Stabbing incident at Milltown LUAS station

bnt

If you've been to the Milltown area of South Dublin, you'll know it's quite nice: one of the posher parts, on the Dodder where the SUVs roam wild, the grass is always green, and the property prices start at "unaffordable". It's on the LUAS Green line, which is the envy of commuters on the Red Line. Except that earlier this evening, security guards on a tram spotted three men fighting on the platform and got off to stop the fight.

Turns out it wasn't just a fight: two of the men were stabbing the third, and when the guards intervened, they got stabbed and pepper-sprayed too, but managed to subdue the attackers. I walked past there an hour ago, and it was sealed off with CSIs doing their thing. It's a truly bizarre incident in all respects - the place, the day, and the circumstances. Has anyone heard anything more than is being reported in the papers?

Gatling

Redline cretins must have got lost and ended on the peaceful green line.

Hope nobody is seriouly hurt especially the Garda

Birneybau

Gatling wrote: »

Redline cretins must have got lost and ended on the peaceful green line.

Hope nobody is seriouly hurt especially the Garda

For real?

Firewalkwithme

I read about gangs of "yoofs" who were grabbing bags as the doors were closing / opening at that stop. The driver led all the passengers out the front door I think. I read it on boards somewhere... see if you can find it

Guy:Incognito

Are they employing children to write articles now? Someone needs to proof read stuff before it goes up.

Gyalist

My son was threatened with a knife and had his phone stolen at Cowper Rd. stop.

bnt

Gatling wrote: »

Redline cretins must have got lost and ended on the peaceful green line.

Hope nobody is seriouly hurt especially the Garda

Garda arrived to mop up, but it was two STT security guards who intervened. If they're anything like the guys I've seen before - huge Polish rugby players - the attackers are lucky they weren't stomped flat.

Gatling

From RTE

Three people, including a security guard, have been injured in a stabbing incident following a row in south Dublin.

It is understood an altercation between three men, aged in their 20s and 30s, was reported at Milltown on the Luas Green Line at around 8pm.

Two of the men, and a security guard who intervened, were stabbed.

Two men were arrested at the scene.

None of the victims' injuries are believed to be life threatening but gardaí said the situation could have been a lot more serious had the security guard not intervened.

The Luas stop was closed for a time for a forensic examination

triple nipple

Wow shocking ! and now that it's happend on the green line i bet it wont be long before we see gaurds on trams ! green ones anyway ! The security gaurds are hereos !

the groutch

just wait til they've connected the Red & Green lines

Simon2015

triple nipple wrote: »

Wow shocking ! and now that it's happend on the green line i bet it wont be long before we see gaurds on trams ! green ones anyway ! The security gaurds are hereos !

If it happened on the red line it probably woundn't even make it into the headlines.

LadyAthame

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Are they employing children to write articles now? Someone needs to proof read stuff before it goes up.

Thank you!

Macavity.

You wouldn't get that on your way to Tallaght, I tell you. I never feel safe on the green line. I always can't wait to be back on the red line with my own kind. :pac:

LadyAthame

Macavity. wrote: »

You wouldn't get that on your way to Tallaght, I tell you. I never feel safe on the green line. I always can't wait to be back on the red line with my own kind. :pac:

Miltown, Raneleigh and Rathmines are ....odd areas.

jungleman

When I read these stories I just feel disgust in the pit of my stomach. Pure and utter scumbags. Anyone who is found carrying a concealed knife should have a fixed term sentence.

RedemptionZ

There's always been a bit of an exaggeration about the green line on boards, it's doesn't just go by mansions the whole way, plenty of the stops have nearby council estates, bound to be a few scum around(though the majority from these areas are lovely). I've seen a few assaults in Balally stop and Ballyogan Wood. Not to say it's anywhere near as bad as the red line, which needs to be policed.

Streetwalker

OMG loike

Simon2015

jungleman wrote: »

Anyone who is found carrying a concealed knife should have a fixed term sentence.

There could be any number of reasons why someone would carry a knife but is far from a Scumbag.

Streetwalker

RedemptionZ wrote: »

There's always been a bit of an exaggeration about the green line on boards, it's doesn't just go by mansions the whole way, plenty of the stops have nearby council estates, bound to be a few scum around(though the majority from these areas are lovely). I've seen a few assaults in Balally stop and Ballyogan Wood. Not to say it's anywhere near as bad as the red line, which needs to be policed.

Lol. I suppose no "scum" live in mansions either

neckedit

Simon2015 wrote:

There could be any number of reasons why someone would carry a knife but is far from a Scumbag.

Why would you carry a knife? give me any number reasons please.

LadyAthame

Streetwalker wrote: »

Lol. I suppose no "scum" live in mansions either

It's a very wealthy area. I used to go to college there. But it's odd very strange characters.

the evasion_kid

neckedit wrote: »

Why would you carry a knife? give me any number reasons please.

Peeling an apple ?!?

jungleman

Simon2015 wrote: »

There could be any number of reasons why someone would carry a knife but is far from a Scumbag.

Apart from a workman who carries a knife on his belt as part of a kit, I don't see the need for it really. If someone is walking around with a kitchen knife concealed in a sock however, I would hazard a guess that they are a scumbag.

Simon2015

neckedit wrote: »

Why would you carry a knife? give me any number reasons please.

I've carried one when I was going camping.

neckedit

the evasion_kid wrote:

Peeling an apple ?!?

Brilliant.....thanks....

pconn062

Simon2015 wrote: »

I've carried one when I was going camping.

Do you camp much on the Luas?

CountingCrows

neckedit wrote: »

Why would you carry a knife? give me any number reasons please.

Doesn't the green line have a dining car? Probably took it by mistake after his truffle

neckedit

Simon2015 wrote:

I've carried one when I was going camping.

Right....far from Many Reasons.....

stunmer

neckedit wrote: »

Why would you carry a knife? give me any number reasons please.

My job requires me to have a knife. People who camp, sailors, scouts all may be carrying knives.

ABC101

pconn062 wrote: »

Do you camp much on the Luas?

I could not keep up de repayments, bank repossessed de house!

Dyr

Still, least they have security on the luas, if it happened on a dublin bus the driver would have just kept going

Nalz

I leave five mins from the stop, a little shocked this has happened tbh... The article in the indo = glorified tabloid rag

ABC101

While serious for you or I, in the eyes of the law it is a bit of a non event, the culprits will just give the old sob story of how they had a rough / disavantaged childhood and how they did not get the same chances as others .... And voila...they will be off with a caution!

bnt

The news reports are thin on detail, sure - that's why I was wondering if there was more info out there.

They don't have security on the Green Line all the time, just when they think they need it. I didn't think Easter Sunday evening would be one of those times, which shows you what I know.

neckedit

stunmer wrote:

My job requires me to have a knife. People who camp, sailors, scouts all may be carrying knives.

does your job require you to travel on the Luaa with your tools.....Scouts, Sailors. ...really kinda clutching at straws here. .....Any way the point is there are a lotta scumbags carrying knives....not for work or any other outdoor pursuits, but for intimidation and actually harming people.

RedemptionZ

Streetwalker wrote: »

Lol. I suppose no "scum" live in mansions either

Stop looking to get offended, you know what I meant. Scum from upper class backgrounds don't normally go around the stabbing people, doesn't mean they're not scum(ie. a lot of bankers from the recession who owe the country millions).

nc19

bnt wrote:

If you've been to the Milltown area of South Dublin, you'll know it's quite nice: one of the posher parts, o

columbanus and Rosemount 5 mins walk away. there's scum everywhere

/thread

Guy:Incognito

LadyAthame wrote: »

Thank you!

No bother pet.

Joe prim

Simon2015 wrote: »

There could be any number of reasons why someone would carry a knife but is far from a Scumbag.

I always carry a knife (accompanied by a fork) when travelling on the Southside in case i encounter one of these "pop-up" restaurants described in the irish times weekend supplement, and I can assure you that I am no scumbag, far from it, my good man....

KD345

Simon2015 wrote: »

If it happened on the red line it probably woundn't even make it into the headlines.

Last month: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/tallaght-luas-red-line-stop-closed-after-two-males-assaulted-1.2143224

Anti social behaviour is city wide.

moc moc a moc

Streetwalker wrote: »

Lol. I suppose no "scum" live in mansions either

Plenty of scum in the Fatima Mansions.

stunmer

neckedit wrote: »

does your job require you to travel on the Luaa with your tools.....Scouts, Sailors. ...really kinda clutching at straws here. .....Any way the point is there are a lotta scumbags carrying knives....not for work or any other outdoor pursuits, but for intimidation and actually harming people.

Yup, I have had jobs where it is easier to travel on the Luas / bus than drive especially during rush hour. Also there is 53 degrees North in Carrickmines on the luas line which sell knives for adventure sports. There is a good DIY shop 2 minutes from Charlemount which sell knives also. Not at all clutching at straws. You asked for any number of reasons why someone would have a knife on the luas and I gave you many reasons.

It is difficult because many scumbags may carry knives but there will be people legitimately carrying knives also. An outright ban is not the solution.

jungleman

Just hearing reports that one of the assailants was a scout, the other a sailor. They were both about to go camping on the Luas.

stunmer

jungleman wrote: »

Just hearing reports that one of the assailants was a scout, the other a sailor. They were both about to go camping on the Luas.

Hey, I'm just pointing out that your suggestion below is ridiculous.

jungleman wrote: »

Anyone who is found carrying a concealed knife should have a fixed term sentence.

jungleman

stunmer wrote: »

Hey, I'm just pointing out that your suggestion below is ridiculous.

Thanks. For. That.

AndonHandon

Unconfirmed that the perpetrators were homeless or from the travelling community.

You send a LUAS out to Balally; you must deal with the consequences.

KD345

Simon2015 wrote: »

There could be any number of reasons why someone would carry a knife but is far from a Scumbag.

These guys attacked the Luas security with a knife and pepper spray. I think calling them scum is acceptable.

Streetwalker

nc19 wrote: »

columbanus and Rosemount 5 mins walk away. there's scum everywhere

/thread

Wft is that supposed to mean?

UCDVet

Streetwalker wrote: »

Lol. I suppose no "scum" live in mansions either

Oh plenty of scum live in mansions. But you won't need to worry about them stabbing you with a knife if you don't hand over your phone.

listermint

Axton Ripe Kitten wrote: »

They are not actually allowed touch people. The do look rather KGB though.

Being regulated security staff they are entitled to eject people or restrain.much the same as nightclub staff but sure whatever you are having yourself.

kylith

moc moc a moc wrote: »

Plenty of scum in the Fatima Mansions.

Not any more there's not. The Mansions are long gone.

The scum roam the streets these days.