OpenSparkz - already dead in the water?

yop · 19-06-2015 8:44am

TruthEnforcer wrote: »

Firstly 'Yob' .. I don't know where your getting your 65% increase from .. a difference between 700,000 and 1,000,000 is 300,000 which works out at about a 43% increase !

It could well see an increase of 43% within 2 to 3 years ... which isn't necessarily a reflection of how 'property values in Mayo' will go per say ... but a reflection on this particular 'property deal' which I understand has seriously undervalued the property in the first place !

The main mover and shaker' on this 'deal / proposal' came about supposedly between a chance meeting by 'Cyril Burke' (Mayo FG Co. Councillor and brother of Sen Paddy Burke), and the main people behind Opensparkz (which is only in existence as a Limited Co. since February of this year). This is the same Cyril Burke who is also a Director of Western Premier Properties (estate Agents in Castlebar). It was he who initially proposed for Mayo County Council to buy it in the first place .. when all along he seems to have been in discussion with Opensparkz directors ??? .. so why didn't they (Opensparkz) buy it themselves at an even lower price ??

Mayo Co. Co. took the bait and bought it for 610,000 and then arranged to sell it on for 700,000 to Opensparkz, with the 'buy back clause' inserted ! In my opinion this is all a bit Odd !

I'll take it that Yob was a typo.
You were the one to state "Mayo County Council and its Rate Payers will have been 'turned over' for almost 400,000 ", so thats where the % comes from.

Its all speculation on what it is worth, true value and what people think are 2 different things. So I think more likely a 10% increase in more realistic based on the property growth in the county in the last 5 years.

TruthEnforcer · 18-07-2015 12:18am

yop wrote: »

I'll take it that Yob was a typo.
You were the one to state "Mayo County Council and its Rate Payers will have been 'turned over' for almost 400,000 ", so thats where the % comes from.

Its all speculation on what it is worth, true value and what people think are 2 different things. So I think more likely a 10% increase in more realistic based on the property growth in the county in the last 5 years.

Hi there 'Yop' .. yes indeed .. it was a typo .. apologies ..

I was trying to get across the difference on what Mayo Co Co paid (610,000) versus what Opensparkz have supposedly paid (700,000) ... and what I suspect the premises could be worth in a couple of years, and why did Mayo County Council have to get involved in the 'purchase' in the first place ? when there seemed to be a perfectly good 'buyer' in Opensparkz before MCC got involved.

**Don't post anything like that again please. Won't be warned again **

Westernyelp · 20-07-2015 8:59pm

Seen a buck doing a bit of strimming along the road there they other day. The hundreds of jobs should be rolling in any minute now.

irishgeo · 21-07-2015 8:37am

Westernyelp wrote: »

Seen a buck doing a bit of strimming along the road there they other day. The hundreds of jobs should be rolling in any minute now.

Just like the huge employment northgate have brought.

Westernyelp · 21-07-2015 8:30pm

irishgeo wrote: »

Just like the huge employment northgate have brought.

We'll have to build more houses

TruthEnforcer · 26-07-2015 9:37pm

**Don't post anything like that again please. Won't be warned again **[/QUOTE]

What may I ask does ths 'Warning' mean or refer to ? If it was me making a typing error in his / her 'user name' .. it was a genuine 'typo error' .. nothing else .. so in my view this 'Warning' is a bit 'OTT' ?

yop · 26-07-2015 10:46pm

TruthEnforcer wrote: »

**Don't post anything like that again please. Won't be warned again **

What may I ask does ths 'Warning' mean or refer to ? If it was me making a typing error in his / her 'user name' .. it was a genuine 'typo error' .. nothing else .. so in my view this 'Warning' is a bit 'OTT' ?[/QUOTE]

It wasn't about a username, it implied corruption, warning wasn't OTT, in fact it was light handed.

TruthEnforcer · 27-07-2015 9:33pm

It wasn't about a username, it implied corruption, warning wasn't OTT, in fact it was light handed. [/QUOTE]

To state the facts as they are presented by the parties themselves .. and question the 'Value' or otherwise of any deal .. is hardly an accusation of 'Corruption .. 'Implied' or otherwise.

It hard to understand the sequence of events that was given to the media on how the whole project came about and then the decision to locate such a project in Castlebar is justifiably questionable in itself !

Serjeant Buzfuz · 27-07-2015 11:59pm

To say it's already dead in the water would be to imply that it ever started...

Westernyelp · 04-09-2015 4:09pm

Opensparx Opensparx where for art thou Opensparx?

Serjeant Buzfuz · 14-09-2015 8:37pm

Serjeant Buzfuz wrote: »

To say it's already dead in the water would be to imply that it ever started...

No more news?

irishgeo · 14-09-2015 9:55pm

Serjeant Buzfuz wrote: »

No more news?

the council meeting was today so maybe something might come out this week if the matter was raised.

The agenda states mayo co co cant vary the LPT therefore so we wont be getting a LPT reduction for 2016.

Westernyelp · 24-11-2015 11:55pm

Apparently Opensparx is all going according to plan. Cyril Burke is optimistic no less. Read it in the Connaught so it must be true

irishgeo · 25-11-2015 2:02pm

Westernyelp wrote: »

Apparently Opensparx is all going according to plan. Cyril Burke is optimistic no less. Read it in the Connaught so it must be true

so was northgate and thats created a huge employment of 5 a huge 3% of the jobs promised.

yop · 25-11-2015 5:39pm

irishgeo wrote: »

so was northgate and thats created a huge employment of 5 a huge 3% of the jobs promised.

Stop telling lies Irishgeo, understating the wonderful job opportunities fetooned on us by our Taoiseach and this wonderful FG government.......6 jobs have been created

irishgeo · 25-11-2015 8:14pm

yop wrote:

Stop telling lies Irishgeo, understating the wonderful job opportunities fetooned on us by our Taoiseach and this wonderful FG government.......6 jobs have been created

4% of the total

TruthEnforcer · 06-12-2015 4:59pm

yop wrote: »

Stop telling lies Irishgeo, understating the wonderful job opportunities fetooned on us by our Taoiseach and this wonderful FG government.......6 jobs have been created

I think you should revise that back to 5 as it would appear that Ms Suzanne Antwoon, who was supposedly appointed as "Ireland Services Coordinator" last February, has remained with her previous employers in Tuam (SalesSense International), and to be honest .. when a "Jobs Announcement" is made these days it always gives the impression that these are "NEW JOBS" when in reality they are jobs for people moving from existing employment elsewhere, whose positions might not be refilled or were going to end due to other Job Losses !

irishgeo · 06-12-2015 7:20pm

TruthEnforcer wrote: »

I think you should revise that back to 5 as it would appear that Ms Suzanne Antwoon, who was supposedly appointed as "Ireland Services Coordinator" last February, has remained with her previous employers in Tuam (SalesSense International), and to be honest .. when a "Jobs Announcement" is made these days it always gives the impression that these are "NEW JOBS" when in reality they are jobs for people moving from existing employment elsewhere, whose positions might not be refilled or were going to end due to other Job Losses !

an article last week said northgate had employed 10.

TruthEnforcer · 06-12-2015 8:04pm

irishgeo wrote: »

an article last week said northgate had employed 10.

Yeah .. saw that .. but I'd take it with a pinch of salt ... the same article said they had moved into their New premises (Old Eircom Depot) .. yet its still covered in cobwebs ..it was also stated by Northgate themselves that they would NOT be increasing their workforce in Castlebar unless they managed to get further Contracts (sounds like a form of coercion to me ??)

Xenji · 06-12-2015 8:32pm

TruthEnforcer wrote: »

Yeah .. saw that .. but I'd take it with a pinch of salt ... the same article said they had moved into their New premises (Old Eircom Depot) .. yet its still covered in cobwebs ..it was also stated by Northgate themselves that they would NOT be increasing their workforce in Castlebar unless they managed to get further Contracts (sounds like a form of coercion to me ??)

Contracts that they do not have a division in anymore.

expectationlost · 23-02-2016 4:50pm

opensparkz getting hauled out again when were these jobs first promised? http://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php/news/31270-three-companies-to-set-up-operations-at-former-volex-plant-in-castlebar-with-creation-of-up-to-200-jobs

Xenji · 23-02-2016 4:56pm

expectationlost wrote: »

opensparkz getting hauled out again when were these jobs first promised? http://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php/news/31270-three-companies-to-set-up-operations-at-former-volex-plant-in-castlebar-with-creation-of-up-to-200-jobs

They should of had everyone employed 18 months ago, the CEO is still going through a lot of legal wranglings with investors, a lot have pulled out since the original announcement.

Westernyelp · 23-02-2016 10:16pm

Xenji wrote: »

They should of had everyone employed 18 months ago, the CEO is still going through a lot of legal wranglings with investors, a lot have pulled out since the original announcement.

I remain sceptical.

nuac · 24-02-2016 12:12am

Westernyelp wrote: »

I remain sceptical.

Lads, it will all be grand. Keep saying that until close of poll on Friday:).

Whinging may then resume

yop · 24-02-2016 10:48am

nuac wrote: »

Lads, it will all be grand. Keep saying that until close of poll on Friday:).

Whinging may then resume

lol very true!

Its incredible we've had so many new jobs.
What I have to laugh at is in the Connuaght Telegraph we have a statement that FG have created 35% of the job outside Dublin in Mayo!!! If anyone gets a chance read that and make sure I have got that right.

Didn't see numbers on that OpenSparkz with regards the number of jobs.
The 10 jobs in BMI is really 4 as they have 6 already. I'd wonder how many will be scambridge like some of the other job announcements in Mayo over the last few years.

expectationlost · 04-03-2016 3:52pm

nuac wrote: »

Lads, it will all be grand. Keep saying that until close of poll on Friday:).

Whinging may then resume

the "whinger" won a seat

nuac · 04-03-2016 11:48pm

expectationlost wrote: »

the whinger won a seat

The winner of the former FG seat was Lisa Chambers of FF. A highly qualified self employed barrister working in the Western Circuit ( Mayo and Galway )
As she has achieved a lot so far in her 29 years I doubt if she would have had the time or inclination for whinging.

The remark cost FG some votes. Their expensive PR suits made it worse with cackhanded "clarifications"

expectationlost · 05-03-2016 2:43pm

nuac wrote: »

The winner of the former FG seat was Lisa Chambers of FF. I doubt if she would have had the time or inclination to do any whinging.

it was on video/radio

at 40seconds

WestNewPort · 16-05-2016 12:56pm

Has anyone heard anything about this recently?

I see there is very little activity over there anyway..

godskitchen · 16-05-2016 2:53pm

WestNewPort wrote: »

Has anyone heard anything about this recently?

I see there is very little activity over there anyway..

Signs for TimKelly Group went up there a few weeks ago, I assume they are doing work in there with electrics or some such thing.

It's been tidied up and pained inside but not a lot else as far as I can see.

The whole idea behind it is preposterous.

OpenSparkz - already dead in the water?

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