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This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying
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its nice alright but its all the money for what it is. others might disagree.
You wanted cars I gave you one
No seriously, how many unrestored ones of them do you reckon are around?
That's what makes it unusual, the patina the history.
If it's as solid as it looks and you keep it inside it will last forever.
On the other hand it might be a rust bucket.0 -
I take your point but I guess what your are saying is seeing is believing and I agree with that. the camera sometimes lies...You wanted cars I gave you one
No seriously, how many unrestored ones of them do you reckon are around?
That's what makes it unusual, the patina the history.
If it's as solid as it looks and you keep it inside it will last forever.
On the other hand it might be a rust bucket.0 -
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https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1-owner-1972-mercedes-220-diesel/24110726
Another no rust or rot:P
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I'd say in Turkey more than any of those countries put together
Turkey had already started to clamp down big time by the mid-late 80's in an attempt to protect their own fledgling car industry. They had done a lot of CKD's up till then, but FIAT and others had started production and were well ramped up by then.
There was plenty of smuggling going on and some seriously dodgy ways of getting the car out of the passport. I know a couple of people who fell foul of it and did a Midnight Express tour of the local jails for a few weeks. It was a lot easier to just spend a couple of weeks touring around Turkey, drive to Lebanon or Greece, sell the car there, and let one of the locals take over the import issues. They had their own channels.
By 1988 the main route was through Algeria and on to Niger, sell it there to Nigerians or keep going to Togo or Mali. The Atlantic route opened up around 1991-2 and Mauirtania and Senegal was the next destination, especially once things got worse in Algeria after 1993.0 -
I'd say in Turkey more than any of those countries put together
I remember in the 90's travelling from Zagreb down to Belgrade, and once the schools closed for the summer holidays, you would get an exodus of Turkish families travelling home to Turkey from Germany. Maybe 90% in Mercedes Benz. The queue could stretch 3,4 or 5 klms long. It took ages to pass first the Croatian Customs and Passport control, and then the Serbian one. Families would have a picnic on the hard shoulder, and when the queue moved forward, they would just push their car's forward. And I'd imagine that many of these Merc's ended up in Turkey.0 -
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The trip to Turkey/Morocco/Algeria thing ran as follows for most families: the van was full of gifts for the extended family in Turkey. It was almost always driven back full again with food, carpets, lamps and anything that could be used, sold for profit, or that was simply chepaer in Turkey than Germany, Netherlands or wherever. I often stopped them in motorway service stations and would buy a few kilos of almonds, dates and figs off them. Dutch Turks were very fond of the Mk1 Transit, German Turks used 207's and later on Vito's.
The car was driven down as a status symbol, a sign you had made it. Rarely left down there, customs duties were usually 60%-200%. Occasionally a car was left in Turkey, ringed to replace one that had crashed/fallen apart and the person who imported it could leave with a bribe if they knew the right people. But the nicer cars were mostly used to drive around in, then taken back to Germany or wherever.
Same thing went on here in the 70's, 80's and 90's. Most of the decent UK cars you'd see during the summer were driven by Irish people living in the UK. People used to take the boat over and back, if you flew you were obviously doing well for yourself. And any UK reg car that ever showed up at our house always had a few goodies; sweets, comics or whatever.
Turkey, Morocco and North Africa have fully computerised immigration details. I first entered Morocco in 1991, it pops up every time I enter. I'v been there maybe 30 times by road, each and every car is registered on the system. Change passport and they'll get me to confirm that my old details are correct. First drove to Turkey in 1994, again in 1997 and 1998. All on their system.
Still goes on today, drive through France and Spain in summer and heavily loaded cars like these were a common sight:
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The trip to Turkey/Morocco/Algeria thing ran as follows for most families: the van was full of gifts for the extended family in Turkey. It was almost always driven back full again with food, carpets, lamps and anything that could be used, sold for profit, or that was simply chepaer in Turkey than Germany, Netherlands or wherever. I often stopped them in motorway service stations and would buy a few kilos of almonds, dates and figs off them. Dutch Turks were very fond of the Mk1 Transit, German Turks used 207's and later on Vito's.
The car was driven down as a status symbol, a sign you had made it. Rarely left down there, customs duties were usually 60%-200%. Occasionally a car was left in Turkey, ringed to replace one that had crashed/fallen apart and the person who imported it could leave with a bribe if they knew the right people. But the nicer cars were mostly used to drive around in, then taken back to Germany or wherever.
Same thing went on here in the 70's, 80's and 90's. Most of the decent UK cars you'd see during the summer were driven by Irish people living in the UK. People used to take the boat over and back, if you flew you were obviously doing well for yourself. And any UK reg car that ever showed up at our house always had a few goodies; sweets, comics or whatever.
Turkey, Morocco and North Africa have fully computerised immigration details. I first entered Morocco in 1991, it pops up every time I enter. I'v been there maybe 30 times by road, each and every car is registered on the system. Change passport and they'll get me to confirm that my old details are correct. First drove to Turkey in 1994, again in 1997 and 1998. All on their system.
Still goes on today, drive through France and Spain in summer and heavily loaded cars like these were a common sight:
And all loaded down to the helper spring's..( if they had them !!! ) 0 -
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