Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread VI: End of the MOC [Revenge of the STH]

Flipper22

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Dom Ryan's poor start to the season continues, awful play.

Silly but other than that he's started very well imo

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Even with a shaved head Madigan has managed to get a stupid hair cut.

I retract this statement. It was just the way the light was catching it....

iamjenko

Dom Ryan again...

I'm not one for knee jerk reactions but RYAN OUT

mr. pleasant

seriously. brutal.

bradders90

dominic ryan...

and people are surprised he hasnt got more ireland caps. My god he is barely good enough for leinster let alone ireland

iamjenko

Fairly disjointed, predictable half from Leinster. Hopefully they can shake things up second half

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Match thread.... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057518710

flouncer

There is a shift in the strengths of pro12 teams. Get with the program and show teams respect by fielding a strong team. Otherwise struggle to qualify for champions rugby next year. Your choice.

CatFromHue

bradders90 wrote: »

dominic ryan...

and people are surprised he hasnt got more ireland caps. My god he is barely good enough for leinster let alone ireland

Really? I didn't think anyone thought he should have more Ireland caps.

irishbucsfan

Not a great performance for the same old reasons but it could be a very important result by the time the end of the season swings around. I'm very happy with the result even if I remain unconvinced by certain players.

To get through the first 7 games with 5 wins is a great outcome. Gives us a lot to build on now as we reintegrate the internationals.

James Tracy very good. Dom Ryan needs to be dropped for Leavy or play SOB at 6 with JvDF at 7.

I'd much much prefer Marsh/McGrath to ever having to see Boss/Madigan ever again, but I'm sure it's not the end of it.

Looking ahead to next week there are some interesting calls to make, it'll be interesting to see just how much we're going to reward some strong performances in the opening exchanges of the season.

ktulu123

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Looking ahead to next week there are some interesting calls to make, it'll be interesting to see just how much we're going to reward some strong performances in the opening exchanges of the season.

I'd say (and hope) that from the young lads, Reid, L. McGrath, VDF & Ringrose are involved next week. Especially Reid, his partnership with Te'o has been great

WarZ

I think Dominic Ryan has got to go. There's far better, younger players and he's taken up valuable space.

Reid is 26 so he's not exactly a young lad anymore by the way.

Hagz

I'm totally baffled by the decision not to bring Luke McGrath on. I can only assume it's because he's not going to have any part in the team next week and they're just trying to get Boss to play into some kind of form. Boss looks so laborious these days I'm not sure how much longer he can hold onto the jersey.

.ak

My pick for the wasps game (presuming rk is injured and Teo is fit);

15. Nacewa
14. McFadden
13. Teo
12. Reid
11. Fitzgerald
10. Sexton
09. Reddan
08. Heaslip
07. SOB
06. Ruddock
05. Toner
04. McCarthy
03. Ross
02. Strauss
01. McGrath

16. Dundon
17. Healy
18. Moore
19. Triggs
20. Murphy / Conan
21. McGrath
22. Madigan
23. Kirchner

Redgirl82

For the last 10 mins Sexton was stuck out on wing right beside touch line, he was carrying an injury, he walked straight off after match, any news on that? He did not look happy

WarZ

Hagz wrote: »

I'm totally baffled by the decision not to bring Luke McGrath on. I can only assume it's because he's not going to have any part in the team next week and they're just trying to get Boss to play into some kind of form. Boss looks so laborious these days I'm not sure how much longer he can hold onto the jersey.

I hope you are right but every time I think Boss is finally done he just keeps coming back into the team. He's a good squad player who has served us well but I don't want to see him in the 22 for big games anymore.

The Rape of Lucretia

.ak wrote: »

My pick for the wasps game (presuming rk is injured and Teo is fit);

15. Nacewa
14. McFadden
13. Teo
12. Reid
11. Fitzgerald
10. Sexton
09. Reddan
08. Heaslip
07. SOB
06. Ruddock
05. Toner
04. McCarthy
03. Ross
02. Strauss
01. McGrath

16. Dundon
17. Healy
18. Moore
19. Triggs
20. Murphy / Conan
21. McGrath
22. Madigan
23. Kirchner

Is it not time to go for Madser as a 12 and really get him settled and optimised there ? I wouldnt hold one incident against him that could have cost us the gqame this evening, but is Reid really a better 12 than Mads could be given a continues spell there. (There is no point holding Mads back as backup outhalf now given that his place in the Ireland squad for the 6N window is cemented/nailed-on/cast iron/carved in stone).

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Cullen said after the match that Kearney has a slight tweak in his hamstring and he'll be assessed over the weekend. Didn't see anything about any other injuries.

Interested Observer

So what was the story with Luke McGrath not getting of the bench tonight? Very disappointing really, MOC-esque.

Pudsy33

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Is it not time to go for Madser as a 12 and really get him settled and optimised there ? I wouldnt hold one incident against him that could have cost us the gqame this evening, but is Reid really a better 12 than Mads could be given a continues spell there. (There is no point holding Mads back as backup outhalf now given that his place in the Ireland squad for the 6N window is cemented/nailed-on/cast iron/carved in stone).

I think that ship has sailed to be honest. Madigan is great at what he does, provide solid cover from the bench at 2 positions. His versatility is a blessing and a curse for him. On the other hand Reid has the potential to be a super centre, and he needs to keep playing. Him and Teo are unquestionably our best midfield pairing in my eyes.

Neil3030

Good things don't happen when Ian Madigan is on the field. Yeah I said it.

molloyjh

flouncer wrote: »

There is a shift in the strengths of pro12 teams. Get with the program and show teams respect by fielding a strong team. Otherwise struggle to qualify for champions rugby next year. Your choice.

Sorry what was that!? A reactionary nonsense post delivered prematurely?

scott1974

.ak wrote: »

My pick for the wasps game (presuming rk is injured and Teo is fit);

15. Nacewa
14. McFadden
13. Teo
12. Reid
11. Fitzgerald
10. Sexton
09. Reddan
08. Heaslip
07. SOB
06. Ruddock
05. Toner
04. McCarthy
03. Ross
02. Strauss
01. McGrath

16. Dundon
17. Healy
18. Moore
19. Triggs
20. Murphy / Conan
21. McGrath
22. Madigan
23. Kirchner

Is Dave Kearney injured ?
Any word on T'eo. He was being treated before he went off so looks like an injury but couldn't see what it was.

molloyjh

scott1974 wrote: »

Is Dave Kearney injured ?
Any word on T'eo. He was being treated before he went off so looks like an injury but couldn't see what it was.

It was just cramp from what I saw so not sure why he came off. Hopefully he was just being looked after ahead of next week.

I'd say Teo came off to allow Madigan to stay on with Sexton and take the kicks.

aimee1

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Not a great performance for the same old reasons but it could be a very important result by the time the end of the season swings around. I'm very happy with the result even if I remain unconvinced by certain players.

To get through the first 7 games with 5 wins is a great outcome. Gives us a lot to build on now as we reintegrate the internationals.

James Tracy very good. Dom Ryan needs to be dropped for Leavy or play SOB at 6 with JvDF at 7.

I'd much much prefer Marsh/McGrath to ever having to see Boss/Madigan ever again, but I'm sure it's not the end of it.

Looking ahead to next week there are some interesting calls to make, it'll be interesting to see just how much we're going to reward some strong performances in the opening exchanges of the season.

Tracy was impressive, lineouts much better with a few lost but he had 2-3 turnovers. Looks a really good prospect.

Madigan's inability to read a game had us going backwards in the first half when the odd kick for territory might have been wiser. Boss serving him the ball so slowly meant madigan or the guy receiving a pass from madigan also got a scarlets player at the same time.

Dom Ryan has gone completely out of form and was responsible for the try they got at the start. Was lucky not to be carded as he also collapsed the maul straight after the penalty he gave away for slapping the scarlets player. Jake Ball got carded for collapsing the 40 metre maul leinster had.

I dont think leinster will get out of the euro group but i wouldnt be too bothered about it this season. Think we have a right go at the pro 12 though and would expect a playoff at least to get better seeding next year in europe. Its going to be very competitive but 22 points after 7 games when we had so many players missing is a good place to be.

.ak

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Is it not time to go for Madser as a 12 and really get him settled and optimised there ? I wouldnt hold one incident against him that could have cost us the gqame this evening, but is Reid really a better 12 than Mads could be given a continues spell there. (There is no point holding Mads back as backup outhalf now given that his place in the Ireland squad for the 6N window is cemented/nailed-on/cast iron/carved in stone).

Reid's a better 12, it's that simple. Himself and Teo are a really good unit, no point in messing with that.

errlloyd

.ak wrote: »

Reid's a better 12, it's that simple. Himself and Teo are a really good unit, no point in messing with that.

Yep

awec

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Cullen said after the match that Kearney has a slight tweak in his hamstring and he'll be assessed over the weekend. Didn't see anything about any other injuries.

Kearney was limping as he walked off at the end of the game , be very surprising if he's ok for next week.

irishbucsfan

Madigan really hasn't done that well at 12 whenever I've seen him whereas Reid has picked up a nice bit of momentum and is looking very handy going forward now both in his distribution and his ability to threaten the line. He's also pretty handy hitting rucks offensively even if he had a bad miss yesterday on Cubby Davies (although many have).

The only area I'd rate Madigan higher than Reid would be defense because Madigan has been quite good at that playing 12 in recent times.

Sounds like Rob will be missing. My team would be:

McGrath, Strauss, Moore, McCarthy, Toner, Ruddock, SOB, Heaslip, Reddan, Sexton, DKearney, Reid, Te'o, McFadden, Nacewa;
Cronin, Healy, Ross, Molony, Murphy, McGrath, Marsh, Ringrose