Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread VI: End of the MOC [Revenge of the STH]

phog

Pretty sure I saw on Twitter that he was registered yesterday or today.

Here's the tweet

Murray Kinsella (@Murray_Kinsella) tweeted at 9:33 am on Wed, Dec 09, 2015:
Confirmation from EPCR that Toulon have re-registered Ma'a Nonu in their Champions Cup squad, with Theo Belan dropping out. #Leinster

Clegg

Nonu and Bastereud in midfield :eek:

former total

molloyjh wrote: »

Is Nonu registered? I didn't think he was.

He was initially registered, then deregistered, which means he can't come back until the knockouts.

By which point Toulon will have been eliminated by Leinster, obvs.

molloyjh

lemansky wrote: »

That's what I thought, but was over on LF there and it seems he was registered today.

Edit: It isn't on the EPC site yet, but that doesn't mean much.

phog wrote: »

Pretty sure I saw on Twitter that he was registered yesterday or today.

Here's the tweet

Murray Kinsella (@Murray_Kinsella) tweeted at 9:33 am on Wed, Dec 09, 2015:
Confirmation from EPCR that Toulon have re-registered Ma'a Nonu in their Champions Cup squad, with Theo Belan dropping out. #Leinster

former total wrote: »

He was initially registered, then deregistered, which means he can't come back until the knockouts.

By which point Toulon will have been eliminated by Leinster, obvs.

So does this mean that he is or isn't available for this weekend?

CatFromHue

3.5 Each club may register up to two additional players during the pool stage, each to replace a player previously registered. If a club registers two additional players, one such player must be a front row player. Additional players must have a three-month contract with the club and must not have played for another club in the tournament. Additional player registrations must be submitted by 12 noon (GMT) on the Tuesday before the match. De-registered players may be re-registered (in place of the relevant additional players) during the pool stage

looks like he's good to play to me anyway

former total

Ahhh, he can replace the guy who initially replaced him, I see.

Well bollocks anyway.

hype101

Nonu v Reid would have me hiding behind my couch.. Is VdF likely to start assuming SOB is out?

ArmchairQB

hype101 wrote: »

Nonu v Reid would have me hiding behind my couch.. Is VdF likely to start assuming SOB is out?

Reid would probably join you behind the couch:) That midfield was heavier than Toulons opponents starting tighthead and loose head props last weekend

molloyjh

CatFromHue wrote: »

looks like he's good to play to me anyway

Well that's just s**t. :mad:

Squidgy Black

Hayden Triggs just undergone surgery on his leg according to his instagram, 5 weeks until he's back apparently.

vienne86

_Tyrrell_ wrote: »

Hayden Triggs just undergone surgery on his leg according to his instagram, 5 weeks until he's back apparently.

Ah FFS. Just as well McCarthy is playing well, but he can't last for ever.

flouncer

Looking at the article on the independent today it would seem its a given with te'o leaving. Having English ancestry he would automatically qualify for the English team while he would on top of that earn a significantly higher salary.

Isn't it funny how often nucifora is mentioned at this time of the year. The article goes on to say that henshaw is the logical replacement. I would suspect that nucifora would be under pressure in his position if henshaw didn't therefore sign for Leinster to maintain the balance.

While former total does say it is henshaws choice, and I agree with this viewpoint, it does make the irfu position difficult.

molloyjh

flouncer wrote: »

Looking at the article on the independent today it would seem its a given with te'o leaving. Having English ancestry he would automatically qualify for the English team while he would on top of that earn a significantly higher salary.

Isn't it funny how often nucifora is mentioned at this time of the year. The article goes on to say that henshaw is the logical replacement. I would suspect that nucifora would be under pressure in his position if henshaw didn't therefore sign for Leinster to maintain the balance.

While former total does say it is henshaws choice, and I agree with this viewpoint, it does make the irfu position difficult.

That's part and parcel of running a professional sport though really. They have to manage these things and sometimes they are handy and sometimes they aren't. If Henshaw decides he wants to stay at Connacht the IRFU aren't going to tell him they won't renew his contract. They'll just need to manage things differently to how they wanted to. There are no shortage of Ulster centres that they could turn to and have talks with. And if nobody is willing to move then they have to allow Leinster to buy in from abroad. Trying to do all of that in a timely manner is going to be tricky, but that's why they get paid the big bucks.

CatFromHue

Doesn't look good for SOB

The flanker is highly unlikely to be involved in either of Leinster's back-to-back Champions Cup ties against Toulon as he tries to get to the bottom of the vestibular impairment that has affected his balance since he suffered a concussion when playing against Wasps last month.

O'Brien met a specialist yesterday in the hope of determining the root of the problem, but even if he's cleared he still has to go through the return to play concussion protocols before taking the field.

CatFromHue

CatFromHue wrote: »

Doesn't look good for SOB

I would say with a fully fit and firing Sean O'Brien we had a slim chance. Without him we're fairly goosed.

Ah 'tis going to be a rough two weeks I think, at least we're having the nice weather.

penybont exile

"I'd love to play international rugby. I'm not sure for who, but I'd love to play it. I want to test myself and I love to play in the biggest games, so that's something that will factor into my decision."

Wouldn't want someone with this attitude anywhere near the Welsh team ......

Zzippy

penybont exile wrote: »

"I'd love to play international rugby. I'm not sure for who, but I'd love to play it. I want to test myself and I love to play in the biggest games, so that's something that will factor into my decision."

Wouldn't want someone with this attitude anywhere near the Welsh team ......

Anscombe? Francis? Jarvis?

flouncer

Let me just suggest that there is no ulster player going to any of the 3 other provinces. We in Connacht had Willie Faloon for a time. That's unusual. First job nucifora may have is to work out that ulster is ulster and then you can choose from the other provinces.

And I am not getting at being ni over roi. There is no player in ulster (pretty much, faloon apart) who would move south as there is no player who would move north. In truth its a disgrace. So irfu is not irfu. It is a 3 and 1 province organisation. As usual this is me typical outlandish statement. Granted havnt used this one before so I kinda think its OK. So up to ye to break my most recent logical argument :-)

irishbucsfan

flouncer wrote: »

Let me just suggest that there is no ulster player going to any of the 3 other provinces. We in Connacht had Willie Faloon for a time. That's unusual. First job nucifora may have is to work out that ulster is ulster and then you can choose from the other provinces.

And I am not getting at being ni over roi. There is no player in ulster (pretty much, faloon apart) who would move south as there is no player who would move north. In truth its a disgrace. So irfu is not irfu. It is a 3 and 1 province organisation. As usual this is me typical outlandish statement. Granted havnt used this one before so I kinda think its OK. So up to ye to break my most recent logical argument :-)

Isaac Boss and Ed O'Donoghue moved from Ulster to Leinster. BJ Botha moved from Ulster to Munster.

Willie Faloon isn't even the only player you got from Ulster. Ian Porter moved to you as well.

awec

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Isaac Boss and Ed O'Donoghue moved from Ulster to Leinster. BJ Botha moved from Ulster to Munster.

Willie Faloon isn't even the only player you got from Ulster. Ian Porter moved to you as well.

None of Boss, O'Donoghue or Botha were from Ulster though. They were all imports.

flouncer

flouncer wrote: »

Let me just suggest that there is no ulster player going to any of the 3 other provinces. We in Connacht had Willie Faloon for a time. That's unusual. First job nucifora may have is to work out that ulster is ulster and then you can choose from the other provinces.

And I am not getting at being ni over roi. There is no player in ulster (pretty much, faloon apart) who would move south as there is no player who would move north. In truth its a disgrace. So irfu is not irfu. It is a 3 and 1 province organisation. As usual this is me typical outlandish statement. Granted havnt used this one before so I kinda think its OK. So up to ye to break my most recent logical argument :-)

irishbucsfan

awec wrote: »

None of Boss, O'Donoghue or Botha were from Ulster though. They were all imports.

Boss and O'Dononghue were both Irish qualified though, so probably the same in the eyes of the IRFU.

RobbieRuns

Nice weather....... Don't you listen to Teresa Mannion?

CatFromHue

Deleted User wrote: »

I would say with a fully fit and firing Sean O'Brien we had a slim chance. Without him we're fairly goosed.

Ah 'tis going to be a rough two weeks I think, at least we're having the nice weather.

I dunno, there's nothing like the fear before a big HEC pool game. it's been gone awhile but is back with a bang

jacothelad

flouncer wrote: »

Let me just suggest that there is no ulster player going to any of the 3 other provinces. We in Connacht had Willie Faloon for a time. That's unusual. First job nucifora may have is to work out that ulster is ulster and then you can choose from the other provinces.

And I am not getting at being ni over roi. There is no player in ulster (pretty much, faloon apart) who would move south as there is no player who would move north. In truth its a disgrace. So irfu is not irfu. It is a 3 and 1 province organisation. As usual this is me typical outlandish statement. Granted havnt used this one before so I kinda think its OK. So up to ye to break my most recent logical argument :-)

Willie faloon.Niall O'Connor. Ian Porter. Findlay Bealham. Thomas Anderson. Graham McComish. I'm pretty certain they all played for Connacht having started at Ulster. Don't blame them, they were only doing their best...:D Sean Dougal ended up at Munster for a while. Boss, O'Donohue at Leinster.

Also Alan O'Connor is in the senior squad and Dave Shanahan, Nick Timoney and Craig Trenier are from Leinster in the Ulster Academy.

So, Just Willie Faloon then....Or maybe not.

RobbieRuns

Niall O'Connor............ Ulster man in Galway for a few memorable years

mogwai81

With all the talk of players changing province at the moment I believe Peter Robb could potentially be a quality addition for Leinster.
He is currently behind a long list of players for the 12 jersey ( Aki, Ronaldson and McSharry ) at Connacht.
With Noel Reid's defensive issue's ( great going forward ) Ian Madigan possibly leaving and Luke being dragged off the wing, I think he faces less competition at Leinster.
Plus I believe himself and Ringrose styles could complement each other in the long term.
Ps I know Dempsey selected Brewer in the academy ahead of him, which wouldn't help his cause. A selection I still disagree with.

former total

mogwai81 wrote: »

With all the talk of players changing province at the moment I believe Peter Robb could potentially be a quality addition for Leinster.
He is currently behind a long list of players for the 12 jersey ( Aki, Ronaldson and McSharry ) at Connacht.
With Noel Reid's defensive issue's ( great going forward ) Ian Madigan possibly leaving and Luke being dragged off the wing, I think he faces less competition at Leinster.
Plus I believe himself and Ringrose styles could complement each other in the long term.
Ps I know Dempsey selected Brewer in the academy ahead of him, which wouldn't help his cause. A selection I still disagree with.

Why? We already have Steve Crosbie, Tom Daly and Brewer waiting for a chance, Reid is still a quality player and we have no idea what Madigan is doing.

No.

Zzippy

mogwai81 wrote: »

With all the talk of players changing province at the moment I believe Peter Robb could potentially be a quality addition for Leinster.
He is currently behind a long list of players for the 12 jersey ( Aki, Ronaldson and McSharry ) at Connacht.
With Noel Reid's defensive issue's ( great going forward ) Ian Madigan possibly leaving and Luke being dragged off the wing, I think he faces less competition at Leinster.
Plus I believe himself and Ringrose styles could complement each other in the long term.
Ps I know Dempsey selected Brewer in the academy ahead of him, which wouldn't help his cause. A selection I still disagree with.

Hands off! :rolleyes:

The Lost Sheep

mogwai81 wrote: »

With all the talk of players changing province at the moment I believe Peter Robb could potentially be a quality addition for Leinster.
He is currently behind a long list of players for the 12 jersey (Aki, Ronaldson and McSharry) at Connacht.
With Noel Reid's defensive issue's (great going forward) Ian Madigan possibly leaving and Luke being dragged off the wing, I think he faces less competition at Leinster.
Plus I believe himself and Ringrose styles could complement each other in the long term.
Ps I know Dempsey selected Brewer in the academy ahead of him, which wouldn't help his cause. A selection I still disagree with.

He wont be signed by Leinster and shouldn't be. If Leinster had wanted to add him to their academy system they would have when he finished school, he wasn't required/wanted enough. He's getting first team game time with Connacht now as well... would he be getting the same in Leinster?