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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread VI: End of the MOC [Revenge of the STH]

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    #7022
    [Deleted User]
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    The Parish King wrote: »
    How did Ringrose get on yesterday? I only saw bits of the game, but from what I did see he wasn't great for their try and relatively quiet otherwise although it was a shame he was shifted from 13.

    Didn't look out of his depth bar that try where he wasn't upto stopping the Scarlet's player. Otherwise was in the right place at the right time a good few times and worked very hard with average amounts of impact on the game.

    Serious rugby head on him though, knows well where the ball is going to be and always looks to get the it away in contact.


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    #7023
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Didn't look out of his depth bar that try where he wasn't upto stopping the Scarlet's player. Otherwise was in the right place at the right time a good few times and worked very hard with average amounts of impact on the game.

    Serious rugby head on him though, knows well where the ball is going to be and always looks to get the it away in contact.

    I thought he was going to score at one point but a Scarlets player just about grabbed his shoulders and pulled him down. Not sure if being a bit heavier would have helped him there... maybe. But as others have pointed out at various times rushing to add muscle can have negative impact too.


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    #7024
    awec
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    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    I thought he was going to score at one point but a Scarlets player just about grabbed his shoulders and pulled him down. Not sure if being a bit heavier would have helped him there... maybe. But as others have pointed out at various times rushing to add muscle can have negative impact too.

    Being heavier would have made no difference. Scarlets player had him well covered, more pace would be more beneficial to more weight in that situation.


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    #7025
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    awec wrote: »
    Being heavier would have made no difference. Scarlets player had him well covered, more pace would be more beneficial to more weight in that situation.

    I don't know, it didn't look like the Scarlets player had that good a grip of him, bit more strength and Ringrose may have been able to shake him off. Granted I only saw it once so I could be wrong. A few inches more pace would definitely have been useful. Again though that's something that can be worked on.


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    #7026
    The Parish King
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    awec wrote: »
    Being heavier would have made no difference. Scarlets player had him well covered, more pace would be more beneficial to more weight in that situation.

    I actually did see that incident and I thought he was unlucky that the ball sat up like that for him. It forced him to check his run slightly, whereas if he had been able to kick ahead I think he would have beaten the defender for pace quite comfortably.


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    #7027
    molloyjh
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    The Parish King wrote: »
    I actually did see that incident and I thought he was unlucky that the ball sat up like that for him. It forced him to check his run slightly, whereas if he had been able to kick ahead I think he would have beaten the defender for pace quite comfortably.

    Exactly. He wasn't at full tilt when he collected the ball whereas the defender was. Wouldn't be too worried about that incident tbh.


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    #7028
    errlloyd
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    It's way easier to run quickly when chasing a player compared to chasing a bouncing ball. When you're chasing a bouncing ball you can't stretch to long strides, or commit to a line. You've just put Ringrose in the least fair of foot races.


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    #7029
    Interested Observer
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    Just getting around to watching the game now. Reid about as effective as a wet noodle in contact for their first try.

    He can be a superb footballer but I think stuff like that is going to keep him out of the team.


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    #7030
    dregin
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    Interested Observer wrote: »
    Just getting around to watching the game now. Reid about as effective as a wet noodle in contact for their first try.

    He can be a superb footballer but I think stuff like that is going to keep him out of the team.
    Is it on a player somewhere? My usual source doesn't have it yet...


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    #7031
    Interested Observer
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    dregin wrote: »
    Is it on a player somewhere? My usual source doesn't have it yet...

    It's on the TG4 website, the full game.


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    #7032
    RedemptionZ
    Registered Users Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭RedemptionZ


    Anyone know where I can find out who's in the sub academy? Or if you're nice enough to save me the time anyone know who is currently in the sub academy?


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    #7033
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    Wasps just had a player red carded. Not sure if he's a regular or not? Cittadini?


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    #7034
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Wasps just had a player red carded. Not sure if he's a regular or not? Cittadini?

    Just joined this season and was at the rwc for Italy. 44 cap Italian international.


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    #7035
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Just joined this season and was at the rwc for Italy. 44 cap Italian international.

    Wikipedia says he has 28 caps for Wasps.


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    #7036
    aimee1
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Just joined this season and was at the rwc for Italy. 44 cap Italian international.

    joined wasps last season, this is his second season


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    #7037
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    aimee1 wrote: »
    joined wasps last season, this is his second season

    Any idea if he's a big loss for them?


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    #7038
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Any idea if he's a big loss for them?

    He's a very good prop, so yes he's a big loss for them.


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    #7039
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    He's a very good prop, so yes he's a big loss for them.

    Good-ish news for Leinster then.


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    #7040
    aimee1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭aimee1


    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Any idea if he's a big loss for them?

    28 games in a season and a bit says he is first choice


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    #7041
    aimee1
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    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Wasps just had a player red carded. Not sure if he's a regular or not? Cittadini?

    http://www.punditarena.com/rugby/adrumm/watch-the-tackle-that-got-david-halaifonua-red-carded/

    two reds in that game, this was the other one


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    #7042
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    This is the Cittadini one...

    https://twitter.com/ultimaterugby/status/663398956852977664


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    #7043
    RichieRich89
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    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    I thought he was going to score at one point but a Scarlets player just about grabbed his shoulders and pulled him down. Not sure if being a bit heavier would have helped him there... maybe. But as others have pointed out at various times rushing to add muscle can have negative impact too.

    I thought at the time that he might have been able to use his left arm to fend the guy off. There was the incident in the Dragons match where he got the ball slapped out of his grasp while running for the line because he hadn't transferred it to his outside arm. One or two things for him to work on...


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    #7044
    Thanos
    Registered Users Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭Thanos


    After the last round of matches in the Pro 12 we see Connacht at the top of the table. I wonder at what point do Leinster (and indeed the other provinces) start to worry about qualifying for Europe next year.

    I am not saying I think they will be top of the table by the end of the season but they could be hanging around that third Irish place...........

    Is it too soon to be concerned?
    They had an easier run then normal with so many players form other teams away at the RWC, and they will a few more games around the 6 nations.

    So at what point do people/Leinster start to get concerned..........?


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    #7045
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Thanos wrote: »
    After the last round of matches in the Pro 12 we see Connacht at the top of the table. I wonder at what point do Leinster (and indeed the other provinces) start to worry about qualifying for Europe next year.

    I am not saying I think they will be top of the table by the end of the season but they could be hanging around that third Irish place...........

    Is it too soon to be concerned?
    They had an easier run then normal with so many players form other teams away at the RWC, and they will a few more games around the 6 nations.

    So at what point do people/Leinster start to get concerned..........?

    irrelevant the rules changed a few seasons ago


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    #7046
    Thanos
    Registered Users Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭Thanos


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    irrelevant the rules changed a few seasons ago

    My bad, did not know that. What is the rule now?

    Found it,
    PRO12: The seven highest-ranked clubs based on their finishing positions in the league. The seven qualifiers must include at least one club from each of Ireland, Italy, Scotland and Wales.


    So actually all 4 could qualify!


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    #7047
    LostArt
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    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Any idea if he's a big loss for them?

    They're very very short at TH now


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    #7048
    rolexeagle1
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    Anyone able to get tickets for the munster game on Ticketmaster this morning? Not working for me


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    #7049
    The Lost Sheep
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    RedemptionZ wrote: »
    Anyone know where I can find out who's in the sub academy? Or if you're nice enough to save me the time anyone know who is currently in the sub academy?
    Its quite hard to find a full list of all who are in any of the sub academies as full list doesn't get published anywhere that often


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    #7050
    Felexicon
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    RichieRich89 wrote:
    I thought at the time that he might have been able to use his left arm to fend the guy off. There was the incident in the Dragons match where he got the ball slapped out of his grasp while running for the line because he hadn't transferred it to his outside arm. One or two things for him to work on...


    If these are the major areas of concern for him I think he'll be OK.

    Alot of people going in to the smallest detail to find faults


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    #7051
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Felexicon wrote: »
    If these are the major areas of concern for him I think he'll be OK.

    Alot of people going in to the smallest detail to find faults

    It's not finding faults, it's being realistic. There are a few small things he can work on, which, given his age, isn't surprising, or an issue. They're all easily fixed things too, as you say, no need for concern. There are players much older and with much more experience than Ringrose who have bigger issues.


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