eighteen games unbeatenand just to show not everyone buys this system is the finished article


    You must remember after the league final and ist game many felt waterford were all ireland contenders and the system was fine and unbeatable
    It was never truth be told
    For its worth I don't believe cork will win the all ireland as much as it pains me to say it
    But you must have realism


  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭Alf Tupper


    No its nothing to do with it

    I posted it as he called for a change of system and he won all ireland eighteen games unbeatenand just to show not everyone buys this system is the finished article


    You must remember after the league final and ist game many felt waterford were all ireland contenders and the system was fine and unbeatable
    It was never truth be told
    For its worth I don't believe cork will win the all ireland as much as it pains me to say it
    But you must have realism


    Oh the all knowing, all seeing Messiah has returned from a sabbatical just because Waterford suffered a defeat.

    http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/07/13/waterford-confirm-they-didnt-want-to-win-munster-title-anyway/


    Have a read of the above link and replace the words "Waterford" for "Cork" and "Tipperary" for Waterford and "National League" for "Munster Title" and you might realise the line of bull**** that you were pedalling on here back in May before you disappeared.

    In case you don't know, the above site is well know for it comedic value. Give them a shout and you might get a job with them as a clown, albeit a bitter one!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Alf Tupper wrote: »
    Oh the all knowing, all seeing Messiah has returned from a sabbatical just because Waterford suffered a defeat.

    http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/07/13/waterford-confirm-they-didnt-want-to-win-munster-title-anyway/


    Have a read of the link above and replace the words "Waterford" for "Cork" and "Tipperary" for Waterford and "National League" for "Munster Title" and you might realise the line of bull**** that you were on here pedalling back in May before you disappeared.

    In case you don't know, the above site is well know for it comedic value. Give them a shout and you might get a job with them as a clown, albeit a bitter one!
    I'm giving an opinion about the match nothing more nothing less
    I simply didn't post after the cork match as we had reached cross roads where views were different

    We have moved on from the cork game and Cork have thankfully as the last two games showed and were now a fully fit squad for the ist time all year

    The game we're taking about is yesterday game and all I'm doing is giving an opinion
    That's the only game I'm here to debate and waterford future games
    I respect your right to one please respect mine

    Back to the topic on hand waterford will be huge favourite and justified so should beat Dublin

    Would you change anything for the Dublin game

    I would put Glasson up at half forward the next day and see how it works


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Deise189


    I think one player who rarely gets a mention but deserves it is Shane Fives. He was absolutely incredible yesterday and took his scores superbly! One of the most underrated players in the country and undoubtedly one of the best corner backs in the country at the minute. Delighted to see him playing so well this year after being used as a scapegoat at times last year when our defence was being scrutinised.


  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭Alf Tupper


    I'm giving an opinion about the match nothing more nothing less
    I simply didn't post after the cork match as we had reached cross roads where views were different

    We have moved on from the cork game and Cork have thankfully as the last two games showed and were now a fully fit squad for the ist time all year

    The game we're taking about is yesterday game and all I'm doing is giving an opinion
    That's the only game I'm here to debate and waterford future games
    I respect your right to one please respect mine

    Back to the topic on hand waterford will be huge favourite and justified so should beat Dublin

    Would you change anything for the Dublin game

    I would put Glasson up at half forward the next day and see how it works

    Cut the bulls**t, you're only on here to release your vitriol at Waterford beating ye twice and bask in some schadenfreude.

    If ye were beaten on Saturday night you would still be awol.

    Do everyone a favour, get rid of that bitterness that is eating you and get a life outside this site


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Deise189 wrote: »
    I think one player who rarely gets a mention but deserves it is Shane Fives. He was absolutely incredible yesterday and took his scores superbly! One of the most underrated players in the country and undoubtedly one of the best corner backs in the country at the minute. Delighted to see him playing so well this year after being used as a scapegoat at times last year when our defence was being scrutinised.
    I'd agree in line for an all star as himself and Barrett are in pole position for corner back awards

    Murphy cork is good in he's three games considering he's no league behind him


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    This game with Dublin is a tough one for ger Cunningham in he's lot affection for waterford hurling from Ballygunner

    I know himself and Paul flynn got on very well
    Also humphrey Kellher the ex Dublin manager from waterford so there's connection on boat sides

    It should be a great day in thurles with four counties there and the minor game is on at twelve also that day


  • Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭DeiseDawg


    Tickets for quarter finals now available online


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭skaface


    Deise189 wrote: »
    I think one player who rarely gets a mention but deserves it is Shane Fives. He was absolutely incredible yesterday and took his scores superbly! One of the most underrated players in the country and undoubtedly one of the best corner backs in the country at the minute. Delighted to see him playing so well this year after being used as a scapegoat at times last year when our defence was being scrutinised.

    I'd love to see him in midfield the next day, some man to grab a ball out of the sky,
    and well able to run past a tackle and take a score.. Well worth a go there


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    DeiseDawg wrote: »
    Tickets for quarter finals now available online

    It'll be funny to see the empty seats on the 26th as the bandwagon hits a speed bump!

    I've never seen/heard so many clueless "supporters" at a game as I did yesterday. As somebody else said, they obviously hadn't seen this team play before.


  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭Alf Tupper


    Deise189 wrote: »
    I think one player who rarely gets a mention but deserves it is Shane Fives. He was absolutely incredible yesterday and took his scores superbly! One of the most underrated players in the country and undoubtedly one of the best corner backs in the country at the minute. Delighted to see him playing so well this year after being used as a scapegoat at times last year when our defence was being scrutinised.

    True indeed.

    Shane is an example to any young lad trying to make the breakthrough. This lad has been on the panel since 2008 and has been f*cked around by every manager since, including the present one. For the lad to be dropped last year for the first round against Cork was unforgivable, especially after being one of our best players in the league.

    For Shane to prove the doubters wrong this year, including the selection committee showed unbelievable resolve. He is now undroppable!

    If only ever player had to work as hard for selection, our chances would be even more greatly enhanced.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭Deise_2012


    skaface wrote: »
    I'd love to see him in midfield the next day, some man to grab a ball out of the sky,
    and well able to run past a tackle and take a score.. Well worth a go there
    Midfield? We have Jamie Barron and Kevin Moran there, leave Shane in the corner where he's having a super year. Lads TTM is a gas man, like we're all saying...not a peep out of him here since the Cork game, after the loss yesterday look who's here all of a sudden haha.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Alf Tupper wrote: »
    True indeed.

    Shane is an example to any young lad trying to make the breakthrough. This lad has been on the panel since 2008 and has been f*cked around by every manager since, including the present one. For the lad to be dropped last year for the first round against Cork was unforgivable, especially after being one of our best players in the league.

    For Shane to prove the doubters wrong this year, including the selection committee showed unbelievable resolve. He is now undroppable!

    If only ever player had to work as hard for selection, our chances would be even more greatly enhanced.
    I'd agree he's been sustained excellent and is with out any shadow of a doubt one of the best corner backs around

    Himself and Barrett of tippeary are the best in the game


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Deise_2012 wrote: »
    Midfield? We have Jamie Barron and Kevin Moran there, leave Shane in the corner where he's having a super year. Lads TTM is a gas man, like we're all saying...not a peep out of him here since the Cork game, after the loss yesterday look who's here all of a sudden haha.
    Moran was outstanding with elven plays two superb point and one assist


    Barron I had doubts at the start of the year but he was superb

    Nothing really should change in the defence bar Gleasson worth a try as a forward as he has all the skills for it and to become a better team ye must score more
    Out of all the teams left ye with Dublin are probably the ones with least scoring threat from play
    Dublin is and ideal chance to work on this


  • Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭Giveitfong


    Deise_2012 wrote: »
    Midfield? We have Jamie Barron and Kevin Moran there, leave Shane in the corner where he's having a super year.

    Playing Shane Fives in midfield is not as far-fetched as it may at first seem. Jamie Barron doesn't really play in midfield, but in the hole between the wing backs created by Tadhg de Búrca's withdrawn positioning as sweeper. Fives's combination of drive & energy, mobility, ability in the air and good ball skills may not be most effectively used in the corner back position and could be more effectively used in conjunction with Moran in midfield. Stephen Daniels has shown in the past that he can be a very effective corner back.

    Darragh Fives should have been brought on last Sunday instead of Shane Bennett to replace Eddie Barrett, as he is much more suited to the kind of role that Barrett was trying to play (but not very successfully). We cannot afford to have a player as good as Darragh Fives on the sideline. Long-term he should take Austin Gleeson's place in the half back line. Gleeson lacks defensive technique (for example, he can't tackle), gives away stupid frees (he could easily have got a red card last Sunday for his swipe at Bonner Maher), wastes good possession with his ridiculous long-distance shooting and rarely gives good ball into the forwards. He showed with his late run which nearly produced a goal his ability to run at defences and should be moved up to the forwards where he could greatly enhance our scoring potential.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭paddy13


    I'm giving an opinion about the match nothing more nothing less
    I simply didn't post after the cork match as we had reached cross roads where views were different

    We have moved on from the cork game and Cork have thankfully as the last two games showed and were now a fully fit squad for the ist time all year

    The game we're taking about is yesterday game and all I'm doing is giving an opinion
    That's the only game I'm here to debate and waterford future games
    I respect your right to one please respect mine

    Back to the topic on hand waterford will be huge favourite and justified so should beat Dublin

    Would you change anything for the Dublin game

    I would put Glasson up at half forward the next day and see how it works

    I agree with you there i would move Gleeson forward and would want more scores from Stephen Bennett or else I'd start Shane or Patrick Curran.
    Look I would say we all think we will not win an All Ireland this year, what are looking for is continuous improvement which I believe we seen again Sun even though we lost as the opposition was much more tactical and of better quality.


  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭blueflame


    Have read a lot of alternatives such as pulling out the half forwards into midfield, the aim I assume being to crowd the midfield area and leave space in front of the full forward line. In my opinion there is nothing new in this tactic as most counties will allow there center back to sit back and cover the area in from of the full back line to prevent ball being played into the space created The congested area of midfield where our entire half forward line are now operating will result in our extra man (our center forward) being swallowed up amongst the masses. The congestion also results in little time and space to play good quality ball in, which is what is needed to bypass the deep lying center back. Tipp in that past caused us problems using a tactic on Brick by withdrawing Noel McGrath into the center of the field and pushing on their wing forwards. This left Brick with the option of staying at home and covering the space, thereby giving Noel McGrath freedom in midfield with time and space to hurt us with good quality ball or to follow him out and leave a gaping hole in front of our full back line. This type of tactic gave rise to the sweeper system.

    I agree that ground hurling has gone out of the game , but that is because the current game is so much about possession. When rucks form, which they do quite regularly, the option of pulling on the ball is gone as the first player who tires it is going to be penalized and possibly booked for dangerous play. I noticed in the recent games that KK seem to have adopted the tactic of almost stamping the ball into the ground to prevent it being moved.

    Having looked again and again st last Sunday's game feel the areas we need to tweak are :

    - We need a minimum of two in the full forward line and the ball into them has to be into area not right out in the corner but in the general vicinity, because the full back will think twice about abandoning his station in front of goal to support his corner back, At least then we have one on one battles. A big key in this is that when we get the balls in we must have serious support runners coming through the center, and this is where the likes of Moran, Shanahan and Gleeson, have a big part to play.

    The experiment with withdrawing Colin Dunford to midfield is not working - he lacks the ability to score from distance, and two many times uses up his touch to son and ends up striking for scores off the hurley. Playing him in the corner though is a different matter entirely and no corner back will like to be isolated on him because he is direct, aggressive and has a good first touch. We should ensure that the opposition sweeper or deep lying center back as the case may be has effectively got someone close to them to ensure that they are occupied, and also give us the option of a man breaking through the center in support of the corner backs when they get the ball - fro me Stephen Bennett would be ideal in this role.

    Finally agree that the experiment with Barrett did not work last Sunday, but i feel this had much to do with Match practice and being up to speed. I genuinely feel that Darragh Fives would have suffered from the same problem. Think last Sunday will have done Barrett the world of good. I have seen him in some challenge games recently and he was very effective, so would not be writing him off just yet. As regards Fives the sooner we get more game time out of him the better but do not want him breaking down again so soon. Fives to wing back and Gleeson to Center Field / Half Forward sounds very appetizing.

    There is alot of hurling to be done this year yet, let's focus on Dublin and if we get past them, then we will worry about KK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭skaface


    Deise_2012 wrote: »
    Midfield? We have Jamie Barron and Kevin Moran there, leave Shane in the corner where he's having a super year. Lads TTM is a gas man, like we're all saying...not a peep out of him here since the Cork game, after the loss yesterday look who's here all of a sudden haha.

    Fair enough, but would be an option if you wanted to push Moran up front later in the game
    if you were behind like we were on Sunday, going into last 10 mins


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 486 ✭✭Jjjjjjjbarry


    I think pushing Aussie up in the forwards might be worth the gamble while the risk is changing a defensive line that has worked well.

    We have lads who can step into half back but we need a bit of spark and fire up front and he might be the man to do it. He'd be a handful for any defense and that would free up Maurice, Bennett etc a bit more to pick off medium range points and might give Dunford more freedom to run at goals.
    At present we might just be a bit too predictable in attack but the one thing with Aussie is that he's unpredictable and that's a forwards biggest weapon :cool:


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    I dont know if this is a silly question or not but I wont be home to see the U21 game tomorrow night would anywhere in the city be showing it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    deise_girl wrote: »
    I dont know if this is a silly question or not but I wont be home to see the U21 game tomorrow night would anywhere in the city be showing it?

    Good question... I would nearly just go into any of the bars that show sports, or one of the hotel bars and just ask if there's any chance they might stick it on. A lad I know does this all the time, and unless there's something being actively watched, they are often happy enough to oblige, as long as you've bought a drink.


  • Registered Users Posts: 268 ✭✭Twiceasnice97


    derek mcgrath needs to hold his nerve here.
    the reason waterford lost is because they hit bad wides when tipp were in disarray.
    the waterford system had tipps backs in a mess. padraic maher showed for certain that he cant play as the sweeper as his distribution was cat.

    if waterford had taken the three or four points they should have gotten tipp would almost certainly have been in serious trouble mentally


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    Gavlor wrote: »
    It'll be funny to see the empty seats on the 26th as the bandwagon hits a speed bump!

    I've never seen/heard so many clueless "supporters" at a game as I did yesterday. As somebody else said, they obviously hadn't seen this team play before.

    Munster final is a day out every year for people from all over the country. I saw a huge amount of northern cars there for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭deisedude


    hardybuck wrote: »
    Munster final is a day out every year for people from all over the country. I saw a huge amount of northern cars there for example.

    I heard a group of Tipp lads ask a fella where is the square in Thurles. Nearly died laughing


  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭hurler on de ditch


    paddy13 wrote: »
    I agree with you there i would move Gleeson forward and would want more scores from Stephen Bennett or else I'd start Shane or Patrick Curran.
    Look I would say we all think we will not win an All Ireland this year, what are looking for is continuous improvement which I believe we seen again Sun even though we lost as the opposition was much more tactical and of better quality.
    you will only get more from a forward when you play them as one ,,simple really ,,waiting on those lads for a couple of years now ,just to play them in midfield


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    Gavlor wrote: »
    It'll be funny to see the empty seats on the 26th as the bandwagon hits a speed bump!

    I've never seen/heard so many clueless "supporters" at a game as I did yesterday. As somebody else said, they obviously hadn't seen this team play before.

    Rather then complain about the clueless supporters would ya not just say it was great to see a good crowd there instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    O Riain wrote: »
    Rather then complain about the clueless supporters would ya not just say it was great to see a good crowd there instead?

    It was brilliant to see such a big crowd from Waterford there, pity some of them where so critical and not too supportive.

    Hopefully the same numbers will be there on 26th...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭blue note


    O Riain wrote: »
    Rather then complain about the clueless supporters would ya not just say it was great to see a good crowd there instead?

    I've said it many times - I love seeing the clueless supporters at the games. We were all new to the game at some point and some fella without a clue shouting in the stands might very well be an intelligent hurling fan in a couple of years.

    Now fellas knocking hurlers is a different story altogether. There was a guy near me in the terrace giving out about Maurice at the start of the game. Sure what could he do fighting for ball outnumbered by Tipp men?! It turns out he could still score 3 points from play which was great in a way to shut him up, but it's beside the point really. Lads should be allowed to have bad games and people are entitled to criticise them, but not to get at all nasty about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭blueflame


    deise_girl wrote: »
    I dont know if this is a silly question or not but I wont be home to see the U21 game tomorrow night would anywhere in the city be showing it?

    Would try Nicky O'Regans (Iggy's Father's) in the Mayors Walk between Barrack Street and Ballybricken they have a few tellys and while there is nearly always racing on they normally have one on the GAA, a good pub and normally a grand place to watch a game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭deiseach


    blue note wrote: »
    I've said it many times - I love seeing the clueless supporters at the games. We were all new to the game at some point and some fella without a clue shouting in the stands might very well be an intelligent hurling fan in a couple of years.

    Don't know about that. I've been to over a hundred Waterford matches at various levels over the years and I still feel like I know nothing about it.





    It's just me, isn't it? Darn . . .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Why is the Limerick vs Tipperary u21 semi on Thursday and ours on Wednesday, they could of easily put the 2 on Thursday giving our senior players another days rest

    If we play to our ability 2morrow we will win as this is not a really strong Clare team but they still have class such as Shane o donnell. Our senior players will be hurting since Sunday. Cusack park is also a hard place to beat Clare. Hope it's not a draw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    hardybuck wrote: »
    Munster final is a day out every year for people from all over the country. I saw a huge amount of northern cars there for example.

    A lot to do with it being the weekend of the 12th (holidays for many in North)

    And people used send there teenagers in many cases away for that weekend (sometimes Leinster finals) so not to have them around getting into trouble/riots....this is one of the gaas good points for many in the north



    What time is the u21 starting at


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭skaface


    Anyone get their tickets yet for Dublin game??
    Tried Queallys garage in Dungarvan earlier, but only section 212 ( over in top corner) Crap
    seats available.. Will try again tomorrow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭DE DEISE


    7.30 pm TG4


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭DE DEISE


    skaface wrote: »
    Anyone get their tickets yet for Dublin game??
    Tried Queallys garage in Dungarvan earlier, but only section 212 ( over in top corner) Crap
    seats available.. Will try again tomorrow.


    Got section 118 not too bad around its around the 45 U.S. Line


  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭Deisegodeo


    skaface wrote: »
    Anyone get their tickets yet for Dublin game??
    Tried Queallys garage in Dungarvan earlier, but only section 212 ( over in top corner) Crap
    seats available.. Will try again tomorrow.

    Got my tickets today, in Super Valu in the city. Section 210 which isnt fantastic but i needed to get a good few tickets and got caught for the Munster Final, left it too late and ended up in the terrace, which was good craic but with the double header the seat is more appealing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Deisegodeo wrote: »
    Got my tickets today, in Super Valu in the city. Section 210 which isnt fantastic but i needed to get a good few tickets and got caught for the Munster Final, left it too late and ended up in the terrace, which was good craic but with the double header the seat is more appealing.

    Got 203 row g last night


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Deisegodeo wrote: »
    Got my tickets today, in Super Valu in the city. Section 210 which isnt fantastic but i needed to get a good few tickets and got caught for the Munster Final, left it too late and ended up in the terrace, which was good craic but with the double header the seat is more appealing.

    AFAIK there's minor on at 12 (think its Limerick)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    Clubs will get the best tickets, centra & tickets.ie tend to get the sides of the stands.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Have a feeling both brick and Shane o Sullivan will call it a day at the end of the season. Kevin Moran hopefully has about 3-4 years left


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