Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

archieknox

robopaddy2 wrote: »

Was going to post the same thing myself, from speaking to someone within DLS the other night the response about relegation was 'not going to happen, trust me'. If they lose the relegation final get ready for a whole new can of worms to be cracked open. They already have a team in the Eastern Intermediate and junior championships... Would 2 teams from the same club be allowed compete in the same championship? It could get very interesting indeed. Don't be surprised if both Lismore and DLS are still playing senior again next year.

But what is Lismore's argument going to be if they're relegated? It will end up worse than the Diarmuid Connolly debacle! I totally understand the"Timmy rule" when it came to Clashmore for this year but where do we stop? So would the same apply if lets say it was Cappoquin were relegated? Would that be acceptable because they were expected to be relegated? At the end of the day nothing would surprise me though in this county because obviously there's no smoke without fire as in both clubs must be working behind the scenes.

robopaddy2

archieknox wrote: »

But what is Lismore's argument going to be if they're relegated? It will end up worse than the Diarmuid Connolly debacle! I totally understand the"Timmy rule" when it came to Clashmore for this year but where do we stop? So would the same apply if lets say it was Cappoquin were relegated? Would that be acceptable because they were expected to be relegated? At the end of the day nothing would surprise me though in this county because obviously there's no smoke without fire as in both clubs must be working behind the scenes.

Lismore would be aswell off just accept fate and hope they can bounce straight back up. It would be a blessing in disguise for them imo. Theres a nucleus of a good young team there but with all the politics that goes on amongst the more senior people , a year down intermediate might be just the kick in the arse that club needs. A successful intermediate campaign might get everyone singing from the same hymn sheet again and put a bit of buzz back into the club. But as we saw with Cappoquin last year it dosent always work out that way.

DLS on the other hand have no excuse for being in this position in the first place, they should be ashamed of themselves. If they do lose the relegation playoff I hope they do try to seek a reprieve through the 'Timmy Rule' as it will add to the indignity of a club of their size and team of their ability being in this position in the first place. They would be public enemy no. 1 for sure and it would put the co. board in a perilous position.

The Dickler

robopaddy2 wrote: »

DLS on the other hand have no excuse for being in this position in the first place, they should be ashamed of themselves. If they do lose the relegation playoff I hope they do try to seek a reprieve through the 'Timmy Rule' as it will add to the indignity of a club of their size and team of their ability being in this position in the first place. They would be public enemy no. 1 for sure and it would put the co. board in a perilous position.

Paddy
While the above may very well come to pass, why would you HOPE for such a scenario?

robopaddy2

The Dickler wrote: »

Paddy
While the above may very well come to pass, why would you HOPE for such a scenario?

What can I say I love a good soap opera....

archieknox

robopaddy2 wrote: »

Lismore would be aswell off just accept fate and hope they can bounce straight back up. It would be a blessing in disguise for them imo. Theres a nucleus of a good young team there but with all the politics that goes on amongst the more senior people , a year down intermediate might be just the kick in the arse that club needs. A successful intermediate campaign might get everyone singing from the same hymn sheet again and put a bit of buzz back into the club. But as we saw with Cappoquin last year it dosent always work out that way.

DLS on the other hand have no excuse for being in this position in the first place, they should be ashamed of themselves. If they do lose the relegation playoff I hope they do try to seek a reprieve through the 'Timmy Rule' as it will add to the indignity of a club of their size and team of their ability being in this position in the first place. They would be public enemy no. 1 for sure and it would put the co. board in a perilous position.

Hard not to agree with what you say. Should be interesting that's for sure.

Mountainlad

Nobody is ever going to relegated again ever...come on now lads.

cookey123

it would be a massive u turn as last year the county board wanted a 8-10 team championship, next year it could be 14! If this occurs we will end up in a situation like Tipperary where there was no relegation from senior for years!

The Dickler

robopaddy2 wrote: »

What can I say I love a good soap opera....

Well I don't think you'll be disappointed here.
Though you re fairly giving away the story-line.....no shock/horror element left.

The Dickler

Alf Tupper wrote: »

Nah, not to the likes of yourself who thinks hurling begins and ends with the county team for a few months during the summer.

I'm surprised you're back on here now that the soccer has started on Sky.

Following, supporting and having a bit of knowledge and pride about something and some place, especially your own place, begins with getting off the high stool.


No worries though, Matt Keane will give you the results at the weekend!

My god, the staunchness of you Alfie. I can only aspire.

The Dickler

JesusRef wrote: »

I think the shocks will continue, my winners are

Tallow (Dungarvan after two easy games may be undercooked, real outside bet - but Dungarvans full forward line will be in for a tougher time than they have up to now)
Mt Sion (fighting for their lives the last few months, I think they will be battle hardened, Ballygunnar not as strong as previous years)
FMW
Passage

I'd agree with you except I think a weaker Ballygunner should just have enough in a tough encounter.

crazyman

Ballygunner beat Mt. Sion by 6 points in an awful game of hurling. The amount of wides in the second half must be in 20s. Highlight of the game was a super goal by Billy O'Keeffe in the first half.

hurler on de ditch

The Dickler wrote: »

Well I don't think you'll be disappointed here.
Though you re fairly giving away the story-line.....no shock/horror element left.

just change the story line a bit ,throw in Dessie to non ref it

tomwaterford

crazyman wrote: »

Ballygunner beat Mt. Sion by 6 points in an awful game of hurling. The amount of wides in the second half must be in 20s. Highlight of the game was a super goal by Billy O'Keeffe in the first half.

Any other club matches on today??
I've not gotten the local paper in ages

Mountainlad

tomwaterford wrote: »

Any other club matches on today??
I've not gotten the local paper in ages

Tallow v Dungarvan
Passage v Ballyduff

I threw up the times there a few days ago.

Fourmile beat Roanmore by 5 last night I think, Jamie Barron went off injured after 20 minutes and Liam Lawlor looks like he won't play much part in this championship.

culbaire

Ballyduff 1-12, Passage 1-10. A big shock.

The Fluther Good

And Tallow turn over Dungarvan! Fair play to them and Ballyduff Upper.

archieknox

Mickotallow Congrats my friend. Some amount of humble pie to be eaten tonight. Live by the sword die by it I suppose! No complaints ye fully deserved your win and best of luck in the semi-finals.
I await the slagging posts!! Meanwhile I'm off to lick my wounds!!

Mountainlad

Must say I underestimated Group 1 of the championship, which had made up all 4 semi finalists.

But, if ever there was vindication of the championship structure its been in the past two weekends.

JesusRef

All four semi finalists from the one group, has to be a first?

Fair play to the smaller teams from the west, they have seen off alot of the big boys this year, can one of them see off the biggest of them all before the year is out?

deisedude

Any date announced yet for the semi finals?

culbaire

archieknox wrote: »

Mickotallow Congrats my friend. Some amount of humble pie to be eaten tonight. Live by the sword die by it I suppose! No complaints ye fully deserved your win and best of luck in the semi-finals.
I await the slagging posts!! Meanwhile I'm off to lick my wounds!!

Tallow 3-13 ,Dungarvan 0-18. A huge shock. Just shows the championship is a great leveller.

The Dickler

Looks like the remainder of this championship is going to played out below in Fraher Field to the backing soundtrack of Deliverance.

Alf Tupper

culbaire wrote: »

Tallow 3-13 ,Dungarvan 0-18. A huge shock. Just shows the championship is a great leveller.

You'll never beat real club spirit and pride of place.

That will never be bought!

Congrats to all four semi finalists!

Alf Tupper

The Dickler wrote: »

Looks like the remainder of this championship is going to played out below in Fraher Field to the backing soundtrack of Deliverance.

lol Dickler, squeal like a pig lad and get the map out!!

All jokes aside, the weekend's results have been some vindication for hurling in the far west but can't help thinking that the 'Gunners must be delighted with the results.

MUFC91CS

If Dungarvan can't win a championship with their current policy of poaching players I see no other option than amalgamation at this stage.

But in all seriousness massive well done ballyduff and tallow tonight. Be great if one of the western teams could win it out now.

Mountainlad

deisedude wrote: »

Any date announced yet for the semi finals?

2 weeks from now, exact dates not confirmed.

Deisegodeo

Surprising results tonight, well done to Tallow and Ballyduff.

No reason one of Fourmilewater, Tallow or Ballyduff cant win it out now. They have all won big games this year against fancied opposition and confidence will be high now.

Ballygunner were poor in their quarter final, they dont seem to be hurling well at the moment and look as vulnerable as they have been for a good while. Really missing Paudie Mahony and Wayne Hutchinson as well. The wides Mount Sion in the second half was crazy, if they had taken a fraction of their chances it could well have been a different outcome.

Looks very open now, hard to call. Great to see!

PTH2009

Tallow vs ballyduff upper
Ballygunner vs fourmilewater

Huge money could of been won with favourites dungarvan, passage and roamore going out. Imagine having a Ballygunner/Ballyduff/tallow/fourmilewater and Japan in the rugby accumaltor.

tomwaterford

Ballygunner v fourmile would appear to be favourites to win it??

Be nice to see fourmile win it out though!

robopaddy2

Alf Tupper wrote: »

lol Dickler, squeal like a pig lad and get the map out!!

All jokes aside, the weekend's results have been some vindication for hurling in the far west but can't help thinking that the 'Gunners must be delighted with the results.

Never any vindication needed in the first place. Only one poster on here trying to make out that hurling was dead in the far west but anyone with half a brain knew it was complete nonsense. Is it ballygunbers championship to lose now? Far from it. The way this years championship has gone anything can happen

Mountainlad

PTH2009 wrote: »

Tallow vs ballyduff upper
Ballygunner vs fourmilewater

Huge money could of been won with favourites dungarvan, passage and roamore going out. Imagine having a Ballygunner/Ballyduff/tallow/fourmilewater and Japan in the rugby accumaltor.

Fourmilewater were odds on favourites for the match against Roanmore.

mickotallow

archieknox wrote: »

Mickotallow Congrats my friend. Some amount of humble pie to be eaten tonight. Live by the sword die by it I suppose! No complaints ye fully deserved your win and best of luck in the semi-finals.
I await the slagging posts!! Meanwhile I'm off to lick my wounds!!

Fair dues Archie. Takes a big man to do that. Great championship match. Never over til the end. Gloating isn't my style so I'll just say that Waterford inter-county team may not have benefitted tonight but out senior championship certainly did. Having a championship were any team can beat each other can only be good for Waterford hurling in the long run. Which is what we all want.

mickotallow

The Dickler wrote: »

Looks like the remainder of this championship is going to played out below in Fraher Field to the backing soundtrack of Deliverance.

You should really lose the "ler" from your name.

deise12

MUFC91CS what a ridiculous comment to make!! What players on the Dungarvan panel tonight were from outside the club???? one player Kieran Power who wasn't approached by the club to play it was 100% his own decision and also the fact that he has family connections with Dungarvan! The amount of rubbish on this thread is actually laughable its supposed to be about discussing games etc.. instead its all about getting in digs and slating individuals from other clubs. That's one of our biggest problems in Waterford. How are you supposed to be winning All Irelands and different titles when the minute something goes wrong everybody just wants to look for someone or something to blame!! I wonder from reading this thread over the past few months do half the people on it even go to matches or in fact have any idea about hurling! #GROW UP!!!!

cookey123

It has been stated already but the unpredictability of the championship this year can only be seen as a good thing for the county going forward. More players are getting exposed to a higher standard of hurling but most importantly what was evidenced last night is that there is a desire present within teams to keep going right to the end and never give up which is a vital trait for inter-county.

MUFC91CS

deise12 wrote: »

MUFC91CS what a ridiculous comment to make!! What players on the Dungarvan panel tonight were from outside the club???? one player Kieran Power who wasn't approached by the club to play it was 100% his own decision and also the fact that he has family connections with Dungarvan! The amount of rubbish on this thread is actually laughable its supposed to be about discussing games etc.. instead its all about getting in digs and slating individuals from other clubs. That's one of our biggest problems in Waterford. How are you supposed to be winning All Irelands and different titles when the minute something goes wrong everybody just wants to look for someone or something to blame!! I wonder from reading this thread over the past few months do half the people on it even go to matches or in fact have any idea about hurling! #GROW UP!!!!

haha ah here will you calm down. I was simply making a tongue in cheek comment after what has transpired on this thread over the last couple of weeks. The person it was aimed at knew that there was going to be backlash and alluded to it himself. It was a joke but I would like to extend my wholehearted apologies to the people of Waterford if I'am preventing our county from winning an all Ireland.

Frankly, I really couldn't sh1t where Dungarvan were getting their players from.

deise12

I wasn't aiming the second part of my comment at you personally I meant the thread in general!!

Mountainlad

deise12 wrote: »

MUFC91CS what a ridiculous comment to make!! What players on the Dungarvan panel tonight were from outside the club???? one player Kieran Power who wasn't approached by the club to play it was 100% his own decision and also the fact that he has family connections with Dungarvan! The amount of rubbish on this thread is actually laughable its supposed to be about discussing games etc.. instead its all about getting in digs and slating individuals from other clubs. That's one of our biggest problems in Waterford. How are you supposed to be winning All Irelands and different titles when the minute something goes wrong everybody just wants to look for someone or something to blame!! I wonder from reading this thread over the past few months do half the people on it even go to matches or in fact have any idea about hurling! #GROW UP!!!!

Is Michael Kiely not the same fella that grew up playing for Touraneena? Not accusing Dungarvan of poaching, just think youre wrong in what you said about nobody else being from outside thte club.

deise12

Yep ur right Sorry he's there too!! I think ive only ever posted on this thread once but I read it most days. Just after reading some comments over the last few months about Dungarvan getting players from here there and everywhere its a bit over the top!! Maybe im just being a bit sour after getting beaten last night !!

archieknox

deise12 wrote: »

Yep ur right Sorry he's there too!! I think ive only ever posted on this thread once but I read it most days. Just after reading some comments over the last few months about Dungarvan getting players from here there and everywhere its a bit over the top!! Maybe im just being a bit sour after getting beaten last night !!

I'm sour and soreðŸ˜. I genuinely thought we were doing ok but fair play to Tallow they fought it out to the bitter end. As a Dungarvan man I can have no complaints we will have to regroup and go again next year. With Passage beaten before us last night I thought we had a chance of going all the way but that thought went out the window an hour later!! God knows what way the championship will end up at this stage I certainly won't make anymore predictions!! Il still stick to DLS staying up though!!

JesusRef

archieknox wrote: »

I'm sour and soreðŸ˜. I genuinely thought we were doing ok but fair play to Tallow they fought it out to the bitter end. As a Dungarvan man I can have no complaints we will have to regroup and go again next year. With Passage beaten before us last night I thought we had a chance of going all the way but that thought went out the window an hour later!! God knows what way the championship will end up at this stage I certainly won't make anymore predictions!! Il still stick to DLS staying up though!!

The kiss of death for DLS - they may as well not show up... Lismore will be delighted reading that!

archieknox

JesusRef wrote: »

The kiss of death for DLS - they may as well not show up... Lismore will be delighted reading that!

😂😂 On the law of averages I'll get one right !! With the numbers they're getting for training up there its hard to see them pulling it off.

seananigans

hey, does anyone know what happened to "friends of waterford senior hurlers? " just seen my standing order returned to my account, guess they don't need our money anymore

The Dickler

Looking at the 4 remaining teams I thinks Ballygunner although not firing on all cylinders should have enough to win it.

Maybe when you are finished singing the "Wesht Awake" one of you might have the courage to pick the strongest contender out of the rest or are you all just happy to be there?

The Dickler

mickotallow wrote: »

You should really lose the "ler" from your name.

Aha. I see what you did there Micko, ya mad thing ya.

Mountainlad

The Dickler wrote: »

Looking at the 4 remaining teams I thinks Ballygunner although not firing on all cylinders should have enough to win it.

Maybe when you are finished singing the "Wesht Awake" one of you might have the courage to pick the strongest contender out of the rest or are you all just happy to be there?

The Johns

mickotallow

The Dickler wrote: »

Looking at the 4 remaining teams I thinks Ballygunner although not firing on all cylinders should have enough to win it.

Maybe when you are finished singing the "Wesht Awake" one of you might have the courage to pick the strongest contender out of the rest or are you all just happy to be there?

Ah sure us poor folk up in the wesht are only happy for the day out. We've the ham sandwiches and the flask of tae ready. Maybe we'll form a group team amongst the 3 of us to take on the aristocrats from the east.

The Dickler

mickotallow wrote: »

Ah sure us poor folk up in the wesht are only happy for the day out. We've the ham sandwiches and the flask of tae ready. Maybe we'll form a group team amongst the 3 of us to take on the aristocrats from the east.

Micko
I was actually thinking that myself but I didn't say it because I wouldn't like to offend anyone.

So you don't want to call it yourself then?

mickotallow

The Dickler wrote: »

Micko
I was actually thinking that myself but I didn't say it because I wouldn't like to offend anyone.

So you don't want to call it yourself then?

The difference with us in the west is we have a thing called respect. Are we confident in Tallow? Of course we are. But we don't look beyond the next game. I wouldn't dream of disrespecting Ballyduff by saying that we'll win the county. We'll concentrate on Ballyduff first and worry about the county final after that. But yes I feel any of the 3 teams are capable of beating Ballygunner.

The Dickler

mickotallow wrote: »

The difference with us in the west is we have a thing called respect. Are we confident in Tallow? Of course we are. But we don't look beyond the next game. I wouldn't dream of disrespecting Ballyduff by saying that we'll win the county. We'll concentrate on Ballyduff first and worry about the county final after that. But yes I feel any of the 3 teams are capable of beating Ballygunner.

Micko
Of course any of those 3 teams are capable of beating Ballygunner. Sure I didn't realise until I started reading the posts on here just how useless they are.

SOKs puckouts and distribution alone cost Waterford a Munster title.
Barry Coughlan isn't related to a full back and needs constant minding by DeBurca.
And you have Philip Mahoney at centre back only waiting to be burned for pace.
Sure FMW will drive a truck through that defense.

But why are you scared to call it against yourselves and Ballyduff? The Ballyduff lads wouldn't be afraid to tell you.