Accidentally knocked over a scooter over

daveyjoe

Was going to the shops in the car last night and there was a scooter parked behind me outside my house, I didn't see it and reversed into the back of it. It was only a tap but it was enough to fold up the stand and cause the bike to drop. There's no space for a car there (vehicles are parallel parked) so it's easy not to look properly in the dark and assume it's clear, still felt like an eijit though.

I picked it up and it had a couple of scratches, nothing too bad. I left a note with my phone number because I'm a biker too and also I'm not an asshole.

He just text me with a quote for €310. I guess he's going to get the panels replaced rather than just concealing it.

I'm a bit miffed because it's a resident's-only parking area, he was parking overnight and he's not a resident. He's parked there a few times before and I'm not one to kick up a stink over this sort of thing but given that he was parking directly outside my house when he shouldn't be, I thought he'd appreciate me not being an ass about it and just get it concealed. The scratches aren't that bad.

More of a rant than anything and I realise that if I was more observant then it wouldn't have happened. One question though, is it worth asking if he would consider getting another quote or doing a conceal. Or should I just shut up, pay up and learn my lesson?

surpy

It's your fault. If you don't wait to pay he can claim off your insurance.

RoscommonTom

daveyjoe wrote: »

Was going to the shops in the car last night and there was a scooter parked behind me outside my house, I didn't see it and reversed into the back of it. It was only a tap but it was enough to fold up the stand and cause the bike to drop. There's no space for a car there (vehicles are parallel parked) so it's easy not to look properly in the dark and assume it's clear, still felt like an eijit though.

I picked it up and it had a couple of scratches, nothing too bad. I left a note with my phone number because I'm a biker too and also I'm not an asshole.

He just text me with a quote for €310. I guess he's going to get the panels replaced rather than just concealing it.

I'm a bit miffed because it's a resident's-only parking area, he was parking overnight and he's not a resident. He's parked there a few times before and I'm not one to kick up a stink over this sort of thing but given that he was parking directly outside my house when he shouldn't be, I thought he'd appreciate me not being an ass about it just get it concealed. The scratches aren't that bad.

More of a rant than anything and I realise that if I was more observant then it wouldn't have happened. One question though, is it worth asking if he would consider getting another quote or doing a conceal. Or should I just shut up, pay up and learn my lesson?

If he wasnt allowed park there tell him to **** off,

ratracer

He has your name and number and a note from you admitting liability. You dont really have a choice but pay up. Regardless of where it was parked, legally or not, you did the damage and will have to pay for it. You say you are also a biker, if it was your bike how would you want it repaired? I know I'd be getting a proper job done on it.

Cienciano

If its a new or well kept scooter then fair enough with that quote. If it's a shítbox with scratches all over it then he's being a prick. But you were the one at fault, so he has you here.

RoscommonTom wrote: »

If he wasnt allowed park there tell him to **** off,

It doesn't matter, if you reverse into anything parked, you're at fault.

pixbyjohn

Even a repair would cost at least 300 surely. Sorry to hear but at least it isn't worse.

Rocketthorpe

Tell him you are willing to cover the cost of his scooter but you will get the damage priced yourself, or else price a new panel for the scooter. That way you know he's not taking the piss with the price.

Hotblack Desiato

RoscommonTom wrote: »

If he wasnt allowed park there tell him to **** off,

'They weren't supposed to be there' is never an excuse to drive into someone or their vehicle, even more so when it's not fecking moving.

KwackerJack

You can ask to have a quote yourself. If he refuses just let it go through the insurance! He he refuses the insurance route tell him to piss off

There are a lot of clauses in an insurance policy. Explain to your insurers that the bike was in a private car park and was not listed as being allowed to park there. you never know what might happen, they will try anything not to pay and in this case it will be in your favor if they try to avoid the payout.

Hotblack Desiato

If he didn't have a right to park there, it's a matter for the council (public place) or landlord/management company (private property) to deal with. You can't just say "Naa naa you shouldn't have been there, tough" it's still the OP's responsibility not to collide with his vehicle.

Alkers

As above I'd get an independent quote yourself to verify the figures but doesn't sound too bad to me. There's a lot of plastic on most of those scooters. FYI I had a very similar thing happen my bike and repairs cost over €700. As for the bike not being allowed there - irrelevant, if someone knocked you off while in the bus lane, I still think you'd be looking to claim from them!

daveyjoe

He decided to park in the same spot again tonight, so took a few photos.

It's dark so photos aren't great but I've attached them here, the scratches don't look great with the flash but there's no depth to them, you can barely feel them with your fingers. The left break lever is also a bit scraped but I didn't get a picture of that.

What's the consensus? Is €310 fair enough?

bladespin

Bad luck op but that really doesn't sound too bad
Hit something that's parked (no matter where) and you have liability, the injured party also has the right to choose who repairs though, they may not know much about repairs etc and could be looking at a first quote, talk and offer an alternative and they may go along, it's their choice in the end.

Oryx

Scooter looks in good nick. He is entitled to get it back to the way it was, and I think that price is ok tbh. Cosmetic repairs to bikes aren't cheap.

Alkers

Pretty big panel to be replacing so could easily be that much. Fairly lucky there is no damage to the exhaust etc. Can. You ask him to see the quote he got?

Idleater

Simona1986 wrote: »

Pretty big panel to be replacing so could easily be that much. Fairly lucky there is no damage to the exhaust etc. Can. You ask him to see the quote he got?

Agreed, when someone reversed into my sv and knocked it over (parked in the middle of a normal car parking space at work but that's another story) a clutch lever and two smaller panels cost that.

I would definitely ask to see the itemised quote and maybe follow up with a call.

If I had let my own bike fall over and put those scratches on it I'd leave or paint them maybe, but unfortunately for the op, the biker has a choice to repair.

Max Headroom

Its amazing the replies here...if it was the biker who was posting that someone had knocked over his bike you'd all be up in arms.."screw the bas"ard, make him pay €0000"...."fukcin cager"......:rolleyes:

You did wrong ,pay up mate...could have been a child/wino/Merc....

cerastes

Ask to see the quote, tell him you'll get a quote yourself.
Is the bike parked blocking you? or limit your exit? any pictures or diagrams of the space layout?
If he isnt resident, pay up to what you agree on, tell him not to park there (the space and car park) again either.

surpy

310 for 3 panels properly painted is alright. I doubt it includes new ones.

mfceiling

If he parks there again I'd be fcuking him out of it. Tell him to find a proper parking space or park out on the road.

You might have reversed into him but he's acting the bollocks if he leaves it in the same place..especially if he's only visiting.

Squatman

Max Headroom wrote: »

.."screw the bas"ard, make him pay €0000"...."fukcin cager"......:rolleyes:

Why would you be making him pay nothing?????

Cienciano

Max Headroom wrote: »

Its amazing the replies here...if it was the biker who was posting that someone had knocked over his bike you'd all be up in arms.."screw the bas"ard, make him pay €0000"...."fukcin cager"......:rolleyes:

You did wrong ,pay up mate...could have been a child/wino/Merc....

If it was biker.ie yes, but not here. I cringe when I hear the word "cager"

goodlad

Squatman wrote: »

Why would you be making him pay nothing?????

Awful attempt at being funny or are you actually simple?

jimmycrackcorm

surpy wrote:

It's your fault. If you don't wait to pay he can claim off your insurance.

The insurance claim will have an excess in any case plus either the premium will go up or any future claims will cause it to go up when you could do with keeping it intact.

At this cost it's not worth going through insurance

john kinsella

Don't think it's been said but fair play for leaving your details OP.

KTR1C

john kinsella wrote: »

Don't think it's been said but fair play for leaving your details OP.

Yup, a lot of people would just shrug their shoulders and drive off, sure its "just a scooter".

MrWalsh

Id pay up then Id follow up with the parking authority and have him forced to park in a proper space or not at all.

surpy

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

The insurance claim will have an excess in any case plus either the premium will go up or any future claims will cause it to go up when you could do with keeping it intact.

At this cost it's not worth going through insurance

That was my point

Ken.

Pay him his €310. Check eBay for second hand clamp. If he parks in your drive again clamp him. €310 release fee.

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Im always amazed why some bikers park their bikes like this where cars parallel park. It's asking for trouble!

Fair play for leaving your details though and I would just pay up the €310. Lesson learned.

Blacktie.

Ask for a receipt with quote as proof?