PC Build

up4dabah

I've been looking on hardwareversand and I've come up with this build (I'm now way an expert so tell me if there's anything wrong with it!)

HV20479KDE Intel Core i7-4790K Box, LGA1150 365,99 €
HV1150UKDE ASUS Z97-A, Sockel 1150, ATX 147,90 €
HV30J010DE RAIJINTEK Triton Komplett-Wasserkühlung - 240mm 84,90 €
HV20G844DE 16GB-Kit G.Skill Ares PC3-19200U CL11-13-13-31 134,92 €
HV203FE6DE FRACTAL DESIGN Define R5 Black mit Sichtfenster, ATX, ohne Netzteil 114,99 €
HVR850CXDE Corsair CX Series Modular CX850M, 850W 112,35 €
HV20LC23DE LogiLink USB 2.0 all-in-one Card Reader, für 3,5" Einbauchschacht 4,99 €
HV1040MFDE MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming 4G, 4GB GDDR5 374,99 €
HV13SB37DE Seagate Barracuda 7200 3000GB, SATA 6Gb/s 109,17 €
HV12SE82DE Samsung SSD 850 EVO SATA 6Gb/s 250 GB 111,99 €
HV23CZXVDE Sound Blaster Audigy Fx 5.1 (Bulk) 26,51 €
HV25ASX7DE ASUS PCE-AC56 49,90 €
HVSE8HW6DE OEM Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation 89,90 €
HVZPCDE Rechner - Zusammenbau 29,99 €

Total value: 1.758,49 €



Should I get the stresstest done or just download a program and run it myself? Thanks for having a look.

Digital Solitude

Get windows from reddit for €20 or so. Put money towards a 512gb SSD for 175 if you'd like that, or a second 256gb drive.

All the advice I'm able ti offer

AlmightyCushion

I wouldn't bother with the sound card and if drop the wattage on the PSU. 850W is overkill.

up4dabah

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I wouldn't bother with the sound card and if drop the wattage on the PSU. 850W is overkill.

What if I were to add another gtx 970 down the road. Would 750w do still? Thanks for the help!

up4dabah

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Get windows from reddit for €20 or so. Put money towards a 512gb SSD for 175 if you'd like that, or a second 256gb drive.

All the advice I'm able ti offer

How do I get it from reddit for that price? Are they just selling keys? Sounds a bit dodgy for the price. Thanks.

Digital Solitude

You can run two 970s and an overclocked CPU on a 600W PSU. Google 'extreme PSU calculator' and see what wattage it tells you you need.

They're dev keys that are bought in bulk. They're not the most legit method but you get full tech support from MS

matthew1998

Digital Solitude wrote: »

You can run two 970s and an overclocked CPU on a 600W PSU. Google 'extreme PSU calculator' and see what wattage it tells you you need.

You should only be using around %50 percent of your PSU because that is when its most efficient. You will save money in the long run as well and will have upgrade opportunities in the future!

Digital Solitude

I wasn't telling him ti buy a 600W.

I typed all your stuff in with a bit of an overhead on http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine OP and it came to 587 meaning 600 would run it, as I said, so a 750 may be optimal. I don't know how much stuff you'll be adding so can't give a fair judgement however

matthew1998

Maybe 850w would be the best bet...

Digital Solitude

matthew1998 wrote: »

Maybe 850w would be the best bet...

Why aren't you recommending a 1200W if 50% is optional? 750 is already much more than is needed.

Sound card probably isn't worth it unless your an audiophile or need high quality outputs.

970s are closer to €350 on Amazon.it. If its for gaming, then 8gb is plenty. Crucial Ballistix Sport is 117 for 16gb if you think you need that much.
Could look into ASRock Pro Extreme 3 motherboard for about 115. The one you have has more USB ports but that's the main difference between them

matthew1998

1200w is expensive.... 50% is optimal. This only occurs for bronze PSU's which are good if your building a Mid Range gaming PC (I also have one). The corsair CX850 is a bronze PSU which I believe is a bit "skimpy" for your powerful PC.

I would recommend a Corsair RM850 which I belive is Gold for... *(german accent) MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY... and I will live longer and you could use it on your next build in 5 years time (optional).

The first NOOB mistake people make is "Ohh the PSU won't affect my FPS" and they cheap out! Same story with the motherboard all thought this one seems to be decent!

up4dabah

Thanks for all your replies. I will be ditching the sound card. I wouldn't say I'm on a strict budget here. I just don't want to be getting stuff that is overkill. Obviously I'm here because I need advice and I've been reading conflicting stuff in regards to the PSU. I have no problem getting the 850w if it's not overkill. I definitely won't be getting 1200w anyway

Digital Solitude

No one here is an expert, we're all offering opinions.

An over clocked CPU with loads of ****e added on with 2 970s requires a minimum of 517W according to the calculator. You can gauge from that whether or not its worth shelling out €150 for a PSU, massive overkill IMO. A silver standard is probably good enough, only a >3% difference between silver and gold

Get a Titan if there's no budget

SterlingArcher

What is the pc for.

SterlingArcher

The reason I ask is because if it is just for gaming... I like the one you done up. Like the cpu cooler, case. My only problem with it is.

Mine runs 4K.

Total:
1.701,10 €
Article No. HV20479KDE
Intel Core i7-4790K Box, LGA1150
ready for dispatch

354,74 €

354,74 €
Article No. HV1150UKDE
ASUS Z97-A, Sockel 1150, ATX
ready for dispatch

147,90 €

147,90 €
Article No. HV20MI48DE
8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9
ready for dispatch

58,89 €

58,89 €
Article No. HVR701SBDE
be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 7 700W - bulk -
ready for dispatch

82,89 €

82,89 €
Article No. HV12CZSODE
Crucial SSD 250GB BX100
ready for dispatch (only 1 article)

89,79 €

89,79 €
Article No. HV203HSCDE
Nanoxia Deep Silence DS 3 Dark Black, ohne Netzteil
available

64,89 €

64,89 €
Article No. HV1033IWDE
2 Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 WindForce 3X OC, 4GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, 3x DisplayPort
ready for dispatch

725,98 €

Article No. HV13WMS3DE
WD Desktop Mainstream 3TB Retail (WD Blue)
ready for dispatch from 2015-04-02

103,98 €

103,98 €
Article No. HV30CM35DE
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - Intel/AMD
ready for dispatch

29,49 €

29,49 €
Article No. HV207SX8DE
Samsung SH-224DB schwarz
ready for dispatch from 2015-04-01

12,65 €

12,65 €
Article No. HV25TWMIDE
TP-Link Archer T4U AC1200
ready for dispatch

29,90 €

29,90 €
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amount 1.701,10 € + Shipping costs + 6,99 € = credit amount 1.708,09 €

duridian

@up4dabah

Just wanted to suggest rather than getting ASUS Z97-A mobo and a separate ASUS PCI-E Wifi card that you consider getting ASUS Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac)mobo instead:

http://www.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/165970/ASUS+Z97-PRO%28Wi-Fi+ac%29%2C+Sockel+1150%2C+ATX.article

Built a rig recently myself using this board and an i7 4790K and it is an excellent bit of kit.
You'd only be saving about a fiver money wise, but it would keep your PCI-E slot free, and you would be getting Bluetooth 4.0 into the bargain as well.

Also IMO the type of wired Wifi/Bluetooth antenna that comes with the mobo is more versatile with regards to positioning than the ones which come with the PCI-E card, which would most likely be stuck behind the PC with the case shading some of the signal. But I guess that really matters more depending on your situation. e.g. if your router is in a different part of the house to the PC.

matthew1998

SterlingArcher wrote: »

Your using a 700W PSU? hmmmmm.....Good luck with that!
What wattage does this PC roughly use?

SterlingArcher

matthew1998 wrote: »

Your using a 700W PSU? hmmmmm.....Good luck with that!
What wattage does this PC roughly use?

700 watt silver.

Total for this computer as is, less than 300 watt.

up4dabah

duridian wrote: »

@up4dabah

Just wanted to suggest rather than getting ASUS Z97-A mobo and a separate ASUS PCI-E Wifi card that you consider getting ASUS Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac)mobo instead:



Built a rig recently myself using this board and an i7 4790K and it is an excellent bit of kit.
You'd only be saving about a fiver money wise, but it would keep your PCI-E slot free, and you would be getting Bluetooth 4.0 into the bargain as well.

Also IMO the type of wired Wifi/Bluetooth antenna that comes with the mobo is more versatile with regards to positioning than the ones which come with the PCI-E card, which would most likely be stuck behind the PC with the case shading some of the signal. But I guess that really matters more depending on your situation. e.g. if your router is in a different part of the house to the PC.

Sorry for the late reply I was away for the past few days. Thanks for that. That really helps. At the moment the router is in another room. I'll be moving in a few months, to where I dunno yet.

up4dabah

SterlingArcher wrote: »

What is the pc for.

Thanks for the build you posted and sorry for the late reply. The PC is not just for gaming. Hence the i7. I wont be using a 4k monitor. Actually I have a 42" Sony w705b TV that ill connecting this to. The input lag is the lowest recorded for an HD led TV. 16s I believe. So there will be no problems with it. I've thought about going with a gtx 980 but it doesn't seem to be worth paying twice the price especially when im not using a 4k monitor.

up4dabah

Also I'm not confident enough to put this thing together myself. So ill pay for them to do it. Any horror stories about people buying custom.desktops from these guys? Or am I better off going with someone site like pcspecialist

Digital Solitude

GTX 970 is loads of horsepower if you're not gaming. If it comes to it, you can add another 970 which will blow a single 980 out of the water

I don't know if it's possible for a group of professionals to have several "horror stories" building PC's. It's like even more expensive lego.

Brianconway_

I'd recommend you purchase a CPU Cooler even if you are not going to overclock as the Stock one will not do the job.
If you have no intention in Overclocking i'd go with the cheaper i7-4790 the only difference is that this version is not unlocked for overclocking. Hope the build works out for you!
Brian

up4dabah

Brianconway_ wrote: »

I'd recommend you purchase a CPU Cooler even if you are not going to overclock as the Stock one will not do the job.
If you have no intention in Overclocking i'd go with the cheaper i7-4790 the only difference is that this version is not unlocked for overclocking. Hope the build works out for you!
Brian

I'm getting a cpu cooler. Thanks for the advice!

I've changed the build somewhat.

HV20479KDE Intel Core i7-4790K Box, LGA1150 369,92 €
HV1150UFDE ASUS Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac), Sockel 1150, ATX 192,90 €
HV0701970801DE Sale: Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E 68,52 €
HV20G770DE 16GB-Kit G.Skill TridentX PC3-19200U CL10 151,49 €
HV203FE5DE FRACTAL DESIGN Define R5 Black, ATX, ohne Netzteil 104,90 €
HV20LC23DE LogiLink USB 2.0 all-in-one Card Reader, für 3,5" Einbauchschacht 4,99 €
HVR750CEDE Corsair Enthusiast Series RM750, Modular, 80 Plus Gold 750 Watt 137,79 €
HV1040MFDE MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming 4G, 4GB GDDR5 369,99 €
HV13TD30DE Toshiba DT01ACA Series 3TB, SATA 6Gb/s 96,45 €
HV12CZSODE Crucial SSD 250GB BX100 96,29 €
HV207SX8DE Samsung SH-224DB schwarz 12,08 €
HVZPCDE Rechner - Zusammenbau 29,99 €

Total value: 1.635,31 €

I'm hoping to get Windows 8.1 pro for students for €59.99. I have an old student email that I'm hoping I can access or use my sisters one. I don't trust buying these keys from reddit.

up4dabah

Is it straight forward putting in this cpu cooler yourself as hardwareversand won't do it. The most I've ever done is change a keyboard and dvd drive on a laptop!

SterlingArcher

up4dabah wrote: »

Is it straight forward putting in this cpu cooler yourself as hardwareversand won't do it. The most I've ever done is change a keyboard and dvd drive on a laptop!

YouTube will help you. Type in your specific cooler.

Brianconway_

up4dabah wrote: »

Is it straight forward putting in this cpu cooler yourself as hardwareversand won't do it. The most I've ever done is change a keyboard and dvd drive on a laptop!

It's really easy! Hardest thing is to spread the thermal paste/grease. Some CPU Coolers come with it already applied which can be really helpful! If your still in doubt just do a quick search on YouTube for how to install a lga 1150 cpu cooler!
Brian

Digital Solitude

Crucial ballistic 16gb ram is €118
Be Quiet 750W Power Zone PSU is €114

Just suggestions if you wanted to knock a few bob off. Use geizhals.de discount site for all your parts to knock more off

Digital Solitude

Can get windows from reddit for €20 too http://www.reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap/comments/2zmufy/hwindows_788181_noffice_20102013all_other/

up4dabah

Ok well I put in the bank transfer. Here's what I went with in the end. I held off on the cooler for now as I couldn't decide. Try my hand at overclocking sometime down the road. I decided against getting windows from reddit. Maybe I'm being a bit of a chicken but I dunno it just sounds off to me. Also they only charge €5 now instead of €30 do assemble. Glad i took a bit longer to decide Thanks for the help to all of you. I'll keep ye updated on delivery and when it arrives etc.

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Name: 16GB-Kit G.Skill TridentX PC3-19200U CL10
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Name: ASUS Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac), Sockel 1150, ATX
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Price per unit: 192,90 €

Article number: HVR750CEDE
Name: Corsair Enthusiast Series RM750, Modular, 80 Plus Gold 750 Watt
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Article number: HV12CZSODE
Name: Crucial SSD 250GB BX100
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Name: FRACTAL DESIGN Define R5 Black, ATX, ohne Netzteil
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Name: Intel Core i7-4790K Box, LGA1150
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Price per unit: 359,99 €

Article number: HV20LC23DE
Name: LogiLink USB 2.0 all-in-one Card Reader, für 3,5" Einbauchschacht
Stock balance: ready for dispatch
Price per unit: 4,99 €

Article number: HV1040MFDE
Name: MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming 4G, 4GB GDDR5
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Article number: HVSE8HW6DE
Name: OEM Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation
Stock balance: ready for dispatch
Price per unit: 89,90 €

Article number: HVZPCDE
Name: Rechner - Zusammenbau
Stock balance: ready for dispatch
Price per unit: 5,00 €

Article number: HV207SX8DE
Name: Samsung SH-224DB schwarz
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Price per unit: 12,08 €

Subtotal: 1.527,50 €

Voucher
Rebate: 20,00 €
Rebatevalue: - 20,00 €
Shipping costs by UPS-Standard + 11,99 €


Total: 1.519,49 €

jayo26

up4dabah wrote: »

Ok well I put in the bank transfer. Here's what I went with in the end. I held off on the cooler for now as I couldn't decide. Try my hand at overclocking sometime down the road. I decided against getting windows from reddit. Maybe I'm being a bit of a chicken but I dunno it just sounds off to me. Also they only charge €5 now instead of €30 do assemble. Glad i took a bit longer to decide Thanks for the help to all of you. I'll keep ye updated on delivery and when it arrives etc.

Quantity: 1
Price per unit: 1.527,50 €
Price: 1.527,50 €

Article number: HV20G770DE
Name: 16GB-Kit G.Skill TridentX PC3-19200U CL10
Stock balance: Delivery date unknown
Price per unit: 151,71 €

Article number: HV1150UFDE
Name: ASUS Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac), Sockel 1150, ATX
Stock balance: ready for dispatch
Price per unit: 192,90 €

Article number: HVR750CEDE
Name: Corsair Enthusiast Series RM750, Modular, 80 Plus Gold 750 Watt
Stock balance: ready for dispatch
Price per unit: 140,97 €

Article number: HV12CZSODE
Name: Crucial SSD 250GB BX100
Stock balance: ready for dispatch
Price per unit: 95,07 €

Article number: HV203FE5DE
Name: FRACTAL DESIGN Define R5 Black, ATX, ohne Netzteil
Stock balance: Delivery date unknown
Price per unit: 104,90 €

Article number: HV20479KDE
Name: Intel Core i7-4790K Box, LGA1150
Stock balance: ready for dispatch
Price per unit: 359,99 €

Article number: HV20LC23DE
Name: LogiLink USB 2.0 all-in-one Card Reader, für 3,5" Einbauchschacht
Stock balance: ready for dispatch
Price per unit: 4,99 €

Article number: HV1040MFDE
Name: MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming 4G, 4GB GDDR5
Stock balance: ready for dispatch
Price per unit: 369,99 €

Article number: HVSE8HW6DE
Name: OEM Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation
Stock balance: ready for dispatch
Price per unit: 89,90 €

Article number: HVZPCDE
Name: Rechner - Zusammenbau
Stock balance: ready for dispatch
Price per unit: 5,00 €

Article number: HV207SX8DE
Name: Samsung SH-224DB schwarz
Stock balance: ready for dispatch
Price per unit: 12,08 €

Subtotal: 1.527,50 €

Voucher
Rebate: 20,00 €
Rebatevalue: - 20,00 €
Shipping costs by UPS-Standard + 11,99 €


Total: 1.519,49 €

That's a nice build only thing is they don't seem to have the case in stock so that could hold it up??