Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread VI: End of the MOC [Revenge of the STH]

Zzippy

He's a very lucky boy, 3 weeks for that is pretty light.

Shefwedfan

Which station is match on this weekend?

aimee1

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Which station is match on this weekend?

sky, bbc wales

freyners

Seen on the 42 that mitigating factors were previously clean disciplinary record and admission of guilt. Fair enough, can accept them.

But good conduct during the hearing is also mentioned. How on earth is that any reason for a reduction

KH25

freyners wrote: »

Seen on the 42 that mitigating factors were previously clean disciplinary record and admission of guilt. Fair enough, can accept them.

But good conduct during the hearing is also mentioned. How on earth is that any reason for a reduction

Can only assume it means he didn't try to make excuses and just held his hands up at the hearing and admitted to it.

Bazzo

freyners wrote: »

Seen on the 42 that mitigating factors were previously clean disciplinary record and admission of guilt. Fair enough, can accept them.

But good conduct during the hearing is also mentioned. How on earth is that any reason for a reduction

Didn't arrive in drunk and call the judicial officer a bollox.

AdamD

15. Rob Kearney
14. Isa Nacewa CAPTAIN
13. Ben Te'o
12. Luke Fitzgerald
11. Dave Kearney
10. Johnny Sexton
9. Luke McGrath
1. Jack McGrath
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. Devin Toner
5. Mike McCarthy
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Sean O'Brien
8. Jamie Heaslip

16. Sean Cronin
17. Peter Dooley
18. Marty Moore
19. Tom Denton
20. Dominic Ryan
21. Eoin Reddan
22. Ian Madigan
23. Noel Reid

Why are we bothering with Teo?

Clegg

Very strong team for Glasgow. Glad we're going full on for the league title.

LostArt

AdamD wrote: »

Why are we bothering with Teo?

because he's pretty good?

CMOTDibbler

AdamD wrote: »

15. Rob Kearney
14. Isa Nacewa CAPTAIN
13. Ben Te'o
12. Luke Fitzgerald
11. Dave Kearney
10. Johnny Sexton
9. Luke McGrath
1. Jack McGrath
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. Devin Toner
5. Mike McCarthy
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Sean O'Brien
8. Jamie Heaslip

16. Sean Cronin
17. Peter Dooley
18. Marty Moore
19. Tom Denton
20. Dominic Ryan
21. Eoin Reddan
22. Ian Madigan
23. Noel Reid

Why are we bothering with Teo?

Because we still need him? We'll be missing players during the 6N, so dropping one of the guys who'll actually be around at that time would seem to be a bit foolish. Putting aside the fact that he's a very useful player.

Quintis

Clegg wrote: »

Very strong team for Glasgow. Glad we're going full on for the league title.

Ospreys maybe???

former total

Didn't think Reid was due back for a while. Strongest available team anyway, thought we might have seen a slightly weaker line-up.

Decent Ospreys team too:

15 Dan Evans
14 Jeff Hassler
13 Jonathan Spratt
12 Owen Watkin
11 Hanno Dirksen
10 Dan Biggar
9 Brendon Leonard
1 Paul James (Capt)
2 Scott Baldwin
3 Aaron Jarvis
4 Lloyd Ashley
5 Rory Thornton
6 James King
7 Sam Underhill
8 Dan Baker

16 Scott Otten
17 Nicky Smith
18 Ma’afu Fia
19 Alun Wyn Jones
20 Justin Tipuric
21 Tom Habberfield
22 Sam Davies
23 Eli Walker

Quint2010

Ringrose??

.ak

Probably one of the best lineups we've named for an away Ospreys game. Should be good!

scott1974

former total wrote: »

Didn't think Reid was due back for a while. Strongest available team anyway, thought we might have seen a slightly weaker line-up.

Decent Ospreys team too:

15 Dan Evans
14 Jeff Hassler
13 Jonathan Spratt
12 Owen Watkin
11 Hanno Dirksen
10 Dan Biggar
9 Brendon Leonard
1 Paul James (Capt)
2 Scott Baldwin
3 Aaron Jarvis
4 Lloyd Ashley
5 Rory Thornton
6 James King
7 Sam Underhill
8 Dan Baker

16 Scott Otten
17 Nicky Smith
18 Ma’afu Fia
19 Alun Wyn Jones
20 Justin Tipuric
21 Tom Habberfield
22 Sam Davies
23 Eli Walker

Arhip, Matevesi and Lydiate all injured and Wyn Jones and Tipuric on the bench.
Could be a good time to end the losing run over there..

AdamD

LostArt wrote: »

because he's pretty good?

We've players like Ringrose and Reid who could use the game time. Think he's pretty over rated on here regardless.

Clegg

Ringrose doesn't need to play every game and Te'o is someone we'll need if we want to win the league this season. Need him to be firing for the 6N period when all the internationals are away.

.ak

AdamD wrote: »

We've players like Ringrose and Reid who could use the game time. Think he's pretty over rated on here regardless.

He's our best back currently maybe bar Fitzgerald, and we didn't sign him to develop him, we signed him to win us silverware.

If anything I hope we get our money's worth for the rest of the season, I hope he plays as much as possible.

We can let Reid/Ringrose play in Europe.

LostArt

AdamD wrote: »

We've players like Ringrose and Reid who could use the game time. Think he's pretty over rated on here regardless.

Ringrose can't play every single week and Reid is adequate at pro12 level but that's about it. Te'o may be leaving but he's still one of our best backs and if we want to win the league we'll use him.

molloyjh

AdamD wrote: »

15. Rob Kearney
14. Isa Nacewa CAPTAIN
13. Ben Te'o
12. Luke Fitzgerald
11. Dave Kearney
10. Johnny Sexton
9. Luke McGrath
1. Jack McGrath
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. Devin Toner
5. Mike McCarthy
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Sean O'Brien
8. Jamie Heaslip

16. Sean Cronin
17. Peter Dooley
18. Marty Moore
19. Tom Denton
20. Dominic Ryan
21. Eoin Reddan
22. Ian Madigan
23. Noel Reid

Why are we bothering with Teo?

Really happy with that line-up. We need to utilise Ben as he's quality, Ringrose and Fitz can't play every game together and Reid has his limits.

There's some really decent rotation going on with some of these selections which is great to see.

Interested Observer

I'm fine with Ringrose not being there because he's getting some really good exposure but it's disappointing to see Ross Moloney left out again for Denton. I think Denton offers so little, I can't believe he's Leinster's third choice lock.

sydthebeat

either Leo has:

1. a much better handle on squad rotation due to less injuries
2. decided to rest our internationals for the rest of the ERC
3. been under 'less pressure' from the IRFU at resting players

... but we seem to have had a lot more senior players available for selection over the last few weeks compared with what MOC had at his disposal.

probably 1. above i think.

stephen_n

Jack McGrath is playing a lot of rugby lately. That's a strong team though, should be an interesting game.

irishbucsfan

sydthebeat wrote: »

either Leo has:

1. a much better handle on squad rotation due to less injuries
2. decided to rest our internationals for the rest of the ERC
3. been under 'less pressure' from the IRFU at resting players

... but we seem to have had a lot more senior players available for selection over the last few weeks compared with what MOC had at his disposal.

probably 1. above i think.

We had a pretty horrific injury list last season, so I'd guess it's 1

awec

sydthebeat wrote: »

either Leo has:

1. a much better handle on squad rotation due to less injuries
2. decided to rest our internationals for the rest of the ERC
3. been under 'less pressure' from the IRFU at resting players

... but we seem to have had a lot more senior players available for selection over the last few weeks compared with what MOC had at his disposal.

probably 1. above i think.

So has every other province, so I reckon it's more likely #3. I am pretty sure Ulster, Munster and Connacht all fielded a first choice side for both Christmas interpros, something that hasn't happened in ages.

I guess the lack of AIs meant the IRFU weren't bothered about players needing the time off.

irishbucsfan

awec wrote: »

So has every other province, so I reckon it's more likely #3. I am pretty sure Ulster, Munster and Connacht all fielded a first choice side for both Christmas interpros, something that hasn't happened in ages.

I guess the lack of AIs meant the IRFU weren't bothered about players needing the time off.

That's true, that was a surprise.

Zzippy

awec wrote: »

So has every other province, so I reckon it's more likely #3. I am pretty sure Ulster, Munster and Connacht all fielded a first choice side for both Christmas interpros, something that hasn't happened in ages.

I guess the lack of AIs meant the IRFU weren't bothered about players needing the time off.

Well Connacht had a horrific injury list that only cleared up over Christmas, so it was the first time in a while they were able to field a full team.

Doesn't the national team usually have a camp over Christmas that players are required for? They only had a 24 hour one this year, maybe the lack of a training camp allowed the provinces to pick those players...

CMOTDibbler

Zzippy wrote: »

Well Connacht had a horrific injury list that only cleared up over Christmas, so it was the first time in a while they were able to field a full team.

Doesn't the national team usually have a camp over Christmas that players are required for? They only had a 24 hour one this year, maybe the lack of a training camp allowed the provinces to pick those players...

That's all there usually is afair.

awec

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

That's all there usually is afair.

I think the usually have a week's training.

sydthebeat

yes, definite last year there was at least weeks training camp which meant the 4 interpro games were shorn of the internationals.