Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread VI: End of the MOC [Revenge of the STH]

Hagz

I'd love to see Robb back at Leinster but only if he was given game-time. Wherever he's going to get senior exposure is where he should be.

vienne86

Hagz wrote: »

I'd love to see Robb back at Leinster but only if he was given game-time. Wherever he's going to get senior exposure is where he should be.

I presume that the whole purpose of moving players between provinces would be to get certain players as much senior team exposure as possible.

mogwai81

former total wrote: »

Why? We already have Steve Crosbie, Tom Daly and Brewer waiting for a chance, Reid is still a quality player and we have no idea what Madigan is doing.

No.

I feel he is a potentially better 12 then the players mentioned. Plus a Madigan/Ringrose centre partnership would be very light by European standards!

RoundBox11

On another topic...

Ive been meaning to ask what's the general opinion on Van Der Flier? I haven't been able to catch many Leinster games this season but from what ive heard he's been very good?

Do people reckon that he'll be out of the 23 when SOB returns? Does be seem more promising than Leavy? Any chance he'll make the 6N squad?

Hagz

RoundBox11 wrote: »

On another topic...

Ive been meaning to ask what's the general opinion on Van Der Flier? I haven't been able to catch many Leinster games this season but from what ive heard he's been very good?

Do people reckon that he'll be out of the 23 when SOB returns? Does be seem more promising than Leavy? Any chance he'll make the 6N squad?

He's been very good this season. A lot of effective tackles and carries and some decent breakdown work as well.

I'd say he's in with a chance of staying in the 23 because Jordi Murphy's form has been shaky. I would personally say Leavy has more promise, but VdF looks to have a better chance of making it, purely because Leavy keeps getting injured. I'd say there's zero chance of him making the 6N squad, unless he starts in the majority of Leinster's remaining games.

Also, I think his last name is pronounced Van der Fleer, but commentators etc keep saying Flyer.

vienne86

Hagz wrote: »

He's been very good this season. A lot of effective tackles and carries and some decent breakdown work as well.

I'd say he's in with a chance of staying in the 23 because Jordi Murphy's form has been shaky. I would personally say Leavy has more promise, but VdF looks to have a better chance of making it, purely because Leavy keeps getting injured. I'd say there's zero chance of him making the 6N squad, unless he starts in the majority of Leinster's remaining games.

Also, I think his last name is pronounced Van der Fleer, but commentators etc keep saying Flyer.

Yes, I agree with this. I think he has been really impressive. He has made some great carries, and for me he's definitely playing better than Murphy at the moment.

mogwai81

I see Tadhg Beirne is starting for Leinster A this week. Did he get a contract extension, I thought he was signed up on a three month contract only?

CatFromHue

VdF is a very busy player, you see him alot on when he plays.

Having the red scrum cap helps here too.

The Lost Sheep

mogwai81 wrote: »

I see Tadhg Beirne is starting for Leinster A this week. Did he get a contract extension, I thought he was signed up on a three month contract only?

I don't it had stated anywhere how long is contract was when it was announced in the summer. It only said he was signing a short term contract. Him playing doesn't mean he's got an extension as we don't know the length of the contract in the first place....

The Pheasant2

Hagz wrote: »

Also, I think his last name is pronounced Van der Fleer, but commentators etc keep saying Flyer.

Yep, Flier - rhymes with Pier.

Commentators driving me mad "Oh he's got a great name for a winger har har har".

mogwai81

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

I don't it had stated anywhere how long is contract was when it was announced in the summer. It only said he was signing a short term contract. Him playing doesn't mean he's got an extension as we don't know the length of the contract in the first place....

Fair enough, had it in my head it was three months!

flouncer

Hagz wrote: »

I'd love to see Robb back at Leinster but only if he was given game-time. Wherever he's going to get senior exposure is where he should be.

Sorry we have Robb and he gets game time.

Hagz

flouncer wrote: »

Sorry we have Robb and he gets game time.

No need to apologise. The post of mine that you quoted actually states that I want to be in an environment where he gets game-time, so I actually want him to stay at Connacht.

crisco10

Just reselected my seats for Munster game in April. my season ticket in the terrace had gotten me a fairly crappy row g of lower deck. Got free upgrade to row a of upper deck behind posts. Really easy system to use.

Tarf1234

mogwai81 wrote: »

Fair enough, had it in my head it was three months!

I think it was 3 months and I think it is up. Tony Ryan is also playing and has not had his contract extended. Happened a good few times last year that players were called up for A's and not contracted to Leinster.

former total

Predicted team for Sunday?

McGrath Strauss Moore
Toner McCarthy
Ruddock Heaslip Murphy
Boss Sexton
Nacewa Fitz Te'o Kearney
Kearney

Bench: Cronin, Healy, Furlong, Denton, JVDF, Reddan, Madigan, McFadden

I'm assuming Luke McGrath and SOB are still out but that R Kearney is properly fit again. Biggest call is at tight-head, Ross has been written off so many times and keeps coming back but sooner or later he's going to run out of road.

It's still a good side, if they've started to gel then it could be OK but a win is basically impossible. A losing BP and a good standard of rugby would be enough for me, at least give us hope for the return leg.

Redgirl82

Healy Strauss Moore
Toner McCarthy
Ruddock Heaslip Murphy
Boss Sexton
Nacewa Fitz Te'o Kearney
Kearney

Bench: Cronin, McGrath, Furlong, Denton, JVDF, Reddan, Madigan, McFadden

I can see them starting Healy because of his experience.......

Apart from that I could only potential see JVDF to come in as Murphy form has been poor and he admitted it himself recently.....

molloyjh

former total wrote: »

Predicted team for Sunday?

McGrath Strauss Moore
Toner McCarthy
Ruddock Heaslip Murphy
Boss Sexton
Nacewa Fitz Te'o Kearney
Kearney

Bench: Cronin, Healy, Furlong, Denton, JVDF, Reddan, Madigan, McFadden

I'm assuming Luke McGrath and SOB are still out but that R Kearney is properly fit again. Biggest call is at tight-head, Ross has been written off so many times and keeps coming back but sooner or later he's going to run out of road.

It's still a good side, if they've started to gel then it could be OK but a win is basically impossible. A losing BP and a good standard of rugby would be enough for me, at least give us hope for the return leg.

I'd say that's about right. McGrath was confirmed as being out earlier in the week. VDF may get in ahead of Jordi given the form of both. Last week should have been a chance for Jordi to prove himself and that it was called off may mean Josh gets in ahead of him, and I'd hope Molony is ahead of Denton but not sure on that one.

former total

VDF starts!

15. Rob Kearney
14. Fergus McFadden
13. Ben Te'o
12. Luke Fitzgerald
11. Isa Nacewa CAPTAIN
10. Johnny Sexton
9. Isaac Boss
1. Cian Healy
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Mike Ross
4. Devin Toner
5. Mike McCarthy
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Josh van der Flier
8. Jamie Heaslip

16. Sean Cronin
17. Jack McGrath
18. Marty Moore
19. Tom Denton
20. Jordi Murphy
21. Eoin Reddan
22. Ian Madigan
23. Dave Kearney

molloyjh

01. Healy
02. Strauss
03. Ross
04. Toner
05. McCarthy
06. Ruddock
07. van der Flier
08. Heaslip

09. Boss
10. Sexton
11. Nacewa
12. Fitzgerald
13. Te'o
14. Nacewa
15. R Kearney

They only have the starting XV up in that stupid video thing...

molloyjh

molloyjh wrote: »

01. Healy
02. Strauss
03. Ross
04. Toner
05. McCarthy
06. Ruddock
07. van der Flier
08. Heaslip

09. Boss
10. Sexton
11. Nacewa
12. Fitzgerald
13. Te'o
14. Nacewa
15. R Kearney

They only have the starting XV up in that stupid video thing...

Knew Boss would start. Good team!

Journeyman_1

That's a good bench, some real impact there.

molloyjh

former total wrote: »

VDF starts!

15. Rob Kearney
14. Fergus McFadden
13. Ben Te'o
12. Luke Fitzgerald
11. Isa Nacewa CAPTAIN
10. Johnny Sexton
9. Isaac Boss
1. Cian Healy
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Mike Ross
4. Devin Toner
5. Mike McCarthy
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Josh van der Flier
8. Jamie Heaslip

16. Sean Cronin
17. Jack McGrath
18. Marty Moore
19. Tom Denton
20. Jordi Murphy
21. Eoin Reddan
22. Ian Madigan
23. Dave Kearney

Healy ahead of McGrath, Denton ahead of Molony, McFadden ahead of D Kearney and Fitzgerald at 12 are all fairly big calls in fairness.Not sure I'd agree with them. I think Dave comes infield and links up with the midfield really well and is that bit more elusive, but Fitz is easily our best winger. His form at 12 hasn't been great, particularly defensively, and for me Mads did a better job there when he started there against Ulster. Still I suppose you don't want both your out-halves on for 60 mins against that Toulon midfield.

Pudsy33

molloyjh wrote: »

01. Healy
02. Strauss
03. Ross
04. Toner
05. McCarthy
06. Ruddock
07. van der Flier
08. Heaslip

09. Boss
10. Sexton
11. Nacewa
12. Fitzgerald
13. Te'o
14. Nacewa
15. R Kearney

They only have the starting XV up in that stupid video thing...

Nacewa is great, but asking him to play both wings is probably a bit much. Leo out.

WarZ

former total wrote: »

VDF starts!

15. Rob Kearney
14. Fergus McFadden
13. Ben Te'o
12. Luke Fitzgerald
11. Isa Nacewa CAPTAIN
10. Johnny Sexton
9. Isaac Boss
1. Cian Healy
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Mike Ross
4. Devin Toner
5. Mike McCarthy
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Josh van der Flier
8. Jamie Heaslip

16. Sean Cronin
17. Jack McGrath
18. Marty Moore
19. Tom Denton
20. Jordi Murphy
21. Eoin Reddan
22. Ian Madigan
23. Dave Kearney

Such a weak team. Ben Teo, Nacewa, Sexton and Heaslip are the only truly class players we have.

Kearney, McFadden, Boss, Healy, Ross, Toner, McCarthy, Ruddock are all either average players, past it or out of form.

molloyjh

Deleted User wrote: »

Knew Boss would start. Good team!

Ah yeah he's definitely the form 9 of the 2 of them. He had to start.

vienne86

Decent team! Delighted Van der Flier gets to start. Hoping for a big performance from Healy.

molloyjh

WarZ wrote: »

Such a weak team. Ben Teo, Nacewa, Sexton and Heaslip are the only truly class players we have.

Kearney, McFadden, Boss, Healy, Ross, Toner, McCarthy, Ruddock are all either average players, past it or out of form.

And slow...... :rolleyes:

errlloyd

Cannot wait to see how vdf gets on.

WarZ

WarZ wrote: »

Such a weak team. Ben Teo, Nacewa, Sexton and Heaslip are the only truly class players we have.

Kearney, McFadden, Boss, Healy, Ross, Toner, McCarthy, Ruddock are all either average players, past it or out of form.

You're right now that I look at it. I was excited to watch this match but instead I think I'll just crawl into a hole and die.