Minor Hurling Championship 2015

Kristopherus

Fireball07 wrote: »

Soft, soft free. Ref playing for a draw.

Ref ruining game:mad:

Utopia Parkway

Galway can feel very hard done by. That late Kilkenny free to draw level was a clear dive. Galway player had defended it perfectly and Kilkenny lad just threw himself to the ground.

Dan Chipowski

Where do the GAA get these refs from?

That fella today was hopeless from start to finish. Missing clear fouls, giving frees for nothing and patently playing for a draw in both normal and extra time. Disgraceful.

Terrible decision by the ref.
Galway player got his hand in a stupid position alright but his two arms stayed stationary as the KK player threw this weight up and down.
You cant drag someone down with your arm on top, you'd have to use your body weight from there which he obviously didn't.

The ref gave a square ball against Galway as well earlier in the game, from open play and the player barely entered before the ball, a good 5 seconds after the puck.

amber69

gilberto_eire wrote: »

barely entered before the ball, a good 5 seconds after the puck.

So it was a square ball then. Fair result. Taught kilkenny were the better side but Galway got the goals.

The growler

While Galway were hard done by with the last free in extra time I thought overall the ref was poor for both sides. Galway got some soft frees themselves throughout the game.

Remember also that Galway's equalising point in normal time was scored a full minute after injury time was up.

Overall though it was a very entertaining game and fair play to both teams.

Kristopherus

amber69 wrote: »

gilberto_eire wrote: »

barely entered before the ball, a good 5 seconds after the puck.

So it was a square ball then. Fair result. Taught kilkenny were the better side but Galway got the goals.

My understanding is that you can now enter after the ball is hit in from open play and before it arrives in the square.

Utopia Parkway

The growler wrote: »

Remember also that Galway's equalising point in normal time was scored a full minute after injury time was up.

There were 2 substitutions made in injury time by Kilkenny. Hence the added time.

The growler

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

There were 2 substitutions made in injury time by Kilkenny. Hence the added time.

Ah fair enough then. I often give out when the ref doesn't add on time for substitutions so credit where credit is due.

letowski

Did anyone catch the Kk v Galway game? Thought #20 was in the square? Think Galway kinda robbed it tbh, thou goals win games.

thinkstoomuch1

Two outstanding teams that's a great kk team credit to them and minors championship
Nothing between them but Galway stuck at it and slightly deserved it
Brilliant game of hurling well done Galway
Kk lost nothing in lot them play under twenty one

Gentleman Off The Pitch

letowski wrote: »

Did anyone catch the Kk v Galway game? Thought #20 was in the square? Think Galway kinda robbed it tbh, thou goals win games.

The most blatant square ball you'd ever see. Cost KK a place in the All Ireland. Ref and his umpire should be held accountable for that

Toblerone1978

letowski wrote: »

Did anyone catch the Kk v Galway game? Thought #20 was in the square? Think Galway kinda robbed it tbh, thou goals win games.

You're right, it should had been disallowed. For third time in two weeks, the KK minors failed to close out a game they should have won.

klairondavis

As clear a square ball as you're ever likely to see. Tough on Kilkenny but credit to Galway for sticking at it.

Tom.D.BJJ

Forgive my ignorance but has the square ball rule changed?

klairondavis

Not for hurling.

Dan Chipowski

I said it here last week about the standard of officiating ruining these games.

Hard to stomach having to watch the most blatant square ball ever, and a 70-something umpire stood looking at it 3 yards away.

Disgraceful stuff.

That said, if Kilkenny were any use they'd have had Galway beaten a long time before that. Two poor teams, but a very good game to watch.

Tom.D.BJJ

klairondavis wrote: »

Not for hurling.

My gaelige isn't great but I think the analysts just said it's okay as long it's while the ball is in the air. I didn't know it had changed, but watching here with my dad and he said it had

letowski

Yeah it didnt change 3 years ago like football, player cannot be in the square before ball arrives. It was a poor call by the ref and umpires. I think the rule is a joke anyway, it can be impossible to tell sometimes when the ball or player arrives first into the square (though not with today).

zetecescort

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

My gaelige isn't great but I think the analysts just said it's okay as long it's while the ball is in the air. I didn't know it had changed, but watching here with my dad and he said it had

Analyst from Galway I think so he's not too bothered I'd say!

looking at the stats after the game Kilkenny were well on top just didn't see it out, like the drawn game

klairondavis

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

My gaelige isn't great but I think the analysts just said it's okay as long it's while the ball is in the air. I didn't know it had changed, but watching here with my dad and he said it had

No the "old" rule still applies in hurling. The attacker can't be in the square before the ball enters the square.

That rule still applies from frees, 45s and sideline kicks in football. The attacker can enter the square in football before the ball arrives in open play but not before the ball has been kicked or handpassed.

Cathal Moore is having a laugh if he isn't sure that it wasn't a square ball.

Utopia Parkway

Combined score for the two games

Galway 5-30 Kilkenny 0-43

Eaglebridie 32

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Combined score for the two games

Galway 5-30 Kilkenny 0-43

That probably says it all!. 140min of hurling and Kilkenny could'nt raise a green flag, so unlike Kilkenny. Kilkenny inside forwards so poor!

Brian017

Eaglebridie 32 wrote: »

That probably says it all!. 140min of hurling and Kilkenny could'nt raise a green flag, so unlike Kilkenny. Kilkenny inside forwards so poor!

And never really looked like getting one. Except for maybe a half chance for Gaffney near the end today. It's a tough defeat for Kilkenny to take but as long as our games are reffed by humans you have to accept mistakes will be made and just get on with it

citykat

Eaglebridie 32 wrote: »

That probably says it all!. 140min of hurling and Kilkenny could'nt raise a green flag, so unlike Kilkenny. Kilkenny inside forwards so poor!

35 scores beats 43. KK did more hurling but weren't clinical enough to close it either day.

Utopia Parkway

Great win for Galway. They looked beaten about 3 or 4 times over the course of the two games but showed a serious amount of heart and character to keep coming back. Don't think much was expected of them this year. Weren't even expected to get past Limerick in the first game. Most of the team are underage again next year so I think most thought they would have a better chance in 2016.

citykat

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Great win for Galway. They looked beaten about 3 or 4 times over the course of the two games but showed a serious amount of heart and character to keep coming back. Don't think much was expected of them this year. Most of the team are underage again next year so I think most thought they would have a better chance in 2016.

Sign of a good team, never say die.

Gael85

Dublin player about to score. Referee blows up as Tipp player injured and gives indirect free to Dublin which Tipp win break and score at other end. Absolute joke of decision.

Gael85

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Combined score for the two games

Galway 5-30 Kilkenny 0-43

Goals win games 😊

zetecescort

good game so far, Dublin have responded well to the Tipp goals

letowski

zetecescort wrote:

good game so far, Dublin have responded well to the Tipp goals

Yeah they have a top freetaker. I think the Dub half forward line is giving the highly Tipp half back line a good contest. Dublin's 14 is causing trouble too. Tipps inside line is good though, I think Tipp ahould still win.

Dyr

This ref will make the difference for tipp, unfotunately

Very Bored

I didn't realise there was a minor thread, I've been commenting in the senior one so I'll just quote the messages I put there and then delete the originals.

Very Bored wrote: »

Great minor match. I thought Kilkenny hurled better in general but goals win games and we never looked like getting one to be honest. Congratulations to Galway.

Very Bored wrote: »

Another great minor match. Fair play to both Dublin and Tipperary who both gave very good accounts of themselves, Dublin have nothing to be ashamed of after that match. I felt Tipp edged it throughout and thought they'd come through in the end even when they went behind, now lets hope the senior is as good as these two minor games.

corny

Dublin dropping a man back to stop the Tipp inside forwards doing damage contributed massively to them losing. Firstly, it didn't work and secondly, backs clearing the ball only found Tipp defenders which completely handed them the initiative.

Gael85

I see there a Jack Grealish playing midfield for Galway minors. Hardly the same lad playing for Villa

Borders no.2

Gael85 wrote: »

Dublin player about to score. Referee blows up as Tipp player injured and gives indirect free to Dublin which Tipp win break and score at other end. Absolute joke of decision.

Found this decision very interesting today. Have never seen it before where the scoring opportunity was in front of goal when the ref stopped play. Obviously the ref has to take account of the welfare of the injured player and its hard for them to know how vital that split second may be for a player's welfare but it was very harsh for Dublin that they paid the price for what was nothing to do with them.

Gael85

Borders no.2 wrote: »

Found this decision very interesting today. Have never seen it before where the scoring opportunity was in front of goal when the ref stopped play. Obviously the ref has to take account of the welfare of the injured player and its hard for them to know how vital that split second may be for a player's welfare but it was very harsh for Dublin that they paid the price for what was nothing to do with them.

No consistency. In senior game for Seamus Callinan 1st Goal Aidan Harte down with head injury no stoppage :mad:

zetecescort

fairly even game so far. looks like Tipp could get a goal or two yet. Galway lad lucky not to see red for pulling off a helmet

Fireball07

Goals for Galway look to have swung it their way, goalie could have done better for the 2nd anyway.

zetecescort

Galway deserving winners, never left Tipp into it in the 2nd half

Andre 3000

Niland is such a polished hurler for his age.

dirtyden

Andre 3000 wrote: »

Niland is such a polished hurler for his age.

He had a very good game, but I though the corner back Bannon should have got man of the match, he cleared some amount of ball.

Very Bored

Good hurling match, sicily deserved by Galway though Tipp made a contribution too. Hopefully its the only thing Galway will be celebrating today!

danganabu

dirtyden wrote: »

He had a very good game, but I though the corner back Bannon should have got man of the match, he cleared some amount of ball.

Bannon was excellent, Tipp never came to grips with the sweeper at all and like all agae groups in Tipp our forwards didnt work hard enough when they didnt have possession and when they did, they simply dont actually know how to tackle legally.