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This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

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  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭BOSTIK


    If you have €13,000 burning a hole in your pocket here's a 1979 Chevrolet Camaro.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1979-chevrolet-camaro-5-7/23201869

    Nzk4MjU5NGQ1Mjk0ZTdkMDU3MTdkNjY2OTdhZGNmZjBbw5ULm5PF6Kl8IyoSrpHkaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xMzQyNDE2OTZ8fHwxMjAweDEyMDB8fHx8fHx8fA==.jpeg


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,597 ✭✭✭emeldc


    BOSTIK wrote: »
    If you have €13,000 burning a hole in your pocket here's a 1979 Chevrolet Camaro.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1979-chevrolet-camaro-5-7/23201869

    I wonder is there special software that helps you start every single word with a capital letter :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,515 ✭✭✭jmreire


    BOSTIK wrote: »
    If you have €13,000 burning a hole in your pocket here's a 1979 Chevrolet Camaro.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1979-chevrolet-camaro-5-7/23201869

    Nzk4MjU5NGQ1Mjk0ZTdkMDU3MTdkNjY2OTdhZGNmZjBbw5ULm5PF6Kl8IyoSrpHkaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xMzQyNDE2OTZ8fHwxMjAweDEyMDB8fHx8fHx8fA==.jpeg

    Car was repainted a few year's ago,paintwork good, but not show quality. A few rust bubble's showing here and there. For me at any rate, that would be a flashing red light....


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 AbbotSinical


    1979 Reliant Scimitar with 1.9 turbo Diesel engine from 1995 Peugeot 405 with 5 speed gearbox. Car is very fast

    At first glance it looks like Volvo P1800 Estate or like
    a Lotus Elite from mid 70s which had a fibreglass monocoque body


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 AbbotSinical


    Originally Posted by BOSTIK View Post
    If you have €13,000 burning a hole in your pocket here's a 1979 Chevrolet Camaro.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-...o-5-7/23201869
    jmreire wrote: »
    Car was repainted a few year's ago,paintwork good, but not show quality. A few rust bubble's showing here and there. For me at any rate, that would be a flashing red light....






    How about a Burtmobile for Movember?
    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/pontiac-transam-firebird-1979-6-6litre/20859619


    1 of 2 from '70s listed at the moment


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  • Registered Users Posts: 65,399 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    At first glance it looks like Volvo P1800 Estate

    Yep, both proper shooting brakes (2 door station wagon)


  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭BOSTIK


    This gorgeous beast is still available, no price listed to deter the tyrekickers.

    Man, it's beautiful.
    BOSTIK wrote: »
    1968 Cortina, looks smashing. Must be one of the few of these without the usual misaligned hood, engine bay is spotless.


    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mrk-2-cortina-deluxe/22895247

    OTA4NjBlYjYzYTA2Y2NmNzJhNjc0MmNkZGMwMTJkM2JuGzZWXLL9tr5el6H-3ArKaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xMzE5MzI2NzR8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    BOSTIK wrote: »
    This gorgeous beast is still available, no price listed to deter the tyrekickers.

    Man, it's beautiful.

    That's fabulous, straight as a die.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    BOSTIK wrote: »
    This gorgeous beast is still available, no price listed to deter the tyrekickers.

    Man, it's beautiful.

    I was seriously interested in that but never bother with no price ads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,515 ✭✭✭jmreire


    BOSTIK wrote: »
    This gorgeous beast is still available, no price listed to deter the tyrekickers.

    Man, it's beautiful.

    Really good one,near enough mint condition. Saw another one a few weeks ago, but no where near a tenth as good as this one. Very popular car in it's day...I'm sure that there are still a few of them around, but not near as good as this. The 1600 E was some machine too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,974 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Classic (next year) two seater for the price of a bicycle.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mx-5/23507137

    Take it home stick it in the shed. If you get it going happy days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65,399 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Very cheap!
    elperello wrote: »
    If you get it going happy days.

    Not that simple. Theses cars rust and this one was last tested almost 10 years ago. Probably a goner, but would be good for parts. That said, who knows? Go see it and it might be your lucky day :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,974 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Never is that simple especially if it was out in the open all that time, on the other hand if it was in a shed.



    Not for me anyway, after you sir :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 65,399 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    If it had an NCT it would already be parked on my drive :D

    I like my cheap convertibles though

    Bought a good condition MG-F about 6-7 years ago, taxed, very long NCT, €550
    Kept it for over 2 years, drove it real hard (that high revving K-series engine coupled with the mid rear engine setup and RWD was loads of fun) did an oil service myself but apart from that pretty much nothing (apart from having the suspension pumped once for €45 at Stuarts in Blanch who still had the equipment) and sold it for double that when the NCT was running out and it needed a bit of work. That car cost me nothing except 1.6l tax + classic insurance


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    unkel wrote: »
    Theses cars rust
    God they do. Chassis rails, sills, inner wheel arches, outer wheel arches, floorpan, you name it, one of these has had rust there. Some make 80's Lancias look like they were galvanised. On the stored outdoors or indoors, I've been surprised down the years. Outdoors and the paint will be fecked, but sometimes depending on where it was stored constant air circulation can keep rust at bay, whereas I've seen some cars stored in the corner of sheds that looked great on top and looked like all they needed was a wash and were real rotboxes underneath(the bits closest to the shed wall usually). But as you say it might be worth a look. You could get lucky.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    there is a healthy market in 2nd hand parts and there are a couple of specialist breakers about, this should end up there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65,399 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Some make 80's Lancias look like they were galvanised

    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,515 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Wibbs wrote: »
    God they do. Chassis rails, sills, inner wheel arches, outer wheel arches, floorpan, you name it, one of these has had rust there. Some make 80's Lancias look like they were galvanised. On the stored outdoors or indoors, I've been surprised down the years. Outdoors and the paint will be fecked, but sometimes depending on where it was stored constant air circulation can keep rust at bay, whereas I've seen some cars stored in the corner of sheds that looked great on top and looked like all they needed was a wash and were real rotboxes underneath(the bits closest to the shed wall usually). But as you say it might be worth a look. You could get lucky.

    Italian car's, Fiat's and Alfa's from that era all rusted badly too..at least when they arrived on these shore's. But I have seen older ones abroad which seem to have lasted much better, which would be due to the warmer drier climate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    jmreire wrote: »
    Car was repainted a few year's ago,paintwork good, but not show quality. A few rust bubble's showing here and there. For me at any rate, that would be a flashing red light....

    It looks like it previously sported a Transformers Bumblebee yellow colour scheme. The interior still does.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    jmreire wrote: »
    Italian car's, Fiat's and Alfa's from that era all rusted badly too..at least when they arrived on these shore's. But I have seen older ones abroad which seem to have lasted much better, which would be due to the warmer drier climate.

    And less cow**** on the roads :D


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Salt is a biggie. Look at many UK cars that have lived through a few winters there. Look back in the past in Ireland where grit was more in play than salt and the cars rusted more slowly. I noticed it after the snows of 2011(?), when they bought in tons and tons of salt(it arrived after the thaw...) and my driveway gate needs scraping and painting every two years, rather than every ten and my car got way more surface rust on the underside*.





    *The inside is fine(*crosses fingers*). Well because of rust and 90's Japanese cars lust for each other(see above MX5) at this stage the damn thing is more waxoyl and bilt hamber wax than steel. :D I'd recommend the Bilt Hamber stuff in a heartbeat. Much better than waxoyl in my humble and much easier to apply.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,515 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Salt is a biggie. Look at many UK cars that have lived through a few winters there. Look back in the past in Ireland where grit was more in play than salt and the cars rusted more slowly. I noticed it after the snows of 2011(?), when they bought in tons and tons of salt(it arrived after the thaw...) and my driveway gate needs scraping and painting every two years, rather than every ten and my car got way more surface rust on the underside*.





    *The inside is fine(*crosses fingers*). Well because of rust and 90's Japanese cars lust for each other(see above MX5) at this stage the damn thing is more waxoyl and bilt hamber wax than steel. :D I'd recommend the Bilt Hamber stuff in a heartbeat. Much better than waxoyl in my humble and much easier to apply.

    I'd agree there about the salt..I remember when a dealership I worked for sold a car ( Ford Cortina, if I remember right ) to a customer, and his address was Killaloe, County Clare, so the IE registration plate arrived and was fixed to the car. All was well until he came to collect it and when he saw the IE ( Clare) plate, he blew a fuse, and point blank refused to accept the car. He claimed that he was entitled to the Tipperary Nr because only the bridge in Ballina, separated him from County Tipperary and it should have had the HI plates. The reason for the ruckus was that Co. Clare car's because of their proximity to the sea and the salty air were much more prone to rust, and even though he was nearer to Tipperary than the sea...the IE registration was enough to devalue the car almost immediately. It was common to see County Clare cars from near the sea ( Doolin, Quilty, Kilkee, Liscannor etc ) with the radiator fins completely rusted out of existence, due to the salty air. So what the condition of chassis and underbody section's were like defies description...but it was common to see the rear axle shackles coming up through the boot floor, and the driver's seat sticking out through the floor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    jmreire wrote: »
    I'd agree there about the salt..I remember when a dealership I worked for sold a car ( Ford Cortina, if I remember right ) to a customer, and his address was Killaloe, County Clare, so the IE registration plate arrived and was fixed to the car. All was well until he came to collect it and when he saw the IE ( Clare) plate, he blew a fuse, and point blank refused to accept the car. He claimed that he was entitled to the Tipperary Nr because only the bridge in Ballina, separated him from County Tipperary and it should have had the HI plates. The reason for the ruckus was that Co. Clare car's because of their proximity to the sea and the salty air were much more prone to rust, and even though he was nearer to Tipperary than the sea...the IE registration was enough to devalue the car almost immediately. It was common to see County Clare cars from near the sea ( Doolin, Quilty, Kilkee, Liscannor etc ) with the radiator fins completely rusted out of existence, due to the salty air. So what the condition of chassis and underbody section's were like defies description...but it was common to see the rear axle shackles coming up through the boot floor, and the driver's seat sticking out through the floor.

    FI... Tipp north..


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,515 ✭✭✭jmreire


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    FI... Tipp north..

    Yes you are right..."HI" was for South Tipp. "FI" North Tipp. I should have remembered that..I fitted enough of them, but was looking at a "HI" plate in a Garage recently and that was stuck on my mind, so maybe that explain's it.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    jmreire wrote: »
    Yes you are right..."HI" was for South Tipp. "FI" North Tipp. I should have remembered that..I fitted enough of them, but was looking at a "HI" plate in a Garage recently and that was stuck on my mind, so maybe that explain's it.:rolleyes:

    Easily done. It was a great system I loved it, had they just put the extra digit on the plate like N.I. we'd be still using it. The number plates now are just ridiculous. I've seen many with 10 characters it looks terrible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,974 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Easily done. It was a great system I loved it, had they just put the extra digit on the plate like N.I. we'd be still using it. The number plates now are just ridiculous. I've seen many with 10 characters it looks terrible.

    And there are thousands from that series unused that classic car people would gladly pay a premium for but they won't take the money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    elperello wrote: »
    And there are thousands from that series unused that classic car people would gladly pay a premium for but they won't take the money.

    From my experience classic car owners wouldn't give you the steam off it, never mind pay for a number plate, most just make up a number and stick it on whatever they have out that Sunday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭KB22


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    From my experience classic car owners wouldn't give you the steam off it, never mind pay for a number plate, most just make up a number and stick it on whatever they have out that Sunday.

    You are some TULIP . Your so called "experience" regarding classic car owner's is abysmal. Keep going with your 6 post's per hour on subject's you seem to know very little about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    KB22 wrote: »
    You are some TULIP . Your so called "experience" regarding classic car owner's is abysmal. Keep going with your 6 post's per hour on subject's you seem to know very little about.

    Walk around any show or field day and look at the "genuine" Irish registrations on cars it's an absolute joke, the tractors are even worse, there's no chance in hell any of those "classic enthusiasts" would pay for a 1950's Leitrim number. I am referring to ordinary people of course not the IVVCC snobs who look down their noses at anyone with an address outside the pale.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 463 ✭✭Testacalda


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    ... most just make up a number and stick it on whatever they have out that Sunday.
    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Walk around any show or field day and look at the "genuine" Irish registrations on cars it's an absolute joke, the tractors are even worse, there's no chance in hell any of those "classic enthusiasts" would pay for a 1950's Leitrim number. I am referring to ordinary people of course not the IVVCC snobs who look down their noses at anyone with an address outside the pale.

    That's a fine tarring brush you have there


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