Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread VI: End of the MOC [Revenge of the STH]

irishbucsfan

.ak wrote: »

Any idea who scored?

Adam Byrne, Fanning, Farrell x2, Carbery and Charlie Rock as far as I can work out.

ThisRegard

The Leinster Rugby Twitter account is always good for live updates for such games.

molloyjh

.ak wrote: »

1st choice for me right now is:

Kearney
Nacewa
Teo
Reid
Fitzgerald
Sexton
Reddan
Heaslip
SOB
Ruddock
McCarthy
Toner
Ross
Strauss
McGrath

Cronin
Healy
Moore
Denton?
Murphy
McGrath or Boss
Madigan
McFadden or kirchner or Dave Kearney

I'd have Molony over Denton based on his performances so far. It'll be interesting to see what Triggs can bring.

Murphy has a fight on his hands now too given the form of Leavy, but more so VDF. And McGrath simply had to be ahead of Boss now. The 23 shirt is a tough one but as it stands I'd back Dave for it.

awec

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Sounds like the A team aboslutely demolished the Ravens. 37-7 was the last score I heard. Good to see they're not missing Girv too much, Ravens aren't in the best shape but the Hogan/Berne era for the A side gets off to a good start at least.

Team was:

Ulster Ravens are a joke.

The Lost Sheep

awec wrote: »

Ulster Ravens are a joke.

Wouldn't say a joke but the ulster coaching set up clearly have different thoughts on the side than other provinces especially in B&I Cup....

flouncer

awec wrote: »

Ulster Ravens are a joke.

because even connacht eagles can whip them? :-) that said i take your point. they are very poor

awec

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Wouldn't say a joke but the ulster coaching set up clearly have different thoughts on the side than other provinces especially in B&I Cup....

The Ulster coaching setup are a joke too in fairness.

flouncer

awec wrote: »

The Ulster coaching setup are a joke too in fairness.

can you explain why this is so? and maybe this should be moved to the ulster rugby forum?

RobbieRuns

Still a great win for a very young Leinster team. Well done and shows that some great prospects are in the ranks. I like the change in age profiles in Leinster. A good B&I cup run would be expected.

Sangre

molloyjh wrote: »

Murphy has a fight on his hands now too given the form of Leavy, but more so VDF.

VDF has been very impressive to date.

I'm not convinced that Murphy has that extra level that will allow him long term to become a first team Leinster backrower. To be fair to him, he is only 24.

Journeyman_1

Hey guys, whats the view like from near the back in the Grandstand? Row T near the North stand?

CatFromHue

I think Murphy has a bit of a consistent problem in that last seasons he was very good in some games, didn't get MOM against Toulon, but was largely anonymous in others, and then average in the rest.

Clegg

I'd have no problem with Murphy starting at blindside for Leinster. He's a very good player after all. But with everyone fit he drops to the bench as Ruddock is just more powerful. Murphy would start for Ulster and probably Munster too. He's too good a player not to have starting. We're very lucky that Leinster has such a strong pool of talent in that area. We've talked about this before I think, but we really need to be looking into moving players to different provinces for consistent game time. I suppose that gets harder to justify for backrows though as its a position where injuries are frequent. Murphy has gotten lots of time over the last few seasons.

shuffol

.ak wrote: »

1st choice for me right now is:

Kearney
Nacewa
Teo
Reid
Fitzgerald
Sexton
Reddan
Heaslip
SOB
Ruddock
McCarthy
Toner
Ross
Strauss
McGrath

Cronin
Healy
Moore
Denton?
Murphy
McGrath or Boss
Madigan
McFadden or kirchner or Dave Kearney

Surely we can't have a starting Irish wing benching behind a 33 yr old NIQ. Nacewa to wear 23 for me.

WarZ

Clegg wrote: »

I'd have no problem with Murphy starting at blindside for Leinster. He's a very good player after all. But with everyone fit he drops to the bench as Ruddock is just more powerful. Murphy would start for Ulster and probably Munster too. He's too good a player not to have starting. We're very lucky that Leinster has such a strong pool of talent in that area. We've talked about this before I think, but we really need to be looking into moving players to different provinces for consistent game time. I suppose that gets harder to justify for backrows though as its a position where injuries are frequent. Murphy has gotten lots of time over the last few seasons.

Leinster have already lost a highly promising back row to Munster and its a high attrition position. If Leinster have to give away another back row then I suggest sending Dominic Ryan to Munster or Connacht.

aimee1

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/34615714

JJ out for 3 months, will likely miss Leinster's games v Bath

molloyjh

shuffol wrote: »

Surely we can't have a starting Irish wing benching behind a 33 yr old NIQ. Nacewa to wear 23 for me.

If that NIQ player is playing well enough then he absolutely should be starting.

shuffol

molloyjh wrote: »

If that NIQ player is playing well enough then he absolutely should be starting.

Ah I think DK should at least be given an opportunity to make the jersey his own, there should be some consideration of the national side.

Ed The Equalizer

Journeyman_1 wrote: »

Hey guys, whats the view like from near the back in the Grandstand? Row T near the North stand?

Should be fine. You might not see the screen from there though, so the far corner will be a long way away.

Ed The Equalizer

shuffol wrote: »

Ah I think DK should at least be given an opportunity to make the jersey his own, there should be some consideration of the national side.

IMO the provinces give more than enough consideration of the national side.

The Lost Sheep

Tallaght stadium get expanded... would be great to see more pre season games. B&I Cup games etc there

http://www.the42.ie/tallaght-stadium-extension-2406102-Oct2015/

scott1974

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Tallaght stadium get expanded... would be great to see more pre season games. B&I Cup games etc there

http://www.the42.ie/tallaght-stadium-extension-2406102-Oct2015/

A long way back to Kiely's though...:D

molloyjh

shuffol wrote: »

Ah I think DK should at least be given an opportunity to make the jersey his own, there should be some consideration of the national side.

He will get an opportunity. In training.

Of the starting XV that I would class as first choice there are 11 Irish internationals:

McGrath, Strauss, Ross, Toner, Ruddock, SOB, Heaslip, Reddan, Sexton, Fitzgerald, Kearney

And that doesn't factor in McCarthy and Reid who technically are in and around the Irish set-up. Add in the bench of 6 Irish internationals:

Cronin, Healy, Moore, Murphy, Madigan and Dave

...and then throw in Luke McGrath who will certainly be looking to get involved and that's 20 players in the 23 who are up for consideration for the Irish squad. I think Leinster will have earned the right to select Isa over Dave if their respective form warrants it on that basis. It's not like the national side aren't benefiting from Leinster selections as it stands.

CatFromHue

they just love doing building work in that place!

BoardsMember

CatFromHue wrote: »

they just love doing unfinished building work in that place!

FYP

.ak

shuffol wrote: »

Surely we can't have a starting Irish wing benching behind a 33 yr old NIQ. Nacewa to wear 23 for me.

Yeah I considered that also. But then Ireland and Leinster are too different teams. Just cuz dk starts for Ireland doesn't mean he starts for Leinster

scott1974

.ak wrote: »

Yeah I considered that also. But then Ireland and Leinster are too different teams. Just cuz dk starts for Ireland doesn't mean he starts for Leinster

And we still have Zane to come back in..

stephen_n

scott1974 wrote: »

And we still have Zane to come back in..

I can't see him getting near a match day 23 for any big game this season, bar a lot of injuries in our outside backs.

mojesius

Anyone know if the Leinster game is on any channels bar sky sports?

irishbucsfan

mojesius wrote: »

Anyone know if the Leinster game is on any channels bar sky sports?

It's not as far as I'm aware, just on Sky.