Some Wrestling News & Rumours 2019 Thread ***NO CHAT***

The White Feather

Rjd2 wrote: »

http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/10/wrestlers-sue-wwe-injuries-brutal-brain-damage-lawsuit/

Surely they will be joined by Heidenreich and Psycho Sid in their lawsuit?!

briany

Palo Alto wrote: »

You'd be amazed. A lot of people can gloss over a lot of the early signs of dementia if they are intelligent, especially memory loss. That aspect doesn't surprise me.

(I've spent a month's placement on psychiatry this year and another on palliative care doing medicine)

I know, but accounts of the severity of Benoit's affliction seem to vary, from moderate brain trauma to brain that looked like Swiss cheese. Is it common that dementia sufferers lash out violently? I know they can behave quite erratically, but killings are not something are not something I hear reported. Even when you hear people like Chris Jericho talking about Benoit now, he still talks about it like it was all a total surprise. The only two possible warning signs he even considers are that Chris became a lot quieter after Eddie's death and also that it came to light that Chris & Nancy were having problems. Never heard much talk of any kind of mental 'slippage'. It'll always remain a topic of debate just what factors, in what amount, caused the incident.

leggo

I'm no doctor, but I think another factor worth taking into account is that we've learned so much about brain trauma because of that. So while people may have noticed Benoit was a bit 'dinged up' in general, before this happened and the research from it came to light that wouldn't have been seen as a strange thing. So both statements can be true: people may have seen warning signs but, as they didn't recognise them as warning signs, saw nothing strange in his behaviour.

The White Feather

gerrybbadd wrote: »

I see Paul Bearer's family have his HOF ring up for sale on ebay. Bit of a shi5ty thing to do really
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/569937-paul-bearer-wwe-hall-of-fame-ring-being-sold-ronda-rousey-comments-on-walmart-book-ban

Ebay link: http://m.ebay.com/itm/271833073584?_mwBanner=1

The engraving inside is a bit amateur hour!

Its been taken down now and supposedly not for sale anymore

https://twitter.com/TheParkerBrand/status/586402298525421568

Agent Coulson

From yesterdays Huffington Post Sports Blog.


The Unscripted Side of Professional Wrestling

Critics of professional wrestling organizations often claim that because wrestling is "choreographed," it is completely fake. However, the injuries pro wrestlers sustain are in fact very real and very dangerous -- often leading to these same critics' deafening (albeit, temporary) silence.

Even though pro wrestlers are trained to perform moves in a way that reduces injury, their bodies take on a lot of repetitive impact. Over one's career in the ring, there remains a real risk of paralysis, brain damage, or even death. Concussions and spine injuries are two of the most dangerous health concerns professional wrestlers face each time they land on the mat. Let's take a closer look at these two.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-a-gleiber-md/the-unscripted-side-of-pr_b_7040344.html

rovert

On the Wrestling Observer Show tonight, Meltzer and Alvarez mentioned how Bryan's not doing to well as far as his health condition goes. He's been working 6-man tags during the entire tour, and hasn't wrestled a singles match since the Smackdown taping two weeks ago.

Was easy to see this coming given the style he has worked since his comeback.

SlickRic

rovert wrote: »

Was easy to see this coming given the style he has worked since his comeback.

to be fair, although I'm probably giving WWE too much credit here, it might explain his demotion to the mid-card.

ERG89

rovert wrote: »

Was easy to see this coming given the style he has worked since his comeback.

The pointless and wreckless bumps he took in a Smackdown match with Harper said a lot as did his admittance to refusing to change his style. Tbh wouldn't blame WWE for not pushing him that much

Jon Stark

DB needs to develop a brain if that's true. I'm sure WWE wouldn't be pushing a style on any talent so he needs to cop on. He doesn't have to kill himself to get the crowd to go crazy for him.

Riddle101

Yeah I don't think Bryan is going to change. Especially now when WWE is getting a new wave a great wrestling talent. I mean they debuted Neville, and will most likely debut Finn Balor, Kevin Owens and Hideo Itami. I can see Bryan going all out in his matches when those guys.

rovert

6 months:

https://twitter.com/prowrestlingnet/status/588063278707912704

Really sucks for Jimmy

LeeJM

They should just go all out an throw him into a proper mid card feud like they would have in the attitude era when half a tag team got injured.......f*ck it have him go after Big show after extreme rules. Its not gonna set the world alight but a single Uso run would be different

RollieFingers

KingJamsie

rovert wrote: »

Was easy to see this coming given the style he has worked since his comeback.

Has DB not toned his style down a bit? I recall him recently going to the top rope & I was expected a missls drop kick but he went for a double axe handle

rovert

Just as the main event match for the Smackdown taping was about to take place today in London, six fans, all coming from different directions, hopped the rail and hit the ring.
The first fan, wearing a mask, hit the ring first and when security was distracted by him, the other five hit the ring and began doing spots with each other as WWE stars, including John Cena and Daniel Bryan stood there watching.

WWE security quickly dragged the fans out.

Jaysus

rovert

Just as the main event match for the Smackdown taping was about to take place today in London, six fans, all coming from different directions, hopped the rail and hit the ring.
The first fan, wearing a mask, hit the ring first and when security was distracted by him, the other five hit the ring and began doing spots with each other as WWE stars, including John Cena and Daniel Bryan stood there watching.

WWE security quickly dragged the fans out.

Jaysus

Lithium93_

I know it's not news as such, but i thought i'd bring it up, Chris Jericho had a rant on his podcast recently about Hall Of Fame hecklers, and he does hit the nail on the head.

briany

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I know it's not news as such, but i thought i'd bring it up, Chris Jericho had a rant on his podcast recently about Hall Of Fame hecklers, and he does hit the nail on the head.

It's a consequence of the shouty culture that's come along in wrestling fandom. Smark fans now feel entitled to 'comment' at a show or event and because of mob mentality those comments can be downright moronic.

Omackeral

Video of the New Day Nexus invasion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUdWBzUN-p8

A Primal Nut

rovert wrote: »

Jaysus

Shame it didn't happen live on Raw.

A Primal Nut

ERG89 wrote: »

The pointless and wreckless bumps he took in a Smackdown match with Harper said a lot as did his admittance to refusing to change his style. Tbh wouldn't blame WWE for not pushing him that much

I don't know why everyone's blaming his in-ring style. The main incident I remember was a regular suplex which Harper botched. I don't remember any moves being particularly risky; just regular bumps with bad execution. It's more a consequence of WWE not putting him with guys he can work safely with.

Palo Alto

He needs a Ryback feud!

rovert

https://twitter.com/WrestlingInc/status/588368837873025024

At least Dublin got to see him.

PWInsider.com has not been able to confirm exactly why Bryan was pulled, but when reached for comment, WWE responded with the following statement:

"Daniel Bryan has been pulled from the remainder of the UK tour as a precautionary measure."

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I don't know why everyone's blaming his in-ring style. The main incident I remember was a regular suplex which Harper botched. I don't remember any moves being particularly risky; just regular bumps with bad execution. It's more a consequence of WWE not putting him with guys he can work safely with.

For reference:

rovert

Layla added "host" to her Instagram bio. Fueling the Tough Enough rumours:
https://instagram.com/laylayel/

Mr.Nice Guy

I remember plenty of moves he did that were just insane to do on the back of his long lay-off. I actually hadn't seen that one with Harper. I do remember he took a bump on to the floor which made me gasp. I forget who it was he was working with.

It's almost as if he was pushing himself to see if he could still do his old style.

rovert

Bryan as been so disappointing. Kurt Angle like in terms of "gunning it" in the ring. He used to be the polar opposite in ROH changing up his style constantly and cycling moves in and out of his repertoire.

He got the small package over as an unbreakable, match finishing move!

Machismo Fan

That's the strangest thing about it. Bryan more than most people on WWE's roster is capable of radically adjusting his offense to be less punishing, but suffer little in terms of quality from it. It's weird to see him work that high impact style when he doesn't have to.

Agent Coulson

That's the thing with the WWE wrestlers they have style/move sets and they stick to them we all know what we will get with every single wrestler on the roster match in match when was the last time a wrestler in the WWE shocked us with a change of style to combat an opponent.

Ziggler is one bad bump away from being in the same place as Bryan is now.

briany

Didn't Lance Storm recently talk about the problem of style in wrestling? If everyone wrestles more or less the same way it detracts hugely from the psychological aspect. Having a small, but effective submissions guy vs. a big brawler would open up tons of possibilities and make a match pretty fascinating, increasingly so as the contrast is emphasised. Angle v. Undertaker at No Way Out went in this direction and it's one of the best matches, in WWE at least, of that decade. What's the point of the WWE style, anyway?

"Yeah, let's make all our matches kind of the same. People will love it!"

Agent Coulson

https://twitter.com/OfficialTAZ/status/588456568993251329

hufpc8w3adnk65

Was tazz still on commentary for them?

brianregan09

Be a good guy to bring to work in the performance centre I really enjoyed him on the 1st Tough Enough which I watched recently again on the network

briany

If Bryan is forced to retire for good, I'd vote to have him go out to an almighty psycho beatdown from Sheamus. If Bryan can work some kind of realistic angle to that effect while protecting the neck, that is. I just think that would put Sheamus over the top as a detestable heel fans truly hate. Right now, WWE is running short on those. You pretty much have Stephanie and The Miz as the only two who can really do it. The rest are ones who the fans wish would either go away, or 'cool' heels who are one step away from being a face.

Furious-Red

briany wrote: »

If Bryan is forced to retire for good, I'd vote to have him go out to an almighty psycho beatdown from Sheamus. If Bryan can work some kind of realistic angle to that effect while protecting the neck, that is. I just think that would put Sheamus over the top as a detestable heel fans truly hate. Right now, WWE is running short on those. You pretty much have Stephanie and The Miz as the only two who can really do it. The rest are ones who the fans wish would either go away, or 'cool' heels who are one step away from being a face.

Would'nt put Miz and Steph in the same league at all . Steph is in league ahead of Miz

Tugboats

briany wrote: »

If Bryan is forced to retire for good, I'd vote to have him go out to an almighty psycho beatdown from Sheamus. If Bryan can work some kind of realistic angle to that effect while protecting the neck, that is. I just think that would put Sheamus over the top as a detestable heel fans truly hate. Right now, WWE is running short on those. You pretty much have Stephanie and The Miz as the only two who can really do it. The rest are ones who the fans wish would either go away, or 'cool' heels who are one step away from being a face.

Why because Sheamus is Irish? What a load of nonsense. If Bryan has to retire he should have his last match against Ziggler for the IC Title. He then leaves the ring for the last time with his head held high and not on a stretcher in a work to get Sheamus heat

Loughc

I'd actually rather the stretcher idea over the idea of him having his last match with Ziggler. Ziggler has had so many stop start pushes that him getting the rub would ultimately mean nothing as he'd be back jobbing the next week on Main Event.

Tugboats

Loughc wrote: »

I'd actually rather the stretcher idea over the idea of him having his last match with Ziggler. Ziggler has had so many stop start pushes that him getting the rub would ultimately mean nothing as he'd be back jobbing the next week on Main Event.

They would have a great match. Bryan is the most over guy in God knows how long and having his send off against Sheamus is nothing short of disgraceful. If the rumours were to be believed didn't Bryan refuse a feud with Sheamus?

martyos121

Putting Ziggler over is not the way for Bryan to go out. If he's going to retire due to injury, he's not going to be wrestling any more matches for obvious reasons. I quite like the idea of Sheamus ending his career (as long as they can do it safely) or perhaps a debuting Kevin Owens, but that's another conversation altogether. Highly doubt he'll be retiring anytime soon anyways, he might need another surgery though, for all the good the last one did him.

Tugboats

martyos121 wrote: »

Putting Ziggler over is a bad way for Bryan to go out. If he's going to retire due to injury, he's not going to be wrestling any more matches. I quite like the idea of Sheamus ending his career (as long as they can do it safely) or perhaps a debuting Kevin Owens, but that's another conversation altogether. Highly doubt he'll be retiring anytime soon anyways, he might need another surgery though, for all the good the last one did him.

jesus man its not always about putting people over and works. If the guys career is getting cut short let him have a decent match and walk out of the ring. Its 2015 he doesnt need to written out of the storyline

martyos121

Tugboats wrote: »

jesus man its not always about putting people over and works. If the guys career is getting cut short let him have a decent match and walk out of the ring. Its 2015 he doesnt need to written out of the storyline

Point out the exact part of my post where I explicitly stated such a thing. I merely agreed with briany's idea and threw in one of my own along with it. If he's retiring due to injury, then it's obviously a serious issue with his health where he can't go on wrestling. Why on earth would the doctor clear him for another match if that was the case? He's not the type of lad that would retire unless he was told he had to. As I said, it's highly unlikely he's going to retire anyways, it's just speculation at this stage due to him being pulled from a few matches.

Tugboats

martyos121 wrote: »

Point out the exact part of my post where I explicitly stated such a thing. I merely agreed with briany's idea and threw in one of my own along with it. If he's retiring due to injury, then it's obviously a serious issue with his health where he can't go on wrestling. Why on earth would the doctor clear him for another match if that was the case? He's not the type of lad that would retire unless he was told he had to. As I said, it's highly unlikely he's going to retire anyways, it's just speculation at this stage due to him being pulled from a few matches.

you like the idea of Sheamus "ending" his career thats a work

thebostoncrab

To be honest, fans are too smart to the business today. If a beat down angle was done by anyone, be it Sheamus or Kevin Owens, fans would simply view it as "writing off Bryan". It wouldn't carry the weight of "That guy killed Bryan's career! What a dick!" because fans understand why it is being done. They won't get the heat the angle deserves, plain and simple.

The best option if Bryan is forced to retire, is to have him come out, make a passionate speach and ask for his retirement match against someone he loves to wrestle. If anything, it's the perfect chance to debut someone from NXT like Sami Zayn or Finn Bálor or Hideo Itami. Bryan could hype his matches with Hideo from the indies and want his last match to be a showcase of this, or how he loved wrestling Sami, or say he wants the chance to wrestle the man who will replace him as the best wrestler in the world in Bálor. Now you have Bryan getting an emotional and deserved send off, the fans are treated with respect and you put over a debuting talent.

montyrebel

if he has to retire storylines > real life


Have someone beat him till there is nothing left and wheel him out, but just dont show up again, no stories about him retiring due to health, no stories about his comeback as there wont be one, just disappears

Tugboats

montyrebel wrote: »

if he has to retire storylines > real life


Have someone beat him till there is nothing left and wheel him out, but just dont show up again, no stories about him retiring due to health, no stories about his comeback as there wont be one, just disappears

its 2015

Palo Alto

Machismo Fan wrote: »

That's the strangest thing about it. Bryan more than most people on WWE's roster is capable of radically adjusting his offense to be less punishing, but suffer little in terms of quality from it. It's weird to see him work that high impact style when he doesn't have to.

Maybe he has insurance with Lloyds of London.

Agent Coulson

Maybe he will the new co-host trainer of Tough Enough along side Taz.

If he has to retire maybe he could become the new head trainer at NXT.

A Primal Nut

Palo Alto wrote: »

Maybe he has insurance with Lloyds of London.

They stopped selling that when almost every wrestler who bought the insurance ended up making a claim; while some of them even returned to wrestling even though the whole idea of the payout was that they would be unable to wrestle again.

beakerjoe

A Primal Nut wrote: »

They stopped selling that when almost every wrestler who bought the insurance ended up making a claim; while some of them even returned to wrestling even though the whole idea of the payout was that they would be unable to wrestle again.

Rick Rude springs to mind.

rovert

A Primal Nut

Best squash match ever!